Mwafrika bila mzungu si chochote

[mdukuzi]

timu ya b afanabafana imechukua kombe la africa mwaka 1996,,miaka miwili baada ya mandela kuwa rais,mandela alitoka gerezani 1990,najaribu kuweka rekodi zako sawa.

mandela kawa rais from 1994-1999 timu bado ilikuwa na vichembe chembe vya uzungu ,wangoni na wazuru walipotamalaki unajua kilichojili

 

[pererge]

Afrika:

Pahali ambapo bado kuna watu wanategemea kupata maisha bora (utajiri) kwa njia ya uchawi, na uchawi wenyewe ukiwa unahusisha matumizi ya viungo vya binadamu wengine (mf. Albino)

Tazama jinsi mabango ya waganga wa kienyeji yalivyoshamiri kwenye nguzo za umeme yakinadi dawa za kupata utajiri.!!

 

[El chollo]

I hate whites...

they love u

 

[Marire]

wazungu oyeee

 

[NgumiJiwe]

Na ndio hapo swala la Akili linapokuja sasa! Ni kwanini kwetu tu? Ni kwanini tunashindwa kuona kwamba tunaibiwa? Ni kwa nini Obama hajaitisha Ikulu ya Marekani Mkutano wa Maraisi wote wa Asia kwa mpigo kama alivyofanya kwetu badala yake Obama ndio anaondoka kwenda Asia kuhudhuria mkutano wa ASEAN (umoja wa Kiuchumi wa Asia)

Nimekwambia kwamba Umaskini unaendana moja kwa moja na uwezo wako wa kutatua Matatizo, kama wewe una tatizo hilo hilo kila siku na unashindwa kulitatua basi uwezo wako wa kiakili ni Mdogo ni rahisi kihivyo tu!
Kama wewe kila siku unashinda njaa kwa ajili ya ukame kwa Miaka nenda rudi unashindwa kufikiria kwamba siku Mvua nyingi ikinyesha basi wacha nivune Maji mengi yakutosha ili wakati wa ukame niweze kuyatumia na Matokeo yake kupata chakula cha kutosha basi una uwezo mdogo wa kiakili!

Hakuna Sehemu nyingine Dunia hii ambapo Nchi ina kila aina ya Rasirimali kuanzia Maji(Maziwa makuu 3), Mito mikubwa isiyo kauka, Bahari km² >1400, Madini, Milima na Mabonde lkn bado unasafiri na kutumia Mabilioni ya fedha kwenda kumuomba Binadamu mwenzako aje akusaidie wakati yeye ni Binadamu kama wewe, ISIPOKUWA kwetu Afrika TU!
Niambie Ni Nchi Raisi anaondoka kwenda kuomba msaada wa Binadamu mwenzake aje amsaidie kulima na kumzalishia Chakula? Halafu utaniambia huyo Mtu ana uwezo wa kutatua Matatizo?

Mimi tangu nasoma shule ya Msingi nimekaa Chini kwa sababu hakuna Madawati lkn tumezungukwa na Miti na Mapori Tabora nzima 3/4 ni Mapori yenye Miti na leo hii bado hiyo Shule Watoto wanakaa chini sasa utasema una uwezo wa kutatua Matatizo?
nenda W.Elimu utakuta Malnd cruiser ya milioni 200 yamepaki zaidi ya ishirini lkn watoto hawasomi, kwa kuwa hamna Vitabu,Madawati, Wana njaa... sasa utasema tuna uwezo wa kutatua Matatizo?

Hawakuona kama ni tatizo kwa kuwa hawakuwa na namna nyingine lkn haimaanishi kwamba ilikuwa ni njia bora ya kuishi kama ingekuwa hivyo leo hii tusingekuwa tunatumia fedha nyingi kujenga nyumba Imara tungebaki huko kwenye nyasi!

Unaongelea mambo ya Misri, hayo mimi sijui, siwezi kuanza kujadili mambo yaliyotokea miaka 4000 iliyopita kabla ya Yesu kuzaliwa, mimi naishi leo na ninaona mambo jinsi yanavyokwenda kwamba tatizo letu kubwa ni uwezo mdogo wa kutatua matatizo, ni hivyo tu!
Isitoshe hata kuhusu Misri yenyewe kama wewe ni Mtz na umezaliwa TZ ni Mzungu ndiye aliyekufundisha hata kulikuwa na mafarao, kama unataka kupinga pinga tu, lkn ndio UKWELI huo, mimi bibi yangu kijijini nikimuuliza Mambo ya farao wala hajui achilia mbali hata kujua kama kuna Nchi inaitwa Misri!

Tunarudi palepale Uwezo mdogo wa kiakili ndio Adui yetu Mkubwa, angalia hii inayokitwa Katiba Mpya tumetumia mabilioni ya fedha kukarabati hili linaloitwa Bunge la Katiba, lkn mpaka leo hii hakuna jipya na bado watu wanendela kulipana fedha bila ya kazi,sasa kama walijua hawataki Katiba ni kwanini hawakupeleka hizo fedha kujenga Shule? Kwa nini hakuna Mtu aliliona Hili? Hapo ni Akili tu ndugu, kama umesoma Hisabati ndio utaelewa vizuri kuna watu wanakaa siku nzima kujaribu kukokotoa swali moja la hesabu mwingine ukimpa swali hilo hilo anatumia dakika 2 anakupa jibu, hivyo huyu wa dakika 2 ana uwezo mkubwa wa kufikiri na kutatua tatizo, Ni rahisi kihivyo tu!

Ingekua akili za Darasani zinasaidia sana kuwa na maarifa na ugunduzi nadhani tungeanza kuona dalili za kusonga mbele kiteknolojia.
Darasani hawafindishwi kugundua bali namna ya kutumia vile vilivyogunduliwa.Ndio Afrika tuna madaktari wengi waliojifunza namna ya kutibu na kutumia madawa yaliyogunduliwa na wazungu kwa kutumia vitabu vya wazungu lakini hawana jawabu la magonjwa yanayoibuka kwenye bara la Afrika kila kukicha mpaka tena wazungu waje watusaidie japo darasani waafrika ni wazuri kwa kujifunza na kukariri kama ambavyo mbwa anvyofundishwa namna ya kutafuta kitu na mbinu nyingine lakini hana maarifa ya kuuliza kwa nini hivi naisiwe vile.

Waafrika na wazungu ni viumbe vinavyofanana kama MCHWA na SIAFU lakini sio kitu kimoja.

Mwenyezi Mungu kwa bahati mbaya akaamua kuondoa kila kitu kilicholetwa Afrika au kufundishwa na mzungu kwa Waafrika tangu enzi hizo mpaka leo,Ni uhakika bado tungekua tunaishi mapangoni. Hata kiberiti tutakua hatuna .Ukumbuke hata Farasi ,ngamia na punda hatukua tunavitumia kwa ajili ya usafiri.

