Magufuli didn’t ban all forms of politics...

[Lyamber]

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You have it right. And to round up this matter, let me say this: A person elected as an MP through constituency X can only claim a political locus standi as as an MP for that and only that constituency. The same logic applies to councillors.

Sasa kama ni hivyo mwenye uwezo wa kusema fulani hana locus standi ni mahakama sasa mbona anaesema hio hoja si mahakama....

 

[Simplicity.]

Kutumikia tumbo kwa style hii ni sharti ujitoe ufahamu kwelikweli!

 

[LENDEYSON]

Magufuli didn’t ban all forms of politics ​

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On 23 June 2016, President Magufuli of Tanzania discouraged direct political discourses which prevailed during the general elections as political contestants from various political parties were competing for key offices.

In the alternative, he encouraged indirect political discourses through the parliament, district councils and ward development councils, where the elected politicians can compete through formal arguments, both written and oral. He said nothing about direct democracy at the Local Government Authority level. (Check the video: Video)

The next morning, it was too obvious that the most active segment of the civil society--the media-- either misunderstood the logic of the President’s statement or deliberately engaged in self-misdirection for ulterior motives.

For example, Mtanzania daily newspaper reported, “Mafufuli: Hakuna siasa mpaka 2020,” literally meaning, “Magufuli says no politics until 2020.” All other media houses fell into the same unethical trap of public disinformation through the fallacy of equivocation.

In the same spirit of equivocative communication, Zitto Katwe, the ACT-Wazalendo Supreme leader slammed the President for declaring a war on multiparty democracy by allegedly banning all forms of political discourse. Professor Kitila Mkumbo too, through his recent article in Raia Mwema newspaper, has accused the President of virtually banning all forms of political discourse until 2020.

As a result of this widespread misrepresentation of the Presidents statements, the general public has ultimately been made to believe the same—that, the President has banned all forms of political discourse until 2020.

Due to this disinformation through the Tanzania’s media, Chadema’s youth wing (BAVICHA) and CCM’s youth wings (UVCCM) are now in a fierce linguistic war as to whether the forthcoming CCM’s national convention is violative of the president’s directive or not. BAVICHA believes holding the convention will violate the president’s directive, while UVCCM thinks not. I think UVCCM is right and BAVICHA is wrong. Let me explain.

When the president said that “electoral politics are over” he rightly banned direct political discourses at a national level. He did not ban indirect political discourses both at a national and sub-national levels. National conventions and other indoor meetings in accordance with the constitutions of political parties are not direct political discourses. Thus they were not banned by the president.

It is my hope that, this line of reasoning will most probably stand out clearly if we look at the definition of the word “politics.”

MY DEFINITION OF POLITICS

According to the Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-tung, “Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed.” And according to the Prussian General Karl von Clausewitz, “War is nothing but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means.”

While the relationship between war and politics is often quite close, there is a world of difference between political and violent means to achieve one’s objectives. But recognizing how close these two essential human dynamics are to each other should elevate our appreciation for the importance of a healthy and robust politics in our societies and lives.

For this reason, I will take the word “politics” to refer to any process whereby two or more persons decide, through persuasion and without resorting to physical violence, who gets what value, when, where, how, and why.

In this definition, the keyword "value" means any sought-after value in life. It refers to any object, activity, idea, principle, goal, or other phenomenon upon which large numbers of people place appreciable value, something which is considered by many individuals and groups within the political community to be good, desirable, attractive, useful, rewarding, beneficial, or advantageous.

One set of values may be tangible, or material, in form, that is, in the form of money, property, or other economic goods, services, and conditions. Another set of values may be intangible; that is, the values may be symbolic, ideological, cultural, ethical, moral, or religious in character.

Examples of intangible values in politics include the expressed goals of political activists who assert that they are concerned primarily with "social" or "family" issues, that they seek mainly to promote and defend "social" or "family" values.

The keyword “WHO” refers to the winner-loser-contestant in a political conflict, for example, Magufuli versus Lowasa in an electoral contest, MP’s versus MP’s in a medicare budget fight, two or more aspiring managers in a match of office politics, or a neighborhood civic group versus a real estate developer in a community zoning dispute.

