Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread

[Mkohoti]

Alright—this is where football debates get serious 😄
Let’s break it into historical biggest clubs vs current biggest clubs in the Premier League.
🏆 Historically Biggest Clubs (All-Time Status)
These are clubs whose legacy, trophies, and global identity make them “permanently big”:
🔴 Manchester United
Most dominant English club in the Premier League era (under Alex Ferguson)
Massive global fanbase
Still arguably the biggest brand in English football
🔴 Liverpool FC
England’s most successful club in European competitions
Dominated the 70s & 80s
Huge worldwide support
👉 Historically, Liverpool + Man United are the top two.
🔴 Arsenal FC
Long-term consistency
“Invincibles” under Arsène Wenger
Strong identity and history
🔵 Chelsea FC
Became elite after early 2000s
Won Champions League twice
Not as old historically, but now firmly “big”
⚡ Currently Biggest Clubs (Modern Power)
This focuses on recent success, money, and dominance (last ~10–15 years):
🔵 Manchester City
Most dominant team in recent years
Multiple league titles under Pep Guardiola
Won the Champions League
👉 Right now: arguably the strongest team in England
🔴 Liverpool FC
Recent league + Champions League wins
Strong modern era under Jürgen Klopp
🔴 Arsenal FC
Back to competing at the top
Young, exciting squad
🔵 Chelsea FC
Still financially powerful
Inconsistent recently, but still “big”
🤔 The Special Case
⚪ Tottenham Hotspur
Big stadium, big fanbase
BUT… fewer trophies
👉 This is why people argue:
“Are Spurs really a big club or just a rich one?”
⚖️ Simple Comparison
Factor
Historically Biggest
Currently Biggest
Trophies
Man United, Liverpool
Man City, Liverpool
Legacy
Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal
Less important
Current dominance
—
Man City
Fanbase
Man United, Liverpool
Still those two
🧠 Final Insight
👉 A club can be:
Historically big but currently struggling
→ (e.g. Manchester United)
Currently dominant but less historic
→ (e.g. Manchester City)
✅ So the TRUE “biggest clubs overall” (balanced view):
Manchester United
Liverpool FC
Arsenal FC
Chelsea FC
Manchester City
Tottenham Hotspur
If you want, I can rank them �⁠strictly by trophies only or �⁠by fanbase worldwide (Africa included)—those rankings change a lot 👀

Mkuu ungepiga tu kimya, arsenal haina ukubwa wowote haina hata kikombe chochote kikubwa, Nottingham tu imewapga gepu kubwa sana.

 

[Castr]

Upo smart sana we jamaa, hawa vilaza wa Arsenal hawawezi kukuelewa. Wapige spana mpk waelewe.

Huyu jana kapigwa tatu bila. Anaweza maliza msimu nafasi ya saba au ya nane

 

[Castr]

Jumatano tunatoka kuota kuhusu DOUBLE tunahamishia mawazo EPL rasmi

Huyu dakika ya tano anaongozwa moja

 

[Labyrinth 84]

Tatizo Labyrinth unaishi kama Yahya.

Hakuna anayejua unapopatikana kwakua hata uzi wa Newcastle haupo na hutaki kuuanzisha.

Unasubiri Arsenal isuluhu au ifungwe ndiyo unacomment. La sivyo unaishi kama kinega. Mimi sina makosa kuandika nilichoandika kwa sababu ndicho unachopresent hapa online

Nyinyi ni ndugu zangu kwahiyo ni vibaya Mimi kuwa humu kwa ndugu zangu.
Halafu humu Nina mualiko wa pilau la ubingwa kwa ndugu yangu mkorea kama sio arsenal 2004. Nasubiri tu mbebe hio EPL

 

[Castr]

Nyinyi ni ndugu zangu kwahiyo ni vibaya Mimi kuwa humu kwa ndugu zangu.
Halafu humu Nina mualiko wa pilau la ubingwa kwa ndugu yangu mkorea kama sio arsenal 2004. Nasubiri tu mbebe hio EPL

Pilau nilikuambia usilifuate. Ukijichanganya usitulaumu.

Juzi kaongeza na kukupa TV wewe au Flano

 

[Labyrinth 84]

Pilau nilikuambia usilifuate. Ukijichanganya usitulaumu.

Juzi kaongeza na kukupa TV wewe au Flano

Hizi ahadi hazitekelezeki sio kwamba yeye hawezi kutekeleza ila Arsenal hawezi kubeba ubingwa.
Maana ili ziwe valid ni mpaka arsenal achukue ubingwa kitu ambacho hakiwezekani.
Hisense ina mfumo wa vidaa ni mmoja ya mifumo ya ovyoo abaki nalo tu Hilo li tv lake

 

[Castr]

Hizi ahadi hazitekelezeki sio kwamba yeye hawezi kutekeleza ila Arsenal hawezi kubeba ubingwa.
Maana ili ziwe valid ni mpaka arsenal achukue ubingwa kitu ambacho hakiwezekani.
Hisense ina mfumo wa vidaa ni mmoja ya mifumo ya ovyoo abaki nalo tu Hilo li tv lake

Oya mkorea hadi Labyrinth 84 hataki tv yako.

