When Does the Infatuation ends.......?

[EMT]

Dears
Wazima?

Nimejikuta napitiwa na hili kichwani................... Is there a line to draw between infatuation and love? Mara nyingi tumekuwa tukiambiwa kuwa unachokihisi si penzi halisi bali ni (sijui kama tamanio ni right word coz pia kuna lust na infatuation) infatuation. Sasa je kuna kipimo chochote cha kukwambia kuwa this is the zone ambayo ukiipita basi ina maana what you feel is more than infatuation? Kama ipo inapimwaje?

"Infatuation is when you think he's as sexy as Robert Redford, as smart as Henry Kissinger, as noble as Ralph Nader, as funny as Woody Allen, and as athletic as Jimmy Conners. Love is when you realize that he's as sexy as Woody Allen, as smart as Jimmy Connors, as funny as Ralph Nader, as athletic as Henry Kissinger and nothing like Robert Redford – but you'll take him anyway." ~Judith Viorst, Redbook, 1975

1. Kama ni kwa umri............ wa mahusiano ni muda gani unatakiwa kupita ili uwezejua kuwa its real love and not infatuation?

Infatuation au kwa jina lingine, puppy love, inatokea kwa teenagers. Once you passed your teenage, unaachana na puppy love na kwenda kwenye mature love (the opposite of teenage infatuation). Mature love is when teenage infatuation is felt and experienced by people who are not teenagers.

2. Kama ni feelings............is there a line where the feelings based in infatuation zinafade na kupisha hisia za kweli?

Kuna tofauti when a school boy crushes on his female teacher and when a P.HD male student crushes on his female supervisor?

3. Is there a possibility of infatuation lasting for ever??

I think is merely short-lived passion or admiration for someone.

Nauliza tu wapendwa, naombeni mnisaidie

That's all I could help

 

[Mbu]

Mpenzi wewee........ nieleze ni vipi nitaweza kuishi bila wewe........ukiniacha ukaenda zako
Kama ni ukweli yale nasikia kwa majirani, ya kwamba utakujaniacha ukienda zakoo.................

Ukiniacha mi ntalia, ukienda zako ntabaki naumia
Kama ungelijua uoga ninao kukupoteza,Baby, nakuomba baki uishi nami,
nasema Baby nakuomba baki tujaribu tena tunayo nafasi,
ya kuanza tena, tunayo nafasi ya kujikomboa, haturudi nyuma kamweee


mh kama hujafika mwisho basi basi ninaomba nisipewe definition ya infatuation wala matamanio....whatever it is I pray it last longer .........lol Mbu utaniharibia diet kwa raha za pendo lako Laaziz ujue!! lol

.....lol, hahaha....nisiponuniwa mwaka huu, nitalogwa....potelea mbali...kaka BAK upo?
Mambo ya Tanga, si mchezo..waja leo...

 

[Mbu]

hehehe dah nilisema nisirudi tena kwenye hii sredi lakini Mbu bana lol, ningekuwekea chorus lakini nalazimika kulog off.

Hii sred ni ya kuacha wimbo tu ukaondoka.

....lol, loya hala hala mti na macho, una chorus kumbe?....he hehe...

 

[Mbu]

Infatuation au kwa jina lingine, puppy love, inatokea kwa teenagers. Once you passed your teenage, unaachana na puppy love na kwenda kwenye mature love (the opposite of teenage infatuation). Mature love is when teenage infatuation is felt and experienced by people who are not teenagers.

I think is merely short-lived passion or admiration
That's all I could help

....dahh, v.interesting......lakini wajua kwanini mie hushindwa 'tafsiri' mapenzi kwa lugha ya kigeni? ....

Kwangu mie, sina haja kujua na infatuation, sijui admiration, au crush....All I know is Nampenda soulmate wangu, MwanajamiiOne...and i let myluv 4her to lead the way...

Endeleeni na mdahalo.

