US Election Coverage 2008

[jmushi1]

By contrast, his opposition to the war in Iraq — and call for an end to the U.S. combat role — helped him overcome his rivals in the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Lately, his efforts to explain how he will use what he learns from U.S. commanders to refine his proposals have brought charges from Republicans and complaints from Democratic liberals that he seems to be shifting his Iraq policy toward the political center. But Obama maintains his basic goal of ending the U.S. combat role soon remains unchanged and that he's always said the U.S. withdrawal must be done carefully.

More stops in Mideast, Europe

Obama also arranged to visit Jordan, Israel, Germany, France and England, traveling aboard a jet chartered by his presidential campaign, before his return to the United States. The weeklong trip marks his only foreign excursion as a presidential candidate; McCain has visited Canada, Colombia and Mexico, in part to highlight Obama's opposition to trade deals with those allies.

Few citizens in impoverished Afghanistan were aware of Obama's unannounced visit, and few have been following the U.S. presidential race, being too busy eking out an existence amid soaring violence and with limited access to news media.

But some interviewed Saturday said they would welcome an Obama presidency if he could help their country end the fighting, corruption and poverty that have crippled it for so long.
"Obama is a good person," said Abdul Basir, 40, a former army officer. "During his campaign I heard he was saying that if I become president I will withdraw the U.S. troops from Iraq and bring them to Afghanistan and I will attack on the terror center on other side of border (in Pakistan). It is very important and I appreciated that."

 

[jmushi1]

McCain has visited Canada, Colombia and Mexico, in part to highlight Obama's opposition to trade deals with those allies.

Hapo juu naona Babu Mc Cain alikwenda kumchongea Obama kwa Sinclair huko Canada kwa niaba ya BUSHES!
Wakati mwenzake anafanya ziara ya kusolve matatizo ya dunia yeye nazunguka kuchonganisha na kudai interests za kibiashara za Canada na Sinclair wao wakisaidiana na kina Clinton na Bushes!
JK naye ndani!

 

[BAK]

Ziara yake ni muhimu sana lakini Republicans ni wizi wa kura. Mimi naamini katika chaguzi za 2000 na 2004 waliiba kura kwa kutumia mashine za kupiga kura ambazo zimetengenezwa na support mkubwa wa Republicans. Nawashangaa sana Democratics maana juhudi kubbwa zilizofanywa na vyombo vya habari kuonyesha upungufu mkubwa kuhusiana na mashine hizo wao wamenyamaza kimya badala ya kulivalia njuga swala hilo. Na ninaamini kuna maeneo ya Ohio na Florida zitatumika tena mwaka huu.

Pili Kichaka na uncle wake wangependa sana kuona Mcsame anashinda ili kuendeleza serra zao za uvamizi na kukata kodi kwa matajiri. Hivyo sitashangaa kabisa kama opinion polls zikiwa zinamuonyesha Obama anaweka gap kubwa kati yake na McSame basi kutakuwa na 'shambulio' ndani ya Marekani litalofanywa na 'magaidi' wa kiarabu (Nadhani unaelewa ninachokizungumza hapa) wiki chache kabla ya uchaguzi. Pia kuna uwezekano wa kuanzisha 'varangati' lingine na Iran pamoja na kuwa hawana ubavu wa kufanya hivyo. Wanataka sana vita hii iwe kati ya NATO na Iran ili kuongeza nguvu ya hali na mali maana wanajua jeshi lao liko hoi bin taabani na hazina pia haina kitu. Na Wamarekani walivyo na vchwa vya panzi vya kutotaka kufikiri basi opinion polls zitageuka na hivyo Mcsame kupata ushindi wa kirahisi hivyo Republicans kuendelea kuwemo ndani ya WH kwa miaka minne mingine.

 

[jmushi1]

Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan:

report BERLIN (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told a German magazine he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.

In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.

"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

It is the first time he has backed the withdrawal timetable put forward by Obama, who is visiting Afghanistan and us set to go to Iraq as part of a tour of Europe and the Middle East.

Obama has called for a shift away from a "single-minded" focus on Iraq and wants to pull out troops within 16 months, instead adding U.S. soldiers to Afghanistan.

Asked if he supported Obama's ideas more than those of John McCain, Republican presidential hopeful, Maliki said he did not want to recommend who people should vote for.

"Whoever is thinking about the shorter term is closer to reality. Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems."

Maliki, who is due to visit Germany this week, has suggested a timetable should be set for a U.S. withdrawal but U.S. officials have been more cautious, despite an improving security situation.