At this point kila mmoja yupo sahihi anachoona.

Shabiki wa Arsenal naona nina chance ya ubingwa mpinzani unaona hakuna hiyo chance.

Tupo kwenye form mbaya na majeruhi kama ilivyokua msimu wa 22/23 na 23/24 kwahiyo confidence yenu ina back up.

Kama shabiki wa Arsenal confidence yangu ni kwa kocha na kikosi kuona wanachofanya uwanjani kinatakiwa kubadilika. Nje ya hapo sina back up nyingine.

Subiri ule ubwabwa

 

[Mbaga Jr]

Angalia tone anayotumia jamaa kuongea, simple sana ila ingekuwa mashabiki wa simba na Yanga matusi, dharau na kejeli ndo yangejaa hapo

 

[BARDIZBAH]

Kashindwa huyu eti madueke na Trossard ndio waweze😀😀

 

[BARDIZBAH]

Dah!! Mpira utanajisika sana mkiwin hii title.

 

[Labyrinth 84]

Oya mkorea hadi Labyrinth 84 hataki tv yako.

At this point kila mmoja yupo sahihi anachoona.

Shabiki wa Arsenal naona nina chance ya ubingwa mpinzani unaona hakuna hiyo chance.

Tupo kwenye form mbaya na majeruhi kama ilivyokua msimu wa 22/23 na 23/24 kwahiyo confidence yenu ina back up.

Kama shabiki wa Arsenal confidence yangu ni kwa kocha na kikosi kuona wanachofanya uwanjani kinatakiwa kubadilika. Nje ya hapo sina back up nyingine.

Subiri ule ubwabwa

Toka Ile game ya forest mtoe draw mlikuja mkalalamika mpira mnaocheza , mpaka Leo sioni tofauti yoyote ya mpira mnaocheza kabisa style ni Ile Ile katika last 15 games zenu approach ni Ile Ile match pekee ambayo mlicheza mpira ni against spurs ambayo ni mbovu kupindukia .

Game nyingine mnashinda sio kwamba mmecheza vizuri Bali ni imetokea tu kama game na everton na nyingine nyingi tu midfielders wenu ni zero creative huyu zubimendi hamna kitu Kai ndio hama kitu kabisa.
100% nina uhakika hambebi kombe sababu hamtengenezi chances kabisa na hakuna kilichobadilika zaidi ya maneno ya arteta.

 

[fuentte]

Huyu dakika ya tano anaongozwa moja

Kwahiyo Castr umepoteza usingizi wako unaenda kuangalia game ya Man Utd ikicheza na Leeds ili uje kujifariji mkuu?

 

[Mbaga Jr]

London is red iliyopauka 😂

 

[Castr]

Kwahiyo Castr umepoteza usingizi wako unaenda kuangalia game ya Man Utd ikicheza na Leeds ili uje kujifariji mkuu?

Kwa kawaida hua naangalia mechi zote kama nina nafasi bila kujali ni ya nani. Unless kama umeona jana

 

[Castr]

Toka Ile game ya forest mtoe draw mlikuja mkalalamika mpira mnaocheza , mpaka Leo sioni tofauti yoyote ya mpira mnaocheza kabisa style ni Ile Ile katika last 15 games zenu approach ni Ile Ile match pekee ambayo mlicheza mpira ni against spurs ambayo ni mbovu kupindukia .

Game nyingine mnashinda sio kwamba mmecheza vizuri Bali ni imetokea tu kama game na everton na nyingine nyingi tu midfielders wenu ni zero creative huyu zubimendi hamna kitu Kai ndio hama kitu kabisa.
100% nina uhakika hambebi kombe sababu hamtengenezi chances kabisa na hakuna kilichobadilika zaidi ya maneno ya arteta.

Umekifafanua nilichokisema. Yes, we are shitty.

But, watch this

 

[Castr]

Ila Atletico 😅

 

[Castr]

Atletico wameshalipwa magoli yao. Wanacheza kifala

 

[Castr]

Eh Atletico wamefufuka

 

[Castr]

Atletico katoboa

 

[Mtaachana]

Upo smart sana we jamaa, hawa vilaza wa Arsenal hawawezi kukuelewa. Wapige spana mpk waelewe.

Arsenal anaenda kubeba UCL na EPL