CHADEMA wazungumze na Zitto na ACT

[Fundisi Muhapa]

C'mon Kinana Tour ended a month or so ago, and infact Mnyika was more or so following Zitto's trial..,come back with a batter explanation.Especially as to why, now that Zitto has halted his meetings coincides with CDM halting theirs as well.Worse the Headlines of Mnyika and Mbowe rallies were all about Zitto and ACT. Couldn't they have chosen a far worse coincidence?


UKAWA would have naturally found it's leaders and in the end pick its representative if they had a cohesive message and philosophy, BUT i do not see that. If it's about serving people, why are the headlines we get from UKAWA all about positions for the general elections?
CCM has one of the most robust leadership process among TZ political parties, it's well documented and everything is clear to my understanding. They will have their general meetings where they will nominate their candidates, they did this for several decades, i do not think CCM is worried JK successor, infact they are spoilt with choices.



This is exactly my problem with UKAWA,what kind of unifying agenda is that?i do not see any unity past them being oppositions, what kind of unity exists in CUF and CDM policies?strategies? IS aid this before, if UKAWA really were united, i would have expected them to form a single party to counter CCM, then i would have taken them seriously, otherwise they are trading with a weak hand. This will not happen because no one in UKAWA wants to be subordinate to the other, similar way ZITTO got tired of being subordinate to Mbowe and Slaa and decided to be the Party leader of his own. Tanzania politicians aren't that sophisticated for a bigger cause. Lets not kid ourselves here.


There is plenty of power to be shared, between CDM and CUF they control quite a huge chunk of MP seats,and that is the power what no party wants to be caught napping and give up ground.


I would appreciate if you explain instances where Zitto worked against CDM while within CHADEMA in aid of CCM,it's easy to throw allegations but hurder to prove them. Anyone can throw allegations few can prove them. Logically all i see in Zitto is an ultra competitive politician who does not like to be kept in the background.



Phew, this is quite absurd?Zitto not against the ruling party?isn't this the same dude writing every few sentences "same enemy different fronts" or something like that?so i am expected to take your words against the words of the accused which are very public? It's this kind of cheap rhetoric that makes a lot of us wonder, what happened to the minds in CDM that catapulted it to higher heights circa 2005 elections



Not really actually, i am just amazed at selective justice, that granted Mbatia access to UKAWA that Zitto is denied.You do not see that because you are deeply clouded by your love for CHADEMA, which is fine.,since i am no member of either party i see things as they are and am simply baffled.
If a union is made up of hypocritical and selective justice i don't see how it represents Tanzanians in an honest way. The way i See it is very simple. Draw a line and unite all opposition regardless of past grudges to battle against CCM, or be doomed by thinking selectively picking sides when it suites CDM will help it. At the moment y'all are just giving anmo to CCM.




Unfortunately i do not see any valid change in vision among UKAWA team, seriously, i just see same old same.They need to redefine themselves and tell Tanzanians that. We all see they still obsessively cling onto unnecessary "posho's", Mbowe is using government resources to do campaigning in similar way we complain about CCM using govt resources for themselves. They do not really have anything new democratically,it's all quasi democratic,and don't even get me started on individual qualities of UKAWA leaders.., since i will stop at 10 or may be 20 and run out of any solid respectable, honest leaders. ACT is also in the same charade, its leadership base is ridiculously thin and past a handful of party leaders there isn't much, but at least they can claim they are just a year old. Surprisingly only CUF has the types of leaders that have been tested at the highest levels of leadership. for example if it were my call, i would request UKAWA to appoint Seif as their presidential candidate, since he is the only Leader i know who stands for what he believes and he is extremely capable,and knows when to take compromises when needed.But we all know that will not happen.

It's absurd UKAWA is propping up Slaa and Mbowe while it's clearly they are tiny when placed beside Maalim Seif in each and evry leadership qualities. Maalim is the only person in Ukawa to have served at the highest level of government in Tanzania and with proper leadership qualities. while i see leadership qualities in Dr.Slaa, he really has never been tested as a top leader the way Maalim has.

I personally will only stand behind UKAWA if they are honest with themselves, sio kuleta ujanja ujanja.



ZZK is the only person in this saga who has publicly apologised. You may want to ignore his apology, but i remember reading he did that when he went to say goodbye to his constituents. He even later clarified that he wants to put the past behind. What did CHADEMA do? cling on to the useless traitor this traitor that, that is now useless since Zitto is no longer in CHADEMA.

How can you say Zitto is waging a war against UKAWA while he applied officially to join the UKAWA?am baffled again. What did CHADEMA bigwigs say in response?that will never happen, as if UKAWA is defacto CDM.

I agree Zitto and CDM both made mistakes, but Zitto apologised Chadema did not.Zitto has put the past quarrel behind him, CHADEMA is still acting like a disgruntled ex.

All these words... FOR WHAT?! You've never supported the opp. Suddenly you 'diminutively' stand tall here advising the same people you wish they never clinch power...... WHAT A HYPOCRISY!!!

 

[Fundisi Muhapa]

Act hawana lolote,hapowalipo hawana mgombea isipokuwa zito tu,na kama ni mbunge watapata zito tu,maeneo mengine hamna kabisa,utasemaje eti kina lissu,mnyika,mdee watakuwa na nafuu?wewe hazimo kabisa.

Usajili wa kudumu hivi hao ACT walishapata? Manake huku Arusha ipo ACT-Tanzania. Ya Zitto ni ACT-Wazalendo (soma wasaliti)!!!

Wanachanganya sana hawa watu..... usaliti ni donda ndugu.....

 

[Kimweri]

All these words... FOR WHAT?! You've never supported the opp. Suddenly you 'diminutively' stand tall here advising the same people you wish they never clinch power...... WHAT A HYPOCRISY!!!

If you had stopped to make this about Kimweri, it would actually make more sense in light of the type of discussion we have here.

I am not the type to dig behind what i write in forums, BUT i challenge you to go through my commenting history dating all the way back to 2008, and find me a single comment that i actually supported CCM. JUST a single comment. In the same manner go through hundreds of comments where i posted in support of opposition on different matters.bare in mind that, i tell things as they are, if Kinana's grassroots campaign is successful, i am not the type to tell lies and say all is well.if being frank is supporting CCM then we all see why CCM is still the party to beat. You can not beat an opponent you don't measure well.

The difference between you and I is, i am as independent as they come, and i am not influenced by cheap politics, I have seen CHADEMA make huge promises that i supported that they are now going out of the way to rescind them. CHADEMA i was expecting to remove CCM out of power back in 2007-2008 is not the same CHADEMA that came to being post 2010 elections.

