Uonavyo: Kati ya KWAME NKRUMAH na J K NYERERE. Yupi anastahili heshima ya kisiasa ki mataifa?

tpmazembe said:
Wote wamefanya mengi kusaidia kimataifa,JKN amefanya mazuri pia ndani,lakini kimataifa kura yangu napeleka kwa Kwame Nkurumah kutokana na falsafa ya afrika kuwa moja,jeshi moja na fedha moja,Jambo lililopingwa na JKN
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Kasome history mkuu. Nyerere hakupinga bali aliupinga muundo wake. Na wazo la kuunganisha Africa lilitolewa na Jomo Kenyatta. Wakuu jaribuni kuwa na tabia za kusoma makala, msiishie kusoma udaku na vikatuni tu. Hapa wengi watachemka kwa kutokujua historia ya bara letu!
 
DSN said:
Du K umemwagia mwenzio matusi lakini,sijui nasie wengineo tunaokuona wewe uko chaka bovu na pumba tupu ungependa tukuite jina gani.Nkrumah alikuwa na brilliant idea,lakini HAKUWA NA VISION,hata Mwalimu alimpenda sana jamaa yule kwa idea zake na ndio maana Tanzania tukawa na memorial site kibao sana kumuhusu huyu jamaa kama plae Chuo kikuu tuna ukumbi maalufu sana Nkrumah.Kosa la Mwana wa Afrika yule ni kukosa VISION ya kutekelezea IDEA zake zifanye kazi.

Mwalimu alipingana nae kuwa uwezi kuunda Africa moja kwa siku moja,Afrika moja itaundwa kwa kuanza na Kanda,kutokea hapo kanda zikisha imalika basi baadae kila kanda zitaanza kuunda ushirikino wa kikanda,ambavyo vitu hivyo tunaviona sasa.

Idea ya kuwa Africa ni nzuri na hakika siku moja itafanya kazi,lakini sio leo,wala kesho ni baada ya kizazi fulani kama hapa kwetu wakina kayumba cream kama kama intake kumi na ushee na hapo itakapoungana hakika itakuwa ni strong state na uenda ikadominate dunia kwa muda mlefu sana.

Lakini Mwalimu kwa busara zake alimchallange sana Nkrumah,tatizo kubwa la bwana mkubwa yule alikuwa na ka uarrogance na ustubborness fulani.Sometimes kwenye siasa hizi hasa zinazocheza na michezo ya kidunia kwa ujumla wake unapaswa kuwa Intellegent na smart pia.

Mwalimu na ujanja wake wote wa kusurvive mbinu za wazungu lakini bado walimfanyizia kupitia watoto alio walea yeye na kuwakuza yeye.Sembuse na hiyo ya kutaka Africa iwe United states mara moja kuamka asubuhi.Nyerere Hakuna idealist bali he was a Man of Vision.
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Uko sawa mkuu, hapo umetupa history ya hawa wawili. Ni kweli hawa wawili wanamchango mkubwa sana ktk africa. Hapa tukitaka kuwapima basi nadhani ingekuwa busara sana kuwapima katika vipengele tofauti kama alivyochambua huyu mkuu. Kuwapima kijumla hatuwatendei haki, kwani kuna mmoja alikuwa smart kwenye hili na mwingine vivyo hivyo pia. Mkuu kama una nafasi nakuomba utoe lecture kidogo ya history ya hawa wawili yaani namaanisha Nkurumah na Mwalimu JKN.
 
Stuxnet said:
Nyerere ni zaidi siyo tu kwa Nkrumah bali anamzidi hata Nelson Mandela. Simuoni kiongozi wa Afrika kwa walio tangulia mbele ya haki na walio hai ambaye anaweza kufikia hata robo ya nationalism ya JKN.
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Nakuunga mkono kijana!, na namuunga mkono ndugu DSN. Nyerere alikua na vision kali sana, yaani wanasema alikua anaona mbali sana kuliko Nkrumah. huwezi kuunganisha africa haraka bana, humo kuna marais vichaa, wajinga na vibaraka, inahitaji kwenda taratibu!, Nkrumah alikua anaspidi kali kama ya bwana magufuli ambayo Rais akiifanya katika jambo baya atakua mbaya kuliko wote duniani!,

Hakuna Rais kama Nyerere bwana, sema tu alikua kama mume aliefiwa na mke wa kwanza pale Sokonne alipokufa kwani alikua ndio JEMBE hasa!, Hakika wangeongezewa miaka 5 ya kufanya kazi pamoja (nyerere na Sokonne), na kupewa uhai mpaka leo, tusingekua na hali iliyopo sasa wala tusingepata viongozi wazembe.
 
Amini usiamini hii ndoto ya Nkrumah, Gadaffi na Bob Marley ya kuwa na United states of Africa itatimia siku moja. Sitakuwepo wala hutakuwepo ila itatimia, na litakua taifa lenye nguvu duniani. Kama huamini, endelea kutoamini ila jiulize tu haya yanayotokea nani angemini siku za nyuma?

1. Nani angeamini kama marekani ingetawaliwa na Mwafrica miaka 100 iliyopita?
2. Nani angeamini kama Uingereza itakua Mbwa koko (yaani mbwa asieweza kubweka) kimataifa kipindi ilipokua na makoloni dunia nzima? na zaidi ya yote inatawaliwa na marekani iliyokua koloni lake.
3. Nani angeamini kama China itakua tishio kiuchumi duniani miaka 100 iliyopita?
4. Nani anaamini kama Tanzania itatoa misaada ya masharti nafuu kwa Marekani miaka 200 ijayo?, ni mimi tu
 
kiroba said:
Kasome history mkuu. Nyerere hakupinga bali aliupinga muundo wake. Na wazo la kuunganisha Africa lilitolewa na Jomo Kenyatta. Wakuu jaribuni kuwa na tabia za kusoma makala, msiishie kusoma udaku na vikatuni tu. Hapa wengi watachemka kwa kutokujua historia ya bara letu!
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Kiroba,
Hapo nitakupinga kidogo. Wazo la Pan Africanism aliliembrace Nkrumah wakati akiwa bado mwanafunzi Marekani. Kenyatta amekuja kuli embrace baadaye baada ya kukutana na akina George Padmore Uingereza. Lakini alipokuwa mamlakani hakufanya lolote hata kusaidia tu ukombozi wa kusini mwa Afrika. Yeye alijikita zaidi katika kupanua biashara za Kenya. Kuna wakati nimemsikia marehemu Machel akisimulia jinsi alivyokwenda Kenya kuomba msaada wa Landrover wakati huo akiwa mpiganaji misituni. Kenyatta alikataa. Lakini baada ya Msumbiji kuwa huru Kenyatta akam-offer Machel Landrovers na kuomba uhusiano wa kibiashara. Machel naye alizikataa akasema wakati alipokuwa anazihitaji hakupewa. Kenyatta was a reactionary.
 
kiroba said:
Kasome history mkuu. Nyerere hakupinga bali aliupinga muundo wake. Na wazo la kuunganisha Africa lilitolewa na Jomo Kenyatta. Wakuu jaribuni kuwa na tabia za kusoma makala, msiishie kusoma udaku na vikatuni tu. Hapa wengi watachemka kwa kutokujua historia ya bara letu!
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Jomo Kenyatta namfahamu kama kiongozi mbovu kuliko wote waliopigania uhuru kusini mwa jangwa la sahara!, sidhani kama alikua na akili hiyo. Tena wakenya washukuru Mungu alikufa haraka huyu bwana, leo wangekua wanatoana macho zaidi ya walivyo sasa.