Hebu angalia kichekesho cha Viongozi na Wasomi wa kiafrika: Wakati mzungu alipokua anahitaji binadamu kwa maana ya watumwa kwa ajili ya kuzalisha mali ili watu wao huko Ulaya waishi maisha mazuri na rahisi ,viongozi wetu wa kiafrika kwa maana ya machifu walikimbilia kuwauza watu wao ili wapate nguo,shanga kwa ajili ya wake zao wengi na bunduki .Hawakusimama kutetea uhai na heshima ya watu wao .

Wasomi wa Kiafrika ambao wengi ni viongozi nao wakaja na kichekesho tena zaidi ;Mzungu aliposema anataka rasilimali kwa ajili ya watu wake kule ulaya na kwingineko ili tu aendelee kuishi maisha mazuri zaidi na rahisi zaidi, viongozi wasomi wa kiafrika walikimbilia kusaini mikataba ya kuwapa rasilimali zote na kutumia bunduki ya mzungu kuwaua waafrika wale wanaojitahidi kupingana nao na kudai rasilimali ni za kwao. Wasomi wakasimama kutetea maslahi na teknolojia ya mzungu na kufurahia ajira ya mzungu.Uhai wa mwafrika ukaonekana si chochote mbele ya teknolojia ya mzungu na maisha yao ya anasa.
Sasa tujiulize swali ,Je,elimu ya darasani anayopata huyu kiumbe anayeitwa mwafrika ni tishio kwa viumbe wenzake anaofanana nao katika ulimwengu huu wa sayansi,teknolojia na maarifa mengi?

Nimezipenda hoja zenu wakuu.Ukweli waafrika tuna safari ndefu sana,ndiyo maana inafikia hata ku question uwezo wetu wa kiakili.Haiingii akilini watu kuchezea pesa kwa matumizi ya anasa huku tukiwa na matatizo mengi kama nchi.Shule hazina madawati,vitabu;hospitali hazina dawa,vifaa;miundombinu ya hovyo,hatuna maji,umeme wa uhakika..shida nyingi,lakini utashangaa mabilioni yanatumika kwenye sherehe sijui uhuru/muungano,kukarabati bunge sijui la katiba,kulipana posho za ajabu ajabu,kununua ma V8,zingine zinafichwa kwenye mabenki nje huko..Wanaojua dunia inavyokwenda wakisema;wanapingwa,wanazomewa,wanaitwa kila majina yakuwafanya waonekane wahovyo/si wazalendo,hawapewi nafasi ili watutoe,tena kuna uwezekano hata wa kupotezwa.aise inakera sana

 

[AZUSA STREET]

Mwongo mkubwa wee, wanawake wa kizungu wanaopenda weusi ni wale wa ''grade'' ya chini kabisa kabisa wanaokataliwa na wazungu. Kuna wanawake wazuri wa kizungu wachache sana wanaopenda weusi.

na we ni mwanamke wa kizungu nini? mbona umeongea kwa hisia sana. ulaya au america gani wewe umeenda ukakuta wanawake wa kizungu wanachagua mwanaume wa kiafrica? labda kama uliishi urusi au ujerumani sawa, ila kwingine kote asikwambie mtu hata wakisema hawakupendi wanaongea usoni moyoni wanalo jibu wenyewe.

 

[mrangi]

wakati tanzania wanafanya mchakato wa katiba serikali waliomba msaada wa hela kutoka norway.....kila kitu ni kuomba omba tu

 

[mdukuzi]

wakati tanzania wanafanya mchakato wa katiba serikali waliomba msaada wa hela kutoka norway.....kila kitu ni kuomba omba tu

obama alipokuja dar FBI walikagua mpaka vyoo vya ikulu na mbwa wao hapo tuna akili kweli

 

[ridculouz]

obama alipokuja dar FBI walikagua mpaka vyoo vya ikulu na mbwa wao hapo tuna akili kweli

mhh hizi fixx kwani wewe unafanya kazi ikulu ??

 

[georgeallen]

1. Africa ya Kusini kabla ya Mandela kuwa huru ilikuwa na uchumi unaotisha na timu kali ( bafanabafana ),baada ya waafika kushika dola uchumi hauridhishi na timu imebaki jina.

2. Wachezaji wa soka toka Africa kama Yaya Toure,Drogba,Etoo nk utawajua ni wachezaji wakiwa ulaya wakija kuchezea timu zao za Afrika si lolote si chochote.

3. Zimbabwe kabla ya uhuru ilikuwa kama London mliofika Harare mtaona mitaa yake ilivyo sasa si lolote si chochote

4. Tanzania kiwanda cha bia na sigara vilitaka kufa baada ya wazungu kuvichukua vinaongoza kwa kulipa kodi

5. Reli zote za Tanzania ,(tazara mchina)majengo mazuri ya serikali kando ya bahari ya hindi including ikulu na Oysterbay ni kazi ya wazungu.

6. Chaguzi zote za kidemokrasia huwa zinapata bajeti toka kwa wazungu.

7. Wasomi wazuri wa Africa wengi wao waliwahi kwenda nje ya nchi kujiendeleza kielimu.

8. Karne ya kumi na tano Africa na Ulaya vilikuwa sana kiuchumi na kitechnolojia leo ni mbingu na ardhi

Hitimisho

Kwa vile katiba zetu zinaandaliwa na waafika wenyewe si lolote si chochote.

ndio maana rais wenu kila siku yuko angani kwenda kwa wazungu kuomba misaada

 

[mrangi]

vitambulisho vya tafa, mchakato wa katiba mpya tulipewa msaada wa kifedha kutoka kwa hao wazungu yaani sisi ni watu wa kuombaomba tu ni aibu sana

 

[Humble African]

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by Charles H.F. Davis III on April 30, 2010

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“I was in Harvard, but not of it, and realized all the irony of my singing Fair Harvard. I sang it because I liked the music, and not from any pride in the Pilgrims.”

– W.E.B. DuBois, 1968

I awoke this morning and from my inbox was a note from Cambridge [MA]; an epicenter of systemic pathological racial dissonance among its citizens, students, and faculty. In this note as introduced to comments made by a third-year student at Harvard Law School and her claims of White superiority as it relates to intelligence:

.. . . I just hate leaving things where I feel I misstated my position.

I absolutely do not rule out the possibility that African Americans are, on average, genetically predisposed to be less intelligent. I could also obviously be convinced that by controlling for the right variables, we would see that they are, in fact, as intelligent as white people under the same circumstances. The fact is, some things are genetic. African Americans tend to have darker skin. Irish people are more likely to have red hair. (Now on to the more controversial🙂 Women tend to perform less well in math due at least in part to prenatal levels of testosterone, which also account for variations in mathematics performance within genders. This suggests to me that some part of intelligence is genetic, just like identical twins raised apart tend to have very similar IQs and just like I think my babies will be geniuses and beautiful individuals whether I raise them or give them to an orphanage in Nigeria. I don’t think it is that controversial of an opinion to say I think it is at least possible that African Americans are less intelligent on a genetic level, and I didn’t mean to shy away from that opinion at dinner.