 

[EMT]

MwanajamiiOne, nimelipenda suali lako, ukipata majibu tafadhali nambie na mimi nijue. lol.
Ila nikijaribu ku-define, tokana na experience yangu, na the way watu wanaongelea kuhusu love and infatuation ni hivi:
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[TD]Infatuation[/TD]
[TD]Lust[/TD]
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[TD]Reasons[/TD]
[TD]Strong reasons[/TD]
[TD]No apparent/weak reason[/TD]
[TD]Sex appeal[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Time frame[/TD]
[TD]Long lasting, quite constant[/TD]
[TD]Comes and goes, strong/weak alternances[/TD]
[TD]Until you get it. lol[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Your needs[/TD]
[TD]You want to give[/TD]
[TD]You want to get[/TD]
[TD]Sexual[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Center of attention[/TD]
[TD]Him/Her[/TD]
[TD]You[/TD]
[TD]Sex[/TD]
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Of course sio kila wakati inakua hivo ila in general that is what I (RussianRoulette) see as general differences. Kuna feelings that cut accross two of these, maybe three... na zingine hu-swing from one to the other depending on the needs etc...

Good analysis. Nakumba kuna usiku mmoja wa manane tulikuwa tunajadili tofauti ya mambo kwenye thread moja na kina The Boss, AshaDii, Lizzy, etc. But tulibase zaidi kwenye tofauti kati ya love, like and lust. Mpaka tukawekewa na automatic software ya kujipima mwenyewe if you love, like or lust someone. Kwa kuongezea au kufafanua uliyosema kwenye hilo jedwali nitakikita zaidi kwenye tofauti kati ya infatuation and love

Infatuation vs Love

1. Infatuation is instant desire - one set of glands calling to another.
Love is friendship that has caught fire. It takes root and grows, one day at a time.

2. Infatuation is marked by a feeling of insecurity. You are excited and eager, but not genuinely happy. There are nagging doubts, unanswered questions, little bits and pieces about your beloved that you would just as soon not examine too closely. It might spoil the dream.
Love is the quiet understanding and mature acceptance of imperfection. It is real. It gives you strength and grows beyond you - to bolster your beloved. You are warmed by their presence, even when they are away. Miles do not separate you. You have so many wonderful little films in your head that you keep replaying. But near or far, you know they are yours, and you can wait.

3. Infatuation says, "We must get married right away. I can't risk losing them."
Love says, "Be patient. Don't panic. Plan your future with confidence."

4. Infatuation has an element of sexual excitement. Whenever you are together, you hope it will end in intimacy.
Love is not based on sex. It is the maturation of friendship, which makes sex so much sweeter. You must be friends before you can be lovers.

5. Infatuation lacks confidence. When they're away, you wonder if they're cheating. Sometimes, you check.
Love means trust. You are calm, secure and unthreatened. They feel your trust, and it makes them even more trustworthy.

6. Infatuation might lead you to do things you will regret, but love never steers you in the wrong direction.
Love is an upper. It makes you feel whole. It completes the circle. It fills the empty space in your heart. Love is elevating. It lifts you up. It makes you look up. It makes you think up. It makes you a better person than you were before. If you have love in your life, it can make up for a great many things you don't have. If there is no love in your life, whatever else there is has a lot less meaning.

LOVE. What is true love? Infatuation, Like, Love, Attraction, Lust.

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

MJ1 hii makitu yako hii ngumu sana bana..leo nina akili za 'kimuungano' ngoja kwanza nika do ze nidiful

kaizer bana hebu........muungano wenyewe ushakuwa rojorojo bana

 

[Mbu]

Good analysis. Nakumba kuna usiku mmoja wa manane tulikuwa tunajadili tofauti ya mambo kwenye thread moja na kina The Boss, AshaDii, Lizzy, etc. But tulibase zaidi kwenye tofauti kati ya love, like and lust. Mpaka tukawekewa na automatic software ya kujipima mwenyewe if you love, like or lust someone. Kwa kuongezea au kufafanua uliyosema kwenye hilo jedwali nitakikita zaidi kwenye tofauti kati ya infatuation and love

Infatuation vs Love

1. Infatuation is instant desire - one set of glands calling to another.
Love is friendship that has caught fire. It takes root and grows, one day at a time.