Makala ndefu unazosema watz wanaogopa ni zipi, unaweza kunitajia makala ndefu uliyosoma mwaka huu ilikua na page ngapi?, historia ya africa ni kubwa sana huwezi soma ukamaliza labda kama ume "specialize"
 
Nyerere-Nkrumah picture.jpg
This is one of the rare pictures of these 2 great men
 
Jasusi said:
Kiroba,
Hapo nitakupinga kidogo. Wazo la Pan Africanism aliliembrace Nkrumah wakati akiwa bado mwanafunzi Marekani. Kenyatta amekuja kuli embrace baadaye baada ya kukutana na akina George Padmore Uingereza. Lakini alipokuwa mamlakani hakufanya lolote hata kusaidia tu ukombozi wa kusini mwa Afrika. Yeye alijikita zaidi katika kupanua biashara za Kenya. Kuna wakati nimemsikia marehemu Machel akisimulia jinsi alivyokwenda Kenya kuomba msaada wa Landrover wakati huo akiwa mpiganaji misituni. Kenyatta alikataa. Lakini baada ya Msumbiji kuwa huru Kenyatta akam-offer Machel Landrovers na kuomba uhusiano wa kibiashara. Machel naye alizikataa akasema wakati alipokuwa anazihitaji hakupewa. Kenyatta was a reactionary.
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Nashukuru mkuu kwa elimu yako ulionipa ili niweze sahihisha history niliyonayo. I real appriciate bro. Your a great thinker bro!
 
MTAZAMO said:
Ukiangalia picha kama hii alafu bado unachembechembe za uzalendo lazima nywele zisimame!
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Mtazamo,
I am an optimist by nature. Nikiangalia picha kama hii inanikumbusha kuwa Afrika tuna vichwa. Halafu ukiangalia madudu yanayofanywa na hawa viongozi uchwara tulio nao sasa ninajiuliza: tumerogwa? Lakini tusikate tamaa. Afrika tunayoitaka inawezekana.
 
Tangu lini ngozi nyeusi hususani tanzaniano tukapenda,tukaheshimu na kuthamini vyetu..nilijua tu kuna vichwa vitamnyima haki yake baba yetu wa taifa
 
Ni kweli Nkrumah alipata muamko mkubwa wa kuunganisha watu weusi wote duniani, na pia kuunganisha nchi za Kiafrika, alipokuwa mwanafunzi Amerika. Yeye mwenywe alisema kwamba kiongozi aliyesaidia kumuamsha kiasi hicho kuliko mtu yeyote alikuwa ni Marcus Garvey na kitabu chake, Philisophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey. Garvey alikuwa ni proponent wa Back-to-Africa movement.

Marcus Garvey alikuwa ni M-Jamaica aliyehamia Amerika.

Garvey alijiuliza maswali haya: ""Where is the black man's government? Where is his King and his kingdom? Where is his President, his ambassador, his country, his men of big affairs? I could not find them and then I declared, 'I will help to make them.'"

Nkrumah hakusahau hayo.

Hata jina la bendera ya Ghana, Black Star, ambayo ina nyota nyeusi, linatokana na jina la Black Star Line, kampuni ya meli iliyoanzishwa na Marcus Garvey kuwasaidia watu weusi duniani kufanya biashara na hatimaye kuwasafirisha descendants of African slaves kutoka Amerika na Caribbean kurudi Afrika. Ni Nkrumah aliyeipa bendera ya Ghana jina hilo la Black Star. Mpaka leo, hata timu ya mpira, ambayo ni timu ya taifa, Ghana, inaitwa Black Stars.

Marcus Garvey's slogan was "Africa for Africans, those at home and those abroad." Nkrumah used the same slogan and embraced people of African descendent in the diaspora as fellow Africans.

Uamuzi huo wa Nkrumah wa kuchagua jina la Black Star na kuipa bendera ya taifa jina hilo unanikumbusha wimbo wetu wa taifa, Mungu Ibariki Afrika, ambao umejadiliwa sana hapa Jamii Forums. Kutokana na kauli ya ndugu yetu mmoja mpigania uhuru Afrika Kusini, Jabulani....(nimesahau jina lake la mwisho), Nyerere alimwambia kwenye party, East London, 1960, kwamba ameuchagua wimbo, Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, kuwa wimbo wa taifa la Tanganyika nchi yetu itakapopata uhuru.

Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika inamaanisha God Bless Africa. Wimbo wetu wa taifa ni Mungu Ibariki Afrika (God Bless Africa). Hakuna tofauti.

Kuna Wanajamii hapa waliowahi kuuliza, nani alichagua wimbo wetu wa taifa? Tukiamini kauli hiyo ya Jabulani, ni Nyerere.

Jabulani alizaliwa 1918, mwaka aliozaliwa Madiba, na alifariki 2009 au 2010.

Kulikuwa na article ndefu kuhusu maisha yake, allafrica.com, alipofariki na kuhusu wakati alipokutana na Nyerere, London, 1960.

When they first met at the party in East London in 1960, Jabulani said she was very impressed by Nyerere because of his humility. She said he was a very simple man but brilliant. People noticed how intelligent and wise he was when he started speaking. Kabla ya hapo, you couldn't notice anything about him. Hakujionyesha hata kidogo alikuwa ni kiongozi wa nchi au mtu maarufu and was was just like anybody esle at the party. Hata baada ya miaka mingi, Jabulani said she never forgot the first day she met Nyerere at that party in East London.

Tukirudi kwa Nkrumah, nia yake ya kuziungaisha nchi za Kiafrika mara moja ilikuwa ni ndoto tu. Hapo ndipo alipotofautiana na Nyerere. Ndiyo maana Nyerere alimwambia Nkrumah: "We are not going to have an African Napoleon."

Nyerere alisema alijadili na Nkrumah suala hilo la kuziunganisha nchi zetu walipokutana 1963 na hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliyejadili naye suala hilo kwa undani, kabla na baada ya hapo, kama alivyo lijadili na Nkrumah. Nyerere pia alisema aliandikiana na Nkrumah mara nyingi sana kujadili suala hilo la kuziungaisha nchi zetu. Akaendelea kusema wanahistoria miaka ijayo watapata nafasi ya kulijadili suala hilo watakapo pata fursa ya kuzisoma barua hizo. As Nyerere himself stated:

"Kwame Nkrumah and I were committed to the idea of unity. African leaders and heads of state did not take Kwame seriously. However, I did. I did not believe in these small little nations. Still today I do not believe in them. I tell our people to look at the European Union, at these people who ruled us who are now uniting.