The keyword “WHAT” relates to the stakes in the battle, for example, preservation of an endangered species in an environmental politics fight, creation of a voting district designed to empower a particular group in a redistricting process, or custody of the family dog in the personal politics surrounding a contested divorce.

The keyword “WHEN” suggests that timing often can be a critical element in determining the achievement of a political goal. For example, maneuvering one’s boss for a pay raise will be a lot more difficult after an unfavorable earnings report; promoting passage of a death penalty statute may be substantially more successful after a grisly and callous murder.

The keyword “WHERE” indicates that political possibilities may differ from one terrain to the next. For example, passing gay rights legislation in America will be easier than in conservative Tanzania; locating a halfway house for substance abusers in a highly organized and affluent suburb can be much more difficult than in a poorly organized and disadvantaged neighborhood; paying hospitals for providing the same service will result in different levels of payment for urban teaching versus rural community institutions; getting one’s spouse to spend time with the in-laws may be easier if those relatives live in the same geographic area as opposed to an island in the Caribbean.

The keyword “WHY” synthesizes all of the above to explain why some person, group, or other entity (1) got what they wanted, (2) did not get what they wanted, (3) got what they did not want, or (4) did not get what they did not want.

And the key phrase “THROUGH PERSUASION AND WITHOUT RESORTING TO PHYSICAL VIOLENCE” places politics on a continuum of methods by which rights and resources within a society are distributed.

At one end of the continuum is democratic political action in a civil society; at the other end are violence, dictatorship, and war where normal civic functions have been eliminated or have lost their capacity to work. In other words, political action is the principal alternative to violence in figuring out how to deal with the disparate needs, desires, and values in society.

This concludes the bigger part of my expository analysis of the word “politics.” But it is not all. One helpful way to test the usefulness of a definition is to try it out with familiar categories. Following are some recognizable categories of politics presented here to test the definition of politics as the way people decide who gets what, when, where, how and why, but without resorting to violence.

DEMOCRATIC ELECTORAL POLITICS

Who gets the office—public or private—after being chosen by vote? This could be the Tanzania’s president, MP, councilor, school committee member, ward committee chairman, student council president, labor union secretary treasurer, condominium association president, chair of a local gay rights organization, minister, or thousands and thousands of other positions.

DEMOCRATIC BUDGET POLITICS

Who gets what levels of resources from federal, state, county, municipal, or private budgets, for what purposes, and from whom? Governments obtain their revenues from a variety of sources and then pursue a political process to determine how those funds will be allocated. In government, for example, choices are made among uses such as education, municipal aid, prisons, health needs, environmental programs, transportation and public works, tax cuts, public assistance, courts, and much more. Each one of these uses has a host of interest groups, lobbyists, and activists determined to get the largest possible share of the pie.

HEALTH CARE POLITICS

How much money is allocated for health purposes, and how are those funds distributed to, for example, hospitals, physicians, health plans, home health programs, public health initiatives, and community health centers? Within each of these categories, controversies also emerge concerning who gets what: teaching versus community versus rural versus public hospitals; primary-care physicians versus specialists; inpatient versus outpatient services; home and community versus institutional services. Who gets what rights when they belong to a managed-care organization? Who gets the right to have physician-assisted suicide?

REDISTRICTING POLITICS

Who gets what populations and borders when the time comes to redraw political district boundaries? Officeholders will seek to get and hold onto as many like-minded voters as possible and to minimize concentrations of voters who may not be as supportive. A familiar subtheme of this topic in America involves racial and ethnic issues, namely, who gets how many African Americans and/or Hispanics drawn into their districts?

CIVIL RIGHTS POLITICS

Who gets what protections written into law to guard against discriminatory treatment? Who gets special consideration to mitigate the effects of past discrimination? Who, if anyone, gets preferential treatment for jobs and educational admissions? In this political arena, as in many others, we can observe both internal politics—among and within various organizations for dominance and influence—and external politics involving these groups and non–civil rights groups opposed to or supportive of their goals and activities.

