US Election Coverage 2008

[Nyani Ngabu]

Haya ondoka na usirudi tena maana yamekushinda.

 

[YNIM]

Haya ondoka na usirudi tena maana yamekushinda.

yamenishinda nini?? tena wewe hapo ndio umezidi ushabiki, utafikiri yule mama keshaga wahi kukupa "blowjob."!!?? ebo, where is the objection here? imekuwa kama ushabiki wa football or something, haya let say mama atashinda nomination.......so what?? point hapa, nikuelimishana kwa facts na sio kuwa rush limbaughs wannabes!!!!. endelea ku-spin kwa niaba ya mama labda utapewa "U-Jindaye Frazier" a.k.a u-undersecretary of states for africa affairs!!!

Keep it up dawg, ya doin a heck of a job!!.

 

[Capitol Hill]

Hillary has promised the people of Wyoming that she will start a "save the moose" program to help save an animal that George bush has neglected

I am just kidding!

 

[YNIM]

Hillary has promised the people of Wyoming that she will start a "save the moose" program to help save an animal that George bush has neglected

I am just kidding!

kwikwikwikwi......the good people of WY just a lil' while a go, loud and clear, said, YES WE CAN!!!

Rush Limbaugh wa JF a.k.a Nyani Ngabu, a paid mpambe wa Clinton hapa JF njoo basi ufanye kile unachokijua the best, ku-spin, kama vile umeahidiwa "you can marry my daughter."!!! LOL, bwahahahahahahahahahahaha, see you in Mississippi.

 

[Rufiji]

Jamani nimejaribu kufuatilia kauli ya huyo mama Rice na nini alikuwa akiimply nimekutana na hii article. Mama amesema ya kuwa wote Obama , Hillary na Mccain hawako tayari kupokea hiyo simu . Sasa mimi ninachoshindwa kuelewa ni kwa nini watu wamespin na kusema ya kuwa alisema Obama na Hilary tuu ...Hivi kitu kikisemwa na pundits wa MSNBC ni lazima tukichukue kama kilivyo. Mimi naamini ya kuwa watu kwenye hii blog ni open minded na tunaweza kuchambua mchele na pumba.

Tatizo hata clip inayoonyeshwa sasa ni nusu tuu hawaonyeshi yote. We have to be careful with media because sometimes they are making up stories.

Tafadhali naomba tusome mahojiano kati ya Tucker wa MSNBC na mama Rice then uniambie kama kuna kosa lolote lililofanywa.


SUSAN RICE, OBAMA SR. FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR: Good to be with you again.

CARLSON: So Hillary Clinton runs this ad, the famous red phone ad, that says when the phone rings at 3:00 in the morning, you know, who do you trust to make those snap decisions that could hold all of our lives in the balance? And the Obama campaign, I thought very wisely, came back and said, name one that you -- you know name a situation where you've judged a foreign policy crisis, and she couldn`t.

I'm going to ask the same question to you. Where has -- Barack Obama been in a position where he has to make those kinds of decisions?

RICE: He hasn't and he hasn't claimed that he's been in a position to have to answer the phone at 3:00 in the morning in a crisis situation. That's the difference between the two of them. Hillary Clinton hasn't had to answer the phone at 3:00 in the morning. And yet she attacked Barack Obama for not being ready. They`re both not ready to have that 3:00 a.m. phone call.

The questions is and what Barack Obama raised is, when that phone call is received for each of them for the first time, who's going to make the right judgment? Who is going to make the right decision?

On the critical foreign policy issues of the day, whether it was a decision to go to war in Iraq or the decision to give President Bush the benefit of the doubt and beat the drums of war with Iran, Hillary Clinton has made the same wrong judgment as John McCain and George W. Bush. Barack Obama has made a very different judgment.

So neither one of them, and nor John McCain for that matter, have had that 3:00 phone call that others have had. And I think we have to be honest about that.