The White House said on Friday President George W. Bush and Maliki had agreed that a security deal under negotiation should set a "time horizon" for meeting "aspirational goals" for reducing U.S. forces in Iraq
"The Americans have found it difficult to agree on a concrete timetable for the exit because it seems like an admission of defeat to them. But it isn't," Maliki told Der Spiegel.

Some five years after the U.S.-led invasion, there are still some 146,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

(Reporting by Madeline Chambers; Editing by Jon Boyle)

 

[jmushi1]

Linki ya video ya kibao maarufu cha kampeni cha Obama kinachokwenda kwa jina la Signed Sealed Delivered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXC_lab-34

Na chini ni lyrics za kibao hicho kinachowapagawisha wazungu kiasi cha kushangaza.

STEVIE WONDER LYRICS

Complimentary "Signed, Sealed, Delivered" Ringtone

"Signed, Sealed, Delivered"

Like a fool I went and stayed too long
Now I'm wondering if your love's still strong
Oo, baby, here I am, signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours!

Then that time I went and said goodbye
Now I'm back and not ashamed to cry
Oo, baby, here I am, signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours!

Here I am baby
Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm yours
(You got my future in your hands)
Here I am baby
Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm yours
(You got my future in your hands)

I've done a lot of foolish things
That I really didn't mean, didn't I?

Seen a lot of things in this old world
When I touch them, they mean nothing, girl
Oo, baby, here I am, signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours!

Oowee baby, you set my soul on fire
That's why I know you're my heart's only desire

Here I am baby
Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm yours
(You got my future in your hands)
Here I am baby
Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm yours
(You got my future in your hands)

 

[BAK]

Iran's Saeed Jalili, left, and other negotiators prepare for talks Saturday in Geneva

NBC, MSNBC and news services
updated 17 minutes ago

GENEVA - The United States said on Saturday after inconclusive international talks with Iran's nuclear envoy that Tehran must choose between cooperation or confrontation and give up sensitive nuclear work.

"We hope the Iranian people understand that their leaders need to make a choice between cooperation, which would bring benefits to all, and confrontation, which can only lead to further isolation," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in a statement after the talks.

Saturday's talks were the first to include the United States.

McCormack said William Burns, the senior U.S. diplomat at the talks, did not meet separately with any member of the Iranian delegation and that EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana told Iran it must give a "clear answer" to an offer made by world powers within two weeks.

Europe and the United States want Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment program, but Iran made clear Saturday that it has no intention of doing so.

Burns did not speak publicly after today's session. McCormack said Burns told Iran that the United States and its allies "are serious that Iran must suspend uranium enrichment to have negotiations involving the United States."

Europe: Still waiting for right answer
Solana told reporters after the talks with Iranian negotiator Saeed Jalili that the two would speak either by telephone or personally in two weeks.

"The meeting was constructive, but we didn't get still the answer we were looking for," Solana said.

Jalili asked that Western powers not turn away from negotiations. "Iran is calling on the Western powers to resume the dialogue," he said.

U.S. sits in
July 19: For the first time, a U.S. diplomat sat in on nuclear talks with Iran. NBC's Janet Shamlian reports.

The presence of Burns had led to hopes of compromise on a formula under which Iran would agree to stop expanding its enrichment activities.

In exchange, six powers - the five permanent U.N. Security Council members and Germany - would hold off on passing new U.N. sanctions against the Islamic Republic.

But doubt was cast over the value of talks less then an hour after they started, when Keyvan Imani, a member of the Iranian delegation, appeared to indicate that Tehran was not prepared to budge on enrichment.

"Suspension - there is no chance for that," he told reporters gathered in the courtyard of Geneva's ornate City Hall, the venue of the negotiations.

There also appeared to be little progress inside the talks.

A Western diplomat in Geneva familiar with their substance said the Iranians were focusing on "the second or third step" of substantial negotiations without addressing what the six powers say is a prerequisite for such talks to happen - a freeze of their enrichment program.

The enrichment issue is key because the activity can produce either fuel for nuclear power stations or the material used in the fissile core of warheads. Iran has defied three sets of U.N. sanctions demanding it cease its program, saying it has a right to its peaceful uses under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. But there is growing concern the Islamic Republic might want to build nuclear weapons instead.

Recent Iranian statements suggest Tehran is looking to improve ties with the United States, with officials speaking positively of deliberations by the U.S. administration to open an interests section - an informal diplomatic presence - in Tehran after closing its embassy decades ago.