EDUCATIONAL POLITICS

Who gets to teach evolution versus creationism? Who gets a new school building in their community, and who pays for it? Who gets tenure, and who does not? Who gets public education resources: the traditional public school system or quasi-public charter schools? Who gets public dollars to promote higher education: the state university system or scholarship programs to help students attend private universities?

OFFICE POLITICS

Who gets the best office, the one with the corner window? Who gets the job title, the promotion, the raise? Who gets the burden of having to sit next to the copier machine? Who gets access to other employees’ E-mail folders?

NEIGHBORHOOD POLITICS

Who gets public permission via zoning approval to build an extension onto his or her house? Whose neighborhood gets the new subsidized housing for mentally ill individuals? How late will the corner tavern be permitted to stay open? Who gets to be (or gets stuck as) the leader of the local block association?

FAMILY POLITICS

Who takes care of the kids on the weekend? Who gets what household chores? Who gets to watch their favorite television program when there’s a conflict in scheduling? Who gets the kids or the house or the car in a marital separation? Who gets to have Thanksgiving dinner at their house?

CONCLUSION

In light of the above analysis, it does not appear to me that President Magufuli banned all political discourses in this nation. I think not. Thus, there is a need for our civil society, and our media houses in particular, to upgrade their "information analysis and evaluation" skills when it comes to reporting political matters.

This is a very stupid and very low defense! All the interpretations by Media and Opposition Politicians were correct. You can not give a vague statement and expect people to get into your head and read what you meant! Also, Direct politics is not a crimes in Tz. So, whether you ban direct or indirect politics, that is infringement of the Human Rights stipulated by both the URT Constitution and International Treaties in which Tz is a State Party! I repeat, this is too low, you could better go and cook makande rather than coming here with such a horrible defense!

 

[Simplicity.]

Ndio nilikuwa nataka kulijua hilo pia. Jamaa kaingia mtegoni kiurahisi kabisa. Ninamshauri aondoe huu uzi kwani sasa hauna tena mashiko. Hili la Dodoma nalo polisi wameingia mtegoni bila kujua.

Sio tu hauna mashiko, itakuwa ni aibu kwa vizazi vyake vyote, hasa mfano kama ana mke na akaona huu upuzi sijui atamchukuliaje, labda kama walipatana kujitoa mhanga wote, maana njaa wakati mwingine inafanya watu wawe mafyatu!

 

[Mag3]

Sasa utetezi wako una ''base'' katika nini?

Mkuu Nguruvi3, nilikuwa nimepania sana kuwa na mnakasha wa maana na huyu limbukeni Deus J. Kahangwa lakini ghafla nikagutuka niliposoma namna anavyotoa majibu ya kipuuzi. Hivyo nikaamua kukaa kimya isije ikawa taabu kututofautisha...yupi anamkimbiza yupi! Kwamba ni yeye tu anao uwezo wa kututafsiria alichosema Magufuli, kulinipa picha kamili ya uwezo wake wa kufikiri ulipofikia.

 

[LENDEYSON]

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I have replayed it and it shows that the President banned electoral politics in a post-election season. The police actions are may. Be specific and I shall comment accordingly.

Electoral politics? Are the opposition vying any position so far? Is there any campaign so far? Are the direct politics considered electoral politics? Hahahahaaaa! This is typical example of Mwendokasi brains!

 

[Bukanga]

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Ni haki kwa chama cha siasa kuzunguka nchi kikieneza habari za uwongo kwamba Rais Magufuli hakushinda kihalali? Jitazame tena.

Imefika mahali umejitambulisha kwa jina na rangi yako halisi...

Msaidie mwenyekiti wako kupata ajila...

 

[TAU 1]

Kindly go read the constitution regarding the same and get back

 

[S.Liondo]

Kwa maana hii mleta mada anachotuambia ni kwamba vyombo vyote hivyo vya habari pamoja na wengine wote Waliolielewa lile katazo kama jinsi walivyolielewa wana ufahamu mdogo sana isipokuwa yeye. Hongera zake.