Kwame and I met in 1963 and discussed African Unity. We differed on how to achieve a United States of Africa. But we both agreed on a United States of Africa as necessary. Kwame went to Lincoln University, a black college in the US. He perceived things from the perspective of US history, where the 13 colonies that revolted against the British formed a union. That is what he thought the OAU should do.

I tried to get East Africa to unite before independence. When we failed in this I was wary about Kwame's continental approach. We corresponded profusely on this. Kwame said my idea of `regionalization' was only balkanization on a larger scale. Later African historians will have to study our correspondence on this issue of uniting Africa.

Africans who studied in the US like Nkrumah and [Nigerian independence leader] Azikiwe were more aware of the Diaspora and the global African community than those of us who studied in Britain. They were therefore aware of a wider Pan-Africanism. Theirs was the aggressive Pan-Africanism of WEB Dubois and Marcus Garvey. The colonialists were against this and frightened of it." ( Nyerere, in interview with Ikaweba Bunting, "The Heart of Africa: Interview with Julius Nyerere on Anti-Colonialism," New Internationalist, Issue 309, January - February 1999).

Viongozi wengi walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba huwezi kuziunganisha nchi zote za Afrika mara moja. Wafrika wengine wanaojadili sana masuala ya Afrika, kwa mfano Ali Mazrui, pia walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba hatuwezi kuziungaisha nchi zetu mara moja kama vile Nkrumah alivyotaka. Mazrui amesema wazi: "Nyerere was right. Nkrumah was wrong."

Kuna watu waliomfahamu Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi USA. Mmoja wao alikuwa ni C.L. R. James, a prominent Pan-Africanist, kutoka Trinidad. Alisema alimfahamu sana Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi na alisema " Nkrumah was impatient."

Bado alikuwa impatient aliporudi Afrika na ndiyo maana alipohutubia mtutano wa kwanza wa OAU, Addis Ababa, May 1963, when the OAU was founded, alisema nchi zetu ziungane mara moja. Pia hata kitabu chake, Africa Must Unite, kilichapishwa wakati huo huo kuhakikisha kimetoka kabla ya mkutano wa kwanza wa OAU ili viongozi wengine wakisome na kujua umuhimu wa nchi zetu kuungana mara moja. Pia alipokuwa anapigania uhuru wa nchi yake ya Gold Coast, slogan ya chama chake, Convention People's Party (CPP), ilikuwa "Independence Now."

C.L.R. James alisema Nkrumah alikuwa na moyo wa kutaka kulikomboa bara zima la Afrika kutoka kwa wakoloni hata alipokuwa mwanafunzi. C.L. R. James alikuwa ni Marxist na alisema alijadili masuala ya Marxism na Nkrumah lakini Nkrumah hakujua mambo mengi kuhusu Marxism. Alisema kuhusu Nkrumah: "He talked a lot of nonsense in those days." Lakini baadaye alisema Nkrumah alijifunza mengi kuhusu Marxsim na hotuba yake kwenye mkutano wa Fifth Pan-African Congress, Manchester, UK, 1945, "was an absolute masterpiece."

Na ni C.L. R. James aliyemu introduce Nkrumah kwa George Padmore. Padmore alikuwa anaishi London wakati ule. C.L. R. James alimuandikia barua, ambayo alimpa Nkrumah ili akampe Padmore, ambamo alimwambia Padmore: "Help this young man. He is not very bright but he is determined to kick the white man out of Africa."

C.L. R. James pia aliwalinganisha viongozi hawa, Nkrumah na Nyerere, na alisema Nyerere was far brighter than Nkrumah; an opinion shared by Ali Mazrui who also defended this assessment in an article he wrote in Transition in the late sixties by dissecting Nkrumah's writings and philosophy which he contended were copied from Soviet Marxist literature. In the same article Mazrui also stated that terms such as "The Circle" which Nkrumah's ruling party, the CPP, used, were of Soviet origin; so was "The Spark," the publication of the CPP. The Soviet communist party also had "The Spark," in the Russian language of course. He was emphasising his point that there was nothing original in Nkrumah's thought, unlike Nyerere's.

Pia Mazrui amesema hivi karibuni kwamba hakuna kiongozi yoyote dunia nzima ambaye anamheshimu intellectually kama Nyerere. Amesisitiza pia kwamba Nyerere as an intellectual and as a man of high ethical standards "was in a class by himself."

In his book, On Heroes and Uhuru-Worship: Essays on Independent Africa, Mazrui states that Nyerere is the most original thinker among all the leaders in Anglophone Africa; with Nkrumah being nowhere close to being an original thinker. Also, unlike Nkrumah, Mazrui says Nyerere "was a true philosopher."

Aliporudi Gold Coast (Ghana) 1947 kutoka Uingereza, Nkrumah was boiling. Aliiongoza nchi yake kupigania uhuru na ikawa nchi ya kwanza miongoni mwa nchi za Afrika kusini ya jangawa la Sahara kupata uhuru March 1957; ikafwatwa na Guinea, October 1958, chini ya uongozi wa rafiki yake Ahmed Sekou Toure ambaye pia alikuwa rafiki mkubwa wa Nyerere.

Hata baada ya Ghana kupata uhuru, Nkrumah hakuridhika. Katika hotuba yake mara tu baada ya kupata uhuru, alisema: "The independende of Ghana is meaningless unless it is linked up with the total liberation of Africa."

But it was Nyerere who spearheaded the liberation struggle of the countries of southern Africa which were still under white minority rule. Ndiyo maana mhaini, Ian Smith, alisema Nyerere "is the evil genius on the Rhodesian scene" who is also behind all the liberation wars in southern Africa.

Hata Makaburu walimuogopa Nyerere pamoja na nchi yetu chini ya uongozi wake. "The South African Deputy-Minister of Police, Mr. S.L. Muller, said Tanzania posed 'the greatest potential threat to the Republic.' He claimed there were '40 camps in Tanzania for the training of terrorists and all the offices of subversive organisations.' In Zambia, he said, there were '19 training and transit camps.' A new external service of Radio Tanzania was inaugurated in 1968 to assist in 'propagating the ideological principles of the liberation movements.'" (Colin Legum and John Drysdale, eds., Africa Contemporary Record: Annual Survey and Documents 1968 - 1969, Africa Research Limited, London, 1969, p. 220).

Museveni pia amesema hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliye wakomboa watu weusi kama Nyerere. Amesema Nyerere aliwakomboa zaidi ya 100 million black people. Amesema pia: "Nyerere was the greatest black man who has ever lived."
 