Presence in Iran?
The U.S. said the Geneva talks would focus only on the nuclear issue, but Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Friday they could also result in agreements to open a U.S. interest-protection bureau and have direct flights between the two nations.

U.S. interests in Iran are now represented by the Swiss Embassy in Tehran.

Iran and the United States broke off diplomatic relations after the 1979 Islamic Revolution and the hostage crisis at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Official contacts between the two countries are extremely rare.

Imani said Tehran had not yet received a proposal from the U.S. on opening a representation but would "study it positively" if it did.

He downplayed the presence of Burns - even though the Americans had previously said they would not talk with the Iranians on nuclear issues unless Tehran was ready to stop all enrichment activity. "He is (just) a member of the delegation" of the six countries engaging Iran on the nuclear issue, Imani said.

He also denied that the "freeze-for-freeze" formula - a stop to Iranian enrichment growth in exchange for no new U.N. sanctions - was formally on the agenda of the Geneva talks, saying the two sides were meeting to discuss common points of their diverging plans to ease nuclear tensions.

 

[jmushi1]

Sen. Obama visits Nairobi slum

Illinois Democrat, wife take HIV tests to highlight Africa's AIDS epidemic

KISUMU, Kenya - Sen. Barack Obama visited one of the world’s worst slums Sunday, where he told residents he wants everyone in America to know about their plight and promised to push the U.S. and Kenyan government to help.

About a third of Nairobi’s total population, at least 700,000 people, are crammed into a single square mile in the slum of Kibera, with little access to running water and other basic services.

"I love all of you, my brothers — all of you, my sisters" Obama told a crowd in Kibera. "I want to make sure everybody in American knows Kibera. That’s why we have all the news crews."

The Illinois Democrat arrived in Kenya Thursday for his first visit to his father’s homeland since taking office.

On Sunday, he visited a program to start small businesses, and also stopped by an AIDS prevention program in Kibera.

The program is affiliated with the University of North Carolina and he met with students who are part of local abstinence campaigns.

The group, called Carolina for Kibera, estimates one in five of the slum’s population is HIV positive.

AIDS prevention

AIDS prevention has been a theme of Obama’s visit. On Saturday, he and his wife, Michelle, underwent public HIV tests at a hospital in Kenyan city of Kisumu in an effort to reduce the public stigma associated with HIV testing.

"Everybody in Kibera needs the same opportunities to go to school, to start businesses, to have enough to eat, to have decent clothes," Obama said over a megaphone as hundreds of cheering people surrounded him.

The slum stands in sharp contrast to the elegant homes, luxurious hotels and impressive office buildings found elsewhere in the city.

Kibera residents are mostly squatters, with no legal claim on the land.

Kenyans have claimed Obama as one of their own, even though he was mostly raised in Hawaii and did not know his Kenyan father well.

Obama’s father, also named Barack, grew up herding goats and going to tin-roof schools, but he won a college scholarship in Hawaii. There, he married Obama’s mother.

The two soon separated, however, and Obama’s father eventually returned to Kenya and worked as a government economist.

His father died in a car crash in 1982, leaving three wives, six sons and a daughter.

Earlier Sunday, Obama flew to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia.

The area is at the epicenter of a severe drought that has hit the Horn of Africa region after erratic and insufficient rains during the April-June season.

Malnutrition
Malnutrition levels in parts of the northeastern province are more than double the 15 percent level at which an emergency is declared by U.N. standards.

Obama said he inspected a project to help prevent disease among the herds of cattle, goats and camels raised by the region’s Muslim herders.

He also learned about efforts to resolve conflicts among local clans, which he said is important for preventing the violence and turmoil in neighboring countries.

Obama and his family traveled Saturday to Nyangoma-Kogelo, a tiny village in the rural west where his father grew up.

Obama stopped at his father’s grave and also visited his 85-year-old grandmother.

Huyu mtu ni mwenzetu...Ni raia wa dunia hii aliyetokea hapo Kenya.

 

[jmushi1]

Iran's Saeed Jalili, left, and other negotiators prepare for talks Saturday in Geneva

NBC, MSNBC and news services
updated 17 minutes ago

GENEVA - The United States said on Saturday after inconclusive international talks with Iran's nuclear envoy that Tehran must choose between cooperation or confrontation and give up sensitive nuclear work.