 

[S.Liondo]

Kahangwa, you would better know that our political parties together with their fanatic CSOs have only known and versed in the one way of doing politics, political rallies, basi! They know nothing other than that. They are void of political planning, strategizing, organising and the like. No wonder 25 years down the road no party is boastful of overt strong public support based on clear mainstream policy as alternative to the establishment. Parties are merely surviving on 'clouding politics of confusion' in a situation neither leaders nor members are clear of their respective parties' runs strategies. They are mere bunches of opportunists, period!

Are political rallies unconstitutional in this country? Can't political rallies be one of the best political strategies? What does the government fear that it has chosen this move as the right one in dealing with opposition parties? Cowardice is the problem that leads the authorities to do things as they do them now.

 

[Bulamba]

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Tofautisha kati ya "any form" na "specific forms" then utaona pointi yangu.

Hakuzungumza any form wala specific forms.Alisema hakuna siasa mpaka 2020.Jifunze kutii maaagizo bila shuruti.

 

[Ng'wanangwa]

this is what you'd expect from a ccm kada.

 

[Sophist]

Are political rallies unconstitutional in this country? Can't political rallies be one of the best political strategies? What does the government fear that it has chosen this move as the right one in dealing with opposition parties? Cowardice is the problem that leads the authorities to do things as they do them now.

Hope today you have heard Lowasa's political statement reaffirming his position in the MillardAyo TV, whose thread is rightly posted in here. It is all about leadership towards political maturity, and therefore JPM is right. Constitutions provide us with basics, they do not accompany side us all the way to maturity, besides growing standing on constitutions as our base, our foundations.

 

[Sophist]

and then what is your argument against that of Kahangwa?

 

[S.Liondo]

Hope today you have heard Lowasa's political statement reaffirming his position in the MillardAyo TV, whose thread is rightly posted in here. It is all about leadership towards political maturity, and therefore JPM is right. Constitutions provide us with basics, they do not accompany side us all the way to maturity, besides growing standing on constitutions as our base, our foundations.

What political maturity are you talking about? The one of saying Yes to everything the rulers want? Or the one of working together in fairness even if we don't agree in some issues. From What I know, in this country any childish act that can benefit the government in some ways is so welcomed and warmly embraced. But any act of maturity that criticize the government for the betterment of our country will be regarded as treason. This is the country we are living in.

 

[Nguruvi3]

Jamaa aliingia kwa gia kali, duh! Amewaza atokeje, akaona, mbona JF mimi ni verified user, kwa nini nisiende kujitongozesha Lumumba? Hivi inawezekana ametumwa?

Au ni asignemnt ya Lumumba kabla hujapokelewa?

Jamaa alitambua hapa ni mahali anaweza kutupa chochote watu wakameza. Ni assignment yake, kituo cha kazi leo ni ..

Hapa watu wana ufahamu, weledi na kujitambua. Leo kaingia porini bila kutarajia.
Baada ya kufanya fyongo, CCM ina haha kujinasua na aibu hii. Polisi wanatafuta pa kutokea

 

[mahoza]

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Sina mawasiliano nao hao unaowasema.

Nataraji mtu akitoa hoja au maoni huwa anaangalia pande zote mbili za shilingi. Kwa ulivyosema inaonyesha jinsi amvavyo umeegemea upande mmoja. Ungekuwa neutral usingeonekana mahaba yako yalipo.

 

[Utotole]

Kama kumbukumbu zangu zipo sawa... CHASO Dar es salaam walifanya mahafali na mgeni rasmi alikuwa Mh.Lowasa na Meya wa Dar es salaam.!! sikumbuki kama ule mkutano ulizuiliwa...

mimi naamini kama taratibu zitafuatwa vizuri hii mikutano ya kisiasa inaruhusiwa kufanyika!! ila ninachokiona apa kuna matumizi mabaya ya huu uhuru wa kufanaya mikutano ya siasa na kama hakutakuwa na utaratibu wa kuratibu hii mikutano kuna madhara yanaweza kutokea...

sio kila mda ni kufanya mikutano tu... na kama inatakiwa kufanyika basi ifuate sheria!!

Sema sababu ya kuzuia CHASO Dodoma na Kilimanjaro.