They had huge momentum, and what did they use of it, acting as if they had keys to the statehouse. Slowly becoming each and every piece just like CCM they have constantly despised.

I am all for strong opposition, and change of political power, for i sincerely believe CCM is gravely under-performing, BUT i am not under any illusion to believe that CDM has exploited CCM shortcomings in a proper manner.

Of all political parties in TZ now, for me only CUF stands matured enough, i have gained massive respect for their handling of controversial 2010 elections.

CHADEMA went downhill after 2010 elections, who would have thought 5 years after the 2010 excitement, CCM would still be breathing comfortably?what happened?CDM was busy looking for traitors, instead of focusing on what made it a political powerhouse circa 2007-2010.

 

[Fundisi Muhapa]

If you had stopped to make this about Kimweri, it would actually make more sense in light of the type of discussion we have here.

I am not the type to dig behind what i write in forums, BUT i challenge you to go through my commenting history dating all the way back to 2008, and find me a single comment that i actually supported CCM. JUST a single comment. In the same manner go through hundreds of comments where i posted in support of opposition on different matters.bare in mind that, i tell things as they are, if Kinana's grassroots campaign is successful, i am not the type to tell lies and say all is well.if being frank is supporting CCM then we all see why CCM is still the party to beat. You can not beat an opponent you don't measure well.

The difference between you and I is, i am as independent as they come, and i am not influenced by cheap politics, I have seen CHADEMA make huge promises that i supported that they are now going out of the way to rescind them. CHADEMA i was expecting to remove CCM out of power back in 2007-2008 is not the same CHADEMA that came to being post 2010 elections.

They had huge momentum, and what did they use of it, acting as if they had keys to the statehouse. Slowly becoming each and every piece just like CCM they have constantly despised.

I am all for strong opposition, and change of political power, for i sincerely believe CCM is gravely under-performing, BUT i am not under any illusion to believe that CDM has exploited CCM shortcomings in a proper manner.

Of all political parties in TZ now, for me only CUF stands matured enough, i have gained massive respect for their handling of controversial 2010 elections.

CHADEMA went downhill after 2010 elections, who would have thought 5 years after the 2010 excitement, CCM would still be breathing comfortably?what happened?CDM was busy looking for traitors, instead of focusing on what made it a political powerhouse circa 2007-2010.

So you like seriously believe CDM has gone downhill since 2010? Wonders shall never end....

Such contortions only manage to brand u a hater than a opp. Wellwisher (or better yet, an independent as u claim).....

 

[Neema William]

Wewe huo waraka hadi uliwekwa hapa, hakuna cha ajabu mle, ni power struggle kind of document iliyokuwa na nia moja tu, kuchukua madaraka makuu CDM. Sasa ninachoshangaa mie ni MBOWE na SLAA, kufikiria kuwa CHADEMA nzima hakutakiwi kuwa na watu wenye ambitions za kuwa viongozi badala yao. Yani mbowe anaamini kabisa hakuna hata mwana CHADEMA mmoja anayependa kuwa Mwenyekiti?kama anaamini hivyo, basi kuna tatizo.

naona umeruka hoja zangu zooote, umekimbilia kwa m*vi ya kale. Nyie si mlimfukuza Kafulila??si mlimuita SISIMIZI? sasa mbona leo mwafanya nae kazi UKAWA? Nyie si mlimuita Mbatia Agent wa CCM?mbona leo hii mwafanya nae kazi UKAWA?si mliwaita CUF Mash*ga?mkawakejeli kuwa wameolewa na CCM Zanzibar?mbona leo hii mwatolea matamko ya UKAWA kwenye makao makuu yake?

Samahani sana all i see is Hooker principles here.., hakuna cha msimamo wala mjomba wake na msimamo.Mie Zitto kuwepo au kutokuwepo bungeni hakunisaidii chochote, ila kutawapa ahueni CCM, kwani watakuwa na uhakika waserikali yao kutokufuatwa fuatwa na King'ang'anizi Zitto. Kama Mnamtegemea Mnyika a-fill void ya Zitto basi mnaota, Kama vile void ya Slaa ilivyoshindwa kuzibwa kwenye bunge liliokwisha, kama Zitto hatakuwepo Bunge lijalo ni sherehe kwa CCM.

CCM wanashangilia Vita ya ACT na CDM na kwa makusudi kabisa wanajiweka upande wa ACT kwani hata chizi ukimtoa jalalani atakumbuka kauli, "enemy of your enemy is your friend". CCM adui wa CDM lazima a-cozzy up na tishio lolote kwa CDM ili kuwa provoke vichwa moto wa Ufipa. Tumeimba wee, lakini wapi, vile vichwa pale vimepashwa moto na pressure cooker, kupoa shida.

haha haha kumekucha

 

[yero]

ACT kazi wanayo mwaka huu

 

[yero]

C'mon Kinana Tour ended a month or so ago, and infact Mnyika was more or so following Zitto's trial..,come back with a batter explanation.Especially as to why, now that Zitto has halted his meetings coincides with CDM halting theirs as well.Worse the Headlines of Mnyika and Mbowe rallies were all about Zitto and ACT. Couldn't they have chosen a far worse coincidence?


UKAWA would have naturally found it's leaders and in the end pick its representative if they had a cohesive message and philosophy, BUT i do not see that. If it's about serving people, why are the headlines we get from UKAWA all about positions for the general elections?
CCM has one of the most robust leadership process among TZ political parties, it's well documented and everything is clear to my understanding. They will have their general meetings where they will nominate their candidates, they did this for several decades, i do not think CCM is worried JK successor, infact they are spoilt with choices.



This is exactly my problem with UKAWA,what kind of unifying agenda is that?i do not see any unity past them being oppositions, what kind of unity exists in CUF and CDM policies?strategies? IS aid this before, if UKAWA really were united, i would have expected them to form a single party to counter CCM, then i would have taken them seriously, otherwise they are trading with a weak hand. This will not happen because no one in UKAWA wants to be subordinate to the other, similar way ZITTO got tired of being subordinate to Mbowe and Slaa and decided to be the Party leader of his own. Tanzania politicians aren't that sophisticated for a bigger cause. Lets not kid ourselves here.


There is plenty of power to be shared, between CDM and CUF they control quite a huge chunk of MP seats,and that is the power what no party wants to be caught napping and give up ground.


