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Manchester United v Chelsea, Premier League, 4.10pm Sunday 8 May

Sir Alex Ferguson's Manchester United ready to pull clear of Liverpool

The prospect of a record 19th title makes today's match against Chelsea mean far more than the average top-of-the-table clash



  • Manchester-United-v-Schal-007.jpg
    Sir Alex Ferguson has wanted to 'knock Liverpool off their bloody perch' since arriving at Manchester United in 1986. Photograph: Michael Regan/Getty Images

    Six years ago on Tuesday a Chelsea side with Carlo Cudicini, Robert Huth, Tiago and Geremi were granted a guard of honour at Old Trafford as the league title made its journey to Stamford Bridge for the first time in 50 years.
    Since then Manchester United and Chelsea have passed the championship between each other as if by right. But a much longer struggle re-presents itself when the two clubs collide today. When Sir Alex Ferguson steamed into Manchester in November 1986, United had won the old First Division title seven times from 1908 to 1967. Liverpool had been the top team in England on 16 occasions. Today the score is 18 each, and a win for United over Chelsea this afternoon would almost guarantee their investiture as the country's No1.
    This north-western battle has been going on for 110 years, from Liverpool's first home crown under Tom Watson in 1900-01. United got off the mark seven seasons later. Throughout Ferguson's formative years, the Liverpool sides managed by Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan and finally Kenny Dalglish were pre-eminent, stirring in the young United manager a single early obsession: to "knock Liverpool off their bloody perch", as he said when that process was already well under way.
    "So, you're down to have a look at our great team?" Shankly asked Ferguson when his fellow Scot turned up at Anfield on a scouting mission. For Carlo Ancelotti's counterpart on Sunday, Liverpool were always the royalty he would have to usurp. The obsession shifted when the red half of Merseyside fell away after their most recent league title win, in 1990, and first Arsenal under Arsène Wenger then Chelsea with Roman Abramovich's money became the new antagonists. But Ferguson has never taken his eye off Liverpool. The 2001 cup treble under Gérard Houllier made him wary and the Rafael Benítez team of 2008-09 came within four points of United in May at the top of the league table.
    Spookily, Dalglish is back in charge of Liverpool at the point Ferguson looks likely to reach 19 (or 12 for him personally), with United's supporters unanimous that winning this season's Premier League would mean even more to them than beating Barcelona in the Champions League final. The Liverpool factor is at the heart of that emotional calculation. But if United were to win at Wembley three weekends from now, they would move to four European Cups, only one behind Liverpool. Targets still glitter on the horizon for Ferguson but they are thinning out.
    To replace Liverpool as England's most prolific club would leave only Europe for him to break new ground. Victory over Barça would bring him level with Paisley's three European Cups. It would be a mistake, though, to assume Ferguson has a target list he is ticking off, or that the date of his retirement will be determined by trophy counts or bragging rights over other clubs.
    The 19th title is a fixation, certainly, but he would still be in charge at Old Trafford this weekend if it had been achieved two seasons ago, because his reasoning now is that there would have to be an inarguable reason to call a halt, other than ill health, or other family considerations. He stopped thinking long ago about ages (60, 65) as landmarks that would dictate the length of his stay. His current logic is that he is surrounded by fine young players again – in a fast developing team – and that there is no reason to walk away from that while the thrill of the reconstruction is still there.
    "I am just concentrating on the three league games and Sunday is the most important one," he says. "You have to set the European Cup final aside. I said months ago that Chelsea would be our biggest threat. Nobody seemed to be listening but they had the experience and the strength to come through.
    "For the last seven or eight years they have been our main challengers. They won the title twice, then we won three in a row and then they snatched it back and now we have this game.
    "Ours was the biggest result of the week, getting into the final of the European Cup, there is no question about that. The European Cup is the trophy Chelsea wanted most of all and we knocked them out of that. We have played them three times, beaten them twice, and everyone knows what happened at Stamford Bridge [when Ferguson objected to the referee Martin Atkinson's decisions]. In terms of these games this season I think we have been the better team. We have to prove that again."
    Invited to compare the United-Chelsea duopoly to that of Barcelona and Real Madrid, Ferguson says: "It's a different culture, isn't it? Real Madrid and Barcelona was tribalism of the highest order. I was surprised how disappointing the two games were. You were waiting for one of them to be decent but we didn't get that. It is a different culture here, there are no real issues between us and Chelsea in terms of history whereas with Real Madrid and Barcelona history is a huge issue.
    "Both teams will be committed, there is no doubt about that. It won't be easy for either side. We are used to this last-ditch stage of the season.
    "We have won three titles on the last day of the season – at Middlesbrough [1996], home to Tottenham [1999] and at Wigan [2008]. We always go to the last kick of the ball, although there was a time in 2000 and 2001 when we won by landslides, but in the main we are used to going to the last game of the season. We are used to it and so are the fans. Their fingernails are bitten away anyway. We should be all right with our experience. Chelsea have to win; a draw is of no use to them."
    In this season alone Ferguson has had to manage the Wayne Rooney transfer-request drama, Antonio Valencia's broken leg and persistent injuries to Rio Ferdinand but has drawn improvements from Anderson (intermittently), Nani, Rafael, Fábio, Chris Smalling and most of all Javier Hernández. In this fixture last year United were on their way out of Europe, having lost the first leg of their quarter-final to Bayern Munich, and Ferguson says: "We were running on empty. In the first half you could sense our legs had definitely gone. Now we have given ourselves a chance by resting players against Schalke. The only one who was involved in both the Schalke and Arsenal games was Valencia and he only played half an hour against Arsenal. Because he's as strong as a bull, he'll be OK. I'm forgetting [Edwin] Van der Sar but he is Van der Sar, there are no issues with that."
    In one grand twist Ferguson has relied on a Liverpudlian (or Evertonian, strictly) to place Anfield's joint record of 18 titles in jeopardy. His handling of Rooney during an apparently agent-driven kerfuffle in mid-season provided more evidence for Ferguson that he is still master of a cosmopolitan side.
    "I think everyone who gets on that pitch will be wired up for it. I've had the advantage of resting my team on Wednesday," Ferguson says. "I needed to do that. I've got them where I want them." Which is what he must be thinking about Liverpool.