"We hope the Iranian people understand that their leaders need to make a choice between cooperation, which would bring benefits to all, and confrontation, which can only lead to further isolation," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in a statement after the talks.

Saturday's talks were the first to include the United States.

McCormack said William Burns, the senior U.S. diplomat at the talks, did not meet separately with any member of the Iranian delegation and that EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana told Iran it must give a "clear answer" to an offer made by world powers within two weeks.

Europe and the United States want Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment program, but Iran made clear Saturday that it has no intention of doing so.

Burns did not speak publicly after today's session. McCormack said Burns told Iran that the United States and its allies "are serious that Iran must suspend uranium enrichment to have negotiations involving the United States."

Europe: Still waiting for right answer
Solana told reporters after the talks with Iranian negotiator Saeed Jalili that the two would speak either by telephone or personally in two weeks.

"The meeting was constructive, but we didn't get still the answer we were looking for," Solana said.

Jalili asked that Western powers not turn away from negotiations. "Iran is calling on the Western powers to resume the dialogue," he said.

U.S. sits in
July 19: For the first time, a U.S. diplomat sat in on nuclear talks with Iran. NBC's Janet Shamlian reports.

The presence of Burns had led to hopes of compromise on a formula under which Iran would agree to stop expanding its enrichment activities.

In exchange, six powers — the five permanent U.N. Security Council members and Germany — would hold off on passing new U.N. sanctions against the Islamic Republic.

But doubt was cast over the value of talks less then an hour after they started, when Keyvan Imani, a member of the Iranian delegation, appeared to indicate that Tehran was not prepared to budge on enrichment.

"Suspension — there is no chance for that," he told reporters gathered in the courtyard of Geneva's ornate City Hall, the venue of the negotiations.

There also appeared to be little progress inside the talks.

A Western diplomat in Geneva familiar with their substance said the Iranians were focusing on "the second or third step" of substantial negotiations without addressing what the six powers say is a prerequisite for such talks to happen — a freeze of their enrichment program.

The enrichment issue is key because the activity can produce either fuel for nuclear power stations or the material used in the fissile core of warheads. Iran has defied three sets of U.N. sanctions demanding it cease its program, saying it has a right to its peaceful uses under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. But there is growing concern the Islamic Republic might want to build nuclear weapons instead.

Recent Iranian statements suggest Tehran is looking to improve ties with the United States, with officials speaking positively of deliberations by the U.S. administration to open an interests section — an informal diplomatic presence — in Tehran after closing its embassy decades ago.

Presence in Iran?
The U.S. said the Geneva talks would focus only on the nuclear issue, but Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Friday they could also result in agreements to open a U.S. interest-protection bureau and have direct flights between the two nations.

U.S. interests in Iran are now represented by the Swiss Embassy in Tehran.

Iran and the United States broke off diplomatic relations after the 1979 Islamic Revolution and the hostage crisis at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Official contacts between the two countries are extremely rare.

Imani said Tehran had not yet received a proposal from the U.S. on opening a representation but would "study it positively" if it did.

He downplayed the presence of Burns — even though the Americans had previously said they would not talk with the Iranians on nuclear issues unless Tehran was ready to stop all enrichment activity. "He is (just) a member of the delegation" of the six countries engaging Iran on the nuclear issue, Imani said.

He also denied that the "freeze-for-freeze" formula — a stop to Iranian enrichment growth in exchange for no new U.N. sanctions — was formally on the agenda of the Geneva talks, saying the two sides were meeting to discuss common points of their diverging plans to ease nuclear tensions.

Iran naona wanatumia nafasi ambayo Bush alichemsha na sasa hawawezi kumdhibiti moja kwa moja kwasababu ya cowboy politics za Bush.
Obama ndiye mwenye credibility ya kusolve hayo matatizo kwani kama wa iran hawatamsikiliza basi ina maana hawaisikilizi dunia.

Na sasa huyu bwana yuko kwenye ziara ya wiki moja na maneno yangu kuwa kuna mgawanyiko mkubwa ndani ya vyombo vya ulinzi na usalama kuhusiana na sera za Bush amabzo kama wasipokuwa makini zitaliangusha taifa hili la marekani kama ilivokuwa kwa USSR.

Na kwasababu Bush alishapanga vita na Iran..Bado inabidi tusubiri kitakachotekea kwani ni wazi Bush ni rais lakini kama ni urais wa dunia basi Obama anao.