CARLSON: Well, good for you for saying that. I mean I've asked that question of Hillary Clinton supporters and they -- rather than just saying she hasn't, they`'e come up with less believable right.

RICE: They've come up -- but Tucker, let's go into.

CARLSON: I don't want to pile on.

RICE: ...what they said.

CARLSON: I know what they said. I mean.

RICE: They said, you know, oh she -- first of all, as you pointed out, they said, you know, nothing for several, almost 20 seconds.

CARLSON: Well, she went to the 1995 Beijing.

RICE: And then she went to the Beijing women's conference which, of course, is a crisis. And then she claimed that she played an instrumental role in negotiating the Northern Ireland peace agreement. George Mitchell who was the negotiator said she not directly involved. She claimed she went to Kosovo and opened the border with Macedonia, and yet the border opened the day before she arrived on that trip through no direct involvement of her own.

CARLSON: They knew she was coming and they opened it up.

RICE: Well, you know.

CARLSON: That -- such is the power of Hillary Clinton.

RICE: Well, there you go.

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

Ndio shida, wale waliopo upande wa Obama wanajifanya mayai, untouchables; wamemshambulia mama wa watu mwezi mzima, amejibu mapigo kidogo tu wanaanza kulia kama watoto wadogo. Sasa na nyie ma-surrogates wake hapa mnaanza kuleta vitisho kwamba mnakimbia uwanja, mnaenda wapi, msiogope mtachukua hizo caucus na mtapata tena cha kusema hadi 22 April mtakapopigwa tena ngumu ya utosini.

Sasa walivyo na crisis washabiki wa Obama, nimeona kule kwenye website ya Obama wameanzisha petition ya kusaini kwamba akipata Clinton hawatachagua Democrats November, sasa kama sio mahangaiko ni nini, hasira? Tatizo kubwa ninaloliona hapa ni lack of perseverence on the part of Obama, wameshinda states 11 in a row, sasa leo mama wa watu kashinda hizo states 3, makamasi yanawatoka, mnataka kuniambia mlishazoea ushindi kiasi hicho? Yaani mnakuwa woga kushindwa kuwashinda hata CCM, nyie vipi?

 

[Rufiji]

Kitila kusema ukweli maneno yako yanasikitisha . Kampeni ya obama ina watu wengi sana lakini dhahidi wenzetu wanaamini katika freedom of speech. Simply kwa kuwa watu wachache wameamua kuanzisha hiyo petition aitakuwa fair kuwalabel watu wote wa Obama ni aina fulani ...

Mimi nadhani ni vizuri kama tuta-attack issue badala ku-attack a person . Nimetoa article hapo juu ya Mama Rice na watu wameona ukweli jinsi watu wanavyospin mambo.

 

[YNIM]

Ndio shida, wale waliopo upande wa Obama wanajifanya mayai, untouchables; wamemshambulia mama wa watu mwezi mzima, amejibu mapigo kidogo tu wanaanza kulia kama watoto wadogo. Sasa na nyie ma-surrogates wake hapa mnaanza kuleta vitisho kwamba mnakimbia uwanja, mnaenda wapi, msiogope mtachukua hizo caucus na mtapata tena cha kusema hadi 22 April mtakapopigwa tena ngumu ya utosini.

Sasa walivyo na crisis washabiki wa Obama, nimeona kule kwenye website ya Obama wameanzisha petition ya kusaini kwamba akipata Clinton hawatachagua Democrats November, sasa kama sio mahangaiko ni nini, hasira? Tatizo kubwa ninaloliona hapa ni lack of perseverence on the part of Obama, wameshinda states 11 in a row, sasa leo mama wa watu kashinda hizo states 3, makamasi yanawatoka, mnataka kuniambia mlishazoea ushindi kiasi hicho? Yaani mnakuwa woga kushindwa kuwashinda hata CCM, nyie vipi?