 
Manchester United v Chelsea, Premier League, 4.10pm Sunday 8 May

Sir Alex Ferguson's Manchester United ready to pull clear of Liverpool

The prospect of a record 19th title makes today's match against Chelsea mean far more than the average top-of-the-table clash



  • Manchester-United-v-Schal-007.jpg
    Sir Alex Ferguson has wanted to 'knock Liverpool off their bloody perch' since arriving at Manchester United in 1986. Photograph: Michael Regan/Getty Images

    Six years ago on Tuesday a Chelsea side with Carlo Cudicini, Robert Huth, Tiago and Geremi were granted a guard of honour at Old Trafford as the league title made its journey to Stamford Bridge for the first time in 50 years.
    Since then Manchester United and Chelsea have passed the championship between each other as if by right. But a much longer struggle re-presents itself when the two clubs collide today. When Sir Alex Ferguson steamed into Manchester in November 1986, United had won the old First Division title seven times from 1908 to 1967. Liverpool had been the top team in England on 16 occasions. Today the score is 18 each, and a win for United over Chelsea this afternoon would almost guarantee their investiture as the country's No1.
    This north-western battle has been going on for 110 years, from Liverpool's first home crown under Tom Watson in 1900-01. United got off the mark seven seasons later. Throughout Ferguson's formative years, the Liverpool sides managed by Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan and finally Kenny Dalglish were pre-eminent, stirring in the young United manager a single early obsession: to "knock Liverpool off their bloody perch", as he said when that process was already well under way.
    "So, you're down to have a look at our great team?" Shankly asked Ferguson when his fellow Scot turned up at Anfield on a scouting mission. For Carlo Ancelotti's counterpart on Sunday, Liverpool were always the royalty he would have to usurp. The obsession shifted when the red half of Merseyside fell away after their most recent league title win, in 1990, and first Arsenal under Arsène Wenger then Chelsea with Roman Abramovich's money became the new antagonists. But Ferguson has never taken his eye off Liverpool. The 2001 cup treble under Gérard Houllier made him wary and the Rafael Benítez team of 2008-09 came within four points of United in May at the top of the league table.
    Spookily, Dalglish is back in charge of Liverpool at the point Ferguson looks likely to reach 19 (or 12 for him personally), with United's supporters unanimous that winning this season's Premier League would mean even more to them than beating Barcelona in the Champions League final. The Liverpool factor is at the heart of that emotional calculation. But if United were to win at Wembley three weekends from now, they would move to four European Cups, only one behind Liverpool. Targets still glitter on the horizon for Ferguson but they are thinning out.
    To replace Liverpool as England's most prolific club would leave only Europe for him to break new ground. Victory over Barça would bring him level with Paisley's three European Cups. It would be a mistake, though, to assume Ferguson has a target list he is ticking off, or that the date of his retirement will be determined by trophy counts or bragging rights over other clubs.
    The 19th title is a fixation, certainly, but he would still be in charge at Old Trafford this weekend if it had been achieved two seasons ago, because his reasoning now is that there would have to be an inarguable reason to call a halt, other than ill health, or other family considerations. He stopped thinking long ago about ages (60, 65) as landmarks that would dictate the length of his stay. His current logic is that he is surrounded by fine young players again – in a fast developing team – and that there is no reason to walk away from that while the thrill of the reconstruction is still there.
