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ukitoa space hakuna chochote ni...utupu

Similarly, If you square a circle in Euclidean geometry you will get a square circle.

Just because you can think of something, that does not mean it exists, otherwise you run the risk of having that same thing existing and not existing at once, because as much as you can think "ukitoa space hakuna chochote, ni utupu" unaweza pia kufikiria "kuitoa space hakuwezekaniki".

Ushawahi kuitoa space au kuwa na habari za mtu aliyefanukiwa kufanya hivyo verifiably?
 
Hawa jamaa kwenye hiyo link yako wamenichanganya

Wameandika "empty space" halafu hapo hapo wakaandika "has energy"
Hii inawezekanaje?

Nijuavyo mimi kwenye eneo kukiwa na kitu tayari siyo "empty"
Sasa hawa jamaa niaje?

Au "energy" sio "kitu"?

Kama ni hivyo watakuwa wanakinzana na wewe!!!

Empty space as in space that is empty of material things, the energy field is not material, as in it is not matter.

Unaweza kusema "glasi hii ni tupu" kwa maana haina maji wala mada yoyote, lakini hilo halimaanishi kwamba glasi hiyo haina nishati ya sauti ndani yake.

Now it is my turn to ask.

Unafahamu maana ya context?
 
Empty space as in space that is empty of material things, the energy field is not material, as in it is not matter.

Unaweza kusema "glasi hii ni tupu" kwa maana haina maji wala mada yoyote, lakini hilo halimaanishi kwamba glasi hiyo haina nishati ya sauti ndani yake.

Now it is my turn to ask.
Nitapataje uhakika kuwa hicho ulichokifafanua hapa ndicho walichomaanisha?
Unafahamu maana ya context?

Sijui!!!!
 
Who was Lucifer?
Lucifer was the Anointed Cherub. Anointed means to be set apart for Gods Divine purpose. It also means "bestowal of Gods divine favor", and "appointment to a special place or function." God had given Satan a certain amount of power and authority. But he perverted that power. Lucifer wanted to exalt himself above God... rather than "just" being the Angel of God.

If God is so good, then why did he create Satan?

Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it.
( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 ) Like man, the angels were created perfect, and with a free will.
Satan was lifted up because of his beauty, he corrupted the wisdom by reason of his brightness (This is in Ezekiel 28:17)


Ezekiel 28:12 (KJV)

"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty." 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

This is not an earthly king, as the word "cherub" is only used in references to angels.

15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

The word "covering" is from the Hebrew word cakak, and means: to entwine, to fence in, cover over, protect, defend, hedge in, (source "The complete word study Old Testament")

Was Lucifer’s job to protect the very earth he corrupted? Was this one of his duties that gave him so much pride?

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

0 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.



Question:
"Where does Satan and the fall fit into all of this? He must have been cast down before Adam and Eve were created because he was there to tempt Eve in the Garden? Was there, could there have been, a pre-Adamic age - and surly this would have been a catastrophic event?
Best regards
Amanda S. Q. 6/19/01


Answer:
Satan was cast out of heaven after Adam and Eve were created, because God said the Creation was still "very good" on day 6 after man had been created.

There was nothing and no one here before Adam and Eve. Read my page disproving the Gap Theory for more information.



Isaiah 14:12

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Satan wanted to be God. The Bible tells us in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 that Satan has become the "god of this world". And Revelation 20:10 tells us that he will be eternally punished for it.


15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Satan wanted to be God. The Bible tells us in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 that Satan has become the "god of this world". And Revelation 20:10 tells us that he will be eternally punished for it.


15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
When Lucifer was cast out of Heaven, one third of all the angels were cast out with him. (Rev.12:4,9)

Revelation 12:4-9 (King James Version) "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

(5) And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

(6)And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

(7)And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (8)And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

(9)And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Lucifer became Satan, and the fallen angels became Demons.


Why didn't God just destroy Satan?
Because sin had entered the world, and into the very nature of man through Adams transgression, then for God to destroy Satan, he would also have had to destroy the man he loved. But God had a better way. A way of Redemption.

And Christ the Redeemer was on His way !


His name is JESUS CHRIST
 
Uzuri au ubaya wangu siogopi kusemwa vibaya wala sitafuti kusifiwa.
Sikuhitaji kuyajua hayo! Unawezaje kujua uzuri wako na ubaya wako? Uthibitishe huo uzuri wako na ubaya wako.
Ignore list ni haki yangu kuwatupa ninaoona hawana cha maana.

Ndiyo maana ikawekwa pale, si pambo.
Unatumia kifaa gani kuwaona hao watu wasiokuwa na maana?? Kwasababu hapa hatuonani

Na hata kama nina uwezo mdogo wa kufikiri -sijawahi kudai kwamba nina uwezo mkubwa wa kufikiri by the way- wewe unayesema nina uwezo mdogo wa kufikiri na kushindwa kuonyesha mtu huyu mwenye uwezo mdogo wa kufikiri kwa nini, una uwezo mdogo zaidi yake.
Bado tu unazidi kuthibitisha kauwezo kako kalivyo kadogo.!