I would appreciate if you explain instances where Zitto worked against CDM while within CHADEMA in aid of CCM,it's easy to throw allegations but hurder to prove them. Anyone can throw allegations few can prove them. Logically all i see in Zitto is an ultra competitive politician who does not like to be kept in the background.



Phew, this is quite absurd?Zitto not against the ruling party?isn't this the same dude writing every few sentences "same enemy different fronts" or something like that?so i am expected to take your words against the words of the accused which are very public? It's this kind of cheap rhetoric that makes a lot of us wonder, what happened to the minds in CDM that catapulted it to higher heights circa 2005 elections



Not really actually, i am just amazed at selective justice, that granted Mbatia access to UKAWA that Zitto is denied.You do not see that because you are deeply clouded by your love for CHADEMA, which is fine.,since i am no member of either party i see things as they are and am simply baffled.
If a union is made up of hypocritical and selective justice i don't see how it represents Tanzanians in an honest way. The way i See it is very simple. Draw a line and unite all opposition regardless of past grudges to battle against CCM, or be doomed by thinking selectively picking sides when it suites CDM will help it. At the moment y'all are just giving anmo to CCM.




Unfortunately i do not see any valid change in vision among UKAWA team, seriously, i just see same old same.They need to redefine themselves and tell Tanzanians that. We all see they still obsessively cling onto unnecessary "posho's", Mbowe is using government resources to do campaigning in similar way we complain about CCM using govt resources for themselves. They do not really have anything new democratically,it's all quasi democratic,and don't even get me started on individual qualities of UKAWA leaders.., since i will stop at 10 or may be 20 and run out of any solid respectable, honest leaders. ACT is also in the same charade, its leadership base is ridiculously thin and past a handful of party leaders there isn't much, but at least they can claim they are just a year old. Surprisingly only CUF has the types of leaders that have been tested at the highest levels of leadership. for example if it were my call, i would request UKAWA to appoint Seif as their presidential candidate, since he is the only Leader i know who stands for what he believes and he is extremely capable,and knows when to take compromises when needed.But we all know that will not happen.

It's absurd UKAWA is propping up Slaa and Mbowe while it's clearly they are tiny when placed beside Maalim Seif in each and evry leadership qualities. Maalim is the only person in Ukawa to have served at the highest level of government in Tanzania and with proper leadership qualities. while i see leadership qualities in Dr.Slaa, he really has never been tested as a top leader the way Maalim has.

I personally will only stand behind UKAWA if they are honest with themselves, sio kuleta ujanja ujanja.



ZZK is the only person in this saga who has publicly apologised. You may want to ignore his apology, but i remember reading he did that when he went to say goodbye to his constituents. He even later clarified that he wants to put the past behind. What did CHADEMA do? cling on to the useless traitor this traitor that, that is now useless since Zitto is no longer in CHADEMA.

How can you say Zitto is waging a war against UKAWA while he applied officially to join the UKAWA?am baffled again. What did CHADEMA bigwigs say in response?that will never happen, as if UKAWA is defacto CDM.

I agree Zitto and CDM both made mistakes, but Zitto apologised Chadema did not.Zitto has put the past quarrel behind him, CHADEMA is still acting like a disgruntled ex.

C'mon Kinana Tour ended a month or so ago, and infact Mnyika was more or so following Zitto's trial..,come back with a batter explanation.Especially as to why, now that Zitto has halted his meetings coincides with CDM halting theirs as well.Worse the Headlines of Mnyika and Mbowe rallies were all about Zitto and ACT. Couldn't they have chosen a far worse coincidence?

I do not agree with you that CHADEMA’s rallies has been about ACT, I will consistently say so. I can only remember an outlaw called ‘Afande Sele’ and his Supreme Leader throwing all they’ve got against CDM in their rallies. To remind you, CDM has been talking about upcoming election, Voters Registration issues, Newly Proposed Constitution drama and others. They only touch ACT to inform people to carefully think through before they decide to join newly established parties.

UKAWA would have naturally found it's leaders and in the end pick its representative if they had a cohesive message and philosophy, BUT i do not see that. If it's about serving people, why are the headlines we get from UKAWA all about positions for the general elections?
CCM has one of the most robust leadership process among TZ political parties, it's well documented and everything is clear to my understanding. They will have their general meetings where they will nominate their candidates, they did this for several decades, i do not think CCM is worried JK successor, infact they are spoilt with choices.

Nothing comes naturally, you have to work to achieve something. The editors and pundits write what they think can sell the newspapers and you’ve pointed out it seems many people want to know what’s going on in UKAWA daily, that’s what sells, because this union is unprecedented in this country. I also think your understanding of CCM is obsolete that it’s only you who can’t see how worried they are about the election and UKAWA to be specific. Again CCM is not a union of political parties hence you can’t make such a comparison.

This is exactly my problem with UKAWA,what kind of unifying agenda is that?i do not see any unity past them being oppositions, what kind of unity exists in CUF and CDM policies?strategies? IS aid this before, if UKAWA really were united, i would have expected them to form a single party to counter CCM, then i would have taken them seriously, otherwise they are trading with a weak hand. This will not happen because no one in UKAWA wants to be subordinate to the other, similar way ZITTO got tired of being subordinate to Mbowe and Slaa and decided to be the Party leader of his own. Tanzania politicians aren't that sophisticated for a bigger cause. Lets not kid ourselves here.

UKAWA was born out of split out in the New Constitution process, NARC in Kenya is a similar example. Well while UKAWA is not a political party like the All Progressive Congress in Nigeria, they are joined by the common purpose which is to unseat the governing party from power peacefully in elections. With regards to what exactly will happen in the future, that is beyond my comprehension, you and I can only make predictions. I think Zitto made his own decision to start out, so there shouldn’t be a pressing need to have him back in the team. May be you should cross your fingers, wait and see whether TZ politicians are ‘sophisticated’ or not instead of arguing. There is no need for sophistication, there is a need for change.

The truth is ACT has been so carefully established to thwart the successful coalition of the opposition parties in Tanzania, ahead of the 2015 general election. PERIOD.

There is plenty of power to be shared, between CDM and CUF they control quite a huge chunk of MP seats,and that is the power what no party wants to be caught napping and give up ground.

If that’s what you interpret as power, I think there is nothing wrong with that, I think they should meticulously handle that process in order to not screw things up. If you think something is wrong in that, then I think something is wrong with you.

I would appreciate if you explain instances where Zitto worked against CDM while within CHADEMA in aid of CCM,it's easy to throw allegations but hurder to prove them. Anyone can throw allegations few can prove them. Logically all i see in Zitto is an ultra competitive politician who does not like to be kept in the background.