 

[Susuviri]

Humu pame pwaya, sijui kila mtu yuko likizo except for my brother JMushi1 na bubu!
Anyway, salamu kwa Nyani, naomba nionyeshe ile machinery ya GOP that works so smotthly inavyoendelea kufanya kazi vizuri; kwikwikwi

As Reuters reported earlier today, Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki has voiced his support for Obama's withdrawal plan. Needless to say, such support is not a PR victory for the Bush administration. And so it was no doubt embarrassing when, according to ABC's Jake Tapper, the White House sent the article--accidentally--to reporters:

The White House this afternoon accidentally sent to its extensive distribution list a Reuters story headlined "Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan - magazine." [...}

The White House employee had intended to send the article to an internal distribution list, ABC News' Martha Raddatz reports, but hit the wrong button.

The misfire comes at an odd time for Bush foreign policy, at a time when Obama's campaign alleges the president is moving closer toward Obama's recommendations about international relations -- sending more U.S. troops to Afghanistan, discussing a "general time horizon" for U.S. troop withdrawal and launching talks with Iran.

Yaani McBush team inachekesha sana, mimi nadhanikwenye GOP convention GOP wanaweza wakamkataa babu maana hata official campaign season haijaanza Babu ni mchemsho tupu!
😉

 

[Susuviri]

JMushi1: footnot to the article you posted about Al Maliki agreeing with Obama:

Via e-mail, a prominent Republican strategist who occasionally provides advice to the McCain campaign said, simply, "We're fucked."
That's in response, in particular, to the news that Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki endorsed Obama's timeline for getting US troops out of Iraq.

 

[Susuviri]

Babu anazidi kujichimbia.... duh hiyo GOP convention inaweza ikaleta candidate mwingine

An interesting exchange between the campaigns on the Iraqi prime minister, in which a McCain aide accuses Prime Minister al-Maliki of playing "domestic politics" - which, being a politician, he surely is. It's his job.

But aren't domestic politics just another way of saying "what Iraqis want"? Seems like it's tough for McCain to publicly reject Maliki's stance here, or to attack him for pandering to Iraqi voters.

ALSO: The Democratic Party sends out a 2004 McCain interview in which he appears to acknowledge that:

QUESTION: Let me give you a hypothetical, senator. What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there? I understand it's a hypothetical, but it's at least possible.

McCAIN: Well, if that scenario evolves, then I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because- if it was an elected government of Iraq-and we've been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government, then I think we would have other challenges, but I don't see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people.

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Humu pame pwaya, sijui kila mtu yuko likizo except for my brother JMushi1 na bubu!
Anyway, salamu kwa Nyani, naomba nionyeshe ile machinery ya GOP that works so smotthly inavyoendelea kufanya kazi vizuri; kwikwikwi

Yaani McBush team inachekesha sana, mimi nadhanikwenye GOP convention GOP wanaweza wakamkataa babu maana hata official campaign season haijaanza Babu ni mchemsho tupu!
😉

..hata states kwenyewe vuguvugu la kampeni limepoa kidogo. watu wamechukua likizo,maana ligi kati ya mama na kaka ilikuwa moto.

..labda sasa tuanze kujadili hili la al maliki na serikali ya bush kuanza kutekeleza sera za obama!

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Babu anazidi kujichimbia.... duh hiyo GOP convention inaweza ikaleta candidate mwingine

..hayo uliyoya-quote ndio yale yanayoitwa kisu cha pande mbili. kinakata kote kote. hapo sijui atakuwa na lipi la kusema. halafu jamaa wamemuwahi asije akajitia aibu mwenyewe. how noble of them for that!

 

[The Truth]

Obama ‘slave’ shirt sparks lawsuit threat
Designer claims unhappy customer got assaulted, now wants to sue

by metro / metro new york

JUL 17, 2008

When a 25-year-old Manhattan graduate student who was assaulted Tuesday night got dressed that morning, she probably didn’t anticipate that her T-shirt would provoke four teens into shoving her, pulling out her earphones and spitting in her face.

Wearing the $69 T-shirt that sparked the alleged assault, designer Apollo Braun flashes a peace sign. (Photo: )

Then again, with a shirt sporting the slogan, “Obama is my slave,” it may have been wise to consider the possibility.

Now she’s suing the $69 shirt’s designer, Apollo Braun, for “all he’s got,” the designer claims.

But the Israeli-born Braun — born Doron Braunshtein — says what allegedly happened to his now-disgruntled customer isn’t his fault — and that his outrageous design reflects not his views but those of “ordinary WASPs.”