    "I am just concentrating on the three league games and Sunday is the most important one," he says. "You have to set the European Cup final aside. I said months ago that Chelsea would be our biggest threat. Nobody seemed to be listening but they had the experience and the strength to come through.
    "For the last seven or eight years they have been our main challengers. They won the title twice, then we won three in a row and then they snatched it back and now we have this game.
    "Ours was the biggest result of the week, getting into the final of the European Cup, there is no question about that. The European Cup is the trophy Chelsea wanted most of all and we knocked them out of that. We have played them three times, beaten them twice, and everyone knows what happened at Stamford Bridge [when Ferguson objected to the referee Martin Atkinson's decisions]. In terms of these games this season I think we have been the better team. We have to prove that again."
    Invited to compare the United-Chelsea duopoly to that of Barcelona and Real Madrid, Ferguson says: "It's a different culture, isn't it? Real Madrid and Barcelona was tribalism of the highest order. I was surprised how disappointing the two games were. You were waiting for one of them to be decent but we didn't get that. It is a different culture here, there are no real issues between us and Chelsea in terms of history whereas with Real Madrid and Barcelona history is a huge issue.
    "Both teams will be committed, there is no doubt about that. It won't be easy for either side. We are used to this last-ditch stage of the season.
    "We have won three titles on the last day of the season – at Middlesbrough [1996], home to Tottenham [1999] and at Wigan [2008]. We always go to the last kick of the ball, although there was a time in 2000 and 2001 when we won by landslides, but in the main we are used to going to the last game of the season. We are used to it and so are the fans. Their fingernails are bitten away anyway. We should be all right with our experience. Chelsea have to win; a draw is of no use to them."
    In this season alone Ferguson has had to manage the Wayne Rooney transfer-request drama, Antonio Valencia's broken leg and persistent injuries to Rio Ferdinand but has drawn improvements from Anderson (intermittently), Nani, Rafael, Fábio, Chris Smalling and most of all Javier Hernández. In this fixture last year United were on their way out of Europe, having lost the first leg of their quarter-final to Bayern Munich, and Ferguson says: "We were running on empty. In the first half you could sense our legs had definitely gone. Now we have given ourselves a chance by resting players against Schalke. The only one who was involved in both the Schalke and Arsenal games was Valencia and he only played half an hour against Arsenal. Because he's as strong as a bull, he'll be OK. I'm forgetting [Edwin] Van der Sar but he is Van der Sar, there are no issues with that."
    In one grand twist Ferguson has relied on a Liverpudlian (or Evertonian, strictly) to place Anfield's joint record of 18 titles in jeopardy. His handling of Rooney during an apparently agent-driven kerfuffle in mid-season provided more evidence for Ferguson that he is still master of a cosmopolitan side.
    "I think everyone who gets on that pitch will be wired up for it. I've had the advantage of resting my team on Wednesday," Ferguson says. "I needed to do that. I've got them where I want them." Which is what he must be thinking about Liverpool.

 
Manchester United v Chelsea, Premier League, 4.10pm Sunday 8 May

Sir Alex Ferguson would be astonished if Carlo Ancelotti was sacked

• 'You cannot question' Ancelotti's record, says Ferguson
• Chelsea manager will discuss his future after final league game




  • Dominic Fifield and Tim Rich
  • The Observer, Sunday 8 May 2011 <li class="history">Article history
    Manchester-United-v-Chels-007.jpg
    The Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, would be amazed if Carlo Ancelotti was fired by Chelsea. Photograph: Paul Gilham/Getty Images