I also don’t think that there are no cultural differences or that cultural differences are not likely the most important sources of disparate test scores (statistically, the measurable ones like income do account for some raw differences). I would just like some scientific data to disprove the genetic position, and it is often hard given difficult to quantify cultural aspects. One example (courtesy of Randall Kennedy) is that some people, based on crime statistics, might think African Americans are genetically more likely to be violent, since income and other statistics cannot close the racial gap. In the slavery era, however, the stereotype was of a docile, childlike, African American, and they were, in fact, responsible for very little violence (which was why the handful of rebellions seriously shook white people up). Obviously group wide rates of violence could not fluctuate so dramatically in ten generations if the cause was genetic, and so although there are no quantifiable data currently available to “explain” away the racial discrepancy in violent crimes, it must be some nongenetic cultural shift. Of course, there are pro-genetic counterarguments, but if we assume we can control for all variables in the given time periods, the form of the argument is compelling.

In conclusion, I think it is bad science to disagree with a conclusion in your heart, and then try (unsuccessfully, so far at least) to find data that will confirm what you want to be true. Everyone wants someone to take 100 white infants and 100 African American ones and raise them in Disney utopia and prove once and for all that we are all equal on every dimension, or at least the really important ones like intelligence. I am merely not 100% convinced that this is the case.

Please don’t pull a Larry Summers on me, Stephanie

From this note, I was asked for my perspectives to share with him/her and the members of the Black Law Students Association of Harvard University.

In full disclosure, I am no more a leading authority on testing and assessment, education, or race and racism than are law students on jurisprudence. However, as a growing scholar on the issues of race as it relates to education and learning, I hope to provide some academic grounding for the claims and actions the Harvard BSLA may (and should) make moving forward.

Currently I am a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education engaged in critical race scholarship on issues related to race in education. As a disclaimer, let the following comments be reflective solely of myself and not at all an attempt to articulate the position of the University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education as an institution or collective of its students, faculty, and/or staff. None of what is said is to impress our community of young scholars and practitioners, but to impress upon them the necessity of continued work for disrupting racism in theory, practice, policy and research.

I recently presented my thesis critiquing concepts of neutrality of testing and assessment and its historical role in elevating White persons and White normative conceptions of intelligence. It is not an empirical study and thus should not be a hard reference moving forward but may illuminate more academic arguments to ‘Stephanie’s’ – and other dominant – claims. In addition, my colleagues and I are currently completing a book chapter for a text on Critical Race Theory and Education on the experiences of racial tension for White graduate students engaged in racial discourse. From these particular sources I derive my growing expertise as an emerging Critical Race Theorist.

As stated by the clinical psychology student previously in a separate correspondence, ‘Stephanie’s’ claim about the racial difference in performance as defined by quantitative measures is substantiated by existing research (Garcia & Pearson, 1994; Hernstein & Murray, 1994). Additional studies have also shown gaps in grade point averages (Reyes, Gillock, & Kobus, 1994), attendance (Lloyd, 1978; Roderick, 1992), and retention and attrition (Valez, 1989; Eide, 1999).

However, despite the data itself, I believe her impetus for suggesting this difference is genetic and natural is personifying the endemic nature of racism in U.S. society and our private elite institutions of higher learning. Lest we forget that Harvard, similar to Penn and the like elite private institutions, perpetuate the domination and superiority of white, well-off, middle-aged men. In many instances this system is self-perpetuating in its selection of students and faculty, more especially at the highest levels of scholarship (i.e. law, medicine, business, and doctoral admissions and tenured faculty of color). More specifically, her critique is one grounded in the racist traditions of early eugenicists and psychometricians who put forward the concept of intelligence according to a White middle class male standard (see also The Mismeasure of Man and The Big Test). This normative acceptance of intelligence has continuously reified racial separation in performance whereas persons without access to the social and cultural capital therein were systematically disenfranchised from the type(s) of knowledge being tested.

As a law student, more especially one attending a private elite institution such as Harvard, it assumed that superlative logic is required when constructing arguments. However, like many academicians using quantitative methods, her attribution of causality (i.e. race = low performance / intelligence) is off-base and inherently false. While statistically race is most certainly correlatedwith test performance, no causal relationship can be proven. Additionally and more to the point, racial inferiority though it has constantly been offered as a cause for performance difference has been disproved time and again. Most currently and abundantly, education research suggests – since we are quantifying outcomes and ‘Stephanie’ needs more data to believe she is wrong – the most salient predictors for academic performance at EVERY level is socio-economic status (SES) and parental education level. Furthermore, if it is to be racialized, let it be known that those most often rounding out the bottom of the distribution in these categories are extremely disproportionately African American and Latino. As a critical race theorist I offer the notion that systemic and institutional racism is in fact the cause for this disproportionality in SES and parental education gaps, thus contributing to an inability to access resources to and create value of traditional education, and thereby increasing the disparity in formalized testing and academic performance.

More than what I can offer in this column is literature in education, sociology, anthropology, and psychology further addressing the various biases of testing, schools, and educational processes – all of which are afflicted by the social phenomenon and force of race.

As for BLSA moving forward and being able to personally address issues of the like as they may persist in the future —

My research and growing scholarship is central to the work of the renowned Harvard Law School professor (now at NYU) Derrick Bell, the father of Critical Legal Studies (CLS), the foundation of Critical Race Theory (CRT). While I doubt this is the case, if no class is offered at Harvard Law School or the Harvard Graduate School of Education on CLS or CRT, I recommend that students demand one. That which we have not been given, and need, we MUST demand and hold those in positions to deliver it accountable.

If nothing less, I suggest hosting a critical race symposium with relevant scholars (Derrick Bell, Shaun Harper, Richard Delgado, Gloria Ladson-Billings, Sylvia Hurtado, Kimberle Crenshaw, etc.) to take place. Furthermore, if not also done already, challenge your colleagues and others to personally engage the work of Derrick Bell (provided below). I believe exposure to the tenets of critical race theory as a transdisciplinary framework will provide greater understanding the endemic nature of racism, sexism, and classism in western society and our charge to challenge it as active agents for racial and social justice.

I believe in no uncertain terms, that ‘Stephanie’ should be continuously called to the carpet to explain her position and be publicly critiqued. Furthermore, her association with prestigious universities and her credentials accrued due to that relationship must also be challenged. Whereas her degree(s) may license her to pursue a practice of legal stewardship, it is not a validation or license to extend her biased, erroneous, and racist sentiments to the rest of the world. While I am led to believe her clerk position is in a public office, if it is in fact true, then a call to action of all public officials who attempt to wash this incident away and stand in her defense MUST be challenged directly.

