TANZANIA - A Nation without Heroes (by Mohamed Said)

[gombesugu]

Who are your heroes?, the al shabaab and their friends?( including you!) Shame on you Bloodthirsty terrorists!

Now out of the remain dignity(if any!?)left in you,you should refrain from commenting these reactionaries,irresponsible,insanely and idiotic statements!

Ahsanta.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Hivi kabla yakuja hao wageni Afrika tulikua tunaabudu nini?Fanya utafiti usukumani,unyanyembe,mtwa,ha,etc.u cant change the history but u can shape the future.

Soma, fata link: In The Name Of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

 

[gombesugu]

• When men labor they keep out of mischief because an idle mind is the devil's workshop.
• When one is busy one tends to stay out of trouble for an idle mind is satan's playground.

"Idleness is the only refuge of weak minds, and the holiday of fools. Idleness is the parent of mischief and mischief is merely an attempt to escape from the dreary vaccuuum of idleness. One pound of idleness weighs twenty ounces", George Borrow.

"When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind as to subscribe his professional belief to things even he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime", Thomas Paine.

One reminder;STOP wasting your time proving to worthless quotes about our History and factual accomplishments.

It's no turning back now and more importantly we own them...no explanation of whatsoever.

We are sick and tired of being lied to. The TRUTH has set many of us free.

What Nyerere's history teaches us isn't even close to what really happened!

None of the so called Historians/Scholars in our country ever came closer or been able to arrive at this description as Brother Mohammed Said.

Mohammed Said work/s is essential and is here to stay!

Ahsanta.

 

[gombesugu]

allah wenu sio mstaarabu!

Speak only when your words are more beautiful than silence!

 

[Son of Alaska]

kwenye thread kama hizi,uta notice, soon to be sucide bombers wanavyoivamia thread like a pack of hyaena"s ready for the kill

 

[gombesugu]

Huchoki tu kumnanga Mwalimu Nyerere kila upumuapo?

Nikisema nitulie nianze kuchambua kila sentensi ya ngano zako hizi zote utakuta zimejaa hisia tu bila ukweli halisi,

Hakuna unachoweza kukithibitisha hapa hata kimoja juu ya madai yako yote,

Mada imejaa maneno mfano: "inasemekana" "iliaminika" "kulikuwa na taarifa" "ilisikika" nk

Endelea kupiga domo umri unakutupa,

Mafunzo ya wewe na Ilunga kwa vijana Wakitanzania sasa yanazaa matunda, tindikali na ugaidi wa westgate!

Upo kwenye nyuzi 265 kutiwa nguvuni

Wakati ukipata fundo la maji hebu funguka akili yako hapa chini,

UTAFITI: Dhana ya Mfumo Kristu Tanzania na Ukweli wake:

Na:


Yericko Nyerere:


Kwanza kwa tafsiri ya kawaida ya "mfumo kristu" ni "utaratibu unaotumika kuongoza/kutawala mahali/watu kwa misingi ya dini ya kikristu"

Nchini Tanzania kumekuwepo na madai kuwa Tanzania "ni ya mfumo kristu",

Madai haya ni mazito na yanahitaji majibu yakinifu kutoka serikalini kwakuwa yanagusa imani za watu, yana athiri uchumi wetu, yana athiri siasa za nchi yetu, yana athiri elimu yetu pia yana athiri ajira nchini, lakini serikali imekuwa kimya kwa mda mrefu sasa,

Kwa dhana hiyo hapa wanaosema Tanzania ni ya mfumo kristu inamaana kuwa sekta zote zinazosimamiwa na serikali ya Tanzania zipo chini ya Ukristu na hata serikali kuanzia Urais hadi mjumbe wa nyumba kumi nk!

Mwaka 2011 nilijipa kazi maalumu yakuusaka ukweli kuhusu madai hayo,

UTAFITI wangu ULIFANYIKA katika majiji ya Dar es Salaam, Mbeya, Mwanza na Zanzibar, hii ni kutokana na kuwa majiji haya ndio kitovu cha mambo yote na mwelekeo wa taifa letu, na ndiyo yenye wakazi wengi zaidi ambao ni zaidi ya 15% ya Watanzania wote!

