I seek guidance please: Is Jesus 100% God or 100% Man?

[GentleGiant]

Hili porojo la kiwango cha lami. Eti mikogo ya kiuandishi ndiyo imesababisha namba zimekosewa? Nipe ukoo wa Mariam kwenye biblia ulivyoorodheshwa kama wa Yesu kuliko kuniambia maneno matupu.
We haufahamu biblia kuna baadhi ya sehemu zimebadilishwa? Unajua lugha ya asili ya agano la kale na agano jipya?

Sasa kama unataka kuweka majibu yako wewe kwa sbabu yanafurahisha nafsi yako pia ni sawa sikulazimishi.We unadhani wakati wanaweka hicho kitabu hawakuona hiyo taarifa.Haya sasa hiyo taarifa imebatilisha kitu gani kwenye imani ya kikristu?

Contradiction ambazo hazibatilishi chochote hazina impact kwenye imani.Ingekuwa kitabu kimoja kinasema Yesu alikufa msalabani kingine kikasema hakufa msalabani basi hapa kweli pangekuwa na tatizo.


Lakini kulazimisha kuwa Maria dada yake Musa ni mama wa Yesu ni kuudanganya umma na kuna impact kwenye imani ya wakristu iwapo watakubaliana na huo wizi.

 

[medisonmuta]

Sasa kama unataka kuweka majibu yako wewe kwa sbabu yanafurahisha nafsi yako pia ni sawa sikulazimishi.We unadhani wakati wanaweka hicho kitabu hawakuona hiyo taarifa.Haya sasa hiyo taarifa imebatilisha kitu gani kwenye imani ya kikristu?

Contradiction ambazo hazibatilishi chochote hazina impact kwenye imani.Ingekuwa kitabu kimoja kinasema Yesu alikufa msalabani kingine kikasema hakufa msalabani basi hapa kweli pangekuwa na tatizo.


Lakini kulazimisha kuwa Maria dada yake Musa ni mama wa Yesu ni kuudanganya umma na kuna impact kwenye imani ya wakristu iwapo watakubaliana na huo wizi.

Vitu vingi vinabatilisha imani ya kikristo. Kwenye contradiction kuhusu msalaba na kumwita Mungu mpumbavu. Unaweza kusema maana ya hii aya?

1 Wakorintho 1:25

25 Kwa maana huu upumbavu wa Mungu una hekima zaidi kuliko hekima ya wanadamu, na ’udhaifu’ wa Mungu una nguvu ipitayo nguvu ya wanadamu.

 

[badison]

Kwa hiyo kwa sababu hawajakupa story yake akiwa na miaka 15 kwa hyo kwa tafsiri yako wewe ha-exist au sio?

Kama biblia haijaacha kitu wangeweka hiyo miaka tujue alikuwa wapi

 

[badison]

Limetajwa sana sema tu Biblia husomi so huwezi kulielewa ukiliona.

Nipe verse iliyotaja tafadhali

 

[wakurochi]

Jesus mother worked at the temple of holy brothers and she get pregnat they kick her out as it was a shame for a woman to give birth before marriage. After jesus was born 3 random
Men come with gifts and give marry tjose gifts what is that mean to you?

Will be glad if you will make available to me the source your information

 

[Tipstipstor]

Ni yeye ndo aliyeleta Quran hii yenye hizo contradiction unategemea angewajibuje? Lakini the fact remains Maria hana uhusiano na Haruni kabisa.

Kwahiyo unakataa majibu ya aliyoteremshiwa Quran na kuwafundisha wanadamu???

Waislam vyanzo vyetu vikuu vya marejeo ni viwili tu..Quran na Sunnah (hadith). Sunnah ndio inatafsiri Quran.

Sasa ukikataa marejeo halafu unafosi nikujibu vile unavyotaka wew sitaweza kukujibu

 

[Mmeme]

what do you have you to say on this incidence?

One story about Jesus in the bible that is confusing and incoherent is the story of the fig tree. Matthew 21:18-19 states, "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."

1. Jesus was hungry (God hungry?)

2. He cursed the fig tree because it wasn't bearing fruit.
A). God didn't know the tree didn't have fruit
B). He cursed a perfectly good tree that was only conforming to its nature to bear fruit in the season God designed it to.

3. The Human nature of Jesus overrode his divine nature and cursed the tree.

For me 3 is an incredibly huge problem. His "divine" nature did not stop his human nature from curse.
Nb
Plz avoid your emotions while answering and reasoning this out. plz.