Shwari said:
Ni kweli Nkrumah alipata muamko mkubwa wa kuunganisha watu weusi wote duniani, na pia kuunganisha nchi za Kiafrika, alipokuwa mwanafunzi Amerika. Yeye mwenywe alisema kwamba kiongozi aliyesaidia kumuamsha kiasi hicho kuliko mtu yeyote alikuwa ni Marcus Garvey na kitabu chake, Philisophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey. Garvey alikuwa ni proponent wa Back-to-Africa movement.

Marcus Garvey alikuwa ni M-Jamaica aliyehamia Amerika.

Garvey alijiuliza maswali haya: ""Where is the black man's government? Where is his King and his kingdom? Where is his President, his ambassador, his country, his men of big affairs? I could not find them and then I declared, 'I will help to make them.'"

Nkrumah hakusahau hayo.

Hata jina la bendera ya Ghana, Black Star, ambayo ina nyota nyeusi, linatokana na jina la Black Star Line, kampuni ya meli iliyoanzishwa na Marcus Garvey kuwasaidia watu weusi duniani kufanya biashara na hatimaye kuwasafirisha descendants of African slaves kutoka Amerika na Caribbean kurudi Afrika. Ni Nkrumah aliyeipa bendera ya Ghana jina hilo la Black Star. Mpaka leo, hata timu ya mpira, ambayo ni timu ya taifa, Ghana, inaitwa Black Stars.

Marcus Garvey's slogan was "Africa for Africans, those at home and those abroad." Nkrumah used the same slogan and embraced people of African descendent in the diaspora as fellow Africans.

Uamuzi huo wa Nkrumah wa kuchagua jina la Black Star na kuipa bendera ya taifa jina hilo unanikumbusha wimbo wetu wa taifa, Mungu Ibariki Afrika, ambao umejadiliwa sana hapa Jamii Forums. Kutokana na kauli ya ndugu yetu mmoja mpigania uhuru Afrika Kusini, Jabulani....(nimesahau jina lake la mwisho), Nyerere alimwambia kwenye party, East London, 1960, kwamba ameuchagua wimbo, Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, kuwa wimbo wa taifa la Tanganyika nchi yetu itakapopata uhuru.

Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika inamaanisha God Bless Africa. Wimbo wetu wa taifa ni Mungu Ibariki Afrika (God Bless Africa). Hakuna tofauti.

Kuna Wanajamii hapa waliowahi kuuliza, nani alichagua wimbo wetu wa taifa? Tukiamini kauli hiyo ya Jabulani, ni Nyerere.

Jabulani alizaliwa 1918, mwaka aliozaliwa Madiba, na alifariki 2009 au 2010.

Kulikuwa na article ndefu kuhusu maisha yake, allafrica.com, alipofariki na kuhusu wakati alipokutana na Nyerere, London, 1960.

When they first met at the party in East London in 1960, Jabulani said she was very impressed by Nyerere because of his humility. She said he was a very simple man but brilliant. People noticed how intelligent and wise he was when he started speaking. Kabla ya hapo, you couldn't notice anything about him. Hakujionyesha hata kidogo alikuwa ni kiongozi wa nchi au mtu maarufu and was was just like anybody esle at the party. Hata baada ya miaka mingi, Jabulani said she never forgot the first day she met Nyerere at that party in East London.

Tukirudi kwa Nkrumah, nia yake ya kuziungaisha nchi za Kiafrika mara moja ilikuwa ni ndoto tu. Hapo ndipo alipotofautiana na Nyerere. Ndiyo maana Nyerere alimwambia Nkrumah: "We are not going to have an African Napoleon."

Nyerere alisema alijadili na Nkrumah suala hilo la kuziunganisha nchi zetu walipokutana 1963 na hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliyejadili naye suala hilo kwa undani, kabla na baada ya hapo, kama alivyo lijadili na Nkrumah. Nyerere pia alisema aliandikiana na Nkrumah mara nyingi sana kujadili suala hilo la kuziungaisha nchi zetu. Akaendelea kusema wanahistoria miaka ijayo watapata nafasi ya kulijadili suala hilo watakapo pata fursa ya kuzisoma barua hizo. As Nyerere himself stated:

"Kwame Nkrumah and I were committed to the idea of unity. African leaders and heads of state did not take Kwame seriously. However, I did. I did not believe in these small little nations. Still today I do not believe in them. I tell our people to look at the European Union, at these people who ruled us who are now uniting.

Kwame and I met in 1963 and discussed African Unity. We differed on how to achieve a United States of Africa. But we both agreed on a United States of Africa as necessary. Kwame went to Lincoln University, a black college in the US. He perceived things from the perspective of US history, where the 13 colonies that revolted against the British formed a union. That is what he thought the OAU should do.

I tried to get East Africa to unite before independence. When we failed in this I was wary about Kwame's continental approach. We corresponded profusely on this. Kwame said my idea of `regionalization' was only balkanization on a larger scale. Later African historians will have to study our correspondence on this issue of uniting Africa.

Africans who studied in the US like Nkrumah and [Nigerian independence leader] Azikiwe were more aware of the Diaspora and the global African community than those of us who studied in Britain. They were therefore aware of a wider Pan-Africanism. Theirs was the aggressive Pan-Africanism of WEB Dubois and Marcus Garvey. The colonialists were against this and frightened of it." ( Nyerere, in interview with Ikaweba Bunting, "The Heart of Africa: Interview with Julius Nyerere on Anti-Colonialism," New Internationalist, Issue 309, January - February 1999).

Viongozi wengi walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba huwezi kuziunganisha nchi zote za Afrika mara moja. Wafrika wengine wanaojadili sana masuala ya Afrika, kwa mfano Ali Mazrui, pia walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba hatuwezi kuziungaisha nchi zetu mara moja kama vile Nkrumah alivyotaka. Mazrui amesema wazi: "Nyerere was right. Nkrumah was wrong."

Kuna watu waliomfahamu Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi USA. Mmoja wao alikuwa ni C.L. R. James, a prominent Pan-Africanist, kutoka Trinidad. Alisema alimfahamu sana Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi na alisema " Nkrumah was impatient."

Bado alikuwa impatient aliporudi Afrika na ndiyo maana alipohutubia mtutano wa kwanza wa OAU, Addis Ababa, May 1963, when the OAU was founded, alisema nchi zetu ziungane mara moja. Pia hata kitabu chake, Africa Must Unite, kilichapishwa wakati huo huo kuhakikisha kimetoka kabla ya mkutano wa kwanza wa OAU ili viongozi wengine wakisome na kujua umuhimu wa nchi zetu kuungana mara moja. Pia alipokuwa anapigania uhuru wa nchi yake ya Gold Coast, slogan ya chama chake, Convention People's Party (CPP), ilikuwa "Independence Now."