He didn’t walk out of the parliament as they agreed following the ruling party’s kidnapping of the Peoples’ constitution. He didn’t show up in Arusha when his members were beaten and some followers were killed by the ruling party, his party members had no idea where he was. They also had no idea of his whereabouts when they were beaten in Musoma, Tarime just to mention a few. Surprisingly he showed up in TBC saying he thought going out of the parliament was wrong. If you don’t work with the team, you go, and I am glad he went out to start his own. I think he should be left alone to do his thing don’t you think? Zitto’s chapter has been closed in CDM, a lot of things have been said that won’t change the fact that they don’t want him there.

Phew, this is quite absurd?Zitto not against the ruling party?isn't this the same dude writing every few sentences "same enemy different fronts" or something like that?so i am expected to take your words against the words of the accused which are very public? It's this kind of cheap rhetoric that makes a lot of us wonder, what happened to the minds in CDM that catapulted it to higher heights circa 2005 elections

Don’t be so credulous to believe everything you hear in public, try to make some analysis of your own to stop being so gullible. Haven’t you heard? that is if you are reading, don’t believe everything you read. Few quiet words of a Wiseman are better than many noisy words of a Leader.

Not really actually, i am just amazed at selective justice, that granted Mbatia access to UKAWA that Zitto is denied.You do not see that because you are deeply clouded by your love for CHADEMA, which is fine.,since i am no member of either party i see things as they are and am simply baffled.
If a union is made up of hypocritical and selective justice i don't see how it represents Tanzanians in an honest way. The way i See it is very simple. Draw a line and unite all opposition regardless of past grudges to battle against CCM, or be doomed by thinking selectively picking sides when it suites CDM will help it. At the moment y'all are just giving anmo to CCM.

All Progressive Congress (APC) of Nigeria didn’t need all opposition parties on their side to rid Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), in fact it seems they only needed three but large not small, surprisingly they started with four but one went out and joined the ruling party. UKAWA doesn’t need such a small party as ACT on its side to assure itself of winning. I am not doomed by this stance, in fact I am more politically alive inside by this stance. I am not clouded by love for CDM, I think I am clouded with the fact that everything is going on fine with UKAWA without a suicidal thought of bringing ACT in. ACT Tanzania/Wazalendo is a grenade. I cannot be more astonished why ACT and CCM sings such a similar tune.


Unfortunately i do not see any valid change in vision among UKAWA team, seriously, i just see same old same.They need to redefine themselves and tell Tanzanians that. We all see they still obsessively cling onto unnecessary "posho's", Mbowe is using government resources to do campaigning in similar way we complain about CCM using govt resources for themselves. They do not really have anything new democratically,it's all quasi democratic,and don't even get me started on individual qualities of UKAWA leaders.., since i will stop at 10 or may be 20 and run out of any solid respectable, honest leaders. ACT is also in the same charade, its leadership base is ridiculously thin and past a handful of party leaders there isn't much, but at least they can claim they are just a year old. Surprisingly only CUF has the types of leaders that have been tested at the highest levels of leadership. for example if it were my call, i would request UKAWA to appoint Seif as their presidential candidate, since he is the only Leader i know who stands for what he believes and he is extremely capable,and knows when to take compromises when needed.But we all know that will not happen.

It's absurd UKAWA is propping up Slaa and Mbowe while it's clearly they are tiny when placed beside Maalim Seif in each and evry leadership qualities. Maalim is the only person in Ukawa to have served at the highest level of government in Tanzania and with proper leadership qualities. while i see leadership qualities in Dr.Slaa, he really has never been tested as a top leader the way Maalim has.

I personally will only stand behind UKAWA if they are honest with themselves, sio kuleta ujanja ujanja.

When I read this, I see what I hear or read in many places including newspapers’ editors and pundits who make their own analysis. You see, this individual analysis is good, the only problem is that you are not of UKAWA, someone from CCM or ACT cannot tell UKAWA who to choose, they can only debate about it. That’s what you are doing, debating about the contenders of another party or union. I am not going to comment on the contents of your statement simply because you are not the right person to have that debate with me. You are entitled to your thoughts and you have the freedom of expression.

ZZK is the only person in this saga who has publicly apologised. You may want to ignore his apology, but i remember reading he did that when he went to say goodbye to his constituents. He even later clarified that he wants to put the past behind. What did CHADEMA do? cling on to the useless traitor this traitor that, that is now useless since Zitto is no longer in CHADEMA.

How can you say Zitto is waging a war against UKAWA while he applied officially to join the UKAWA?am baffled again. What did CHADEMA bigwigs say in response?that will never happen, as if UKAWA is defacto CDM.

I agree Zitto and CDM both made mistakes, but Zitto apologised Chadema did not.Zitto has put the past quarrel behind him, CHADEMA is still acting like a disgruntled ex.

I don’t understand how you define apology, I think if you wrong Mr. X it is Mr. X who deserves the apology not Mr. Y. You claim that ZZK allegedly apologized to CDM publicly, that’s not true he never did. Don’t confuse a farewell statement from an apology. He only extenuates the allegations that were against him on the umbrella of a utopian democracy.

When he was asked about his future in CHADEMA before he left he said he is tired and he wanted to go out, he never wanted to remain in claiming he has been sucked as a member of CDM publicly. Now, now that he has made his calculations he wants to get back, just so fast, that’s hypocrisy to fullest. I agree with CDM and its leaders to not allow him back, just let him swim in the large political sea because that’s what he wanted, he never wanted to swim with the large team, he is such a virulent pathogen in teamwork.

 

[Demarco]

nyie mnaopiga kelele msaliti kaisha kisiasa yote ni mafikilio dhaniwa tu lkn kumbuken kuwa ukawa nzima ili sambaa mikoani kutuliaa upepo kila aliko pita kwa hofu ya watanzania kubadili upepo kina mbowe mnyika lipumba na wngne wote matako yaliota moto kwa masaa machache tu aliyokuwa akitumia zito kuongea na wananchi na tulio hudhulia mikutano yk tumeona zito anaushawishi mkubwa na watanzania hawaja poteza imami nae na mbaya zaidi wanapata hasira ya kuiazibu ukawa maana zito anafact hakuna kiongozi yeyote hukawa anaweza kumfikia jukwaani lbd mpk mjiunge zaidi ya wa tatu kila jukwaa nakitu kingine ata huo ukawa wnyw watu kama kina kafulila machali chadema iliwafukuza na kuwaita wasaliti na hatarishi leo wamo kwny kund moja nani dhaili watu kama hao zito aliwasapot walipo timuliwa had wakarud bungen ss mnadhan bom la hapo ni lip?