I have read your thread of wanting to know the level of the divinity or humanity of Jesus.

But I want to criticize you a little bit when he wrote "one story about Jesus in the bible"

There is no story in the bible, there is history. Stories are just human poems and have no reality. But history is an actual event that happened some time ago. You can ask a story to find out what the author's goal is to convey. You can't question history because it's the real thing that happened.

You may wonder why he cursed the fig tree or why he felt so hungry. But it is clearly stated in the Bible why this happened.

So do not read the bible as a story but read as history you will understand it well.

 

[Mokiti]

Swali ulilouliza ww "mkristo wa sasa hv" kuhusu hiyo aya si geni bali "wakristo walioishi kipindi cha mtume" pia walishawahi kumuuliza mwanafunzi wa Mtume Muhammad (amani na sala ziwe juu yake)

Mughira b. Shu'ba reported: "When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read "O sister of Harun (Aaron)" (i. e. Mary) in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab), Book 025, Number 5326)"

Kuna issue kubwa Sana Muhammad kachanganya
1. Kachanganya baba wa Maryam ndio huyo huyo baba wa Musa na Musa alikuwa ana ndugu yake anaitwa harun
Kumbuka Musa alikuwa na dada anaitwa Miriam hapo ndio madesa yalipo pandiana , mpaka wakawa wayahudi Wana mcheka vibaya mno
Koran
3;35. Alipo sema mke wa Imran: Mola wangu Mlezi! Nimekuwekea nadhiri kilichomo tumboni mwangu kuwa wakfu........
36. Basi alipo mzaa alisema: Mola wangu Mlezi! Nimemzaa mwanamke(Maryamu)
19:28 “Ewe dada yake Haruni. Baba yako hakuwa mtu mbaya.
66;12. Na Mariamu binti wa Imrani, aliye linda ubikira wake,

 

[Mokiti]

Kwahiyo unakataa majibu ya aliyoteremshiwa Quran na kuwafundisha wanadamu???

Waislam vyanzo vyetu vikuu vya marejeo ni viwili tu..Quran na Sunnah (hadith). Sunnah ndio inatafsiri Quran.

Sasa ukikataa marejeo halafu unafosi nikujibu vile unavyotaka wew sitaweza kukujibu

Issue ya kusema ISSA ni wajomba zake ni haruni na Musa sio kosa la kitoto ni kosa kubwa Sana ,
Na kilichomchanganya Muhammad ni Imran baba wa Musa na haruni na dada Yao Miriam hapo ndio Muhammad akazani huyo Miriam ndio Maryam mama wa Yesu

Hapo ndio akazika dini yake kabisa kwa uongo huo

 

[Tipstipstor]

Y

Issue ya kusema ISSA ni wajomba zake ni haruni na Musa sio kosa la kitoto ni kosa kubwa Sana ,
Na kilichomchanganya Muhammad ni Imran baba wa Musa na haruni na dada Yao Miriam hapo ndio Muhammad akazani huyo Miriam ndio Maryam mama wa Yesu

Hapo ndio akazika dini yake kabisa kwa uongo huo

Yaani unamuongelea mtume kwa kudhani are you serious in ur head? Hiyo suratul maryam inateremka ....sura nyingine zilishashuka kuelezea Masuala ya mtume Mussa na Harun na visa vya firauni! Na pia mwisho wao na jinsi walivyofuata mitume mingine mpaka kuja kwa Masih Issa mwana wa maryam...then unakuja kusema kuwa Mtume alikuwa hajui....hahaaa.

Nimekupa hadith inayoeleza wakristo wenzako waliokuwa wakiishi Najran ndani ya bara Arab jinsi walivyomuuliza Mwanafunzi wa Mtume kuhusiana na swali hili hili ambalo wewe unakuja kuliuliza miaka 1400 baadae...

Na Mtume hakusita kuwajibu kuwa ulikuwa ni utaratibu wa kale uliotumiwa na wayahudi miaka 600 kabla walikuwa wakiitana kwa namna hiyo.

 

[Mokiti]

Y

Yaani unamuongelea mtume kwa kudhani are you serious in ur head? Hiyo suratul maryam inateremka ....sura nyingine zilishashuka kuelezea Masuala ya mtume Mussa na Harun na visa vya firauni! Na pia mwisho wao na jinsi walivyofuata mitume mingine mpaka kuja kwa Masih Issa mwana wa maryam...then unakuja kusema kuwa Mtume alikuwa hajui....hahaaa.