It has also been said that potential call for her post as a Clerk in the 9th District to be reconsidered due to her remarks and I personally am in support of such action. If she is going to pursue a career of public service she must understand that includes, by and large, persons of color who are overwhelmingly and unfairly facing continuous judgments before our often unfair and unjust legal system. A public servant with inherent deficit perspectives on persons of color has no place as a litigator or arbitrator of our legal system whatsoever. The implications of such biases and beliefs are far to great for those populations continuously victim of a legal system predicated on their failure and a prison industry forecasting its business opportunities utilizing the same ‘intelligence’ statistics she believes to be race neutral and natural.

In closing, I thank you the members of Harvard’s Black Law Students Association and your due diligence for sharing this happening with the rest of our colleagues and myself. In the fell clutch of circumstance, as Hip Hop immortal Tupac Shakur so eloquently articulated, we “see no changes, all we see is racist faces – misplaced hate makes disgrace to races’. This is our lived experience of racial reality today, tomorrow, and yesterday. Nevertheless, because of and in spite of this era of racism without [self-identified] racists (Bonilla-Silva, 2010), we must remain committed to a notion of racial realism (Bell, 1990) as well as racial idealism, pushing onward and upward against the individual and collective ignorance of our colleagues. Let us use this opportunity to elevate the consciousness of our faculty, students, and staff and build a bridge connecting what we do in our privileged enclaves of the academy with the context of what is happening in the broader world. I, as well as many of my academic colleagues of color, appreciate your courage, candor, and conviction. More personally, I am thankful for you illuminating to the world, that while we are in the Ivy League, we are not living in an ivory tower. In the words of that old Negro spiritual — let us march on, ’til victory is won!

______________________________

Derrick Bell, Visiting Professor of Law

New York University Law School

Books to read:

And We Are Not Saved

Silent Covenants: Brown v. Board and the Unfulfilled Hopes of Racial Reform

Race, Racism, and the American Law

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Article by Charles H.F. Davis III

Charles H.F. Davis III is an Ivy League educated academician, social entrepreneur, marketing strategist, and personal brand architect. A true jack of all trades and master of excellence, Charles is a multi-talented consultant of all things business and pleasure giving attention to the details while adding to his clients the power of personal style. He is the President and Chief Inspiration Officer of VOCAL Speakers, an inspirational consulting practice committed to creating inspiration through the facilitation of speeches, informative presentations, and educational workshops. For more information on Charles please visit www.CharlesDavisSpeaks.com

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Her impetus for suggesting this difference is genetic and natural is personifying the nature of racism in U.S. society and our private elite institutions of higher learning.

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1 bitter black dude April 30, 2010 at 5:09 am

damn. i hate reading stuff like this. as if we dont already know thats what many of them think. it shouldnt even be justified with a response. it should have stayed a private email imho. or, simply forwarded to her employer on the sly. come on, have to start playing the game. cant argue with these people. its their intelligence, their studies, and their schools if you engage in a debate about that you lose even if you win for entertaining it. plus you eluded to it, what is intellegence anyway? and why does white think they can measure it like a cup of water?

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2 Yves April 30, 2010 at 6:16 am

These are the comments of my co-worker.

When I was a 1L (at FSU Law), one of the student organizations held a “Pimps and Ho’s Party” at Potbelly’s. People showed up dressed in velvet pimpwear and hooker garb. Well, it offended the BLSA and the Women’s Law Symposium. There was debate and discord for months.

I’m all for free expression and for people to be allowed to make statements no matter how false or misguided they may be. Those who disagree may respond and the better idea will prevail. This does go to show though that one shouldn’t put Harvard Law on too high an ivory tower. A lot has to do with who you know.

Remember, G.W. Bush was a Harvard grad

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3 Naturally_Sexy April 30, 2010 at 7:28 am

Well obviously Black people used to be docile and chidlike during he beginnings of slavery, we were stolen from our homeland and forced to work for people with guns in anothher country and culture. You would seem that way too… Violence, as bad as it is, is the only way to get people's attention. Yeah MLK did great things peacefully, Gandhi too, but when your dealing with white supramacists whipping you, trying to force you to do work, and seperating your family, the one thing you can somewhat control in your life, you'd go ape crazy on them mofos too (lmao) But seriously, the society you are in can shape how you are. If you see the only way to get your point across is to bust a mofo in the head with a shovel, then do what you gotta do. Blacks had nothing to lose and they were fed up. I'm not even sure if I've ever seen or heard anyone say this but I am Damn Proud of my ancestors for taking to rebellions and violence. People didn't want to hear our voice so the MADE them listen, one way or another.

As far as Blacks being less intelligent, that's some of that old BS. People just want to give a reason for why whites and others are "better" when really, alot of the great things that helped advance society were made by BLACKS! Improvements to the early computer (typewriter), fridge, blood storage, gas masks, traffic light, hell the SuperSoaker! Granted these may not be the greatest things Blacks have invented but this is just a sample of how effing AMAZING we are as people and if we were less intelligent, we wouldn't have come up with it before the "more intelligent" ones. I'm just saying….

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4 Johnny Harris June 24, 2011 at 4:30 pm

“we were stolen from our homeland”

You were bought, from other Africans who captured you or destroyed your village. The white devil just didn’t go down to Africa and grab you from your bed.

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5 disgruntledamerican September 1, 2011 at 4:08 pm

While I agree that Africans did indeed play a huge role in the perpetuation of the slave trade, that still does not let Europeans off the hook. There was evil on both sides.

Think about it like this: if a parent offers their ten-year-old child to you as a sexual favor would you do it? If you are a human being, then of course you wouldn’t! So going back to the African example, why would any decent human being agree to enslave another, even when some of his kinspeople offered them? This is inexcusable, no matter how one looks at it.

It takes maturity to accept responsibility for wrongdoing. In an era where many have accused “blacks” (whatever that term means) of making excuses for their shortcomings, there are some who are making excuses for the actions of greedy Europeans, infected with the diseases of capitalism.

And before you tar me with the “angry black person” brush, I will inform you that I condemn the African chiefs just as strongly as the Europeans for their role in slavery.

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6 Asad February 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Johnny, you are an asshat. We were absolutely stolen by hook, crook, and the white man’s holy book. The history of slaver in Africa consisted of voluntary and principle based indentured servitude. Arabs in Africa served as middle men between Whites in the North (who couldn’t venture into the Sub Sahara) and the indigenous. These Arabs then turned fragmented tribes against one another to slide into the gap and harvest the spoils of war. This tactic was repeated time and time again, all the way up to the divide and conquer tactics used in Rwanda.

Do some reading over at http://unitedblackamerica.com before making asinine comments.

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7 Abel July 23, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Uh huh. And as soon as a white person starts naming what their race accomplished, then they’re a racist. Also, that’d be an almost never ending list.

In addition, the blacks weren’t the only slaves in the States. The Irish were slaves at the same time as blacks. In fact, they were cheaper then black slaves. Which meant, they were often treated much more harshly, as it didn’t cost nearly as much to replace an Irish slave, as it did a black one. But funny thing is, you don’t really hear about the Irish slaves. Only the black ones. Mainly because all you ever hear from black people, are how they were once slaves and they should be given a free ride because of it.