Haikuwa kazi rahisi kupata nilichokihitaji hasa kila nilipojaribu kuomba ufafanuzi kwa walioimba na wanaoendelea kuimba wimbo huo wa "Mfumo Kristu" kukosa majibu mujarabu,

Nilipanga safu yangu ya kiutafiti katika makundi yafuatayo,

1) Siasa,
2) Elimu
3) Ajira
4) Uchumi

A. Katika anga la siasa hapa nilijikita kuangalia Watanzania wanaohudumu katika ngazi za kimaamuzi ya kisiasa tu kwa jiji la Dar, Mbeya, Mwanza, Arusha na Zanzibar

Jiji la Dar limekumbatia wanasiasa 521,556 ambao huendeshea shughuli zao za kisiasa Dar tu, niliowahoji imani zao za kiroho ni 360,001 kati ya hawa 270,823 ni waamini wa Uislamu na 89,100 ni waamini wa Ukristu huku 72 ni waamini wa imani zingine na 6 ni waamini wa Urasta fari.

Kundi la wanasiasa lililobaki nilitumia kigezo cha majina yao japo kina akisi kwa 98% tu ya ukweli wao!

Jiji la Mbeya lina wanasiasa 1360 ambao wanahudumu katika siasa ndani ya jiji hilo. niliowahoji kujua imani zao za kiroho ni 386 kati ya hawa 272 ni waamini wa Ukristu na 112 ni waamini wa Uislamu huku 2 ni waamini wa imani zingine na hakuna waamini wa Urasta fari.


Jiji la Mwanza lina wanasiasa 2682 wanaohudumu katika siasa ndani ya jiji hilo, niliowahoji kujua imani zao za kiroho ni 1230 kati ya hawa 324 ni waamini wa Uislamu na 696 ni waamini wa Ukristu huku watu 58 ni waamini wa imani zingine na hakuna waamini wa Urasta fari.

Zanzibar ina wanasiasa 682 wanaohudumu katika siasa ndani ya mamlaka hiyo, niliowahoji kujua imani zao za kiroho ni 123 kati yao 120 ni waamini wa Uislamu na 2 ni waamini wa Ukristu huku watu 1 ni waamini wa imani zingine na hakuna waamini wa Urasta fari.


B. ELIMU

Hapa kwenye sekta ya elimu kwakutumia takwimu za wizara ya Elimu, nilitumia majina ya wahitimu wa kidato cha nne mwaka 2011-2012 kutambua imani zao japo sio njia aminifu kwa asilimia mia.

Mkoa wa Dar mwaka 2011 walihitimu wanafunzi wa kidato cha nne 120,032, kati yao 111,231 ni Waislamu, na 8,801 ni Wakristu, hapa dini nyingine hazikuangaliwa!

Mkoa wa Mbeya mwaka 2011 walihitimu wanafunzi wa kidato cha nne 76,136, kati yao 25,621 ni Waislamu, na 50,515 ni Wakristu, hapa dini nyingine hazikuangaliwa!

Mkoa wa Mwanza mwaka 2011 walihitimu wanafunzi wa kidato cha nne 100,116, kati yao 23,522 ni Waislamu, na 76,594 ni Wakristu, hapa dini nyingine hazikuangaliwa

Zanzibar mwaka 2011 walihitimu wanafunzi wa kidato cha nne 89,139, kati yao 89,138 ni Waislamu, na 1 ni Wakristu, hapa dini nyingine hazikuangaliwa


C. AJIRA

Kwamjibu wa takwimu zilizopo Wizara ya Utumishi na ambazo mimi nimetzitumia kama rejea kuu ni kuwa,

Mwezi wa 7 mwaka 2012 Mkoa wa Dar es Salaam ulikuwa na wafanyakazi 876,981, kati yao 492,238 ni Waislamu, wakati 384,700 ni Wakristu na 43 ni wa dini nyinginezo!

Mwezi wa 7 mwaka 2012 Mkoa wa Mwanza ulikuwa na wafanyakazi 226,139, kati yao 114,023 ni Waislamu, wakati 112,116 ni Wakristu na 0 ni wa dini nyinginezo!