Kweli wakigoma wabishi.
Ila ume mention kafulila aliyepiga magoti physically na chozi juu kama ulisikia na unakumbuka

 

[Binti Maria]

Usajili wa kudumu hivi hao ACT walishapata? Manake huku Arusha ipo ACT-Tanzania. Ya Zitto ni ACT-Wazalendo (soma wasaliti)!!!

Wanachanganya sana hawa watu..... usaliti ni donda ndugu.....

CHADEMA wote wamelewa viroba lakini nadhani wewe vimepitiliza, pole sana!

 

[Mutakyamirwa]

Enough with the mission to damage the party bullsh*t, we all read the alleged Mkumbo document. That was nothing but power struggle.It happens everywhere, from tiny organisations to Multi National Corporations. Mbowe and Team were scared dead of Zitto radical ideas and they thought they were better of without him. Now they know they were not quite right.

Then he proceeds with 'his radical ideas'! Why negotiations then with radical political personnel? Let's him pursue his mission as per his vision...our eyes to see and our ears to hear of his next destination....

 

[Jadi]

If you had stopped to make this about Kimweri, it would actually make more sense in light of the type of discussion we have here.

I am not the type to dig behind what i write in forums, BUT i challenge you to go through my commenting history dating all the way back to 2008, and find me a single comment that i actually supported CCM. JUST a single comment. In the same manner go through hundreds of comments where i posted in support of opposition on different matters.bare in mind that, i tell things as they are, if Kinana's grassroots campaign is successful, i am not the type to tell lies and say all is well.if being frank is supporting CCM then we all see why CCM is still the party to beat. You can not beat an opponent you don't measure well.

The difference between you and I is, i am as independent as they come, and i am not influenced by cheap politics, I have seen CHADEMA make huge promises that i supported that they are now going out of the way to rescind them. CHADEMA i was expecting to remove CCM out of power back in 2007-2008 is not the same CHADEMA that came to being post 2010 elections.

They had huge momentum, and what did they use of it, acting as if they had keys to the statehouse. Slowly becoming each and every piece just like CCM they have constantly despised.

I am all for strong opposition, and change of political power, for i sincerely believe CCM is gravely under-performing, BUT i am not under any illusion to believe that CDM has exploited CCM shortcomings in a proper manner.

Of all political parties in TZ now, for me only CUF stands matured enough, i have gained massive respect for their handling of controversial 2010 elections.

CHADEMA went downhill after 2010 elections, who would have thought 5 years after the 2010 excitement, CCM would still be breathing comfortably?what happened?CDM was busy looking for traitors, instead of focusing on what made it a political powerhouse circa 2007-2010.

Hivi inawezekana ukatumia kiswahili??!wengine lugha hii ngumu

 

[Mkandara]

Wanaojua historia ya OAU na Morocco na mgogoro wa Sahara Magharibi watakumbuka alichowaambia Nyerere viongozi wenzie wa OAU wakati ule.

Nchi ya Morocco ilikuwa inakataa kila maazimio ya OAU ikisisitiza Sahara Magharibi ni ardhi yake Viongozi wengi wakasema dawa ni kuifukuza Morocco OAU.

Nyerere alipinga na hoja kubwa ilikuwa ukishaifukuza Morocco then what? utawezaje kuidhibiti wakati
sio member wako tena?si unaipa uhuru wa kufanya lolote? nguvu ya kidhibiti Morocco ni only kama Morocco ni member wa OAU...otherwise akishakuwa sio member hatalazimika tena kuisikiliza OAU.Viongozi hawakusikia the rest is history..mgogoro haujaisha hadi leo..

Ni kama ile hadithi ya mtoto anaekojoa sebuleni halafu unamfukuza anaenda kusimama nje anakojoa mkojo akitokea nje kupitia dirishani unaingia sebuleni tena...hujafanya kitu labda uongee na huyo mtoto ujue analilia nini labda kuna pipi tu karibu akipewa its done...

Kuelekea Uchaguzi 2015 CHADEMA now ndio chama cha upinzani chenye nguvu kuna UKAWA ambapo CHADEMA ndio wenye nguvu zaidi na sauti zaidi...Sasa ingawa CHADEMA wanashikilia msimamo wao ambao ni very 'radical' wa kutoongea na Zitto na kuwaita
ACT 'wasaliti' ukweli ni kwamba njia rahisi ya kuidhibiti ACT ni kuongea nao na kujua hasa 'wanataka nini' na kuwapa masharti ya kujiunga na UKAWA na vinginevyo ACT wanaweza kabisa 'kukojoa kutokea dirishani' na the rest ikawa historia.

ACT ikiwa ndani ya UKAWA ..CHADEMA watakuwa na uhakika wa baadhi ya viti vya ubunge watu kama Tundu Lissu,Mbowe na Halima Mdee watapata 'nafuu' ya kupambana na CCM only kuikataa ACT ni kuwaruhusu ACT waweke wagombea wao wa ubunge kwa Lissu,Mdee,Mbowe na wote wengine

sio lazima hao wagombea washinde..lakini wanaweza kugawa kura...the rest will be history.

Najua wapo watu ndani ya CHADEMA wana obsession ya kummaliza Zitto....tatizo ni kwamba 'no one knows the future' .....watu wenye akili hukubali ku negotiate when they have power and are strong watu wajinga huenda ku negotiate wakiwa wameshashindwa au kujeruhiwa.

CHADEMA now they have power....wasisubiri kujeruhiwa.

Mkuu japo hoja yako ina uzito mkubwa lakini unachoshindwa kufahamu ni kwamba sisi Wadanganyika hatupigi mahesabu kujua jawabu kabla ya kutoa hoja. Nakumbuka zamani sana Mwalimu Nyerere aliulizwa kuhusu Muungano wetu katika swala hili hili la serikali 3 akawajibu Jamani 1+1 = 2 sasa mnataka nini hizi 3 za nini? watu kwisha na usomi wao wakabakia kuduwaa..

Hivyo UKAWA ni lazima wajue wanachokifanya japo sisi wengine tupo kizani lakini tumeshazoea kiza, tunaona. Kusema kweli mimi nilidhani hii yote ni chezea toto CCM wasijue kinaendelea nini UKAWA, haswa pale nilipogundua kuwa jina la ACT ni Coation ya vyama, hivyo vyama vyama gani? Nikasema isije kuwa hawa UKAWA wanacheza kama Messi na mguu wa shoto akiwa kulia kwa uwanja kushambulia! isije kuwa ACT imeundwa kwa minajiri hiyo lakini baada ya kusikia viongozi na wanachama wa UKAWA inanipa hasira zaidi kuwa kumbe hapa kuna UBINAFSI na UMIMI. Haya ya Zitto kumbe yana ukweli unaoaminika hata na wenyewe.