    Sir Alex Ferguson believes it would constitute "an astonishing decision" if Chelsea chose to relieve Carlo Ancelotti of his duties at the end of the season, with the Italian set to discuss his future at Stamford Bridge in the week after the final round of Premier League fixtures.
    Ancelotti takes his side to Old Trafford on Sunday aiming to extend Chelsea's title defence by becoming the first opposing team to win at Manchester United this season. Victory would see the visitors leapfrog Ferguson's side to go top with just two fixtures to play, yet even the retention of the championship is not guaranteed to keep the Italian in his job in south-west London.
    Roman Abramovich &#8211; dismayed by a mid-season slump that saw 10 points gleaned in 11 matches and United eliminate Chelsea from the Champions League at the quarter-final stage &#8211; and his chief executive, Ron Gourlay, are to review Ancelotti's position with the manager expecting talks to take place immediately after the final-day fixture at Everton. "We will see after the end of the season, maybe the week after," he said. "That's what they've said to me. That's when we will speak about the future."
    Asked whether it was really possible for a manager, who had claimed a league and FA Cup Double in his first season in the English game, to be sacked within hours of claiming the title, Ancelotti added: "In Italy, it's happened. I would like to stay. But I am very quiet and calm about it. At the end of the season, the club will take a decision. If they consider my job to have been good, I will stay. If not, they can change. But, for now, the problem is not whether I stay or if I go. It's whether we win at Manchester [United]."
    His anticipated departure would amaze Ferguson, who claimed his first Double in 1994 but won no silverware the following year, prompting the sale of high-profile players such as Paul Ince, Mark Hughes and Andrei Kanchelskis.
    "He has done well," the United manager said of Ancelotti. "I don't know where that atmosphere [of uncertainty] around him comes from, but it always seems to be there. The rumour mill at Chelsea seems to be working overtime, but the guy has won two European titles, he has won the Scudetto, and the Double with Chelsea, so you cannot question that record.
    "Being knocked out of Europe affected them, but I cannot understand these stories [that Ancelotti will be fired even if he wins the league]. It would seem quite an astonishing decision. It is the rumour mill that happens in football. It sometimes comes from agents, sometimes it comes from people inside a club. But he has held his dignity well, he really has, and I do not see why he should have to answer the question [about his future]."
    Abramovich has long coveted the European Cup, a trophy he had come so close to claiming with José Mourinho, Avram Grant and Guus Hiddink in charge. The appointment of Ancelotti, who had won the competition twice with Milan, partly reflected that desire with the reality that Chelsea have lost all four knock-out ties &#8211; against Mourinho's Internazionale last season and Ferguson's United last month &#8211; under the Italian a source of intense frustration at Stamford Bridge.
    Chelsea are expected to drop their £50m signing Fernando Torres to the bench on Sunday with the visitors all too aware that defeat would effectively hand the title to United. "They have an opportunity to win it against us, but we don't want to see the celebrations of United," Ancelotti said. "Maybe, if they really have to win the title, they will have to postpone the celebrations until the next game."

 
Manchester United v Chelsea, Premier League, 4.10pm Sunday 8 May

Sir Alex Ferguson would be astonished if Carlo Ancelotti was sacked

• 'You cannot question' Ancelotti's record, says Ferguson
• Chelsea manager will discuss his future after final league game




  • Dominic Fifield and Tim Rich
  • The Observer, Sunday 8 May 2011 <li class="history">Article history
    Manchester-United-v-Chels-007.jpg
    The Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, would be amazed if Carlo Ancelotti was fired by Chelsea. Photograph: Paul Gilham/Getty Images

    Sir Alex Ferguson believes it would constitute "an astonishing decision" if Chelsea chose to relieve Carlo Ancelotti of his duties at the end of the season, with the Italian set to discuss his future at Stamford Bridge in the week after the final round of Premier League fixtures.
    Ancelotti takes his side to Old Trafford on Sunday aiming to extend Chelsea's title defence by becoming the first opposing team to win at Manchester United this season. Victory would see the visitors leapfrog Ferguson's side to go top with just two fixtures to play, yet even the retention of the championship is not guaranteed to keep the Italian in his job in south-west London.
    Roman Abramovich – dismayed by a mid-season slump that saw 10 points gleaned in 11 matches and United eliminate Chelsea from the Champions League at the quarter-final stage – and his chief executive, Ron Gourlay, are to review Ancelotti's position with the manager expecting talks to take place immediately after the final-day fixture at Everton. "We will see after the end of the season, maybe the week after," he said. "That's what they've said to me. That's when we will speak about the future."
    Asked whether it was really possible for a manager, who had claimed a league and FA Cup Double in his first season in the English game, to be sacked within hours of claiming the title, Ancelotti added: "In Italy, it's happened. I would like to stay. But I am very quiet and calm about it. At the end of the season, the club will take a decision. If they consider my job to have been good, I will stay. If not, they can change. But, for now, the problem is not whether I stay or if I go. It's whether we win at Manchester [United]."
    His anticipated departure would amaze Ferguson, who claimed his first Double in 1994 but won no silverware the following year, prompting the sale of high-profile players such as Paul Ince, Mark Hughes and Andrei Kanchelskis.
    "He has done well," the United manager said of Ancelotti. "I don't know where that atmosphere [of uncertainty] around him comes from, but it always seems to be there. The rumour mill at Chelsea seems to be working overtime, but the guy has won two European titles, he has won the Scudetto, and the Double with Chelsea, so you cannot question that record.
    "Being knocked out of Europe affected them, but I cannot understand these stories [that Ancelotti will be fired even if he wins the league]. It would seem quite an astonishing decision. It is the rumour mill that happens in football. It sometimes comes from agents, sometimes it comes from people inside a club. But he has held his dignity well, he really has, and I do not see why he should have to answer the question [about his future]."
    Abramovich has long coveted the European Cup, a trophy he had come so close to claiming with José Mourinho, Avram Grant and Guus Hiddink in charge. The appointment of Ancelotti, who had won the competition twice with Milan, partly reflected that desire with the reality that Chelsea have lost all four knock-out ties – against Mourinho's Internazionale last season and Ferguson's United last month – under the Italian a source of intense frustration at Stamford Bridge.
    Chelsea are expected to drop their £50m signing Fernando Torres to the bench on Sunday with the visitors all too aware that defeat would effectively hand the title to United. "They have an opportunity to win it against us, but we don't want to see the celebrations of United," Ancelotti said. "Maybe, if they really have to win the title, they will have to postpone the celebrations until the next game."
 