Mwezi wa 7 mwaka 2012 Mkoa wa Mbeya ulikuwa na wafanyakazi 199,226, kati yao 99,221 ni Wakrstu, wakati 100,005 ni Waislamu na 0 ni wa dini nyinginezo


Mwezi wa 7 mwaka 2012 Zanzibar ilikuwa na wafanyakazi 113,206, kati yao 113,001 ni Waislam, wakati 205 ni Waikristu na 0 ni wa dini nyinginezo


D. UCHUMI

Katika anga la uchumi nchini nilimulika zaidi idadi ya wafanyabiasha katika miji hiyo kwakutumia takwimu za TRA na BRELA

Mwezi wa kumi nambili Mwaka 2012 jiji la Dar es Salaam pekee lilikuwa na makampuni (Limited) 4737 kwamjibu wa Wakala wa Usajili wa Biashara na Leseni, kati ya hayo utafiti unaonyesha 3826 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na waamini wa Uislamu kwa 100%, wakati 911 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na Waamini wa Ukristu,

Eneo la Kariakoo ambako kunamkusanyiko mkubwa wa wafanyabiashara na biashara zao kulitoa picha stahiki za utafiti wangu,
Kariakoo na viunga vyake pekee nilitembelea maduka 489,125, kati ya hayo 312,568 yanamilikiwa na waamini wa Uislamu, na maduka 176,500 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na waamini wa Ukristu wakati maduka 57 wamiliki wake ni wa dini nyingine


Mwezi Januari Mwaka 2013 jiji la Mbeya lilikuwa na makampuni (limited) 197 kwamjibu wa Mamlaka ya Mapato Tanzania (TRA), kati ya hayo utafiti unaonyesha makampuni 102 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na waamini wa Uislamu, wakati makampuni 95 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na Waamini wa Ukristu.

Jiji la Mwanza lilikuwa na makampuni (limited) 204 kwamjibu wa Mamlaka ya Mapato Tanzania (TRA), kati ya hayo utafiti unaonyesha makampuni 102 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na waamini wa Uislamu, wakati makampuni 95 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na Waamini wa Ukristu.

Zanzibar ililikuwa na makampuni (limited) 81 kwamjibu wa Mamlaka ya Mapato Zanzibar, kati ya hayo utafiti unaonyesha makampuni 72 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na waamini wa Uislamu, wakati makampuni 9 yalikuwa yanamilikiwa na Waamini wa Ukristu.

Msomaji unaweza kutumia mang'amuzi yako kujua hoja ya wenye hoja!

Ndugu zangu Watanzania, tuendeshe siasa za kistaarabu kuilinda nchi yetu iliyojengwa kwa jasho na damu, dhana za kufikirika na zenye agenda mtambuka na wakwale zitalipeleka taifa letu pabaya!

That's the dumbest,most ignorant statement I've seen/heard in a few days!

How dare you be in a position to accuse Sheikh Mohammed Said of the very things that you are standing unbeknownst and gullible to the reality of the very things that has shape you during your entire life!?

As expected too,your argument/"research" is logically invalid on so many levels.

Consequently,I can't take your argument seriously as I'm pretty sure that you don't have credibility nor posses the intelllect which is paramount when dealing with that kind of work/research...I know you wouldn't be able even to substantiate,establish or even defend your own "facts"/methodology,statistics,resources etc.

Well,I respect your last statement though...but to suggest that Sheikh Mohammed Said is here to downplay Nyerere's role/legacy or extinguish him out of history,is out of authenticity!

Sheikh Mohammed Said is a reputable and well known Historian,Scholar,Author,Thinker and his descriptions/writtings are based upon historical records,manuscripts,thorough researches coupled with his family background and historical connection/s moulded with personal reflections.

So who the fact are you Mr!?...just some wannabe huh!?

I'm sorry if you don't like my honest but to be fair I don't like your primitive attitude and I hate your LIES!!

Ahsanta.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Mapambano ya uhuru yalianza toka zamani kabla hata ya Wajerumani kutawala tanganyika ila mleta uzi hilo halimo.Wapo wapigania uhuru ambao hawakua na dini hizi za kuletwa wao wapo kimya.Usukumani,Uchagani,Unyanyembe, kulikua na movement nyingi na katika historia ya Tanyangika kama wamesaulika kabisa.

Kama ni kuandikwa upya historia ya Uhuru wa Tanganyika chimbuko lianzie enzi ya utawala wa waarabu,Wajerumani mpaka waingereza na makundi yote ya Tanganyika yawepo bila kujali imani zao.

Unaonaje ukianza kuwataja badala ya kuja na hoja ya maneno matupu? Mohamed Said, kaweka majina na references mbali mbali tofauti. Nannaona umeshindwa hata kuuliza swali basi?

Tunasubiri utuletee historia ya hao unaowasema japo mistari michache tu.

 

[gombesugu]

thats against the Bible, siyo kama dini yenu ya kigaidi inayofikiri mbingu ni danguro! Eti ukiua unafanya ngono na warembo mbinguni!! Dah

So you think you have a merciful god who blesses you huh!?