2. Infatuation is marked by a feeling of insecurity. You are excited and eager, but not genuinely happy. There are nagging doubts, unanswered questions, little bits and pieces about your beloved that you would just as soon not examine too closely. It might spoil the dream.
Love is the quiet understanding and mature acceptance of imperfection. It is real. It gives you strength and grows beyond you - to bolster your beloved. You are warmed by their presence, even when they are away. Miles do not separate you. You have so many wonderful little films in your head that you keep replaying. But near or far, you know they are yours, and you can wait.

3. Infatuation says, "We must get married right away. I can't risk losing them."
Love says, "Be patient. Don't panic. Plan your future with confidence."

4. Infatuation has an element of sexual excitement. Whenever you are together, you hope it will end in intimacy.
Love is not based on sex. It is the maturation of friendship, which makes sex so much sweeter. You must be friends before you can be lovers.

5. Infatuation lacks confidence. When they're away, you wonder if they're cheating. Sometimes, you check.
Love means trust. You are calm, secure and unthreatened. They feel your trust, and it makes them even more trustworthy.

6. Infatuation might lead you to do things you will regret, but love never steers you in the wrong direction.
Love is an upper. It makes you feel whole. It completes the circle. It fills the empty space in your heart. Love is elevating. It lifts you up. It makes you look up. It makes you think up. It makes you a better person than you were before. If you have love in your life, it can make up for a great many things you don't have. If there is no love in your life, whatever else there is has a lot less meaning.

LOVE. What is true love? Infatuation, Like, Love, Attraction, Lust.

.....fabulous. umeiweka sawa kabisa hapa. MwanajamiiOne hujapata jibu tu hapa? Tena hapa 100% umepata jibu where I stand...!

Thx EMT na RussianRoulette....mbarikiwe kwa kulitafsiri vyema "penzi" la infatuation.

 

[Roulette]

is it? Nadhani hizi ni general indications tu and sometimes you could be in love but have some doubts too (or any other sign of infatuation). It doesn't mean you are not in love.
Inabidi muhusika mwenyewe apige hesabu: waht is the general feeling? how does he/she feel most of the time about his/her partner etc. But ukijaribu ku-analyse just a snapshot of the relation unawea ji-confuse aisee. ha ha ha ha ha

Good analysis. Nakumba kuna usiku mmoja wa manane tulikuwa tunajadili tofauti ya mambo kwenye thread moja na kina The Boss, AshaDii, Lizzy, etc. But tulibase zaidi kwenye tofauti kati ya love, like and lust. Mpaka tukawekewa na automatic software ya kujipima mwenyewe if you love, like or lust someone. Kwa kuongezea au kufafanua uliyosema kwenye hilo jedwali nitakikita zaidi kwenye tofauti kati ya infatuation and love

Infatuation vs Love

1. Infatuation is instant desire - one set of glands calling to another.
Love is friendship that has caught fire. It takes root and grows, one day at a time.

2. Infatuation is marked by a feeling of insecurity. You are excited and eager, but not genuinely happy. There are nagging doubts, unanswered questions, little bits and pieces about your beloved that you would just as soon not examine too closely. It might spoil the dream.
Love is the quiet understanding and mature acceptance of imperfection. It is real. It gives you strength and grows beyond you - to bolster your beloved. You are warmed by their presence, even when they are away. Miles do not separate you. You have so many wonderful little films in your head that you keep replaying. But near or far, you know they are yours, and you can wait.

3. Infatuation says, "We must get married right away. I can't risk losing them."
Love says, "Be patient. Don't panic. Plan your future with confidence."

4. Infatuation has an element of sexual excitement. Whenever you are together, you hope it will end in intimacy.
Love is not based on sex. It is the maturation of friendship, which makes sex so much sweeter. You must be friends before you can be lovers.

5. Infatuation lacks confidence. When they're away, you wonder if they're cheating. Sometimes, you check.
Love means trust. You are calm, secure and unthreatened. They feel your trust, and it makes them even more trustworthy.

6. Infatuation might lead you to do things you will regret, but love never steers you in the wrong direction.
Love is an upper. It makes you feel whole. It completes the circle. It fills the empty space in your heart. Love is elevating. It lifts you up. It makes you look up. It makes you think up. It makes you a better person than you were before. If you have love in your life, it can make up for a great many things you don't have. If there is no love in your life, whatever else there is has a lot less meaning.