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8 PrettyIsAsPrettyDoes September 15, 2011 at 10:50 am

Abel…I told myself I wouldn’t jump into this conversation, but I will discuss a few of your points.

First, white people don’t need to list all the accomplishments of their race. Why? Because white people in America have generally taken all the credit for things, while people of color were overlooked or denied the same opportunities.

Just as a side note…I hear some white people complain about BET or beauty contests for Black women, claiming that this is reverse racism. What these people fail to realize is that it is not racism because whites have always had films and beauty contests for themselves, typically showing positive images. It is not wrong for a Black person to want the same.

And while you are correct about some Irish people being slaves or indentured servants, you should know that this is because the Irish were not always considered part of the white race. Like the Jews and Italians, they weren’t considered “truly” white until the late 1930′s. Mexicans were and still are another stigmatized group.

It is also noteworthy that the Irish might have been enslaved at one point, but they did not continue to suffer the intense persecution that Black people did long after slavery ended. There are no accounts of Irish people being lynched routinely. There was no Jim Crow for Irish people. With the exception of a few very elite country clubs, Irish people were free to go anywhere they wanted to. They could try on clothes and shoes at department stores. They could sit anywhere they wanted on a bus. They could eat in any restaurant. They could drink freely from any water fountain. They were not denied educational opportunities or employment. Irish girls were allowed to participate in beauty contests. The Klan did not target Irish people, except in parts of the northeast.

Emmett Till, the Black boy who was murdered in 1955, does not have an Irish counterpart. Today is the anniversary of the 1963 church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama. Four little Black girls were killed by white supremacists. Now I know that Ireland has been war-torn, but as an American, I have not heard of little Irish girls being killed by racists in the United States.

I will stop here.

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9 Garfield April 30, 2010 at 7:41 am

I'm bored with this already. Not you Charles, for your dissertation on the matter was exceptionally well written and intelligent. Add also, I'm appreciative of you providing some form of a solution to the problem (as opposed to just making a statement about it). I hope Harvard takes heed to what you're saying. But in the end, this is Harvard, the person is most certainly not going to lose too much over it. So she gets no clerkship? She'll use one of the infinite connections and find a low key job elsewhere by people who harbor the same thoughts she does until this all blows over…which given the attention span of the general public, should be in a week or two.

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10 UltraFred April 30, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Mr. Davis was very eloquent, but not very effective. He effectively suggested shouting down Stephanie, instead of answering her. The simple fact is that in 50 years, no one has come up with a measure of general intelligence that black children and white children do equally well on–even when their parents have the same level of income and educational attainment. Until someone does that, the myth that Stephanie promotes will persist. Mr. Davis, don't marginalize her because you find her point offensive, simply prove her wrong. You did not do that. Please, please, please provide the data to prove her wrong.

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11 bitter black dude April 30, 2010 at 3:21 pm

I'm wondering when someone is going to come up with a general intelligence test that measures a persons aptitude to live sustainably. Looking at that oil spill from space is a trip.

In 2010, why should anyone ever have to argue they are equal to someone else? Sometimes a good shouting is in order.

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12 UltraFred May 4, 2010 at 7:54 am

Amen

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13 Niclaos May 5, 2010 at 10:02 am

I think the point you (Ultra Fred) missed was: It is nearly impossible to provide a metric for general intelligence; there are too many variables and factors to control for. Even this Stephanie" lady had to state the need for controls in her proposed methodology. In reality there is no actual way to determine racial genetic superiority of intellect. Furthermore, what standard are we even measuring to? To piggy-back off the comment by Bitter Black Dude…Who is more intelligent, the whites with their technological advancements, or the Native Americans who understood how to harmoniously and sustainably exist on the earth? Somehow I don’t think they had to deal with oil slicks and Anthropogenic Global Warming. In terms of the efficacy of his argument I disagree with your position as well. In my experience whenever we get loud with “white people” we get dismissed and appeased as if we were little children with no better way of communicating. I agree with Mr. Davis that we should use the courts of academic discourse and scientific reasoning to systematically and repetitively prove her theory irrelevant. I must say that Mr. Davis has given the best response to this issue I have read so far well stated and scientifically sound with supporting documentation from academia.

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14 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 12:56 am

"Who is more intelligent, the whites with their technological advancements, or the Native Americans who understood how to harmoniously and sustainably exist on the earth? Somehow I don’t think they had to deal with oil slicks and Anthropogenic Global Warming."

What an uneducated and bigoted piece of simplemindedness this is. The "native" americans? Would those be the same as the possessors of the "great horse culture of the plains" of Dances With Wolves (read: facts)" fame? The "fact" of the matter is that your Rousseau-inspired romantic nonsense that aboriginal early colonists of the likes of the Americas or the Australias (yes, they were colonists, and your lovely "native americans" had previously wiped out at least one set of earlier inhabitants still, who were akin to the Australian aboriginals) were not "in harmony" with anything other than that which they lacked the technological capacity to drive into extinction. What happened to all the megafauna of the Americas and Australias that existed prior to your delightful aboriginal people's term of residence? The giant marsupials, the moas, etc. etc. of the Australias; the giant sloths, lions, camels, eagles, tapirs etc. etc. etc. of the Americas? Their disappearance precisely coincides with the appearance of your precious "native americans" (ridiculous term as that is, since anyone born in the americas is a "native" american!). And were they peaceful with one another? Did they abjure the metals, horses, and guns of the invading europeans? Did they forbear to murder and invade each other's territory? Please.

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15 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 1:03 am

Yes, and for those who didn't get the "Dances With Facts" reference, the last line of the film should have read: "… and so passed the great PEDESTRIAN culture of the plains."

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16 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 1:43 am

Actually, nicely, while I'm on the subject, with regards to the tests being culturally biased, that may perhaps be, though numerous differing styles of tests have been devised over the years. They pretty much all show that, wait for it, not "white" (ridiculous term) europeans, but (should we now be calling them "yellow"?) asians of the sino variety turn out consistently to be the most "intelligent". Hmmmm… looks like a "white" european conspiracy? Ummm… perhaps not. Amusingly, the sino-asians are the closest cousins of most of what Niclaos refers to here as "native" americans. Go chew on that, for a while, will you?

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17 bitter black dude September 19, 2010 at 4:15 am

if i were to make a test, and base it on the simple principle of humanity, like caring for one another, making connections, and most importantly, not destroying the god damned planet so 100 years from now it was uninhabitable, white people would surely be the dumbest mother----ers on Earth.

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18 jwatts99 April 1, 2011 at 10:18 pm

So, why are you using a computer and internet in your heated/air conditioned house ‘bitter black dude’?

Why not go live like Blacks were living before Whites arrived in Africa? Go build a mud hut and live in it.