kwahiyo kumbe Wyoming, Mississippi, Guam, North Carolina nk zoooote hazi-count ila PA tu!!?? kwahiyo mama kaka akishinda PA basi atakuwa kapata nomination??
wapi watu wa Obama wamemponda Clinton kiholela?! binafsi hapa nilisema ukweli juu ya Obama kutamba na stance yake against war........lakini wapi wewe au NN mmesema kitu chochote +ve juu ya Obama!! Juzi nimeona hapa unakandia juu ya Obama kusema kwamba atafikiri kuhusu Obama-Hillary ticket, kwamba anajiweka chini na blah blah. Ukweli ni kwamba atafikiria kuchagua Hillary kuwa VP!! ilikuwa ni jaribio la kutuliza tactic ya hillary ya vote for me then you will get Obama for free........msee tujaribu kuwa Objective, otherwise kamjadala kanakuwa kakitoto!!! nimekuona unakandia Susan Rice kwa alichokisema, sijaona ukisema lolote juu ya post ya Rufiji hapo juu....facts ni muhimu na sio kusiliza wakina Chris Matthew kama vile hatuna mawazo yetu binafsi.
dada aliyesema clinton ni monster kawa fired. je ni kipi kimetokea kwa jamaa aliye m-compare Obama na Kenneth Starr?? Nada!!..........tuache ushabiki jamani, haya ni mambo muhimu sana, sio Yanga na Simba hii!!!.

 

[Icadon]

Kabla hatujawadhiaki jamaa wanaosema watasusa kupigia kura Dems kama mama akipitishwa,

Obama so far anaongoza kwa Popular votes dhidi ya Mama
Obama anaongoza kwa delegates

Sasa come the Convention Superdelegates ambao wengi wao wako Loyal na kina Clinton wanafumba macho(na kupiga zengwe kiccm) na kumpitisha Clinton, unategemea wale waliompigia kura Obama watafikiria nini?

Kumbukeni Mama Clinton ameanza maandalizi ya kutaka urais long time so whatever she has been doing as a first lady alikuwa anajitengenezea path. "Eight years of Bill Eight years of Hillary" mnaukumbuka huo msemo?

Lol kumbe yule demu kwenye 3 am call anamsupport Obama
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_030708WAB_hillary_ad_KC.328ab14f.html

 

[Capitol Hill]

Tatizo kubwa ninaloliona hapa ni lack of perseverence on the part of Obama, wameshinda states 11 in a row, sasa leo mama wa watu kashinda hizo states 3, makamasi yanawatoka, mnataka kuniambia mlishazoea ushindi kiasi hicho? Yaani mnakuwa woga kushindwa kuwashinda hata CCM, nyie vipi?

Hatuna tatizo lolote..wenye tatizo ni nyie (Clintonites) mnao distort facts na kurusha mud. Mna rusha false accusation kwa Barack. Mlianza na rangi yake kule SC, mkaja na false claim kwamba he's a muslim, mkatoa na picha, mka distort facts kuhusu relationship yake na Rezko. Sasa hivi mnasema he's not capable of answering a 3:00 AM call.

My question to you is:
1. Where are HRC tax returns?
2. What exactly has she done in terms of solving crisis. Kama ku give speech kwenye women convention in 1995 kule Beijing ni enough credit kusema she stood against the Chinese gov't on womens rights then I have a problem. Hata sisi wana JF tunaweza ku run for presidency nchini kwetu kwa criteria kuwa tuna stand against UFISADI Tanzania on the issues of accountability.

 

[Icadon]

A look at some of Clinton's specific foreign policy claims:

_NORTHERN IRELAND: "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland."

Clinton traveled to Northern Ireland five times as first lady, and was a tireless advocate for the peace process. But she was not directly involved in negotiating the Good Friday peace accord.

She did encourage Irish women on both sides of the conflict to come together and get involved in a process that was dominated by men.