C.L.R. James alisema Nkrumah alikuwa na moyo wa kutaka kulikomboa bara zima la Afrika kutoka kwa wakoloni hata alipokuwa mwanafunzi. C.L. R. James alikuwa ni Marxist na alisema alijadili masuala ya Marxism na Nkrumah lakini Nkrumah hakujua mambo mengi kuhusu Marxism. Alisema kuhusu Nkrumah: "He talked a lot of nonsense in those days." Lakini baadaye alisema Nkrumah alijifunza mengi kuhusu Marxsim na hotuba yake kwenye mkutano wa Fifth Pan-African Congress, Manchester, UK, 1945, "was an absolute masterpiece."

Na ni C.L. R. James aliyemu introduce Nkrumah kwa George Padmore. Padmore alikuwa anaishi London wakati ule. C.L. R. James alimuandikia barua, ambayo alimpa Nkrumah ili akampe Padmore, ambamo alimwambia Padmore: "Help this young man. He is not very bright but he is determined to kick the white man out of Africa."

C.L. R. James pia aliwalinganisha viongozi hawa, Nkrumah na Nyerere, na alisema Nyerere was far brighter than Nkrumah; an opinion shared by Ali Mazrui who also defended this assessment in an article he wrote in Transition in the late sixties by dissecting Nkrumah's writings and philosophy which he contended were copied from Soviet Marxist literature. In the same article Mazrui also stated that terms such as "The Circle" which Nkrumah's ruling party, the CPP, used, were of Soviet origin; so was "The Spark," the publication of the CPP. The Soviet communist party also had "The Spark," in the Russian language of course. He was emphasising his point that there was nothing original in Nkrumah's thought, unlike Nyerere's.

Pia Mazrui amesema hivi karibuni kwamba hakuna kiongozi yoyote dunia nzima ambaye anamheshimu intellectually kama Nyerere. Amesisitiza pia kwamba Nyerere as an intellectual and as a man of high ethical standards "was in a class by himself."

In his book, On Heroes and Uhuru-Worship: Essays on Independent Africa, Mazrui states that Nyerere is the most original thinker among all the leaders in Anglophone Africa; with Nkrumah being nowhere close to being an original thinker. Also, unlike Nkrumah, Mazrui says Nyerere "was a true philosopher."

Aliporudi Gold Coast (Ghana) 1947 kutoka Uingereza, Nkrumah was boiling. Aliiongoza nchi yake kupigania uhuru na ikawa nchi ya kwanza miongoni mwa nchi za Afrika kusini ya jangawa la Sahara kupata uhuru March 1957; ikafwatwa na Guinea, October 1958, chini ya uongozi wa rafiki yake Ahmed Sekou Toure ambaye pia alikuwa rafiki mkubwa wa Nyerere.

Hata baada ya Ghana kupata uhuru, Nkrumah hakuridhika. Katika hotuba yake mara tu baada ya kupata uhuru, alisema: "The independende of Ghana is meaningless unless it is linked up with the total liberation of Africa."

But it was Nyerere who spearheaded the liberation struggle of the countries of southern Africa which were still under white minority rule. Ndiyo maana mhaini, Ian Smith, alisema Nyerere "is the evil genius on the Rhodesian scene" who is also behind all the liberation wars in southern Africa.

Hata Makaburu walimuogopa Nyerere pamoja na nchi yetu chini ya uongozi wake. "The South African Deputy-Minister of Police, Mr. S.L. Muller, said Tanzania posed 'the greatest potential threat to the Republic.' He claimed there were '40 camps in Tanzania for the training of terrorists and all the offices of subversive organisations.' In Zambia, he said, there were '19 training and transit camps.' A new external service of Radio Tanzania was inaugurated in 1968 to assist in 'propagating the ideological principles of the liberation movements.'" (Colin Legum and John Drysdale, eds., Africa Contemporary Record: Annual Survey and Documents 1968 - 1969, Africa Research Limited, London, 1969, p. 220).

Museveni pia amesema hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliye wakomboa watu weusi kama Nyerere. Amesema Nyerere aliwakomboa zaidi ya 100 million black people. Amesema pia: "Nyerere was the greatest black man who has ever lived."
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Shwari,
Usiwe unapotea sana. Wewe ni hazina adimu hapa JF. Thanks.
 
Shwari said:
Na ni C.L. R. James aliyemu introduce Nkrumah kwa George Padmore. Padmore alikuwa anaishi London wakati ule. C.L. R. James alimuandikia barua, ambayo alimpa Nkrumah ili akampe Padmore, ambamo alimwambia Padmore: "Help this young man. He is not very bright but he is determined to kick the white man out of Africa."
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That was a major diss for the Osagyefo Dr. Kwame Nkrumah.
 
Shwari said:
Ni kweli Nkrumah alipata muamko mkubwa wa kuunganisha watu weusi wote duniani, na pia kuunganisha nchi za Kiafrika, alipokuwa mwanafunzi Amerika. Yeye mwenywe alisema kwamba kiongozi aliyesaidia kumuamsha kiasi hicho kuliko mtu yeyote alikuwa ni Marcus Garvey na kitabu chake, Philisophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey. Garvey alikuwa ni proponent wa Back-to-Africa movement.

Marcus Garvey alikuwa ni M-Jamaica aliyehamia Amerika.

Garvey alijiuliza maswali haya: ""Where is the black man's government? Where is his King and his kingdom? Where is his President, his ambassador, his country, his men of big affairs? I could not find them and then I declared, 'I will help to make them.'"

Nkrumah hakusahau hayo.

Hata jina la bendera ya Ghana, Black Star, ambayo ina nyota nyeusi, linatokana na jina la Black Star Line, kampuni ya meli iliyoanzishwa na Marcus Garvey kuwasaidia watu weusi duniani kufanya biashara na hatimaye kuwasafirisha descendants of African slaves kutoka Amerika na Caribbean kurudi Afrika. Ni Nkrumah aliyeipa bendera ya Ghana jina hilo la Black Star. Mpaka leo, hata timu ya mpira, ambayo ni timu ya taifa, Ghana, inaitwa Black Stars.

Marcus Garvey's slogan was "Africa for Africans, those at home and those abroad." Nkrumah used the same slogan and embraced people of African descendent in the diaspora as fellow Africans.

Uamuzi huo wa Nkrumah wa kuchagua jina la Black Star na kuipa bendera ya taifa jina hilo unanikumbusha wimbo wetu wa taifa, Mungu Ibariki Afrika, ambao umejadiliwa sana hapa Jamii Forums. Kutokana na kauli ya ndugu yetu mmoja mpigania uhuru Afrika Kusini, Jabulani....(nimesahau jina lake la mwisho), Nyerere alimwambia kwenye party, East London, 1960, kwamba ameuchagua wimbo, Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, kuwa wimbo wa taifa la Tanganyika nchi yetu itakapopata uhuru.

Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika inamaanisha God Bless Africa. Wimbo wetu wa taifa ni Mungu Ibariki Afrika (God Bless Africa). Hakuna tofauti.