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19 eat a dick dude May 17, 2011 at 8:38 pm

why dont you go take some male enhancement pills

20 bitter black dude May 27, 2011 at 6:55 pm

lol. like yt had it so good in plague ridden europe.

i would gladly live in a hut and build my social networks among people instead of the interwebs, but alas im america’s son, bastard at that, and this is all i know. until yt invents a microchip that inculcates in its subjects cultures and memories they don’t possess prior to insertion, i will see you in line at wal-mart and i’ll be bytching the whole time. thx.

21 Rob May 27, 2011 at 2:29 pm

I fail to unlederstand how white people are any less caring than Chinese, Japanese, Arabs, or Blacks. China had one of the 20th Century’s most nefarous homocidal maniacs , Mao tse Tung. Japanese were not exactly a “caring” bunch to thel Korean women, much less to people of Nanking China. Do I really need to go into how Arabic culture has inot always been so “caring” towards women, and non Muslims? How caring have the Sudanese (north) been to Dafur Sudan? Were the Turks caring to Armenians? How about Rwandans? How caring was Idi Amin, or Robert Mugave? How gcaring are the Somali War Lords? Sanctmonious self righteous indignation towards whites does not make an argument valid, particularly if is coupled w/ hypocrisy

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22 Rob May 27, 2011 at 2:29 pm

I fail to unlederstand how white people are any less caring than Chinese, Japanese, Arabs, or Blacks. China had one of the 20th Century’s most nefarous homocidal maniacs , Mao tse Tung. Japanese were not exactly a “caring” bunch to thel Korean women, much less to people of Nanking China. Do I really need to go into how Arabic culture has inot always been so “caring” towards women, and non Muslims? How caring have the Sudanese (north) been to Dafur Sudan? Were the Turks caring to Armenians? How about Rwandans? How caring was Idi Amin, or Robert Mugave? How gcaring are the Somali War Lords? Sanctmonious self righteous indignation towards whites does not make an argument valid, particularly if is coupled w/ hypocrisy

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23 bitter black dude May 27, 2011 at 6:46 pm

i stand by my statement.

half the peoples you named are coming out of a sh!t storm of post colonial yt clusterf@ck with western influence all over it.

and that is beside the point. you chose the most subjective argument to attack. i wont even engage in a back and forth there because it is my opinion but i will say you missed the most important point, which is: “not destroying the god damned planet so 100 years from now it was uninhabitable”

and i definitely stand by that. no group of human’s have been as irrevocably destructive and put our species and planet in so much peril. you can engage in a cost/benefit analysis if you wish, but i will not. i’ll simply say endagering ones species and habitat is the dumbest thing a person can do and someone should create a testing metric for it and call it an intelligence quotient. of course i do not think this is possible, nor do i think iq tests are particularly feasible, but if someone were to do it, it would probably be alot more useful than the traditional iq test.

ill leave it to the people with high iq’s to develop one. lets see how long we have to wait.

24 George May 27, 2011 at 7:35 pm

Bitter black Dude, what you choose not to acknowledge is that another profoundly destructive force in the degradation of the earth is the over population of the earth. This is largely attributable to Afrcans, South Americans, and Asians, not Europeans, or White Americans. That indeed is the collossal cluster F%$K. Of course it is easier to to play the denal and blame(whitey)game. That is a feeble argument however, since it is rooted in the delusional marxist paradigm that everything wrong w/ earth iis due to western colonialism and not anything else. The vew is not comprehensive in that it denies malthsusan grim reality that there is a threshold (which we are clearly at) of resources to population. Bottom line: If Africa, S.America, tost of Asia continue to over populate than the world will become severely more degraded. To deny, or trvialize that fact , is akin to saying the world is flat. Accountabil ty must be across the board. It is not so simple to just say…”White man’s burden”. That is irresponsible and ignorant.

25 George May 27, 2011 at 7:50 pm

You said “half” of colonial. So, is the other half insignificant? USA also was being reamed by Colonialism and so what/how does that change the validity of facts that: many nations, including USA, that came out of Colonial oppression, were/are responsible for not “Caring?” Am I to understand that only China, or anyother nation, like India, get blanche for not “caring” because they freed themselves of colonialism more recently? Have you seen or been to India, or China? Not a lot of “caring”

26 Bitter black dude June 3, 2011 at 11:27 am
George.

1. Over population would not be possible without western methods of agriculture, transportation, and livestock handling. 2. Over population, even if possible, which it is not because equilibrium would not be as thwarted by non western methods, would not be as deleterious without western methods. 3. Even assuming I am wrong on the first two, come up with a metric call it IQ and I still would bet yt are the dumbest mother----ers on earth, back to my original statement.

I ignoredd the other argument because one its a straw man and two I only am educated enough to speak on half of them.

27 George May 27, 2011 at 7:44 pm

Over population is a major problem especially in terms of destruction of the earth. Ths problem is pandemic in Africa, S.America, and most of Asia.

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28 George June 3, 2011 at 7:47 pm

@ Bitter black Dude The over population of the earth is also attrtibutable to irresponsibility of NOT planning a family. Unless you believe that there is no such thing as free will. While it is easy to deny any responsibility, or lack thereof, it does not change the facts that procreating is a conscioius choice, lest one believe that certain races are predisposed as to control their pleasure principle desires, or not use condoms. Finally, do I understand you to say that European Americans are to blame for over population in Africa because they gave them methods of agriculture, medicine, etc? Ths argument is absurd. Obviously it would be racist to offer nothing and let the people starve even more than they are already. Showing how to get more water and providing more water does indeed raise the population, which is a problem,but doing nothing would be heinous. The population explodes due to the same reason it does in USA. It seems to be part of the culture. That is NOT genetics, that is Anthropological Cutlure and subculture.

29 Bitter black dude June 4, 2011 at 7:31 am
George.

1. Over population in itself is not a problem which would lead to the extinction of the human race and or destruction of the planet. Lead to starvation, disease, and human suffering, yes. But the planet and species would survive, those pitfalls are merely natures way of dealing with overpopulation.

2. New york city is overpopulated. As are most cities with populations over a hundred thousand. You see george just because yt in all their brilliance have found ways to trick nature from spewing disease, starvation, and other pestilence doesn’t mean they have not suffered consequences from the overpopulation. 3. The consequences western methods invoke as opposed to others is death of the entire species by nuclear waste, super virulent strains of e.coli impervious to antibiotics, fossi fuel emissions, and other toxic wastes. These are consequences which threaten the entire species. The propensity for a people to destroy the species would be my testing metric and again, back to my original statement. 4. Yt is a scourge on the earth. And has been for many centuries. With yts rise to prominence also has been a corresponding threat to the ecosystem and species. 5. Yt would like to attribute their prominence to intellect or worse, god. But I simply would attribute it to their aims, motivations, and recessive genes.

30 Malkia January 11, 2012 at 6:28 am

Funny, Africans are dying of AIDS, war, famine, genocide, drought, and all types of messed up deaths but we STILL manage to over-populate the earth? Compared to the sheer size of Africa and its population density I would wager to say that Africa is NOT over-populated. In fact Africa has a population density of 66 people per square mile so FOH with over-population claims!