LOVE. What is true love? Infatuation, Like, Love, Attraction, Lust.

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

“Infatuation is when you think he’s as sexy as Robert Redford, as smart as Henry Kissinger, as noble as Ralph Nader, as funny as Woody Allen, and as athletic as Jimmy Conners. Love is when you realize that he’s as sexy as Woody Allen, as smart as Jimmy Connors, as funny as Ralph Nader, as athletic as Henry Kissinger and nothing like Robert Redford – but you’ll take him anyway.” ~Judith Viorst, Redbook, 1975

Mh!..............Ukweli huu wauma

“Infatuation au kwa jina lingine, puppy love, inatokea kwa teenagers. Once you passed your teenage, unaachana na puppy love na kwenda kwenye mature love (the opposite of teenage infatuation). Mature love is when teenage infatuation is felt and experienced by people who are not teenagers.

EMT aksante kwa maelezo murua............what if kwenye uteenager wako ulikuwa 'saint' hukuwahiexperience hiyo feeling mpaka umekuja ukubwani, Cant someone strate with mature love right away?? Nauliza tu

“Kuna tofauti when a school boy crushes on his female teacher and when a P.HD male student crushes on his female supervisor?
I think is merely short-lived passion or admiration for someone.

That's all I could help

Aksante sana this I agree with you ingawa maswali hayakosekaniki............how long should that crush last for you to know it is not love? Je kuna muda lets say miezi mitatu ikipita unawezaonyeshwa dalili kuwa noe the infatuation is fading au mpaka utendwe vimbwanga ndo utazinduka toka ndotoni?

 

[Kongosho]

Mmh, hivi hakuna PHD ya mapenzi ya darasani?
Praktiko naona ngumu bora nianzie siori.

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

is it? Nadhani hizi ni general indications tu and sometimes you could be in love but have some doubts too (or any other sign of infatuation). It doesn't mean you are not in love.
Inabidi muhusika mwenyewe apige hesabu: waht is the general feeling? how does he/she feel most of the time about his/her partner etc. But ukijaribu ku-analyse just a snapshot of the relation unawea ji-confuse aisee. ha ha ha ha ha

RR umesoma mawazo yangu aisee.........mie siwezi kujieleza umenielezea sawia, nikipata jibu la swali lako nitaufunga mjadala

 

[EMT]

....dahh, v.interesting......lakini wajua kwanini mie hushindwa 'tafsiri' mapenzi kwa lugha ya kigeni? ....

Kwangu mie, sina haja kujua na infatuation, sijui admiration, au crush....All I know is Nampenda soulmate wangu, MwanajamiiOne...and i let myluv 4her to lead the way...

Endeleeni na mdahalo.

Mkuu unajua hili neno la Kiswahili la "kupenda" limebeba maana nyingi sasa. Neno "kupenda" linaweza kurejelea aina za hisia, hali na mitazamo tofauti, kuanzia ridhaa ya jumla (unampenda soulmate wako, MwanajamiiOne), hadi mvuto mkali kati ya watu (Unampenda mke wako). Uanuwai wa matumizi na maana, pamoja na utata wa hisia zinazohusika, hufanya kuwe na ugumu katika ufafanuzi wa dhana hii, hata ikilinganishwa na hali zingine za kihisia.

Kwenye lugha ya Kiingereza vitu kama like, love na lust ni vtiyu tofauti kabisa. kwenye lugha yetu vyote vinaweza kuitwa ni "kupenda". Hata hivyo, neno la Kiingereza "love" linaweza kuwa na maana tofauti, lakini zinazohusiana, katika miktadha tofauti. Mara nyingi, lugha nyingine hutumia maneno mbalimbali kueleza baadhi ya dhana tofauti ambazo lugha ya Kiingereza hutumia neno "love" kurejelea, mfano mmoja ni wingi wa maneno ya Kigiriki yanayorejelea "mapendo".

Lakini ukweli unabakia kwamba kuna categories za mating na reproduction. Kuna vitu kama "lust" (hamu) ambayo inalenga zaidi kwenye sexual gravitation. Kuna attraction (mvuto) ambayo inalenga zaidi kwenye energy and focused attention on a potential mate and accompanied by feeling of exhilaration, intrusive thinking about a mate, and emotional union. Pia ipo attachment amabyo inalenga zaidi kwenye kuwa comfort. And so on.