Manchester United v Chelsea, Sunday 8 May, 4.10pm

Sir Alex Ferguson welcomes appointment of Howard Webb for Chelsea game

&#8226; 'He's definitely the best referee in the country,' says Ferguson
&#8226; Webb has given United three penalties in last four home games




  • Daniel Taylor
  • guardian.co.uk, Friday 6 May 2011 22.30 BST <li class="history">Article history
    Howard-Webb-007.jpg
    Sir Alex Ferguson is pleased Howard Webb will be in charge for the clash between Manchester United and Chelsea. Photograph: John Clifton/Action Images

    Sir Alex Ferguson has gone against the Football Association's guidelines not to talk about referees before matches by welcoming Howard Webb's appointment to Manchester United's match against Chelsea and speaking of his hope that "it's our turn for a little bit of luck" from the officials.
    As part of the FA's Respect campaign, managers are not supposed to discuss referees in the buildup to games. However, Ferguson believes his side have been the victim of some poor decisions in their recent matches against Chelsea and was open about his concerns that it might happen again. "That's definitely our big fear, to be honest with you. Other than that, we have the players to do it all right."
    Webb has awarded United a penalty in three of the past four games he has officiated at Old Trafford and Ferguson made a point of talking up the Yorkshireman. "He's definitely the best referee in the country, there's no doubt about that. We are getting the best referee and we hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck."
    The United manager is still aggrieved about Martin Atkinson's performance when the sides met at Stamford Bridge in March, Chelsea coming from a goal down to win 2-1 on a night when Ferguson felt refereeing decisions had swung the game in favour of the champions.
    Ferguson was subsequently banned from the touchline for five matches after castigating Atkinson in a post-match interview, saying he should never have been appointed because the occasion had demanded a "fair" referee.
    "The result against us was a change for them [Chelsea]," he said. "We all know the circumstances of that game. That game gave them their lift, from being out of the game to winning it. And, of course, us losing on Sunday has opened the door for them."

 
Manchester United v Chelsea, Sunday 8 May, 4.10pm

Sir Alex Ferguson welcomes appointment of Howard Webb for Chelsea game

• 'He's definitely the best referee in the country,' says Ferguson
• Webb has given United three penalties in last four home games




  • Daniel Taylor
  • guardian.co.uk, Friday 6 May 2011 22.30 BST <li class="history">Article history
    Howard-Webb-007.jpg
    Sir Alex Ferguson is pleased Howard Webb will be in charge for the clash between Manchester United and Chelsea. Photograph: John Clifton/Action Images

    Sir Alex Ferguson has gone against the Football Association's guidelines not to talk about referees before matches by welcoming Howard Webb's appointment to Manchester United's match against Chelsea and speaking of his hope that "it's our turn for a little bit of luck" from the officials.
    As part of the FA's Respect campaign, managers are not supposed to discuss referees in the buildup to games. However, Ferguson believes his side have been the victim of some poor decisions in their recent matches against Chelsea and was open about his concerns that it might happen again. "That's definitely our big fear, to be honest with you. Other than that, we have the players to do it all right."
    Webb has awarded United a penalty in three of the past four games he has officiated at Old Trafford and Ferguson made a point of talking up the Yorkshireman. "He's definitely the best referee in the country, there's no doubt about that. We are getting the best referee and we hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck."
    The United manager is still aggrieved about Martin Atkinson's performance when the sides met at Stamford Bridge in March, Chelsea coming from a goal down to win 2-1 on a night when Ferguson felt refereeing decisions had swung the game in favour of the champions.
    Ferguson was subsequently banned from the touchline for five matches after castigating Atkinson in a post-match interview, saying he should never have been appointed because the occasion had demanded a "fair" referee.
    "The result against us was a change for them [Chelsea]," he said. "We all know the circumstances of that game. That game gave them their lift, from being out of the game to winning it. And, of course, us losing on Sunday has opened the door for them."
 