Former Democratic Sen. George Mitchell, who brokered the peace accord, said Clinton was "quite helpful."

"She became quite active in encouraging women in Northern Ireland to engage in the political process and in the peace process, and ultimately the role of women was important in moving the process forward," said Mitchell, who is neutral in the presidential race. "She was one of many people who participated in encouraging women to get involved, not the only one."

John Hume, the Catholic leader who shared the 1998 Nobel Peace Prize for his work on the peace accord, credits Clinton for playing a "pivotal role" in the peace process.

But others in Northern Ireland say Clinton overstates her role.

"The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn't on it," says Brian Feeney, an author and former leading Belfast politician from the same party as Hume.

KOSOVO: "I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo."

At the urging of the Macedonian government, Clinton in May 1999 traveled to Macedonia, which was being inundated with Albanian refugees from Kosovo. She visited a huge refugee camp, held hands with children, told their parents they would go home and announced business loans for the country to help its laggard economy cope with the refugee influx.

On May 5, Macedonian officials had shut the border to refugees, blaming the West for allowing more than a quarter-million people to overwhelm the country. Despite later government insistence that the border was open again, Serb soldiers appeared to be blocking refugees' exit, and only a trickle passed through on May 13, the day before Clinton arrived, according to an AP story written at the time. Refugees were reported to be afraid even to attempt the crossing.

Melanne Verveer, a Clinton aide who accompanied the first lady on the trip to Macedonia, said that only a small section of the border was open when she arrived, and that there was no guarantee it wouldn't close again at any time.

Verveer, who sat in on May 14 meetings between the first lady and Macedonia's president and prime minister, said Clinton was forceful in urging the leaders to keep the border open, and in assuring the Macedonians that the U.S. would support them in coping with the influx of refugees.

"What she did there I don't think can be underestimated in terms of the positive impact that it had," said Verveer, who is active in Clinton's campaign.

Robert Gelbard, who was presidential envoy to the Balkans at the time and now serves as an adviser to the Obama campaign, offers an opposing view.

"I cannot recall any involvement by Senator Clinton in this issue," he said. "The person who was able to get the border opened was Mrs. Sadako Ogata," the U.N. high commissioner for refugees. Gelbard said he had questioned other U.S. officials directly involved and none remembered involvement by Clinton.

There were no public reports at the time of Clinton negotiating to keep the border open.

Overall, said Gelbard, "She had more of a role on some foreign policy issues than a lot of other first ladies, including, for example, the current one. My own firsthand experience, though, is that her role was limited and I've been surprised at the claims that she had a much greater role than certainly I'm aware of on the issues I was working on."

SERBIA: "I urged him to bomb."

Clinton doesn't bring this one up now, but in a 1999 interview published in Talk magazine, the first lady was quoted as saying that she had urged her husband to recommend a NATO bombing campaign on Serb targets to halt ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. According to the story, Clinton called the president on March 21, 1999, from her travels in North Africa. "I urged him to bomb," she was quoted as saying. "You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?" NATO airstrikes began March 24.

Clinton generally refuses to talk about the private advice she gave her husband. But Holbrooke this week recalled a time during the subsequent NATO bombing campaign when he and his wife were invited upstairs at the White House after a social event. He said Hillary Clinton was a big participant in an hour-long discussion about the bombing, the possible use of ground troops and other matters.

She didn't take sides in the conversation, Holbrooke said, "but I have no doubt that she continued the conversation in the privacy of their relationship" and made her views clear.

CHINA: "I've been standing up to the Chinese government over women's rights."

Clinton says her participation on the U.N. Conference on Women in Beijing in 1995 was "one of the highlights of my own life." There had been a huge debate over whether she should even go, with some human rights advocates expressing concern that China would use the conference as a public relations tool.

Clinton got strong reviews for threading the diplomatic needle with an impassioned speech that contained a wide-ranging denunciation of human rights abuses worldwide. She criticized China, without naming it directly, for the practice of sterilization and forced abortion, and for preventing many women from attending or participating fully in the conference.