Kuna Wanajamii hapa waliowahi kuuliza, nani alichagua wimbo wetu wa taifa? Tukiamini kauli hiyo ya Jabulani, ni Nyerere.

Jabulani alizaliwa 1918, mwaka aliozaliwa Madiba, na alifariki 2009 au 2010.

Kulikuwa na article ndefu kuhusu maisha yake, allafrica.com, alipofariki na kuhusu wakati alipokutana na Nyerere, London, 1960.

When they first met at the party in East London in 1960, Jabulani said she was very impressed by Nyerere because of his humility. She said he was a very simple man but brilliant. People noticed how intelligent and wise he was when he started speaking. Kabla ya hapo, you couldn't notice anything about him. Hakujionyesha hata kidogo alikuwa ni kiongozi wa nchi au mtu maarufu and was was just like anybody esle at the party. Hata baada ya miaka mingi, Jabulani said she never forgot the first day she met Nyerere at that party in East London.

Tukirudi kwa Nkrumah, nia yake ya kuziungaisha nchi za Kiafrika mara moja ilikuwa ni ndoto tu. Hapo ndipo alipotofautiana na Nyerere. Ndiyo maana Nyerere alimwambia Nkrumah: "We are not going to have an African Napoleon."

Nyerere alisema alijadili na Nkrumah suala hilo la kuziunganisha nchi zetu walipokutana 1963 na hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliyejadili naye suala hilo kwa undani, kabla na baada ya hapo, kama alivyo lijadili na Nkrumah. Nyerere pia alisema aliandikiana na Nkrumah mara nyingi sana kujadili suala hilo la kuziungaisha nchi zetu. Akaendelea kusema wanahistoria miaka ijayo watapata nafasi ya kulijadili suala hilo watakapo pata fursa ya kuzisoma barua hizo. As Nyerere himself stated:

"Kwame Nkrumah and I were committed to the idea of unity. African leaders and heads of state did not take Kwame seriously. However, I did. I did not believe in these small little nations. Still today I do not believe in them. I tell our people to look at the European Union, at these people who ruled us who are now uniting.

Kwame and I met in 1963 and discussed African Unity. We differed on how to achieve a United States of Africa. But we both agreed on a United States of Africa as necessary. Kwame went to Lincoln University, a black college in the US. He perceived things from the perspective of US history, where the 13 colonies that revolted against the British formed a union. That is what he thought the OAU should do.

I tried to get East Africa to unite before independence. When we failed in this I was wary about Kwame's continental approach. We corresponded profusely on this. Kwame said my idea of `regionalization' was only balkanization on a larger scale. Later African historians will have to study our correspondence on this issue of uniting Africa.

Africans who studied in the US like Nkrumah and [Nigerian independence leader] Azikiwe were more aware of the Diaspora and the global African community than those of us who studied in Britain. They were therefore aware of a wider Pan-Africanism. Theirs was the aggressive Pan-Africanism of WEB Dubois and Marcus Garvey. The colonialists were against this and frightened of it." ( Nyerere, in interview with Ikaweba Bunting, "The Heart of Africa: Interview with Julius Nyerere on Anti-Colonialism," New Internationalist, Issue 309, January - February 1999).

Viongozi wengi walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba huwezi kuziunganisha nchi zote za Afrika mara moja. Wafrika wengine wanaojadili sana masuala ya Afrika, kwa mfano Ali Mazrui, pia walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba hatuwezi kuziungaisha nchi zetu mara moja kama vile Nkrumah alivyotaka. Mazrui amesema wazi: "Nyerere was right. Nkrumah was wrong."

Kuna watu waliomfahamu Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi USA. Mmoja wao alikuwa ni C.L. R. James, a prominent Pan-Africanist, kutoka Trinidad. Alisema alimfahamu sana Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi na alisema " Nkrumah was impatient."

Bado alikuwa impatient aliporudi Afrika na ndiyo maana alipohutubia mtutano wa kwanza wa OAU, Addis Ababa, May 1963, when the OAU was founded, alisema nchi zetu ziungane mara moja. Pia hata kitabu chake, Africa Must Unite, kilichapishwa wakati huo huo kuhakikisha kimetoka kabla ya mkutano wa kwanza wa OAU ili viongozi wengine wakisome na kujua umuhimu wa nchi zetu kuungana mara moja. Pia alipokuwa anapigania uhuru wa nchi yake ya Gold Coast, slogan ya chama chake, Convention People's Party (CPP), ilikuwa "Independence Now."

C.L.R. James alisema Nkrumah alikuwa na moyo wa kutaka kulikomboa bara zima la Afrika kutoka kwa wakoloni hata alipokuwa mwanafunzi. C.L. R. James alikuwa ni Marxist na alisema alijadili masuala ya Marxism na Nkrumah lakini Nkrumah hakujua mambo mengi kuhusu Marxism. Alisema kuhusu Nkrumah: "He talked a lot of nonsense in those days." Lakini baadaye alisema Nkrumah alijifunza mengi kuhusu Marxsim na hotuba yake kwenye mkutano wa Fifth Pan-African Congress, Manchester, UK, 1945, "was an absolute masterpiece."

Na ni C.L. R. James aliyemu introduce Nkrumah kwa George Padmore. Padmore alikuwa anaishi London wakati ule. C.L. R. James alimuandikia barua, ambayo alimpa Nkrumah ili akampe Padmore, ambamo alimwambia Padmore: "Help this young man. He is not very bright but he is determined to kick the white man out of Africa."

C.L. R. James pia aliwalinganisha viongozi hawa, Nkrumah na Nyerere, na alisema Nyerere was far brighter than Nkrumah; an opinion shared by Ali Mazrui who also defended this assessment in an article he wrote in Transition in the late sixties by dissecting Nkrumah's writings and philosophy which he contended were copied from Soviet Marxist literature. In the same article Mazrui also stated that terms such as "The Circle" which Nkrumah's ruling party, the CPP, used, were of Soviet origin; so was "The Spark," the publication of the CPP. The Soviet communist party also had "The Spark," in the Russian language of course. He was emphasising his point that there was nothing original in Nkrumah's thought, unlike Nyerere's.

Pia Mazrui amesema hivi karibuni kwamba hakuna kiongozi yoyote dunia nzima ambaye anamheshimu intellectually kama Nyerere. Amesisitiza pia kwamba Nyerere as an intellectual and as a man of high ethical standards "was in a class by himself."

In his book, On Heroes and Uhuru-Worship: Essays on Independent Africa, Mazrui states that Nyerere is the most original thinker among all the leaders in Anglophone Africa; with Nkrumah being nowhere close to being an original thinker. Also, unlike Nkrumah, Mazrui says Nyerere "was a true philosopher."