Barcelona's bad acting will not be welcome against Manchester United

Spanish side like to roll around as much as the English like to tackle hard, but neither will have the moral high ground at Wembley



  • Barcelona-v-Real-Madrid-007.jpg
    Referee Frank de Bleeckere tries to keep the peace between Real Madrid and Barcelona at Camp Nou. Photograph: Javier Soriano/AFP/Getty Images

    In his earliest days at Manchester United, Cristiano Ronaldo would react to tackles on the training ground with a yelp and sometimes a quick roll on the ground. His new team-mates &#8211; Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs among them &#8211; took him aside and advised him to be less theatrical: not out of righteousness, but because they knew it was the wrong signal for him to send to opponents in the Premier League.
    Ronaldo soon learned that amateur dramatics were a bad idea, because they incensed opposing fans, incited the media and encouraged the other team to kick chunks out of him and then call him effete for overreacting. There was the odd easy tumble to win a penalty but by the end he was a macho, domineering presence in the contact areas. A measure of Ronaldo's eminence is that he has thrived not only in La Liga but here in England, where his courage and tenacity are among our memories of him as he matured into a warrior.
    Now cut to the image of him brushing Barcelona's Gerard Piqué in Tuesday night's Champions League semi-final second leg and then falling on to Javier Mascherano: a sequence that caused the referee to disallow a Real Madrid goal. This was Ronaldo operating on the edge of the culture he now plays in: a league where the attacking player is always inviting the match officials to punish defenders for challenges that might pass unnoticed here in rough-and-tumble England.
    The news from Iberia is that Spanish football folk think the English have a nerve to pontificate about cheating. Last week in the home of the world champions there was incredulity at the level of condemnation from Premier League spectators after Barcelona and Real had served up a European tie that was part fiesta, part drama workshop.
    To many in Europe, England is the home of the leg-breaking tackle, the two-footed karate leap and sanctimony over diving, which, they claim, occurs just as frequently in the Premier League but is exposed only when perpetrated by foreigners. That part is not fair. Diving is always flagged by the public and media in this country but it may be true that some England internationals are denounced less vehemently.
    Judgments in football are warped by allegiance, and tribalism, so some Barcelona fans are still not willing to countenance the accusation that their team has a theatrical streak. Instead they blame the antics of Dani Alves, Pedro and Sergio Busquets on the macho tackling of Real Madrid.
    Quite why two propositions cannot be true at once in the world's favourite game is my favourite mystery. Yes, Madrid tried to kick Barça out of the competition, and yes, some of Pep Guardiola's men responded by turning the tie into an audition for a war film.
    Spanish football is right to diagnose English distaste for the particular sin of exaggerating the weight of blow, rolling on the grass and clutching the face as if it has just been rearranged by a juggernaut. All across Premier League grounds fans chuntered about bad acting in the Barça-Real games. Which begs the question: is there a moral order of cheating, and does English football have any right to look down on it from Olympus?
    Not with Nigel de Jong on the loose, no. Or Lee Cattermole. Not when Eduardo, Aaron Ramsey and Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa have seen their legs mangled by "challenges" that express the hype and mania of the English game.
    Nor is "simulation" hardly absent from our fixtures. Sometimes Didier Drogba stays on the turf so long you wonder whether he is having a siesta.
    Old Dicky Attenborough, a Chelsea life-president, must admire the ease with which Drogba slips into character. Blackburn's Morten Gamst Pedersen is among those who tried the new trick of hooking his foot round a defender's leg in full flight to make a fall inevitable and so deceive the referee.
    All across the Premier League officials now need to be detectives and assess intent, but without the tools that allow the armchair viewers to spot skulduggery. But that should not stop us wondering how Barcelona will approach the Champions League final against Manchester United, a fellow "footballing" side who are unlikely to employ force as a weapon, unless the Scholes radar malfunctions again, or José Antonio Reyes turns up in a Barça shirt.
    Our sensitivity to the tomfoolery in Guardiola's team is pious, to some degree, and maybe hypocritical (Spain would say), but it remains right to abhor the theatricality of Busquets, for example, who violates the spirit of the game. In the semi-final Barcelona could use the excuse that they needed protection from Real's violence. Nonsense, of course. A player who grips his face when his arm has been tapped is not calling for help from the police. He is conning every one of us.
    So there is not much for Barcelona to add to their manifesto for us to swoon even more. But in England, Spain or anywhere, people are entitled to hope the small core of actors in the world's best side will now hand in their Equity cards.