 

[Nguruvi3]

Mkuu Nguruvi3, nilikuwa nimepania sana kuwa na mnakasha wa maana na huyu limbukeni Deus J. Kahangwa lakini ghafla nikagutuka niliposoma namna anavyotoa majibu ya kipuuzi. Hivyo nikaamua kukaa kimya isije ikawa taabu kututofautisha...yupi anamkimbiza yupi! Kwamba ni yeye tu anao uwezo wa kututafsiria alichosema Magufuli, kulinipa picha kamili ya uwezo wake wa kufikiri ulipofikia.

Mkuu hawa watu tumewakalia kimya wanadhani nchi nzima imejaa wendawazimu na wana uwezo wa kufanya na kusema watakalo tutaitikia na kuimba nyimbo walizotunga za kuhadaa

Nilisoma nikidhani kuna substance. Nilipomaliza nikahitimisha article 'imeandaliwa'
Ushahidi ni majibu yasiyolingana na hoja

Think about this, anasema Magufuli hakupiga marufuku mikutano.
Kwamba media houses hazikumwelewa isipokuwa yeye na Polisi

Tumemueleza si Magufuli tu, aliyeanza ni waziri mkuuMagufuli akapigilia msumari.
Tukamuonyesha aliposema mikutano ya kisiasa hadi 2020 ili atekeleza agenda zake.

Ingawa haieleweki mikutano inazuia vipi utekelezaji hiyo ndiyo kauli inayosemwa
Mada ikageuzwa, hatukumuelewa, kuna 'any form' ya mikutano na 'specific form'

Hakueleza ni aina gani ambayo Polisi na serikali na CCM wamezuia kati ya hizo form mbili
Polisi wamezuia 'any form' si za mikutano bali mikusanyiko.

Mazishi , kipindu pindu Mwanza, mahafali,ugonjwa Dodoma, mikutano ya siasa n.k.

Hivyo walichozuia ni 'any Form'

Kama ni 'specific form' Zitto na ACT alikuwa na mkutano specific kwa mujibu wa sheria ambao ulikuwa wa ndani. Polisi wakazuia. wakazuia kukutana na waandishi ofisini.

Polisi wamezuia 'specific form' ya mikutano

Kwa mantiki hiyo Polisi na serikali wamezuia 'any form na specific form'
CCM wamepewa ruhusa ya mikutano kwa vile ni 'specific form' ya mikutano.

Haki iliyowapa CCM wamenyimwa ACT-Wazalendo pale millennium tower

Katika double std ya namna hii, Polisi hawana majibu. Wamejikuta wakiulizwa maagizo hayo yanatoka kwa nani na kwanini kama chombo cha umma inaonekana kutumiwa .

Hoja ya wanaokwenda 'kusaidia' Polisi kama ulinzi jamii imeletwa na Polisi na CCM
CCM/ Serikali wametangeneza mazingira hayo sasa wanaruka kama si wao.

Mkuu, hawa watu waelezwe ukweli wakae wakijua nchi hii ni yetu sote, haina umiliki
Siasa za namna hii zinajenga chuki katika jamii isiyo na ulazima

Tunamshauri Deus ambaye 'apparently' ni msomi, apeleke habari hii gazeti la Uhuru
na ikajadiliwe Radio Uhuru.Hapa JF amekwama, amekimbia na ahsante akirudi, aje na kitu cha maana chenye mashiko na akili

Nilimwambia toka mwanzo, kama ni mawazo huru tunayaheshim, kama ametumwa akanawe uso, umejaa taka na harufu. Akajisafishe arudi jamvini akiwa msafi.

Deus J. Kahangwa Wasalimie huko na karibu tena jamvini

Masalaam

 

[Utotole]

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I have replayed it and it shows that the President banned electoral politics in a post-election season. The police actions are may. Be specific and I shall comment accordingly.

What do you mean by electoral politics?
A simple way to put it is that you guys are afraid that your mistakes will be brought to the open. Na kwa style hiyo ya kujifungia ndani au kufunuka macho yenu na kujisaidia njiani mkidhani wapita njia hawatawaona simply kwa kuwa ninyi hamuwaoni mtatumbukiza taifa hili shimoni.