Ukweli kuhusu ugomvi wa January Makamba na Lisa Rockefeller

[VoiceOfReason]

Be careful (VoiceOfReason), tuhuma inatakiwa iwe na evidence ndio iweze kukamilika...
Ukishamtaja mtu kama ni mtuhumiwa, lazima ujiandae na ushahidi. Ninachotaka mimi ni kwamba, source ya hiyo taarifa iko wapi???? Elewa swali kaka, usije kuja fungwa kwa kutoelewa swali.

Hapa ni sehemu ya kuchambua mambo kwa undani, na kwa ushahidi pia. Mtu mwenye busara hawezi kuwa na right ya kuongea kama hana evidence (that is how greaters thinkers do). Naomba na wewe ufikirie kwa mapana hayo...

Even "no Comment" is a Comment....... as far as am concerned you have commented three times.....

Now every story have got different angles.... there is a story about the accused and the accuser (that is true you can not comment about the aforesaid until you get the evidence, but its hard for the informer to disclose the source).

There is the story about the beef btn the two... (if its true or not) and am sure you can comment on that... if you know otherwise you can comment on it....

There are precedents what has happened before in the same lines of of what the informer said has happened here again you can comment on that.... Otherwise you can just ask do as you did commenting about validity of the story

 

[kmwemtsi]

February Anawaaibisha watanzania

 

[Kiherehere]

We inaonekana una beef na January, how can we trust your words.

Kama hujui hata ishu ilipoanzia SI UNGEULIZA??? Kwani unakimbizwa??? Kama huna comment.... SOMA ZA WENZIO ZITAKUJENGA UJUE MADA.
Ni mgeni kwenye hili....

 

[Mabel]

Ka January nako kanatema cheche kwa wahisani? Kamesahau baba zake wanavyokwenda kule kuombaomba.
Kazi kwelikweli, Tanzania na ufisadi, ndio maana wako tayari kufanya lolote kupambana na mawazo mbadala wanayoona yatawatoa kwenye sysytem na kuishi kama sasa (probably bila amani). Mazoea kweli ni mabaya, ka January kana fikiri huko nako ni Bongo?

Kuna tofauti kubwa kati ya watu wa Iloganzala na New York.

 

[Misterdennis]

hawezi kuwa humu eti kwa sababu huu ni mtandao wa wachaga, chadema na wakatoliki. hivyo ndo asemavyo.. sijui kuna ukweli wowote

Alikueleza hivyo face to face ?

 

[kayumba]

Kazi ipo, kwasababu ya uchaguzi kuisha mengi mbona yatajulikana!

Make election corruption free to avoid more scandalz!

 

[Game Theory]

Naomba nijibwe maswali yangu

 

[Easymutant]

Tuwekee link ya chanzo cha habari ili TUJANUARIKE huko :teeth:

here is the link
https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-...i-wa-january-makamba-na-lisa-rockefeller.html

 

[RealMan]

Tanzania's election
Promises, promises

But they are too weak to topple the all-powerful CCM. Mr Kikwete and
Tanzania will gently potter along. If the likes of Mr Makamba managed to
take over the CCM, things might pick up a lot faster. But not, it seems,
just yet.

Source: The Economist

So the boy is already eying 2015 Presidency. If he had the campaigns of that scale during primaries against Shelukindo, I bet he'll double JK's 2010 presidential campaign budget come 2015. My wary would be as it is now, "the source of all these monies"!
If he wants to achieve his political career by hook and crook then its a concern of any well wisher.

Otherwise I find the thread to have some correlation with Mr II's ongoing cry on "Malaria No More".

 

[Mhafidhina]

Alishazoea kutishia vijana wa kinondoni akiafikiri Lisa ni type hio...! This time amegusa pabaya...! I am glad walau watu wapata accountability of their words and actions...!

Mimi ningeshauri hao Homeland security wam-ban hata kikwete kabisa...!

 

[Jasusi]

couple of things.

1. Tunaomba jina la huo mradi ambao mwanzisha thread amesema uko Mbeya

2. Tunaomba donors wa huo Mradi na una worth kiasi gani

3. Tunaomba namba za simu za hapa Tanzania za wenye huo mradi ili tuwapigie simu ili wa veryfy hizi allegations dhidi ya January vs Lisa

4. Tunaomba utueleze Lisa anaingiaje kwenye hii issue, nimetazama katika family tree ya Rockefeller lakini sijampata labda ungetuambia ana ofisi wapi huko US, na ofisi yake nashughulika na na nini ili tupate picha kamili

5. Baada ya hapo si vibaya tukapata ukweli kuhusu chanzo cha kutokuelewana kwa hawa wawili (kama tusha establish) vilivyoulizwa hapo juu

6. Si vibaya kucheki na Ubalozi wa USA hapa Dar ambao wanaweza kutupatia ukweli kama je JM ana travel ban au la.

7. Hayo ya JK kutompa uwaziri etc sidhani kama yana umuhimu zaidi kwani nadhani Mbunge ana constituency kubwa zaidi na kama sikosei Jimbo la Bumbuli lina watu zaidi ya lasi 2 na nusu, na owte wanahitaji ahadi zote alizoziahidi J wakati wa Kampeni zitimizwe sasa eti kwa sababu hayupo kwenye baraza la mawaziri sidhani kama lina merit hata kidogo.

haya JF na kikosi chenu cha CSI ingieni kazini ili tupate ukweli ama sivyo tutakuwa hatumtendei haki huyu bwana kwa kuanzisha mambo bila ya kuwa na ushahidi wowote ule

Ukishapata majibu na details kwa maswali yako then what?