 

[Setuba Noel]

Wanaukumbi,
Nimeweka hapa (attach) mada niliyowasilisha Nairobi kwenye ''Seminar on The Fiftieth Anniversary of the African Independences Marginalized, Forgotten, and Revived Political Actors'' iliyoandaliwa na IFRA French Institute for Research in Africa na BIEA British Institute in East Africa kuanzia tarehe 23rd and 24th September 2013.

I know this man for his expertise in fabricating and recreating history based on semi-truths and heresies. Hate author of all time! Why are you trying to force your perspective of the definition of a hero on everybody else? In my book, the guys you mentioned in your article are NOT heroes. Heroes do not cry for recognition, they EARN it. Objectively, these guys did not EARN the hero status. Get this fact right and let it sink deep in your psyche: Those guys are not heroes, they have nothing to show for a "hero" status. Basi. Nimechoka na hadithi zako.

 

[gombesugu]

Histohisia inapogeuzwa historia basi historia inapoteza maana yake!!! Maandishi ya Mohammed Said yamejaa histohisia zaidi kuliko historia!

Most of the people will judge you by what they know about you. In our History,the least we know the least we trust.

Most of the teachings/materials are directed to Nyerere...One person only is chosen and representing the whole Nation and History!?

In politics,like history or entertainment there's the official story and the TRUTH.

Nyerere a.k.a Baba Wa Taifa wanted everyone to take in the official story with no questions asked!

Ahsanta.

 

[gombesugu]

I know this man for his expertise in fabricating and recreating history based on semi-truths and heresies. Hate author of all time! Why are you trying to force your perspective of the definition of a hero on everybody else? In my book, the guys you mentioned in your article are NOT heroes. Heroes do not cry for recognition, they EARN it. Objectively, these guys did not EARN the hero status. Get this fact right and let it sink deep in your psyche: Those guys are not heroes, they have nothing to show for a "hero" status. Basi. Nimechoka na hadithi zako.

That awkward moment when someone asks you "what's wrong!?"...when they are the problem/s!

Well, Sheikh Mohammed Said is doing a great job by adressing the imbalance on historical facts and systematic efforts to suppress the TRUTH.

You may have difference of informed opinions but you can't deny the fact that he always deliver great historical masterpieces!

Ahsanta.

 

[s.crony]

Most of the people will judge you by what they know about you. In our History,the least we know the least we trust.

Most of the teachings/materials are directed to Nyerere...One person only is chosen and representing the whole Nation and History!?

In politics,like history or entertainment there's the official story and the TRUTH.

Nyerere a.k.a Baba Wa Taifa wanted everyone to take in the official story with no questions asked!

Ahsanta.

Gombe...history is written by people in all its aspects...it picks a few....Nyerere is simply a symbol...a leader nevertheless their were many thousands behind him.So the Truth as you call it is he was the leader that the nation rallied behind....he played his part,he is gone..lest you and me judge him?Who will judge us?Sheikh Mohamed Said in my outmost respect for you and your ideologies please give "Baba wa taifa a rest"

 

[gombesugu]

Gombe...history is written by people in all its aspects...it picks a few....Nyerere is simply a symbol...a leader nevertheless their were many thousands behind him.So the Truth as you call it is he was the leader that the nation rallied behind....he played his part,he is gone..lest you and me judge him?Who will judge us?Sheikh Mohamed Said in my outmost respect for you and your ideologies please give "Baba wa taifa a rest"

I like your statement a bit...very polite and sincerely.

Big Respect Sir!

Ahsanta.

 

[gombesugu]

Mohamed Said, jibu maswali basi! Uhuru umepiganiwa Dar tu? Kamkoa kadogo kuliko yote Tanganyika?

Wewe ndo unatakiwa kujibu kwa kuonyesha hoja zako,minyambulisho ya kitaaluma iso shaka na ushuhuda yakinifu ili kujibu hayo maandiko ya Sheikh Mohammed Said.

Takribani kwenye maandiko yake yoote hutaja watu wa maeneo/mikoa mbalimbali na watu wa dini/itikadi tafauti hapoTanganyika, Zanzibar na baadhi ya nchi jirani zetu...sasa inastaajabisha ikiwa wewe/nyinyi hamuoni yayo!?

