Ukweli kuhusu mpaka wa Tanzania na Malawi

[Kipoporu]

Si wanajidanganya na uzalendo ulioonyeshwa na kwa Nyerere enzi za vita ya uganda wakidhani na sasa huo uzalendo upo, tutawakimbia na hawataamini kitakachowakuta

Sawa MKUU. JWTZ wamekuwa POLICCM mitaani NTWARA na UZALENDO na IMANI wa WATZ kwa JWTZ haupo tena

 

[Yericko Nyerere]

Joyce Banda ni mpuuzi kama walivyo wapuuzi wengine,

Tayari Mungu kamjaalia ana maziwa mawili, je la tatu ataliweka wapi?

 

[simplemind]

Vile mpaka wa Zanzibar na Tangayika unaeleweka vizuri? Siamini Chumbe ndio mwisho wa mamlaka ya watu wa Zanzibar.

 

[frank cain]

Kuna vichaa vya aina nyingi. Hiki nacho not kichaa. Marais hawatakiwagi kuwa vichaa

 

[Mjomba wa taifa]

Mtanzania,

Ni kweli unachosema juu ya Mto Songwe na pia ni kweli nilichosema kuhusu Lake. ni kweli haijawahi kuwepona mgogoro.....................jambo lililojiri ni kutoka kwa sisi wenyewe wananchi kuzungumza juu ya Ziwa hili na ndio maana hizi serikali mbili ikabidi zichukue hatua kufanya hizo survey (both to the Lake and mto Songwe) ili kuwekana sawa....................... ninajua nilichokisema kilitokea na kazi inaendelea

Tehe tehe tehe

 

[seniorgeek]

Joyce Banda ni mpuuzi kama walivyo wapuuzi wengine,

Tayari Mungu kamjaalia ana maziwa mawili, je la tatu ataliweka wapi?

I see what you did there!
Bwa ha ha ha.

 

[simplemind]

Ndugu watanganyika tuheshimu mipaka ya wakoloni. AU inalijua hilo.

 

[bushman]

[h=5]Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda[/h]on Sunday

My fellow Malawians
I can confirm that our government invited former presidents of Mozambique and South Africa, His Excellences Mr Joaquim Chissano and Mr Thabo Mbeki over the issue of Lake Malawi border dispute with Tanzania.
The reason for this meeting was to express our gravest concerns that Tanzania is now making unsubstantiated statements shifting the border line to be in the middle of the lake and reports that Tanzania is considering to deploy boats in Lake Malawi while the outcome of the mediation process that both countries are taking part has not been determined.
We consider such position by our Tanzanian brothers and sisters as lack of sincerity on their part hence we found it necessary as a matter of urgency to brief and update Presidents Thabo Mbeki and Joaquim Chissano who are part of the mediation team.
I also invited leaders of opposition parties to be part of this process as Malawi belongs to us all and I am very thankful for their valuable contributions especially Mr Joseph Kubwalo who was our Malawi's High Commissioner to the Republic of Tanzania in 1995 as he provided very important information regarding our lake during this meeting.
We understand that former president of Malawi Mr Bakili Muluzi and former President of Tanzania Mr Nkapa made an agreement in 1995 for the construction of a railway line between Mbamba Bay and Ntwala for Malawi to be able to transport its good directly from the sea.
Since then, it has been a procedure and protocol for Tanzania asking for permission through our Malawi High Commission's office in Tanzania to access our waters and such permission was usually granted. Now, we are wondering when was this protocol changed for Tanzania to consider deploying boats in our waters without our permission and to start making unsubstantiated border claims on our lake.
It is this provocative behaviour that necessitated my office to call for Mr Mbeki and Mr Chissano to hear our profound concerns.
As a nation committed to peace and tranquillity, we also briefed the two former presidents of South Africa and Mozambique that we are greatly concerned by reports that our citizens by the side of the lake are being illegally arrested by the Tanzanian authorities. We want this to stop immediately.
Our position on this issue is very clear; the lake is ours, has been ours and will always belong to us in its entirety. That is why we are calm about the whole issue and that is why we are willing to engage with all legal and constitutional processes to legitimise our position and that is why we are asking our brothers and sisters in Tanzania to desist from making provocative claims and statements while the processes employed to handle this matter are underway.
May God bless you all!
And may God bless the land of Malawi.
Dr Joyce Banda
President
Republic of Malawi