Unataka nikuoneshe vipi kwamba unauwezo ndogo wa kufikiri?
 
Similarly, If you square a circle in Euclidean geometry you will get a square circle.

Just because you can think of something, that does not mean it exists, otherwise you run the risk of having that same thing existing and not existing at once, because as much as you can think "ukitoa space hakuna chochote, ni utupu" unaweza pia kufikiria "kuitoa space hakuwezekaniki".

Ushawahi kuitoa space au kuwa na habari za mtu aliyefanukiwa kufanya hivyo verifiably?

haiwezakaniki na nini?


mtu kushindwa kutoa space haimaanishi space haitoki ,kukosa ushaidi wa nini kitatoa space haimaanishi space haiwezi kutoka pengeni ushahidi upo ila kiwango cha kufikiri kidogo
 
Who was Lucifer?
Lucifer was the Anointed Cherub. Anointed means to be set apart for Gods Divine purpose. It also means "bestowal of Gods divine favor", and "appointment to a special place or function." God had given Satan a certain amount of power and authority. But he perverted that power. Lucifer wanted to exalt himself above God... rather than "just" being the Angel of God.

If God is so good, then why did he create Satan?

Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it.
( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 ) Like man, the angels were created perfect, and with a free will.
Satan was lifted up because of his beauty, he corrupted the wisdom by reason of his brightness (This is in Ezekiel 28:17)


Ezekiel 28:12 (KJV)

"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty." 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

This is not an earthly king, as the word "cherub" is only used in references to angels.

15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

The word "covering" is from the Hebrew word cakak, and means: to entwine, to fence in, cover over, protect, defend, hedge in, (source "The complete word study Old Testament")

Was Lucifer’s job to protect the very earth he corrupted? Was this one of his duties that gave him so much pride?

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

0 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.



Question:
"Where does Satan and the fall fit into all of this? He must have been cast down before Adam and Eve were created because he was there to tempt Eve in the Garden? Was there, could there have been, a pre-Adamic age - and surly this would have been a catastrophic event?
Best regards
Amanda S. Q. 6/19/01


Answer:
Satan was cast out of heaven after Adam and Eve were created, because God said the Creation was still "very good" on day 6 after man had been created.

There was nothing and no one here before Adam and Eve. Read my page disproving the Gap Theory for more information.



Isaiah 14:12

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Satan wanted to be God. The Bible tells us in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 that Satan has become the "god of this world". And Revelation 20:10 tells us that he will be eternally punished for it.


15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Satan wanted to be God. The Bible tells us in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 that Satan has become the "god of this world". And Revelation 20:10 tells us that he will be eternally punished for it.


15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
When Lucifer was cast out of Heaven, one third of all the angels were cast out with him. (Rev.12:4,9)

Revelation 12:4-9 (King James Version) "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

(5) And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

(6)And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

(7)And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (8)And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

(9)And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Lucifer became Satan, and the fallen angels became Demons.


Why didn't God just destroy Satan?
Because sin had entered the world, and into the very nature of man through Adams transgression, then for God to destroy Satan, he would also have had to destroy the man he loved. But God had a better way. A way of Redemption.

And Christ the Redeemer was on His way !


His name is JESUS CHRIST

My question is not so much "if god was good, why did he create satan", but why did he create a universe in which satan and evil was possible.
 
My question is not so much "if god was good, why did he create satan", but why did he create a universe in which satan and evil was possible.

GOD didnot create satan but an angel who went against
 
Kwa mujibu wako Mungu hakujua anaumba kiumbe ambacho kitakuja kumsaliti...right..?

anajua kila kitu anajua kina mapungufu amekipa uhuru wa kuhoji inakuwa vipi ili kikigeuka amkumbushe yeye ndo muumbaji ,ni uumbaji wake anaamua chochote ni muumbaji walioumbwa hawajui kuhusu yeye bali kumtukuza na kumsifu basi
 
You have short memory.
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By Kiranga Ushasema "space", kuna space, hakuna utupu.

Zaidi ya hapo space ina energy field, inayotoa virtual particles constantly.

Kwa hiyo ukiwa na space, huna utupu. Ukitaka utupu ondoa space.

Ndiyo maana nikauliza uelewa wa quantum physics, a basic understanding of quantum physics would help tremendously in shedding light on this question.
 
Kwa mujibu wako Mungu hakujua anaumba kiumbe ambacho kitakuja kumsaliti...right..?

Ametuumba kwa mfano wake na kumpendeza but with free will to do what ever we want... sasa ukifanya mema utavuna mema ukifanya mabaya utayavuna mabaya... thts what i think...
 
Ila shetani anasingiziwa mengi sana aisee!

How comes roho haionekani lakini kila jambo baya likifanyika linaelekezwa kwake?

Hivi anafananaje huyu kiumbe/roho?
 
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