You want to save the earth, who consumes most this earth’s resources? Who messed up the Niger delta drilling for oil? The West has a larger carbon foot print than Africa yet we are the ones messing the planet coz we have too many kids. White people and their delusions make me laugh.

That’s all.

31 PrettyIsAsPrettyDoes September 15, 2011 at 10:18 am

Native Earthian…you claim to be of mixed race but your mindset seems to be that of a white racist in some ways. Very interesting.

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32 Rosalie April 30, 2010 at 3:23 pm

Stephanie who? Why won't anyone write her full name? Everyone should know who she is.

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33 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 1:33 am

Why, "Rosalie"? What's your full name?

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34 smart dumb n...... May 3, 2010 at 1:02 pm

Its pretty sad to hear such antiquated language from a law student at the world's top university who will undoubtedly land a career giving her great power and influence. It's ironic that the university that produced W.E.B. Dubois, who argued how nonsensical these beliefs are, bring up a topic that had been ended years before, yet continues to be argued by white supremacists and sheltered suburbanites. The scientific fact that a definite definition of race doesn't exist, especially among African Americans, with the long American history of ethnic blending, with Stephanie's reasoning one could argue its the introduction of white genetics that causes lower intelligence in blacks. Her ignorance is coupled with no scientific evidence to prove her point, rather she points to the fact that this belief cannot be proven as a sign that it is most likely true. Just like her ancestors tried to justify slavery by denying the humanity of Africans. This concept of racial stratification was popular 100 years ago, but was based on pseudo-science and faulty assumptions that fall to pieces when confronted by tens of thousands of years of African technology, civilization, art, etc. Historically, as Dubois wrote, when asked to explain the remarkable achievements of Africans over the years, some whites would argue that these Africans(Egyptians, Ethiopians, Nubians) really weren't black, or that outside forces entered and accounted for the change. An assertion disproved instances by physical evidence and the time discrepancy between the sophistication of European societies and the rest of the ancient world. Not even to get into the consequences the slave trade had on a continent of people over the last 600 years, an event never seen and never equaled anywhere in the world. This is just another example of how myths continue to be perpetuated in society, this one is more shocking because it was such a stupid comment from someone who should know better

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35 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 2:02 am

Read her comments again. You are certain. Science does not deal in absolute certainties, and at this point, the picture remains somewhat murky. It may be there are negligible differences, and what you say is certainly right about genetic mixing, although you omitted to make the obvious point that Africa has the widest genetic diversity (by far and far away!) of any continent, which would have helped. So the real discussion could focus as much on differences between groups within Africa (and you know that among the key difficulties Africa faces are inter-group rivalries among the so-called "black" population- a misnomer I agree). But the fact remains that Stephanie did not engage in parochial or patently foolish discourse, in this PRIVATE correspondence, which the author here rather cavalierly and in bad faith chose to publicize (resulting in a none-too-covert baying for her full identity- to what end?). Rather, if you can rise above your OWN parochial knee-jerk outrage for a moment, she expresses a range of possibilities, fully admits them all, and declares herself unsure, in very eloquent terms. Or are students not allowed to do this these days, in your opinion?

Oh, and by the by, your suggestion that Harvard is the world's "top" university, is both unfounded, and amusingly parochial and bigoted.

Tara!

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36 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 2:07 am

Oh, and while we're on the subject of slavery:

-Around 1.25 million "white" (ugh!) Europeans were captured from the coasts of Europe as far north as Northern Ireland, and disappeared into slavery in Africa in the period 1580 to 1780 (by which time European sea power finally put a stop to this). See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/empire_seapo…

-Slavery came to an end because of moral action within Europe, originating in the UK, at a time when slavery was becoming more, not less profitable. The British then went on unilaterally to expend resources, and blood, destroying slaving installations up and down the coast of Africa.

-The only countries in the world where one may still go and buy human beings, explicitly as slaves, in open public markets, for cash today, are in… Africa.

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37 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 2:08 am

Oh, and before you go there, I am of mixed race myself.

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38 Subjectivity, Paroch July 11, 2010 at 11:28 pm

Harvard is literally the worlds top university according to US and World Report and several other sources, not that they have the most objective rankings in the world but anywhos…As for "parochial knee jerk reaction"I dont think most people of African decent, and many people regardless of ethnicity agree with this girl either. And its not of of some knee jerk emotionally biased reaction to a politically incorrect statement either. She made an ignorant statement, which I guess should be chalked up to naivete and, if so, she really technically cant be blamed for. Maybe the real discussion should be on how debates that were settled decades ago continue to pop up due to our country's inadequate education system, especially history. The point of bringing up Harvard in the first place, a school with one of the world's most venerable humanities departments and the largest academic library, is that a better characterization of Harvard for you, would hopefully allow someone who is obviously smart enough to be granted entrance into their law program a chance to learn some thing about the world. But, as many already know their isn't much time in law school for anything else besides being miserable, so I guess she never did a lot of research on certain topics. She did not express a full range of possibilities, those were spurious generalizations based on observations of some of the most oppressed people to ever live on the most exploited continent in the universe, but that is a whole different discussion. And by trying to equate European Slavery with the African chattel slavery not only neglects the large discrepancy in people displaced, but since white people were slaves too does that make everyone equal? There were white slaves in America too, but like with most internal struggles, conflict was instigated between two groups, blacks and whites, in order for a wealthy elite to deter the power of a united peasantry who could overpower them and, most importantly, disrupt their profitable industries. Slavery did not just end because of moral action in Europe. Abolitionists from around the world abhorred the inherently evil system including freed slaves like Frederick Douglas, and Sojourner Truth who spoke around the world and told of the horrors experienced by their people. Blacks were still enslaved in some places until the 20th century, at a time when the industrial revolution created industries far more profitable than forced agricultural labor, and many empires were becoming broke because of the overextending of their resources in intractable money draining colonies. You can buy a human being in any country if you are willing to pay, not to even mention sexual slavery, the modern American prison system basically employs slave labor by allowing corporations to profit from the forced labor of inmates, not to mention how after slavery in America blacks were arrested on charges such as not holding a full time job, imprisoned and loaned out to perform menial tasks for no pay, were subjected to whippings, and many were killed in the process. This continued up until after the second world war. This is all on record, read the works of W.E.B. Dubois, John Hope Franklin, John Henrik Clarke, to name a few. Lastly, to get back to the topic at hand, the ignorance of this girl shows how misinformation resulting from a lack historical knowledge or the straight up bending of facts to mislead have, whether you like it or not, real consequences. Although I agree that she may not have voiced her opinion out of spite or with the intent to offend, it will most certainly always be interpreted that way for the foreseeable future. I find it rather patronizing and ad hominem to label someone's commentary on such a matter as "parochial", ill give you knee-jerk, as if it was a debate on which city's baseball team is the best. Is it "parochial" for a descendant of someone murdered in a Nazi concentration camp to refute that Jewish people have horns and tails and eat German babies for amusement? There may things that you find reprehensible that others may find harmless. Not to accuse you of being hypocritical.