Aliporudi Gold Coast (Ghana) 1947 kutoka Uingereza, Nkrumah was boiling. Aliiongoza nchi yake kupigania uhuru na ikawa nchi ya kwanza miongoni mwa nchi za Afrika kusini ya jangawa la Sahara kupata uhuru March 1957; ikafwatwa na Guinea, October 1958, chini ya uongozi wa rafiki yake Ahmed Sekou Toure ambaye pia alikuwa rafiki mkubwa wa Nyerere.

Hata baada ya Ghana kupata uhuru, Nkrumah hakuridhika. Katika hotuba yake mara tu baada ya kupata uhuru, alisema: "The independende of Ghana is meaningless unless it is linked up with the total liberation of Africa."

But it was Nyerere who spearheaded the liberation struggle of the countries of southern Africa which were still under white minority rule. Ndiyo maana mhaini, Ian Smith, alisema Nyerere "is the evil genius on the Rhodesian scene" who is also behind all the liberation wars in southern Africa.

Hata Makaburu walimuogopa Nyerere pamoja na nchi yetu chini ya uongozi wake. "The South African Deputy-Minister of Police, Mr. S.L. Muller, said Tanzania posed 'the greatest potential threat to the Republic.' He claimed there were '40 camps in Tanzania for the training of terrorists and all the offices of subversive organisations.' In Zambia, he said, there were '19 training and transit camps.' A new external service of Radio Tanzania was inaugurated in 1968 to assist in 'propagating the ideological principles of the liberation movements.'" (Colin Legum and John Drysdale, eds., Africa Contemporary Record: Annual Survey and Documents 1968 - 1969, Africa Research Limited, London, 1969, p. 220).

Museveni pia amesema hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliye wakomboa watu weusi kama Nyerere. Amesema Nyerere aliwakomboa zaidi ya 100 million black people. Amesema pia: "Nyerere was the greatest black man who has ever lived."
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Nadhani MUNGU amekurejesha ili na mimi nipate uelewa juu ya watu hawa wawili.Umeniangazia mno mkuu
 
Kuna mshkaji wangu mmoja mGhana,tulijadiliana hili siku moja,wala hakusema mengi,akaishia kusema tu 'Nyerere was an intelligent thinker'
 
Shwari, heshima kwako!..tunahitaji watu wengi zaidi kama wewe humu; well-researched piece....umeniongezea mengi ambayo sikuyajua! asante sana
Shwari said:
Ni kweli Nkrumah alipata muamko mkubwa wa kuunganisha watu weusi wote duniani, na pia kuunganisha nchi za Kiafrika, alipokuwa mwanafunzi Amerika. Yeye mwenywe alisema kwamba kiongozi aliyesaidia kumuamsha kiasi hicho kuliko mtu yeyote alikuwa ni Marcus Garvey na kitabu chake, Philisophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey. Garvey alikuwa ni proponent wa Back-to-Africa movement.

Marcus Garvey alikuwa ni M-Jamaica aliyehamia Amerika.

Garvey alijiuliza maswali haya: ""Where is the black man's government? Where is his King and his kingdom? Where is his President, his ambassador, his country, his men of big affairs? I could not find them and then I declared, 'I will help to make them.'"

Nkrumah hakusahau hayo.

Hata jina la bendera ya Ghana, Black Star, ambayo ina nyota nyeusi, linatokana na jina la Black Star Line, kampuni ya meli iliyoanzishwa na Marcus Garvey kuwasaidia watu weusi duniani kufanya biashara na hatimaye kuwasafirisha descendants of African slaves kutoka Amerika na Caribbean kurudi Afrika. Ni Nkrumah aliyeipa bendera ya Ghana jina hilo la Black Star. Mpaka leo, hata timu ya mpira, ambayo ni timu ya taifa, Ghana, inaitwa Black Stars.

Marcus Garvey's slogan was "Africa for Africans, those at home and those abroad." Nkrumah used the same slogan and embraced people of African descendent in the diaspora as fellow Africans.

Uamuzi huo wa Nkrumah wa kuchagua jina la Black Star na kuipa bendera ya taifa jina hilo unanikumbusha wimbo wetu wa taifa, Mungu Ibariki Afrika, ambao umejadiliwa sana hapa Jamii Forums. Kutokana na kauli ya ndugu yetu mmoja mpigania uhuru Afrika Kusini, Jabulani....(nimesahau jina lake la mwisho), Nyerere alimwambia kwenye party, East London, 1960, kwamba ameuchagua wimbo, Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, kuwa wimbo wa taifa la Tanganyika nchi yetu itakapopata uhuru.

Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika inamaanisha God Bless Africa. Wimbo wetu wa taifa ni Mungu Ibariki Afrika (God Bless Africa). Hakuna tofauti.

Kuna Wanajamii hapa waliowahi kuuliza, nani alichagua wimbo wetu wa taifa? Tukiamini kauli hiyo ya Jabulani, ni Nyerere.

Jabulani alizaliwa 1918, mwaka aliozaliwa Madiba, na alifariki 2009 au 2010.

Kulikuwa na article ndefu kuhusu maisha yake, allafrica.com, alipofariki na kuhusu wakati alipokutana na Nyerere, London, 1960.

When they first met at the party in East London in 1960, Jabulani said she was very impressed by Nyerere because of his humility. She said he was a very simple man but brilliant. People noticed how intelligent and wise he was when he started speaking. Kabla ya hapo, you couldn't notice anything about him. Hakujionyesha hata kidogo alikuwa ni kiongozi wa nchi au mtu maarufu and was was just like anybody esle at the party. Hata baada ya miaka mingi, Jabulani said she never forgot the first day she met Nyerere at that party in East London.

Tukirudi kwa Nkrumah, nia yake ya kuziungaisha nchi za Kiafrika mara moja ilikuwa ni ndoto tu. Hapo ndipo alipotofautiana na Nyerere. Ndiyo maana Nyerere alimwambia Nkrumah: "We are not going to have an African Napoleon."

Nyerere alisema alijadili na Nkrumah suala hilo la kuziunganisha nchi zetu walipokutana 1963 na hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliyejadili naye suala hilo kwa undani, kabla na baada ya hapo, kama alivyo lijadili na Nkrumah. Nyerere pia alisema aliandikiana na Nkrumah mara nyingi sana kujadili suala hilo la kuziungaisha nchi zetu. Akaendelea kusema wanahistoria miaka ijayo watapata nafasi ya kulijadili suala hilo watakapo pata fursa ya kuzisoma barua hizo. As Nyerere himself stated:

"Kwame Nkrumah and I were committed to the idea of unity. African leaders and heads of state did not take Kwame seriously. However, I did. I did not believe in these small little nations. Still today I do not believe in them. I tell our people to look at the European Union, at these people who ruled us who are now uniting.

Kwame and I met in 1963 and discussed African Unity. We differed on how to achieve a United States of Africa. But we both agreed on a United States of Africa as necessary. Kwame went to Lincoln University, a black college in the US. He perceived things from the perspective of US history, where the 13 colonies that revolted against the British formed a union. That is what he thought the OAU should do.