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

....dahh, v.interesting......lakini wajua kwanini mie hushindwa 'tafsiri' mapenzi kwa lugha ya kigeni? ....

Kwangu mie, sina haja kujua na infatuation, sijui admiration, au crush....All I know is Nampenda soulmate wangu, MwanajamiiOne...and i let myluv 4her to lead the way...

Endeleeni na mdahalo.

Mbu umeona eh?.............. Yaani nafikiri ni bora kila mtu akawa na definition yake ya mapenzi maana mwe!! hukawii kujihisisha manegative aisee!

Soulmate................Xoxo

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

Mmh, hivi hakuna PHD ya mapenzi ya darasani?
Praktiko naona ngumu bora nianzie siori.

Hii post yako Kongosho imenifanya nicheke aisee........dah

 

[Kongosho]

maana kuna vitu viingi mno ambavyo lwenye maisha ya kila siku sivioni zaidi ya kupenda kama kupenda tu.

Ikiwa kwa kiinglish maneno yanakuwa meeeengi.

Hii post yako Kongosho imenifanya nicheke aisee........dah

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

maana kuna vitu viingi mno ambavyo lwenye maisha ya kila siku sivioni zaidi ya kupenda kama kupenda tu.

Ikiwa kwa kiinglish maneno yanakuwa meeeengi.

Una kheri my dia Kongosho............ omba uendelee kuwa kipofu hivyo hivyo.

 

[Mbu]

Mbu umeona eh?.............. Yaani nafikiri ni bora kila mtu akawa na definition yake ya mapenzi maana mwe!! hukawii kujihisisha manegative aisee!

Soulmate................Xoxo

......kabisaa.....

I have been in-love before, najua tofauti ya loving sumone, and being in-love with sumone.
Halafu, huko kuwa in-love pia kuna viwango vyake....yategemea na maturity, experiences, na hata 'infatuations' za mtu....

Najua thamani ya pendo, kupendwa (kiukweli) na jinsi ya kujithaminisha na kulithaminisha pendo, na hii yatokana na past experiences...
Ndo maana nasema definition yangu nimpendavyo mwj1 pia hailingani na definition na sababu ya upendo wake kwangu. Mpaka mapenzi yatapoisha ndipo labda waweza tafsiri ilikuwa crush, lust, etc....japo hata walooana kuna wanaopitia phase hizi za kujiuliza " nilimuolea nini huyu?"....

I call them four seasons of love....kama ilivyo majira ya joto mapenzi motomoto, autumn....yanaanza kupoa, winter yanapokuwa baridi, na spring...yanapochipuka upya...

Acheni tu mapenzi ya run dunia.

 

[Tangawizi]

It ends the day you sleep in your tomb!

 

[EMT]

A GOOD TABLE/MATRIX... kuna study moja kwenye management, inaonyesha kwamba majority ya smart people huwa hawafall kwenye one box, they smartly meander through the boxes throughout the lifetime

please nisaidie hapo

Huwa wanasema wanadamu need to "box" other people, that gives them the comfort knowing "who they are dealing with." Many smart people (ex: polymaths) are not easily "box"able – increasing the difficulty to being social.

PS to Mod Russian Roulette: Usije ukanipa ban hivi hivi. Sina maana kuwa Invisible wa JF is not smart and hence noise generator. lol

 

[EMT]

.....fabulous. umeiweka sawa kabisa hapa. MwanajamiiOne hujapata jibu tu hapa? Tena hapa 100% umepata jibu where I stand...!

Ila huyu RussianRoulette bado ni mbishi. She is not easily "box"able. Nina wasiwasi lazima atakuwa ni ex polymath tuu.

is it? Nadhani hizi ni general indications tu and sometimes you could be in love but have some doubts too (or any other sign of infatuation). It doesn't mean you are not in love. Inabidi muhusika mwenyewe apige hesabu: waht is the general feeling? how does he/she feel most of the time about his/her partner etc. But ukijaribu ku-analyse just a snapshot of the relation unawea ji-confuse aisee. ha ha ha ha ha