In her memoir, Clinton writes about the rousing reception her speech received at the conference and adds, "What I didn't know at the time was that my 21-minute speech would become a manifesto for women all over the world. To this day, whenever I travel overseas, women come up to me quoting words from the Beijing speech or clutching copies they want me to autograph."

Rice, the former Clinton administration official now supporting Obama, credits the first lady for delivering an important speech on women's rights, but says that that doesn't translate into presidential crisis management credentials.

BOSNIA: "If the place was too small, too dangerous or too poor, send Hillary."

Clinton cites her March 1996 trip to Bosnia as an example of traveling into a war zone to promote U.S. policy, recalling a harrowing "corkscrew" landing during which she and her daughter, Chelsea, were ordered into the armored front of the plane to protect them against possible ground fire. She jokes that one mantra around the Clinton White House, was that "if the place was too small, too dangerous or too poor, send Hillary."

Clinton brought up the trip to counter Obama's suggestion that her experiences as first lady amounted to having tea at an ambassador's house.

"I don't remember anyone offering me tea," Clinton said of the Bosnia visit.

Security was very tight on Clinton's goodwill tour to Bosnia, but officials said at the time that she took no extraordinary risks.

Rice, the Obama supporter, dismissed the trip as a "meet and greet." She stressed that comedian Sinbad and singer Sheryl Crow accompanied Clinton on the flight to put on a USO show for the troops.

 

[Capitol Hill]

While First Lady, Hillary Clinton did not have official access to National Security clearances, did not have clearances to view classified information, was not given clearance to access Presidential Daily Briefings and in 1998, was barely speaking to Bill Clinton because of the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

She says she has the experience to be in the White House and uses her "experience" as First Lady to pad her message that she was in the middle of things. Just what was she looking at and having access to that would make her such an "expert"? Did she access and view classified information without the proper security clearances? It sounds like she is guilty of such.

Source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4954016

 

[YNIM]

......kampeni imejaa "mipasho," kujisifia "kapiriensi" ambayo haipo na u-machiavelli....substance, zero!!

hata wenyewe ma-pundit waliokubuhu, wanakubali kwamba Obama ame-run one of the cleanest campaign in american history!! kila surrogate aliye run mouth na kutema cheche amepewa fire, kwa upande wa mama hakuna accountability!! tunaona dirty politics hata hapa JF. cha kusikitisha kuna baadhi yetu humu ni insiders ktk upinzani kule nyumbani, sasa kama hizi za clinton ndio hasa politics mnazozifagilia, basi mie/sie tunawatakia goodluck!!!!!.

 

[Capitol Hill]

To all the Clintonites:

Huyu mama amekuwa aki play the victim card everytime the odds are against her. Recently alikuwa akilalamika kuwa media haiko fair kwake na inampa Obama more favorite coverage.

Swali langu ni hili. Mbona alikuwa halalamika last year mpaka mwanzoni mwa mwaka huu kwenda kwenye Iowa Caucus. Mnakumbuka jinsi media ilivyokuwa ikimpa Mrs.Clinton all the + coverage na kwamba she was a front runner? Why not complaining then?
What I see is Obama has earned everything he's got up to this point na zaidi he's not sugar coating his resume.

 

[Icadon]

......kampeni imejaa "mipasho," kujisifia "kapiriensi" ambayo haipo na u-machiavelli....substance, zero!!

hata wenyewe ma-pundit waliokubuhu, wanakubali kwamba Obama ame-run one of the cleanest campaign in american history!! kila surrogate aliye run mouth na kutema cheche amepewa fire, kwa upande wa mama hakuna accountability!! tunaona dirty politics hata hapa JF. cha kusikitisha kuna baadhi yetu humu ni insiders ktk upinzani kule nyumbani, sasa kama hizi za clinton ndio hasa politics mnazozifagilia, basi mie/sie tunawatakia goodluck!!!!!.