 

[VoiceOfReason]

Ukishapata majibu na details kwa maswali yako then what?

True ndugu yangu.... mtu kapata tetesi kaleta Jamvini watu wanaanza kumuandama, kumkashifu na kumpa assignment za kutafuta habari zaidi.. utafikilia wanamlipa

 

[omarilyas]

Men, it is not only the January Makamba on the black-book with the US but rather the list could be growing a little longer over time with the entire international community.

The list could be longer than most us could imagine. With every foot-print they leave behind a magnifying glass is thoroughly scrutinising their schemes against Tanzanians for own good. It is NOT ONLY Makamba Junior but more so to do with his larger group of closer compatriots whod badly seeks to promote the Islamic Extremism in East Africa, syndicate of drug dealers, and traders in Uranium at best. Indeed, the blackbook will be soon catching up with every other person who may have directly or indirectly assisted the course could sooner be in for major suprises.

For those who have had a hand in offering the Iranian Rostam Azizi luxuries of state-protection as he plunder natural wealth of the nation and furthers the LARGER IRANIAN INTERESTS to promote Islam by force and engage in SECRET EXPORTING of URANIUM. The rather too elaborate under-the-table deals in which DAR ES SALAAM is vigourously seen to be CLANDESTINELY ASSISTING TEHRAN to grow her MOST DANGEROUS NUCLEAR Capabilities yet on another hand, as it offers the Western World a false smile on another face is just so deeply hypocritical of the whole scene here.

More still, it is very interesting to see a country as poor as our taking the business to sponsor nuclear projects in other nations against the expectations of many, exporting capital to build in other nations as a lot other keep buying buildings in the west.

Sure, the black list may not so long from now cause REAL CONCERNS and reason to take practical action to permanently put the Rostam-Aziz-and -State rat-race under our pittiful glare to an unceremonious halt. The black business of trading in wrong frontiers and the suprising concerted urge since early 1990 to fast-track extention of Islamic Etremism and instances of terrorist activities along the larger COASTAL STRIP of African Continent (from Mozambique to Somalia) is much drawing closer interests at unravelling the bigger underlying motive.

The major plans courtesy help of Rostam Aziz and assisted by the selfish extremist Islamic sections of State-organs of our country that seeks to Sponsor his Terrorist Mastermind activities under the FALACIOUS HOPE of getting financial assistance to BUY every other election to stay in power forever and enjoy inreased influence over other religions is just so disgusting to note.

The world is also fast becoming impatient with Dar es Salaam's siphoning of public funds to build the most glittering city of Dubai as poverty levels escalates in our midsts.

Hivi Rutashobanyuma yuko wapi....Hili zengwe linafanana na lile la kabla ya 2005 waliopelekewa "BWANA WaKUBWA"

 

[tarita]

Unfortunately wewe unaitwa shetani. Lazima uutetee ushetani hata kama unachafua heshima ya Taifa hili. Sorry unatia kinyaa!!!Keep quite shetani.

 

[Quinine]

Naomba nijibwe maswali yangu

Bwana mkubwa unaagiza ka chips ongeza kachumbari na pilipli kwa mbaaali..... shame.

 

[Iza]

Washaambiana kuwa uongozi wa taifa hili ni mali ya familia zao,watafanya kila waliwezalo ikiwa ni kukwiba mifedha ya miradi ili tu wakapunge upepo Ikulu,,..

 

[VoiceOfReason]

Bwana mkubwa unaagiza ka chips ongeza kachumbari na pilipli kwa mbaaali..... shame.

An ungrateful man is like a hog under a tree eating acorns, but never looking up to see where they come from

 

[Selemani]

Just because this is an open forum, hatupewi sababu ya kujadili a made up story. Hii ishu ya Lisa Lokafela na January Makamba is made up when facebook was mashed with Jambo Forum fueled with allegations on folks anonymity. At the end of the day, we discussing a non story.

Yaani JM is banned to US because some Lokafela daughter "speculated" that this Ernesto Sheka's character who abused her ON FACEBOOK is January. And that will be sufficient crime and evidence kumfanya JM asikanyage States. That is silly.

And Sugu is incompetent. So as Ezekiah Wenje, how do u get paid all that MPs money halafu unachangisha wananchi wakununulie furnitures. Seriously, wananchi wachange kujenga visima vya maji or something, sio fenicha zako. And these ****** in Mwanza wakachanga. Unbelievable! Bongo tambarare.

 

[FITINA ZA KWELI]

hivi januari ndiye yule mtoto aliyetokana na ule ushetani uliofanywa na baba yake kwa yule mwanaffunzi?

 

[SUNGUSIA]

duuhh sasa kazi imeanza ngoja tuone mwisho utakuwa nini..