 

[Bill]

Kwenye suala la mipaka ya nchi mambo ya CCM au CDM hayahusiki, athari yoyote ya masuala kama haya haichagui uanachama, ni masuala ya nchi. Kwa mfano kagame alivyosema atamhit Kikwete hakumaanisha Kikwete kama mwenyekiti wa CCM (ila kama Rais wa TZ). Ndio maana inasemekana hata mauaji ya JWTZ huko Darful ni mojawapo ya kumhit Kikwete au TZ ktk mazingira ambayo Kagame hatafikiriwa kabisa!

Nakubaliana na wewe kwenye hilo suala la usalama wa nchi lutokuchukuliwa kisiasa. Lakini hebu tujiulize tumefikaje fikaje kwenye hiyo migogoro.

Suala la Askari wetu kufa kule Darfur halina uhusiano wowote na Kagame. Watakuwa walizidiwa mbinu za kivita, kwani walizingirwa.

 

[Bill]

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda

on Sunday

My fellow Malawians
I can confirm that our government invited former presidents of Mozambique and South Africa, His Excellences Mr Joaquim Chissano and Mr Thabo Mbeki over the issue of Lake Malawi border dispute with Tanzania.
The reason for this meeting was to express our gravest concerns that Tanzania is now making unsubstantiated statements shifting the border line to be in the middle of the lake and reports that Tanzania is considering to deploy boats in Lake Malawi while the outcome of the mediation process that both countries are taking part has not been determined.
We consider such position by our Tanzanian brothers and sisters as lack of sincerity on their part hence we found it necessary as a matter of urgency to brief and update Presidents Thabo Mbeki and Joaquim Chissano who are part of the mediation team.
I also invited leaders of opposition parties to be part of this process as Malawi belongs to us all and I am very thankful for their valuable contributions especially Mr Joseph Kubwalo who was our Malawi's High Commissioner to the Republic of Tanzania in 1995 as he provided very important information regarding our lake during this meeting.
We understand that former president of Malawi Mr Bakili Muluzi and former President of Tanzania Mr Nkapa made an agreement in 1995 for the construction of a railway line between Mbamba Bay and Ntwala for Malawi to be able to transport its good directly from the sea.
Since then, it has been a procedure and protocol for Tanzania asking for permission through our Malawi High Commission's office in Tanzania to access our waters and such permission was usually granted. Now, we are wondering when was this protocol changed for Tanzania to consider deploying boats in our waters without our permission and to start making unsubstantiated border claims on our lake.
It is this provocative behaviour that necessitated my office to call for Mr Mbeki and Mr Chissano to hear our profound concerns.
As a nation committed to peace and tranquillity, we also briefed the two former presidents of South Africa and Mozambique that we are greatly concerned by reports that our citizens by the side of the lake are being illegally arrested by the Tanzanian authorities. We want this to stop immediately.
Our position on this issue is very clear; the lake is ours, has been ours and will always belong to us in its entirety. That is why we are calm about the whole issue and that is why we are willing to engage with all legal and constitutional processes to legitimise our position and that is why we are asking our brothers and sisters in Tanzania to desist from making provocative claims and statements while the processes employed to handle this matter are underway.
May God bless you all!
And may God bless the land of Malawi.
Dr Joyce Banda
President
Republic of Malawi

Huyu mama mpumbav, mbona kama ni meli zipo toka siku nyingi

 

[kinauche]

Rais Joyce Banda wa Malawi hataki cho chote pungufu ya kutaka kumiliki ziwa lote la Nyasa kama alivyowaeleza Marais wa zamani wa Msumbiji na Afrika ya Kusini Bw. Chisano na Bw. Tabu Mbeki leo tarehe 15/07/2013!