 
Barcelona's bad acting will not be welcome against Manchester United

Spanish side like to roll around as much as the English like to tackle hard, but neither will have the moral high ground at Wembley



  • Barcelona-v-Real-Madrid-007.jpg
    Referee Frank de Bleeckere tries to keep the peace between Real Madrid and Barcelona at Camp Nou. Photograph: Javier Soriano/AFP/Getty Images

    In his earliest days at Manchester United, Cristiano Ronaldo would react to tackles on the training ground with a yelp and sometimes a quick roll on the ground. His new team-mates – Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs among them – took him aside and advised him to be less theatrical: not out of righteousness, but because they knew it was the wrong signal for him to send to opponents in the Premier League.
    Ronaldo soon learned that amateur dramatics were a bad idea, because they incensed opposing fans, incited the media and encouraged the other team to kick chunks out of him and then call him effete for overreacting. There was the odd easy tumble to win a penalty but by the end he was a macho, domineering presence in the contact areas. A measure of Ronaldo's eminence is that he has thrived not only in La Liga but here in England, where his courage and tenacity are among our memories of him as he matured into a warrior.
    Now cut to the image of him brushing Barcelona's Gerard Piqué in Tuesday night's Champions League semi-final second leg and then falling on to Javier Mascherano: a sequence that caused the referee to disallow a Real Madrid goal. This was Ronaldo operating on the edge of the culture he now plays in: a league where the attacking player is always inviting the match officials to punish defenders for challenges that might pass unnoticed here in rough-and-tumble England.
    The news from Iberia is that Spanish football folk think the English have a nerve to pontificate about cheating. Last week in the home of the world champions there was incredulity at the level of condemnation from Premier League spectators after Barcelona and Real had served up a European tie that was part fiesta, part drama workshop.
    To many in Europe, England is the home of the leg-breaking tackle, the two-footed karate leap and sanctimony over diving, which, they claim, occurs just as frequently in the Premier League but is exposed only when perpetrated by foreigners. That part is not fair. Diving is always flagged by the public and media in this country but it may be true that some England internationals are denounced less vehemently.
    Judgments in football are warped by allegiance, and tribalism, so some Barcelona fans are still not willing to countenance the accusation that their team has a theatrical streak. Instead they blame the antics of Dani Alves, Pedro and Sergio Busquets on the macho tackling of Real Madrid.
    Quite why two propositions cannot be true at once in the world's favourite game is my favourite mystery. Yes, Madrid tried to kick Barça out of the competition, and yes, some of Pep Guardiola's men responded by turning the tie into an audition for a war film.
    Spanish football is right to diagnose English distaste for the particular sin of exaggerating the weight of blow, rolling on the grass and clutching the face as if it has just been rearranged by a juggernaut. All across Premier League grounds fans chuntered about bad acting in the Barça-Real games. Which begs the question: is there a moral order of cheating, and does English football have any right to look down on it from Olympus?
    Not with Nigel de Jong on the loose, no. Or Lee Cattermole. Not when Eduardo, Aaron Ramsey and Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa have seen their legs mangled by "challenges" that express the hype and mania of the English game.
    Nor is "simulation" hardly absent from our fixtures. Sometimes Didier Drogba stays on the turf so long you wonder whether he is having a siesta.
    Old Dicky Attenborough, a Chelsea life-president, must admire the ease with which Drogba slips into character. Blackburn's Morten Gamst Pedersen is among those who tried the new trick of hooking his foot round a defender's leg in full flight to make a fall inevitable and so deceive the referee.
    All across the Premier League officials now need to be detectives and assess intent, but without the tools that allow the armchair viewers to spot skulduggery. But that should not stop us wondering how Barcelona will approach the Champions League final against Manchester United, a fellow "footballing" side who are unlikely to employ force as a weapon, unless the Scholes radar malfunctions again, or José Antonio Reyes turns up in a Barça shirt.
    Our sensitivity to the tomfoolery in Guardiola's team is pious, to some degree, and maybe hypocritical (Spain would say), but it remains right to abhor the theatricality of Busquets, for example, who violates the spirit of the game. In the semi-final Barcelona could use the excuse that they needed protection from Real's violence. Nonsense, of course. A player who grips his face when his arm has been tapped is not calling for help from the police. He is conning every one of us.
    So there is not much for Barcelona to add to their manifesto for us to swoon even more. But in England, Spain or anywhere, people are entitled to hope the small core of actors in the world's best side will now hand in their Equity cards.

 
Leo tukiwafunga awa wahuni ni ushindi dhidi ra Fat Arses, Liva, Man City, Barca na haters woooote wa Manure bila kuwasahau plastic fans wa Bluz wenyewe...

GLory Glory United!
 