This whole debate is straight out of the 19th and early 20th century when such stereotypes and falsehoods of Africans and other non whites were used to justify their exploitation and the colonization of the land. Was it "parochial" of my great great grandmother to not tell my grandfather that his uncle was lynched for no reason other than the color of his skin until he was a grown man out of the fear that he might have retaliated if he would have found out when he was a teenager. Maybe, who's knows. Gravity is only a theory right? I guess the only things we know for certain are you and I will someday, the sun will eventually swallow the earth, and a certain "race" of people, if there is even a genetic justification for such a term, is stupid and there nothing they can do about it.

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39 PrettyIsAsPrettyDoes September 15, 2011 at 10:13 am

What are you mixed with?

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40 PrettyIsAsPrettyDoes September 15, 2011 at 10:14 am

My comment was for Native Earthian… you claim to be of mixed race. What are you mixed with? I am also of mixed race.

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41 Rita May 5, 2010 at 11:56 am

Stephanie Grace is a 3rd year law student, not a professor, at Harvard…thank goodness ! I suppose she has a right to her opinion, regardless of how biased and hateful it is. Hopefully the professors set her right.

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42 Native Earthian July 9, 2010 at 1:38 am

So, while we're about "outing" folks, what's your name, and place of work address, then, "Rita"? What is the purpose of doing that? Are students at top universities not allowed to express honest, and well argued opinions, in question form, for goodness sakes, in private correspondence with an academic? Welcome to the thought police. But since you are clearly in favor of this sort of disclosure, come on, what about yours?

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43 bitter black dude September 19, 2010 at 4:23 am

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44 Court May 5, 2010 at 2:37 pm

When I first read about this my initial reaction was Stop the damn presses! Someone has negative feelings about black people? Say it ain't so. Moving on…

But I just want to address the people who keep talking about white people's achievements and black people being just as good as they are. For us to be equal to the white man, you're going to have to dig a hole in the earth. They've done a stupendous job of convincing you of their superiority and we've bought it hook line and sinker.

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[Bavaria]

Bora tungerudi kutawaliwa upya

 

[mrangi]

Bora tungerudi kutawaliwa upya

kwi kwi kwi maana tunavyo tawaliwa sasa ni kama tuko kwenye tanuri la moto

 

[mdukuzi]

Bora tungerudi kutawaliwa upya

hiyo statement ilisababisha samuel sitta achapwe viboko na mwalimu wakati yupo chuo kikuu

 

[Bavaria]

hiyo statement ilisababisha samuel sitta achapwe viboko na mwalimu wakati yupo chuo kikuu

Ujamaa ni utumwa

 

[Bavaria]

kwi kwi kwi maana tunavyo tawaliwa sasa ni kama tuko kwenye tanuri la moto

Si ndo hapo mkuu

 

[a4afrika]

wazungu wako duniani kupigania maslahi yao.....viongozi wetu wao kimbelembele tu kwao wote wamejazana huko kwa obama.....wanalia njaaa tu hawajui tumia fursa tulizo nazo, wazungu wanatumia udhaifu wetu tuliyokuwa nayo, gas imeanza chimba tanzania songosongo tangu miaka ya 1978-80, mpaka leo wanajifanya gas ndyo imegundulika wanachimba lakini haijamsaidia mtanzania..dhahabu hivyo hivyo na almasi hakuna kitu...ujinga wa viongozi wetu

Yap! U sahihi Mkuu wangu! Lakini lazima tutambue kuwa viongozi legelege hubebwa na raia legelege pia! Muhimu ni kujiuliza, kama hadi karne ya 15 tulilingana kimaendeleo, aje wao leo wako maili kenda juu yetu? Walituacha wapi na kwa namna gani!
Tukitafakari kwa makini pia tunaona kuwa, huu uongozi unaolaumiwa ulianza tu takribani miaka 50 nyuma, je Unyonge wa muafrika ni wa muda huo? HAPANA! Kumbe tunagundua kuwa Uongozi legelege wa Waafrika, si chanzo bali ni sehemu ya tatizo la waafrika! UDUNI na UNYONGE wetu vinatawaliwa na sifa kama hzo za uongozi legege, umasikini, ujinga, kukosa uzalendo, n.k. So, ni lazima tujiulize, vyote hivi vilianza wapi na kwa nini! Utagundua kuwa, Uduni wetu ulianza tu pale Mzungu alipoanza kukwea nasi kushuka. Kwanini tushuke wao wakwee, ni pale tu tulipoanza kukiuka nature iliyotulee, kiuchumi, kisiasa, kitamaduni, kimazingira na hata kiroho pia. Pale tu tulipoanza kukengeuka!
Muhimu pia ni kujiuliza kama kweli walichofikia wazungu ni True au Fake Development!
Tunapaswa kuitafakari upya tafsiri ya dhana Maendeleo, haiko sawa na tutaendelea kucheza ngoma ya wachawi!
Anaita sasa!

 

[mrangi]

Yap! U sahihi Mkuu wangu! Lakini lazima tutambue kuwa viongozi legelege hubebwa na raia legelege pia! Muhimu ni kujiuliza, kama hadi karne ya 15 tulilingana kimaendeleo, aje wao leo wako maili kenda juu yetu? Walituacha wapi na kwa namna gani!
Tukitafakari kwa makini pia tunaona kuwa, huu uongozi unaolaumiwa ulianza tu takribani miaka 50 nyuma, je Unyonge wa muafrika ni wa muda huo? HAPANA! Kumbe tunagundua kuwa Uongozi legelege wa Waafrika, si chanzo bali ni sehemu ya tatizo la waafrika! UDUNI na UNYONGE wetu vinatawaliwa na sifa kama hzo za uongozi legege, umasikini, ujinga, kukosa uzalendo, n.k. So, ni lazima tujiulize, vyote hivi vilianza wapi na kwa nini! Utagundua kuwa, Uduni wetu ulianza tu pale Mzungu alipoanza kukwea nasi kushuka. Kwanini tushuke wao wakwee, ni pale tu tulipoanza kukiuka nature iliyotulee, kiuchumi, kisiasa, kitamaduni, kimazingira na hata kiroho pia. Pale tu tulipoanza kukengeuka!
Muhimu pia ni kujiuliza kama kweli walichofikia wazungu ni True au Fake Development!
Tunapaswa kuitafakari upya tafsiri ya dhana Maendeleo, haiko sawa na tutaendelea kucheza ngoma ya wachawi!
Anaita sasa!

ni kweli rai tukiwa lege lege ndiyo tunawapa wsliyoju yetu kutuendeshs wanavyotaka....mfano serikali hii wanafanya maamuzi mengi na muhimu kwa nchi bila kushirikisha wananchi wao wanaona wananchi wengi ni sisi mabwege, wanaona nchi kama yao..........lazima ifike sehemu tuseme hapanaaaaaa inatoshaaaaa

 

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JPM komaa na sisis tutakomaa