Hata hivyo, sintoshangaa mwisho wa siku nikasikia kumbe ilikuwa mchezo wa wanasiasa na hapo UKAWA itawaacha watu wote hoi bin Ttaaban including CCM wenyewe..

 

[Demarco]

If CDM thinks it's doing alright why would it's leaders disperse to counter ZItto meetings upcountry? To me that is the smell of fear, not confidence.

I honestly do not see substance in UKAWA past the constitution movement. It's biggest agendas now is how to share constituents and who will run for presidency under UKAWA! Like seriously, that's not what Tanzanians needs right now. Another power grabbing group. They need committed leaders who would ease their problems.

This CHADEMA which is busy crushing ZITTO based on past problems is the same party that flatout deny any other political party involvement during Opposition Camp Fiasco for KUB. They called CUF as CCM B, called Kafulila Sisimizi, and Mbatia JK Puppet after JK appointed him MP.

Sometime i just smile at the naivety of some CDM supporters.You compare Mbatia and Zitto and you tell me with a straigt face, who is closer to JK/CCM? a guy who is responsible for bringing down the CCM government multiple times or a dude handed over Parliament Post by JK? Can Mbatia really come out with a straight face and attack Zitto being a CCM puppet?while he is in the parliament by mercy of CCM Chairman?

Again, CUF is practically running the government with CCM in Zanzibar, yet, CHADEMA decided to not see that and Accuse ACT a party that hardly has a political year under it's belt being close to CCM. Have they taken a look at Zanzibar government and notice who is the VP there?

What i see CHADEMA not committed to do, is admitting it had also done mistakes and that a fresh start is needed. This MSALITI nonsense continually makes me lose respect of CDM leaders who i believe should be better than that. Seriously Mnyika and Co, get over this childishness. If Mwalim Seif was wise enough to form a union government with his biggest adversaries for the best of everyone. CDM stubbornness only proves to me they lack leadership qualities one expects from a party looking to lead the nation.

Otherwise if CHADEMA insists in sticking to its useless revenge politics, its time someone remind them of what happened in the past with its collaborators as well. Kafulila, Marando, Mbatia and many others.., they were all labelled traitors and puppets of CCM by the very same CDM noise makers. So the only way i would respect them is if they showed some consistency, then may be i would know CHADEMA is a radicals party. But as of now it's turning into a confused hypocrisy party. One that changes its policy,affiliation and stands faster than a hooker changes customers in a busy night.

I think some of us we will agree that ,if Chadema /Ukawa are making such a crucial mistake as has been labelled here then CCM should be so happy as the opposition will loose big-time #adui mwobee njaa.Instead they/you are doing different from the obvious and simple expectation .This serves as a wake up call to Chadema that make them even more alert with the so called "The traitor" also prove to we" The Others" that Chadema was right from the beginning .

In the other hand Zitto/ACT will have time and all the power to do it right as Zitto is so smart plus everybody loves Zitto,charismatic leader ,so overnight they will become the main opposition party then the ruling party ,so he should be happy too ,and leave Chadema/Ukawa/WasakaTonge alone/Them small mind.............Is that make sense!!??

By the way for my understanding Political Party is about the policy and if you look careful ACT and CCM share same policy which is one of the main different factor within parties "UJAMAA".As I would suggest the best party for ACT to join force with is CCM
The Boss

 

[Mkandara]

I think some of us we will agree that ,if Chadema /Ukawa are making such a crucial mistake as has been labelled here then CCM should be so happy as the opposition will loose big-time #adui mwobee njaa.Instead they/you are doing different from the obvious and simple expectation .This serves as a wake up call to Chadema that make them even more alert with the so called "The traitor" also prove to we" The Others" that Chadema was right from the beginning .

In the other hand Zitto/ACT will have time and all the power to do it right as Zitto is so smart plus everybody loves Zitto,charismatic leader ,so overnight they will become the main opposition party then the ruling party ,so he should be happy too ,and leave Chadema/Ukawa/WasakaTonge alone/Them small mind.............Is that make sense!!??

By the way for my understanding Political Party is about the policy and if you look careful ACT and CCM share same policy which is one of the main different factor within parties "UJAMAA".As I would suggest the best party for ACT to join force with is CCM
The Boss

Brother brother, having shared Ideology does not mean shared policies as well! it all depends on what choices we make on the way, it's like traveling on two different buses going the same route.

You kinda remind me of People who believe in marrying Man/Woman within their faith nothing else, while in actual fact He/she might be not a believer and worse than others who aren't of their faith. If we say we beleieve and do not practice what we believe in, do we really have faith? So there is more than just faith and believing.. We ought to live and practice in what we believe in to be of the faith...We can only say CCM are Socialist if and only if they apply Socialism in their Policies..

 

[Kimweri]

So you like seriously believe CDM has gone downhill since 2010? Wonders shall never end....

Such contortions only manage to brand u a hater than a opp. Wellwisher (or better yet, an independent as u claim).....

If you seriously think all is well in CHADEMA, and a party that just expelled its senior leader is doing well, you have got to be in some real love affair with your feelings over CDM. Wake up. 2010 a lot of MP's from CHADEMA had the easy job of just being opposition, in 2015 Tanzanians have had enough time to compare and contrats. only well performing MP's from Chadema will win re-election. Mark these words. It's now even harder for CDM to increase it's tally of MP's. And if you think that UKAWA appointing Slaa for presidency is enough to defeat CCM candidate, you are very delusional.

Good thing about being independent is being able to tell realistic and unrealistic goals. 2015 elections are CCM's to loose. CCM does not even have to campaign that hard, all it needs to do is show people how bad the house is in CDM to create doubt. when doubt is created within people, people will always choose the incumbent. That's politics 101.

You will not like it because you already know which side your bread is buttered.

 

[Kimweri]

I think some of us we will agree that ,if Chadema /Ukawa are making such a crucial mistake as has been labelled here then CCM should be so happy as the opposition will loose big-time #adui mwobee njaa.Instead they/you are doing different from the obvious and simple expectation .This serves as a wake up call to Chadema that make them even more alert with the so called "The traitor" also prove to we" The Others" that Chadema was right from the beginning .