Hivi kwa nini sisi Tanzania tuendelee kupoteza rasilimali zetu kujadili jambo ambalo ni wazi kabisa kwamba kamwe hatuwezi kukubali kupoteza haki yetu ya kumiliki nusu ya ziwa hilo!

Kama Malawi wana ndoto za kumiliki ziwa lote la Nyasa basi wasubili hadi kiama kama ambavyo wamevumilia kwa miaka 50 sasa tangu tupate uhuru!

Nashauri ni wakati muafaka sasa Tanzania kujitoa katika mazungumzo hayo yasiyo na tija! It is just a wastage of resources and our precious time to discuss something which will never come to the end!

Hivi huyu mama ameolewa?

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[Maundumula]

Mama Malawi bana

 

[kinauche]

Joyce Banda ni mpuuzi kama walivyo wapuuzi wengine,

Tayari Mungu kamjaalia ana maziwa mawili, je la tatu ataliweka wapi?

Kiswahili naona kinakupiga chenga. Alichonaco ni matiti. Sasa anatakaa ziwa.

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[idawa]

Dawa ni kujitoa kwenye mazungumzo, hapa ni kwenda kimyakimya. akileta za kuleta achezee kichapo.!!

 

[Mgirik]

Poor Tanzania hahahaaaaaa bado Rwanda inawasubiri...CCM nambari1

yaan hakuna watu wapumbavu na wajinga na ubongo wako kama wa wanguruwe kama ww bwana kwenye migogoro ya mipaka ya nchi bado unaleta uccm na uchadema!!? Hv unafkir hyo raslimali ikichukuliwa watakao athirika ni ccm? Hakika ww hauna ubongo kabisa kichwa chako kimejaa mifupa tu! Unaendeshwa kama robot. F***ker

 

[Doppelganger]

Yule mama haitaji mazungumzo ya kuhusu ziwa Nyasa,anahitaji wa kumbonyeza maziwa yake kwa kifua...

Waziri wetu yuko veeery slow...kama vipi "apige" tu kwa manufaa ya nchi!!!!

 

[Komeo]

Aje sasa alichukue hilo Ziwa kwa ng'ambo ya huku. Ni kumchapa kimya kimya kila anayeingia kwetu. Tunakosea sana kumpigia mayowe.

 

[Kamanda Kazi]

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda

on Sunday

My fellow Malawians
I can confirm that our government invited former presidents of Mozambique and South Africa, His Excellences Mr Joaquim Chissano and Mr Thabo Mbeki over the issue of Lake Malawi border dispute with Tanzania.
The reason for this meeting was to express our gravest concerns that Tanzania is now making unsubstantiated statements shifting the border line to be in the middle of the lake and reports that Tanzania is considering to deploy boats in Lake Malawi while the outcome of the mediation process that both countries are taking part has not been determined.
We consider such position by our Tanzanian brothers and sisters as lack of sincerity on their part hence we found it necessary as a matter of urgency to brief and update Presidents Thabo Mbeki and Joaquim Chissano who are part of the mediation team.
I also invited leaders of opposition parties to be part of this process as Malawi belongs to us all and I am very thankful for their valuable contributions especially Mr Joseph Kubwalo who was our Malawi’s High Commissioner to the Republic of Tanzania in 1995 as he provided very important information regarding our lake during this meeting.
We understand that former president of Malawi Mr Bakili Muluzi and former President of Tanzania Mr Nkapa made an agreement in 1995 for the construction of a railway line between Mbamba Bay and Ntwala for Malawi to be able to transport its good directly from the sea.
Since then, it has been a procedure and protocol for Tanzania asking for permission through our Malawi High Commission's office in Tanzania to access our waters and such permission was usually granted. Now, we are wondering when was this protocol changed for Tanzania to consider deploying boats in our waters without our permission and to start making unsubstantiated border claims on our lake.
It is this provocative behaviour that necessitated my office to call for Mr Mbeki and Mr Chissano to hear our profound concerns.
As a nation committed to peace and tranquillity, we also briefed the two former presidents of South Africa and Mozambique that we are greatly concerned by reports that our citizens by the side of the lake are being illegally arrested by the Tanzanian authorities. We want this to stop immediately.
Our position on this issue is very clear; the lake is ours, has been ours and will always belong to us in its entirety. That is why we are calm about the whole issue and that is why we are willing to engage with all legal and constitutional processes to legitimise our position and that is why we are asking our brothers and sisters in Tanzania to desist from making provocative claims and statements while the processes employed to handle this matter are underway.
May God bless you all!
And may God bless the land of Malawi.
Dr Joyce Banda
President
Republic of Malawi