Leo ni leo, nilifua jezi yangu ya manchester ili nivae tutakapoenda kuwasulubisha wanaojifanya wajuaji wa chelsea, ila na hii mvua haijakauka hivo nimeianika nyuma ya fridge.
Hureeee viva manchester na mashabiki wake dunia nzima. lazima tuwatoe kamasi hawa mabwana wadogo leo.Hureee uwanja wa nyumbani jamani
 
Leo ni leo, nilifua jezi yangu ya manchester ili nivae tutakapoenda kuwasulubisha wanaojifanya wajuaji wa chelsea, ila na hii mvua haijakauka hivo nimeianika nyuma ya fridge.
Hureeee viva manchester na mashabiki wake dunia nzima. lazima tuwatoe kamasi hawa mabwana wadogo leo.Hureee uwanja wa nyumbani jamani
Mimi ni mpenzi wa Arsenal na nilipenda sana leo Chelsea ishinde....lakini ukweli ni kwamba ni vigumu sana kuifunga Man u nyumbani,so iwe isiwe Man u ni lazima watashinda tu.....na pia sina ubishi kuwa ubingwa huu ni wenu Man united. Lakini nathubutu kusema tar 28 may mutafungwa na Barca kama mmesimama na hilo halina ubishi kabisa.....chungeni ndimi zenu mapema dhidi ya mechi yenu na Barca
 
Mimi ni mpenzi wa Arsenal na nilipenda sana leo Chelsea ishinde....lakini ukweli ni kwamba ni vigumu sana kuifunga Man u nyumbani,so iwe isiwe Man u ni lazima watashinda tu.....na pia sina ubishi kuwa ubingwa huu ni wenu Man united. Lakini nathubutu kusema tar 28 may mutafungwa na Barca kama mmesimama na hilo halina ubishi kabisa.....chungeni ndimi zenu mapema dhidi ya mechi yenu na Barca
Sawa mkuu ahsante kwa kusema leo tutafunga nashukuru umeligundua hilo mapema ila huyo barca nae tutamshangaza sana we subiria tu
 
Sawa mkuu ahsante kwa kusema leo tutafunga nashukuru umeligundua hilo mapema ila huyo barca nae tutamshangaza sana we subiria tu
Dada kwa Barca sahau kabisa! Hivi unaikumbuka national team iliyochukua world cup 2010 South Africa? kama unaikumbuka basi ujue
ile team ilikuwa na wachezaji 9 wa Barcelona. Kwa sasa Barca ndiyo team ya taifa ya kwao na pia ni club ya mji wa Barcelona. Je unazijua
mashini za play station 2,3,4 za sony? kama unazujua basi hazina tofauti na team ya Barcelona.....wachezaji wa Barca ni play station 4 za sony. Kwasasahivi hapa duniani hakuna team yeyote ambayo tunaweza kuifananaisha na Barca....kuifunga Barca kunahitaji miujiza 2 - je,unaijua?
 
Leo ni leo, nilifua jezi yangu ya manchester ili nivae tutakapoenda kuwasulubisha wanaojifanya wajuaji wa chelsea, ila na hii mvua haijakauka hivo nimeianika nyuma ya fridge.
Hureeee viva manchester na mashabiki wake dunia nzima. lazima tuwatoe kamasi hawa mabwana wadogo leo.Hureee uwanja wa nyumbani jamani
Hureeee!!!
 
subirin kichapo kwanza,halafu ole wenu msionekani hapa........
 
Dada kwa Barca sahau kabisa! Hivi unaikumbuka national team iliyochukua world cup 2010 South Africa? kama unaikumbuka basi ujue
ile team ilikuwa na wachezaji 9 wa Barcelona. Kwa sasa Barca ndiyo team ya taifa ya kwao na pia ni club ya mji wa Barcelona. Je unazijua
mashini za play station 2,3,4 za sony? kama unazujua basi hazina tofauti na team ya Barcelona.....wachezaji wa Barca ni play station 4 za sony. Kwasasahivi hapa duniani hakuna team yeyote ambayo tunaweza kuifananaisha na Barca....kuifunga Barca kunahitaji miujiza 2 - je,unaijua?
But still the red devil can do wonder, nina imani watawashinda tu
 
Leo ni leo, nilifua jezi yangu ya manchester ili nivae tutakapoenda kuwasulubisha wanaojifanya wajuaji wa chelsea, ila na hii mvua haijakauka hivo nimeianika nyuma ya fridge.
Hureeee viva manchester na mashabiki wake dunia nzima. lazima tuwatoe kamasi hawa mabwana wadogo leo.Hureee uwanja wa nyumbani jamani
Ukitaka ikauke haraka ianike ndani ya friji ili uwahi kushuhudia mkifungwa leo
 
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