How happy do you want CCM to be? Kinana is no longer working with matofali ya kuchoma vijijini, as CDM is now busy clashing with ACT instead of focusing on CCM. CCM are guaranteed to win the 2015 elections it's written in stone the moment CDM decided to throw wisdom out of the window and persue Lissu plan of sh*tting on everyone face in the name of being right.

Hizi hadithi za traitor this traitor that makes CHADEMA look like COMMUNIST Cuba, have you ever heard a modern political party in the world talk about traitors?people agree to disagree all the time. Hillary went to to toe with Obama and ended up serving as his number 3. The you'r either with us or against us never worked, Otherwise Kick out other UKAWA members, since they are much closer to CCM that ACT will ever wish to be.

In the other hand Zitto/ACT will have time and all the power to do it right as Zitto is so smart plus everybody loves Zitto,charismatic leader ,so overnight they will become the main opposition party then the ruling party ,so he should be happy too ,and leave Chadema/Ukawa/WasakaTonge alone/Them small mind.............Is that make sense!!??

ACT simply instills doubt in CDM,and this plays out to CCM advantage. ACT is not a major party and will not become one in the next few years. ACT serves as a reminder of everything that went wrong in CDM.

By the way for my understanding Political Party is about the policy and if you look careful ACT and CCM share same policy which is one of the main different factor within parties "UJAMAA".As I would suggest the best party for ACT to join force with is CCM
The Boss

CCM chairman was quote on record saying Tanzania is no longer a socialist party, so CCM by default is no longer following that. CCM unfortunately is the strongest party in Tanzania really does not need any help that CDM is so stupidly offering it by rocking it's own boat. You don't set your house on fire just to prove a point that you do not like pesticides. That is what we call stup*dity.

 

[The Boss]

HOJA ANALETA The Boss ( Siku zote Anti Chadema) soma thread zake hapa chini



HOJA ZAKE ZINAKUWA SUPPORTED NA CCM NA VIBARAKA WAKE
Pasco (CCM inblood) Mahesabu (CCM) mtoto wa mjini (CCM) AlP0L0 (CCM Waberoya (ACT K.)mkuu MOTOCHINI(ACT) mkuu mbikagani (ACT mkuu) ID NYINGI Ritz (CCM & ACT)

Ninazo post nyingi tu ambazo naiponda CCM,Kikwete na Zitto pia
hata thred yangu before hii nimemkosoa Zitto.....

Napenda kuikosoa CHADEMA sababu wao ndio tumaini la watu waliochoshwa na CCM
sasa tusingependa CHADEMA waje warudie same mistakes za CCM
ndo maana tuko bize kuikosoa...kuikosoa sio kuichukia...

 

[Kimweri]

I do not agree with you that CHADEMA's rallies has been about ACT, I will consistently say so. I can only remember an outlaw called ‘Afande Sele' and his Supreme Leader throwing all they've got against CDM in their rallies. To remind you, CDM has been talking about upcoming election, Voters Registration issues, Newly Proposed Constitution drama and others. They only touch ACT to inform people to carefully think through before they decide to join newly established parties.

Wow!! CUF or NCCR never did that to CHADEMA when CHADEMA was a one MP party back in 1995-2005. why is it CHADEMA's task to tell Tanzanains to not vote for other opposition party?does this sound right to you?if it sounds right that says a lot about "our way or the highway", mentality in CHADEMA.

Nothing comes naturally, you have to work to achieve something. The editors and pundits write what they think can sell the newspapers and you've pointed out it seems many people want to know what's going on in UKAWA daily, that's what sells, because this union is unprecedented in this country. I also think your understanding of CCM is obsolete that it's only you who can't see how worried they are about the election and UKAWA to be specific. Again CCM is not a union of political parties hence you can't make such a comparison.

By forcing Dr. Slaa to be the presidential Candidate is that what work is? Every member of UKAWA should have equal say in nomination of presidential contender, and by starting to force CDM agenda, this will not end well. Mark my words. I said this before and i will say it again, as long as UKAWA members are not committed philosophical wise in pushing out CCM, i do not see them as viable replacement for CCM. How can you force out a party as well established as CCM when you are busy fighting 1 year old parties?

UKAWA was born out of split out in the New Constitution process, NARC in Kenya is a similar example. Well while UKAWA is not a political party like the All Progressive Congress in Nigeria, they are joined by the common purpose which is to unseat the governing party from power peacefully in elections. With regards to what exactly will happen in the future, that is beyond my comprehension, you and I can only make predictions. I think Zitto made his own decision to start out, so there shouldn't be a pressing need to have him back in the team. May be you should cross your fingers, wait and see whether TZ politicians are ‘sophisticated' or not instead of arguing. There is no need for sophistication, there is a need for change.

Doh, Why is CHADEMA the one making the loudest noise to have ZITTO out of UKAWA?don't you see this as a personal vendetta?i see it as such, and i seriously do not have confidence in a party with personal vendettas.Too toxic.

The truth is ACT has been so carefully established to thwart the successful coalition of the opposition parties in Tanzania, ahead of the 2015 general election. PERIOD.

I don't see it like that at all, ACT is purely a child of CDM lack of proper handling of Zitto and his influence within CDM. ACT would never have seen the light of day if it was not for over reactionary CHADEMA leaders. Blaming CCM for mistakes commited by CDM for me shows even worse judgement call in CHADEMA's party. Good leaders live up to their mess ups and own them, they do not deflect them elsewhere and burry their heads in the sand. Have you ever asked yourself what would have happened if Mbowe and Ndesamburo had not stopped Zitto to contest for CHADEMA chairman seat?what was Mbowe so afraid of that he did not want to be tested in the ballot of his own party?

He didn't walk out of the parliament as they agreed following the ruling party's kidnapping of the Peoples' constitution. He didn't show up in Arusha when his members were beaten and some followers were killed by the ruling party, his party members had no idea where he was. They also had no idea of his whereabouts when they were beaten in Musoma, Tarime just to mention a few. Surprisingly he showed up in TBC saying he thought going out of the parliament was wrong. If you don't work with the team, you go, and I am glad he went out to start his own. I think he should be left alone to do his thing don't you think? Zitto's chapter has been closed in CDM, a lot of things have been said that won't change the fact that they don't want him there.