Duuu....ina maana hata ex-Presidaa Nkapa alikuwa hajui mpaka wetu katika ziwa Nyasa mpaka akaomba kibali cha ku-access maji ya ziwa hilo! Wonders will never end!

 

[Time Bandit]

Vile mpaka wa Zanzibar na Tangayika unaeleweka vizuri? Siamini Chumbe ndio mwisho wa mamlaka ya watu wa Zanzibar.

Ulitaka mpaka uje mpaka Dar?

 

[Sibonike]

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda

on Sunday

My fellow Malawians
I can confirm that our government invited former presidents of Mozambique and South Africa, His Excellences Mr Joaquim Chissano and Mr Thabo Mbeki over the issue of Lake Malawi border dispute with Tanzania.
The reason for this meeting was to express our gravest concerns that Tanzania is now making unsubstantiated statements shifting the border line to be in the middle of the lake and reports that Tanzania is considering to deploy boats in Lake Malawi while the outcome of the mediation process that both countries are taking part has not been determined.
We consider such position by our Tanzanian brothers and sisters as lack of sincerity on their part hence we found it necessary as a matter of urgency to brief and update Presidents Thabo Mbeki and Joaquim Chissano who are part of the mediation team.
I also invited leaders of opposition parties to be part of this process as Malawi belongs to us all and I am very thankful for their valuable contributions especially Mr Joseph Kubwalo who was our Malawi’s High Commissioner to the Republic of Tanzania in 1995 as he provided very important information regarding our lake during this meeting.
We understand that former president of Malawi Mr Bakili Muluzi and former President of Tanzania Mr Nkapa made an agreement in 1995 for the construction of a railway line between Mbamba Bay and Ntwala for Malawi to be able to transport its good directly from the sea.
Since then, it has been a procedure and protocol for Tanzania asking for permission through our Malawi High Commission's office in Tanzania to access our waters and such permission was usually granted. Now, we are wondering when was this protocol changed for Tanzania to consider deploying boats in our waters without our permission and to start making unsubstantiated border claims on our lake.
It is this provocative behaviour that necessitated my office to call for Mr Mbeki and Mr Chissano to hear our profound concerns.
As a nation committed to peace and tranquillity, we also briefed the two former presidents of South Africa and Mozambique that we are greatly concerned by reports that our citizens by the side of the lake are being illegally arrested by the Tanzanian authorities. We want this to stop immediately.
Our position on this issue is very clear; the lake is ours, has been ours and will always belong to us in its entirety. That is why we are calm about the whole issue and that is why we are willing to engage with all legal and constitutional processes to legitimise our position and that is why we are asking our brothers and sisters in Tanzania to desist from making provocative claims and statements while the processes employed to handle this matter are underway.
May God bless you all!
And may God bless the land of Malawi.
Dr Joyce Banda
President
Republic of Malawi

Dr Joyce Banda

You can continue with your day dreaming. Just as you agree that the boundary between Malawi and Mozambique is in the middle of the Lake, the same applies to the boundary between Tanzania and Malawi. Lake Nyasa main inlets (Songwe and Lufilyo) as you are aware, are all from Tanzania. We can simply decide to divert those rivers and the shores of Lake Nyasa will eventually change. Ok, Songwe is at least a common boundary, but Lufilyo is entirely in Tanzania. We can simply start some irrigation schemes to draw water from there. That is one of the options we have.
Regardless of what we have both inherited from the colonial governments, common sense should always prevail. The International convection is clear about water resources sharing between two neighboring countries. Even the crazy Kamuzu tried to intimidate Tanzania.