I tried to get East Africa to unite before independence. When we failed in this I was wary about Kwame's continental approach. We corresponded profusely on this. Kwame said my idea of `regionalization' was only balkanization on a larger scale. Later African historians will have to study our correspondence on this issue of uniting Africa.

Africans who studied in the US like Nkrumah and [Nigerian independence leader] Azikiwe were more aware of the Diaspora and the global African community than those of us who studied in Britain. They were therefore aware of a wider Pan-Africanism. Theirs was the aggressive Pan-Africanism of WEB Dubois and Marcus Garvey. The colonialists were against this and frightened of it." ( Nyerere, in interview with Ikaweba Bunting, "The Heart of Africa: Interview with Julius Nyerere on Anti-Colonialism," New Internationalist, Issue 309, January - February 1999).

Viongozi wengi walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba huwezi kuziunganisha nchi zote za Afrika mara moja. Wafrika wengine wanaojadili sana masuala ya Afrika, kwa mfano Ali Mazrui, pia walikubaliana na Nyerere kwamba hatuwezi kuziungaisha nchi zetu mara moja kama vile Nkrumah alivyotaka. Mazrui amesema wazi: "Nyerere was right. Nkrumah was wrong."

Kuna watu waliomfahamu Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi USA. Mmoja wao alikuwa ni C.L. R. James, a prominent Pan-Africanist, kutoka Trinidad. Alisema alimfahamu sana Nkrumah alipokuwa mwanafunzi na alisema " Nkrumah was impatient."

Bado alikuwa impatient aliporudi Afrika na ndiyo maana alipohutubia mtutano wa kwanza wa OAU, Addis Ababa, May 1963, when the OAU was founded, alisema nchi zetu ziungane mara moja. Pia hata kitabu chake, Africa Must Unite, kilichapishwa wakati huo huo kuhakikisha kimetoka kabla ya mkutano wa kwanza wa OAU ili viongozi wengine wakisome na kujua umuhimu wa nchi zetu kuungana mara moja. Pia alipokuwa anapigania uhuru wa nchi yake ya Gold Coast, slogan ya chama chake, Convention People's Party (CPP), ilikuwa "Independence Now."

C.L.R. James alisema Nkrumah alikuwa na moyo wa kutaka kulikomboa bara zima la Afrika kutoka kwa wakoloni hata alipokuwa mwanafunzi. C.L. R. James alikuwa ni Marxist na alisema alijadili masuala ya Marxism na Nkrumah lakini Nkrumah hakujua mambo mengi kuhusu Marxism. Alisema kuhusu Nkrumah: "He talked a lot of nonsense in those days." Lakini baadaye alisema Nkrumah alijifunza mengi kuhusu Marxsim na hotuba yake kwenye mkutano wa Fifth Pan-African Congress, Manchester, UK, 1945, "was an absolute masterpiece."

Na ni C.L. R. James aliyemu introduce Nkrumah kwa George Padmore. Padmore alikuwa anaishi London wakati ule. C.L. R. James alimuandikia barua, ambayo alimpa Nkrumah ili akampe Padmore, ambamo alimwambia Padmore: "Help this young man. He is not very bright but he is determined to kick the white man out of Africa."

C.L. R. James pia aliwalinganisha viongozi hawa, Nkrumah na Nyerere, na alisema Nyerere was far brighter than Nkrumah; an opinion shared by Ali Mazrui who also defended this assessment in an article he wrote in Transition in the late sixties by dissecting Nkrumah's writings and philosophy which he contended were copied from Soviet Marxist literature. In the same article Mazrui also stated that terms such as "The Circle" which Nkrumah's ruling party, the CPP, used, were of Soviet origin; so was "The Spark," the publication of the CPP. The Soviet communist party also had "The Spark," in the Russian language of course. He was emphasising his point that there was nothing original in Nkrumah's thought, unlike Nyerere's.

Pia Mazrui amesema hivi karibuni kwamba hakuna kiongozi yoyote dunia nzima ambaye anamheshimu intellectually kama Nyerere. Amesisitiza pia kwamba Nyerere as an intellectual and as a man of high ethical standards "was in a class by himself."

In his book, On Heroes and Uhuru-Worship: Essays on Independent Africa, Mazrui states that Nyerere is the most original thinker among all the leaders in Anglophone Africa; with Nkrumah being nowhere close to being an original thinker. Also, unlike Nkrumah, Mazrui says Nyerere "was a true philosopher."

Aliporudi Gold Coast (Ghana) 1947 kutoka Uingereza, Nkrumah was boiling. Aliiongoza nchi yake kupigania uhuru na ikawa nchi ya kwanza miongoni mwa nchi za Afrika kusini ya jangawa la Sahara kupata uhuru March 1957; ikafwatwa na Guinea, October 1958, chini ya uongozi wa rafiki yake Ahmed Sekou Toure ambaye pia alikuwa rafiki mkubwa wa Nyerere.

Hata baada ya Ghana kupata uhuru, Nkrumah hakuridhika. Katika hotuba yake mara tu baada ya kupata uhuru, alisema: "The independende of Ghana is meaningless unless it is linked up with the total liberation of Africa."

But it was Nyerere who spearheaded the liberation struggle of the countries of southern Africa which were still under white minority rule. Ndiyo maana mhaini, Ian Smith, alisema Nyerere "is the evil genius on the Rhodesian scene" who is also behind all the liberation wars in southern Africa.

Hata Makaburu walimuogopa Nyerere pamoja na nchi yetu chini ya uongozi wake. "The South African Deputy-Minister of Police, Mr. S.L. Muller, said Tanzania posed 'the greatest potential threat to the Republic.' He claimed there were '40 camps in Tanzania for the training of terrorists and all the offices of subversive organisations.' In Zambia, he said, there were '19 training and transit camps.' A new external service of Radio Tanzania was inaugurated in 1968 to assist in 'propagating the ideological principles of the liberation movements.'" (Colin Legum and John Drysdale, eds., Africa Contemporary Record: Annual Survey and Documents 1968 - 1969, Africa Research Limited, London, 1969, p. 220).

Museveni pia amesema hakuna kiongozi yeyote aliye wakomboa watu weusi kama Nyerere. Amesema Nyerere aliwakomboa zaidi ya 100 million black people. Amesema pia: "Nyerere was the greatest black man who has ever lived."
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Nyani Ngabu said:
That was a major diss for the Osagyefo Dr. Kwame Nkrumah.
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Nyani,
Ngoja nijidai kidogo hapa. Mwaka 1972 nikiwa chuoni rafiki yangu kutoka Trinidad and Tobago alinichukua nyumbani kwa CLR James hapa Washington. Alipojua natoka Tanzania hakutaka niondoke. Needless to say, nyumbani kwake kuligeuka kuwa mahali pa kutembelea baada ya masomo. I just came to realize a few years later how much historic this man was.
 
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