We all know Zitto politics are based on bipartisanship support, Prof Baregu Flatout denied CHADEMA calls for him to step down from Constitution Commitee?why is no one calling him a traitor?or is the traitor name for him carefully reserved till the day he is no longer in good deeds with Mbowe?
Duh this is stupid, you wish your own leader to show up at a rally that people ends up getting beaten up?what if he disapproved f the violent demonstrations tactic?has it occured to you that may be Zitto clashed with his leaders by deciding to not follow blindly? I see a tendence here, to be a good CHADEMA cadre, you have to be the YES man,even when you do things that are questionable to you. Violence has never been the only solution, and if in a political party everyone is advocating clashes with police as a way to gather votes there is something wrong there.
And by the way, why is this selective justice when dealing with ZItto cases?this is what puzzles me a lot. MBATIA, KAFULILA and CUF it's all forgiven, ZITTO it's not. This is very absurd from CHADEMA seriously.Looks like Rules are made as Mbowe decides in CHADEMA.

Don't be so credulous to believe everything you hear in public, try to make some analysis of your own to stop being so gullible. Haven't you heard? that is if you are reading, don't believe everything you read. Few quiet words of a Wiseman are better than many noisy words of a Leader.

Apparently i have chosen to not believe that Zitto who has worked tirelessly for the better of Tanzania is working with CCM to diminish CDM. If CCM wanted to diminish CDM they should be crazy for choosing a chap who has brought them to their knees countless times. What i fail to believe is CHADEMA theatrics about Zitto being a traitor and never produce anything tangible.When KAFULILA accused RUGEMALILA, we saw transactions from Mkombozi account that were verified independently. I expect same from ZITTO accusations, not some lame made up emails. Why is it so difficult for CHADEMA to produce indisputabe evidence against Zitto, while it hates him so much?looks like you are the one who needs to check your complete belief in what CHADEMA is telling you.

All Progressive Congress (APC) of Nigeria didn't need all opposition parties on their side to rid Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), in fact it seems they only needed three but large not small, surprisingly they started with four but one went out and joined the ruling party. UKAWA doesn't need such a small party as ACT on its side to assure itself of winning. I am not doomed by this stance, in fact I am more politically alive inside by this stance. I am not clouded by love for CDM, I think I am clouded with the fact that everything is going on fine with UKAWA without a suicidal thought of bringing ACT in. ACT Tanzania/Wazalendo is a grenade. I cannot be more astonished why ACT and CCM sings such a similar tune.

Everything is going fine with UKAWA?how?you do realize that CCM won 75% of local government elections, and this was before CHADEMA fiasco right? No dear, nothing is going fine with UKAWA, they are behind schedule in getting CCM out and frustratingly they are stuck in pettiness.

When I read this, I see what I hear or read in many places including newspapers' editors and pundits who make their own analysis. You see, this individual analysis is good, the only problem is that you are not of UKAWA, someone from CCM or ACT cannot tell UKAWA who to choose, they can only debate about it. That's what you are doing, debating about the contenders of another party or union. I am not going to comment on the contents of your statement simply because you are not the right person to have that debate with me. You are entitled to your thoughts and you have the freedom of expression.

I am not someone from CCM or ACT, and whether am right or wrong, we will know come November 2015.I will hate to tell you I TOLD YOU SO.

I don't understand how you define apology, I think if you wrong Mr. X it is Mr. X who deserves the apology not Mr. Y. You claim that ZZK allegedly apologized to CDM publicly, that's not true he never did. Don't confuse a farewell statement from an apology. He only extenuates the allegations that were against him on the umbrella of a utopian democracy.

When you are on a moral high horse you should have done something to deserve it. If CHADEMA thinks Zitto offered a blanket appology it should also offer a blanket apology. DID you not read respect is a two way street? CHADEMA should realise that ZITTO is no longer on their leash and they can not order him around anymore..,For me he is the more civilised of the two. He offered an apology. CHADEMA looks like the worse one here..,

When he was asked about his future in CHADEMA before he left he said he is tired and he wanted to go out, he never wanted to remain in claiming he has been sucked as a member of CDM publicly. Now, now that he has made his calculations he wants to get back, just so fast, that's hypocrisy to fullest. I agree with CDM and its leaders to not allow him back, just let him swim in the large political sea because that's what he wanted, he never wanted to swim with the large team, he is such a virulent pathogen in teamwork

I do not think Zitto wants to get back in CHADEMA, unless you are telling me UKAWA is the same as CHADEMA, which i believe it's not. By tring to show that CHADEMA is the alfa dog in UKAWA you are portraying everything that is wrong in CHADEMA. Inability to incorporate others with different oppinions.

Why should Chadema and leaders be the deciders of Zitto's fate?I would only see logic if out of 4 UKAWA members every party makes a vote and as far as am concerened in a coalition situation CHADEMA vote is similar to CUF Vote, it is similar to NLD as well as Similar to NCCR. That is to say, if UKAWA was ever democratic, CHADEMA Can say NO and ACT may get a chance to join UKAWA. But who am i kidding, we both know CHADEMA and Democracy aren't exactly cousins recently. It's all about what Mbowe says.

 

[Kimweri]

Ninazo post nyingi tu ambazo naiponda CCM,Kikwete na Zitto pia
hata thred yangu before hii nimemkosoa Zitto.....

Napenda kuikosoa CHADEMA sababu wao ndio tumaini la watu waliochoshwa na CCM
sasa tusingependa CHADEMA waje warudie same mistakes za CCM
ndo maana tuko bize kuikosoa...kuikosoa sio kuichukia...

CHADEMA wangekuwa mbali sana kama wangeelewa dhumuni la wakosoaji. Shida siku hizi kumejaa watu sensitive mno wasiopenda kuambiwa, kukosolewa wala kushauriwa. Yani leo hii hata ikitokea Prof Safari katoa ushauri wasioupenda hawachelewi kumwita MSALITI na matusi juu.

kuna siku Ben Saanane alirusha watu roho JF kwa kusema anafaya uamuzi mgumu. Basi humu yalishaanza matusi na kejeli za kila aina. it's really sad.

 

[The Boss]

CHADEMA wangekuwa mbali sana kama wangeelewa dhumuni la wakosoaji. Shida siku hizi kumejaa watu sensitive mno wasiopenda kuambiwa, kukosolewa wala kushauriwa. Yani leo hii hata ikitokea Prof Safari katoa ushauri wasioupenda hawachelewi kumwita MSALITI na matusi juu.

kuna siku Ben Saanane alirusha watu roho JF kwa kusema anafaya uamuzi mgumu. Basi humu yalishaanza matusi na kejeli za kila aina. it's really sad.

Very sad..ukikosoa tu unaakua 'adui'
na hapo hawajashika dola...bado......