Nimekupa hadith inayoeleza wakristo wenzako waliokuwa wakiishi Najran ndani ya bara Arab jinsi walivyomuuliza Mwanafunzi wa Mtume kuhusiana na swali hili hili ambalo wewe unakuja kuliuliza miaka 1400 baadae...

Na Mtume hakusita kuwajibu kuwa ulikuwa ni utaratibu wa kale uliotumiwa na wayahudi miaka 600 kabla walikuwa wakiitana kwa namna hiyo.

Hajachanganya haruni na Musa tu kuwa dada wa Maryam
Kachanganya pia Baba wa Mariam ndio huyo huyo baba wa Musa na Haruni
Kwa issue ya kusema ni ukoo au wanaitana haipo maana Muhammad kasema wazi Imran ni baba wa Maryam na Imran alikuwa ni Baba wa Musa na Haruni

Huyu hapa akisema Imran ni baba wa Maryam
Koran
3;35. Alipo sema mke wa Imran: Mola wangu Mlezi! Nimekuwekea nadhiri kilichomo tumboni mwangu kuwa wakfu........

 

[Tz mbongo]

Ukisema alikuwa binaadamu kamili na Mungu kamili inakuwa ni sawa na kusema alikuwa mungu-mtu.

 

[NAMBA MOJA AJAYE NCHINI]

Is a mixer God and Man!!

 

[CHIEF MASALAKULANGWA]

what do you have you to say on this incidence?

One story about Jesus in the bible that is confusing and incoherent is the story of the fig tree. Matthew 21:18-19 states, "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."

1. Jesus was hungry (God hungry?)

2. He cursed the fig tree because it wasn't bearing fruit.
A). God didn't know the tree didn't have fruit
B). He cursed a perfectly good tree that was only conforming to its nature to bear fruit in the season God designed it to.

3. The Human nature of Jesus overrode his divine nature and cursed the tree.

For me 3 is an incredibly huge problem. His "divine" nature did not stop his human nature from curse.
Nb
Plz avoid your emotions while answering and reasoning this out. plz.

By the way, what beneficial gains will you get in knowing whether Jesus, the Almighty God, was 100 percent GOD or human? I am just asking for curiosity only!

 

[Anonymous Caller]

Baada ya kusoma maoni humu nimepata Conclusions.JESUS and GOD ni Yuleyule..nakala moja iliyoshuka kuishi nasi ndie JESUS, nakala moja ilisalia mbinguni..ni GOD....Au ni MUNGU yuleyule na kwasab anauwezo alijigeuza na kujivika ubinadamu wakt huohuo kiwiliwili kimoja akakibakiza kwny kiti cha enzi..sehemu moja ya uungu wake akashuka nayo duniani in human flesh..(yeye si ni muweza) ukiambiwa changanya na zako!

 

[Natty Bongoman]

what do you have you to say on this incidence?

One story about Jesus in the bible that is confusing and incoherent is the story of the fig tree. Matthew 21:18-19 states, "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."

1. Jesus was hungry (God hungry?)

2. He cursed the fig tree because it wasn't bearing fruit.
A). God didn't know the tree didn't have fruit
B). He cursed a perfectly good tree that was only conforming to its nature to bear fruit in the season God designed it to.

3. The Human nature of Jesus overrode his divine nature and cursed the tree.

For me 3 is an incredibly huge problem. His "divine" nature did not stop his human nature from curse.
Nb
Plz avoid your emotions while answering and reasoning this out. plz.

The answer to your topic title question - whose seed was it?

#3 - "The Human nature of Jesus overrode his divine nature..." - what's your question then when you've mentioned 'human' and 'divine' nature

 

[Song of Solomon]

Who suffered the pains of the Jews was jesus god or jesus man?

Maswali ya kushetani haya

 

[Song of Solomon]

This thread it's hard to find people from the Madrassa...please next time use swahili

Hahahaaaa

 

[Mparee2]

Frankly speaking everyone can interpret verses in the Bible the way they suit him and that's why we have many religions
(Protestant, Roman, Sabbath etc)
So without interpreting verses the way which suit you; Could you give us at least three references in the Bible where Jesus said that, he is God

Bado nasubiri mtu anipe mistari ya Biblia bila kumsaidia Yesu kutafsiri ambayo amesema; mimi ni Mungu. Sihitaji mtu wa kumsemea au kutafsiri anavyo ona yeye, nahitaji reference hata moja Yesu aliyosema kuwa mimi ni MUNGU!

 

[BlueIvy]

Mambo yao, waachie wenyewe