You see? Kazi yako ni kutapatapa tu. You've now moved to KQ's profit and loss reports. Anyway, back to subject of discussion. The article says "KQ is still paying loans it took from foreign banks to buy 17 of its 20 planes." I think that should settle this discussion unless you are just too stubborn to understand anything. I haven't seen anywhere written that it took a loan to lease those 20 planes. Secondly, I haven't read anywhere saying KQ has defaulted in servicing the loans. If that was the case, a number of planes would have been auctioned by now. Stop spending a lot of your time and energy trying to "prove a point".