Na kama leo unailetea dharau hiyo D'Salaam/Mzizima,sasa ni kipi kinachokufanzeni mjazane hapo na msitulie huko mikoani/vijijini kwenu kwenye baraka nyingi na mlee Wazee wenu!?

Jitahidi utumie kauli njema.

Ahsanta.

 

[Setuba Noel]

That awkward moment when someone asks you "what's wrong!?"...when they are the problem/s!

Well, Sheikh Mohammed Said is doing a great job by adressing the imbalance on historical facts and systematic efforts to suppress the TRUTH.

You may have difference of informed opinions but you can't deny the fact that he always deliver great historical masterpieces!

Ahsanta.

Masterpieces? From heresies and fabrications? Give me a break! So you support his distorted point of view that Nyerere whom we consider as a hero in Tanzania is actually not a hero simply because he was not a Muslim? That Tanganyika's independence was primarily a result of Muslim's struggle, not Tanganyikans' struggle? You believe in systematic exclusion from the heroes' list anybody who is not muslim? This is the most dangerously biased, discriminatory and hateful thinking I've ever had the bad luck to witness!

 

[gombesugu]

Naona wahamiaji haramu wa kimanyema mnapongezana.

Huyu gaidi mohamed saidi hawezi kutambuliwa kama mwanahistoria labda hapo gerezani mtaa wa kipata ndio mnamuona wa maana lakini katika nchi hii hawezi kuitwa mwanahistoria hata siku moja!

Often we come to understand our ignorance,but if we are content with that understanding,then we are guilty of that ignorance.

We must push past that ignorance ourselves...progressive is the very best we should be!

Ahsanta.

 

[gombesugu]

Masterpieces? From heresies and fabrications? Give me a break! So you support his distorted point of view that Nyerere whom we consider as a hero in Tanzania is actually not a hero simply because he was not a Muslim? That Tanganyika's independence was primarily a result of Muslim's struggle, not Tanganyikans' struggle? You believe in systematic exclusion from the heroes' list anybody who is not muslim? This is the most dangerously biased, discriminatory and hateful thinking I've ever had the bad luck to witness!

I'm afraid Sir, you are taking Sheikh Mohammed Said's work/writtings out of context and not only this may cause confusion to yourself but others too.

Also you sound bit upset...no need to!

I would rather know what you think of as a difference of opinion than avoid you because of a difference of opinion.

Do us a favour please by providing the facts,clarifications and establish all your sources to counter this paper as presented here by Sheikh Mohammed Said ok!?...end of story.

Otherwise,try to relax and just be an observer/reader like many others!

Ahsanta.

 

[gombesugu]

Mohammed Said is a looser and he'll never secure,labda akaanzishe nchi yake,sijui Jk Nyerere alimwibia mke..

Your statement has no relevance on this thread,don't you think so!?

 

[Ritz]

That's the dumbest,most ignorant statement I've seen/heard in a few days!

How dare you be in a position to accuse Sheikh Mohammed Said of the very things that you are standing unbeknownst and gullible to the reality of the very things that has shape you during your entire life!?

As expected too,your argument/"research" is logically invalid on so many levels.

Consequently,I can't take your argument seriously as I'm pretty sure that you don't have credibility nor posses the intelllect which is paramount when dealing with that kind of work/research...I know you wouldn't be able even to substantiate,establish or even defend your own "facts"/methodology,statistics,resources etc.

Well,I respect your last statement though...but to suggest that Sheikh Mohammed Said is here to downplay Nyerere's role/legacy or extinguish him out of history,is out of authenticity!

Sheikh Mohammed Said is a reputable and well known Historian,Scholar,Author,Thinker and his descriptions/writtings are based upon historical records,manuscripts,thorough researches coupled with his family background and historical connection/s moulded with personal reflections.

So who the fact are you Mr!?...just some wannabe huh!?

I'm sorry if you don't like my honest but to be fair I don't like your primitive attitude and I hate your LIES!!

Ahsanta.

Al Habib, gombesugu,

Asaalam Aleikum, habari za masiku ndugu yangu.

Nakusoma na miwani ya 3D huku nakula zangu faluda.

 

[Ritz]

Unaonaje ukianza kuwataja badala ya kuja na hoja ya maneno matupu? Mohamed Said, kaweka majina na references mbali mbali tofauti. Nannaona umeshindwa hata kuuliza swali basi?

Tunasubiri utuletee historia ya hao unaowasema japo mistari michache tu.

Hawa hawana hoja zaidi ya viroja.