Soma this

Michael Duffy and Nancy Gibbs report on a meeting that took place in Chicago last Labor Day. All of Obama’s experienced advisers told him: “You gotta get down, get dirty, get tough.”

Obama refused. He argued that if he did that, the entire basis for his campaign would evaporate. “If I gotta kneecap her,” he said, “I’m not gonna go there.”

 

[YNIM]

Soma this

Michael Duffy and Nancy Gibbs report on a meeting that took place in Chicago last Labor Day. All of Obama’s experienced advisers told him: “You gotta get down, get dirty, get tough.”

Obama refused. He argued that if he did that, the entire basis for his campaign would evaporate. “If I gotta kneecap her,” he said, “I’m not gonna go there.”

thx kwa kuiweka hiyo kitu hapa, najua hiyo, kwamba Obama alikataa zamani ku-burst kneecaps za watu kwa baseball bat, ati tu ili kushinda uraisi!!!!! hii camp-pain haipo kwaajili tu ya kushinda urais, bali ipo kwanza kwasababu ya kubadili ile culture ya politics as usual hapa US na worldwide!!!! ndio maana mafisadifisadi wooooooooooote wanakuwa waoga. hamna kitu kizuri kama kuwa honest, hamna ushindi mzuri kama ule unaopatikana with lots and lots of grace, intergrity and dignity!! kuna aja gani ya ku-shout maneno kama, " Barack Obama, 'nuff witcha speeches, meet me in Ohio."....utafikiri watu wanagombea udiwani kwenye ghetto flani in the eastside Little Rock, Arkansas.! huyu mama hana adabu.

 

[Capitol Hill]

YournameisMINE kula five mzee

 

[YNIM]

YournameisMINE kula five mzee

best,

hivi hawkeyes si ndio Iowa State University pale Ames?! nakumbuka rivarly yao na Mizzou Tigers(university of missouri-columbia) in late 90s, early 00s!!! hivi team zao za basketball na football zipoje siku hizi? vipi mnawafunga " Salukis" na "Hoosiers"?

goodnight.

 

[Capitol Hill]

Mkuu..Iowa State ni Cyclones. Sisi ni wa Iowa City.
Tumekuwa dissapointment as of late kwenye Basketball na Football. We used to be on top in the Big 10 lakini thats history. Niko naangalia Duke na North Carolina hapa. Its a tie game (2nd half)...Duke wana jamaa mmoja anachoma three kama J.J. Redick.

 

[Icadon]

Kula tano Capitol Hill na Yourname.
Naona spin zilizidi sana lakini watu wamesahau reality kuwa path to nomination ya mama kwenye Primaries na Caucuses haiwezekani tena.

Capitol Hill watu wanasahau ride aliyopewa Mama kama The Inevitable Candidate!!! hiyo iliisha baada ya kichapo cha Iowa ndio reality ikacheck in.

Her only plausible path to the nomination is to win a majority of super-delegates (party and public officials) and, perhaps, to reverse the party's decision disqualifying the Michigan and Florida delegations -- i.e., overruling the voters in one case and changing the rules after the game has been played in the other.

This might pass muster if the national polls show an unambiguous and substantial move toward Clinton. Otherwise, in more likely and ambiguous circumstances, a Clinton nomination will seem illegitimate to many who have been swooning over Obama and streaming into polling booths because he alone offers hope.

The March 4 exit polls show increasing percentages of Democratic primary voters unwilling to accept the rejection of their candidate. Both candidates have an incentive to attack on grounds that will weaken the other in the general election, as Clinton has already started to do with her "red phone" ad.

All of this is a windfall, surely, for McCain -- unless he forgets that his party is in trouble and that he needs to make an affirmative case for himself and his policies. And loudly enough to overcome the din as Clinton and Obama pummel each other.