“For a lot of people, when they see Obama, they see a slave. People think America is not ready for a black president,” Braun told Metro from his five-year-old Orchard Street boutique.

Braun claims that after the customer — who did not return repeated calls from Metro — threatened to sue, he contacted his own lawyer, who assured him he was shielded by the

First Amendment from any legal action.

The ugly incident over the ugly shirt took place at 8:30 p.m. in Union Square, Braun told Metro, when four African-American female teenagers accosted the student, cursed at her for her shirt and pushed her. According to the designer, the student walked away, but the girls followed her, one pulling the earphones out of her ears, another spitting in her face.

This isn’t Braun’s first sartorial criticism of the Democratic presidential presumptive nominee. He has also sold shirts with slogans such as “Jews Against Obama,” “Obama = Hitler” and “Who Killed Obama?” — which he claims was so popular, he moved 1,200 pieces.

“I can’t stand Obama,” Braun says, adding that it’s not because the Illinois senator is black. “That’s the only thing I like about him. He opens the door for other minorities.”

“He reminds me of Adolf Hitler,” Braun explained, adding he does not like Obama because “he is a Muslim” — a thoroughly debunked myth.

by s. spencer scott

http://ny.metro.us/metro/local/article/Obama_slave_shirt_sparks_lawsuit_threat/13001.html

 

[Gigo]

What? ....................

 

[BP Biscuit Mane]

Obama ‘slave' shirt sparks lawsuit threat
Designer claims unhappy customer got assaulted, now wants to sue

Hey Monkey Supporter, who's the true son of a slave between you and Obama? Because the last time I checked (and its safe to claim), hardly anyone in Obama's immediate African family ever did leave Kenyan soil on board a slave ship bound for the Americas.

On the other hand (and funny enough), the same cannot be said about you (and rest of the Wadosi descendants of coolies you happen to support including of course "Monkey" Manji) since only about 2 or 3 generations ago, your very ancestors were brought by the British as indentured laborers aka slaves to work the fields in Tanzania and elsewhere in East Africa and beyond. That said, you might as well go ahead and tell us how all this utter nonsense really hangs together with the twin issues of Race & IQ that you always manage to sneak into every unrelated topic/thread ...

 

[The Truth]

Hey Monkey Supporter, who's the true son of a slave between you and Obama? Because the last time I checked (and its safe to claim), hardly anyone in Obama's immediate African family ever did leave Kenyan soil on board a slave ship bound for the Americas.

On the other hand (and funny enough), the same cannot be said about you (and rest of the Wadosi descendants of coolies you happen to support including of course "Monkey" Manji) since only about 2 or 3 generations ago, your very ancestors were brought by the British as indentured laborers aka slaves to work the fields in Tanzania and elsewhere in East Africa and beyond. That said, you might as well go ahead and tell us how all this utter nonsense really hangs together with the twin issues of Race & IQ that you always manage to sneak into every unrelated topic/thread ...

LOL...what's up with your comprehension skills? Did you not understand the story? Let me dumb it down for you. Here is a quote from the story I posted,

“For a lot of people, when they see Obama, they see a slave. People think America is not ready for a black president,” Braun told Metro from his five-year-old Orchard Street boutique.

As you can see, this Braun guy is calling Obama a slave because he is black not because any of Obama's immediate family members were slaves.

Also I hope you realize referring to me as monkey supporter you are not really calling me a monkey but rather whoever I am supposedly supporting.

 

[BP Biscuit Mane]

LOL...what's up with your comprehension skills? Did you not understand the story? Let me dumb it down for you. Here is a quote from the story I posted,

"For a lot of people, when they see Obama, they see a slave. People think America is not ready for a black president," Braun told Metro from his five-year-old Orchard Street boutique.

As you can see, this Braun guy is calling Obama a slave because he is black not because any of Obama's immediate family members were slaves.

Also I hope you realize referring to me as monkey supporter you are not really calling me a monkey but rather whoever I am supposedly supporting.

Thats what Obama would call "intellectual laziness". But at any rate you were at least smart enough to figure out that whatever it is that "a lot of people" might have against Obama, its all to be found inside the head of one bigoted "Mister Braun" (and his equally narrow minded ilk). Having said that, why don't you do Obama a favour and inform "Mister Braun" that Obama is not your average American Black descended from slaves but rather a son of a pure-blood (i.e., genetically 100%) African father and a pure-blood Caucasian mother?

On the other hand, I wouldn't care less if you happened to be a monkey or the Monkey you now admit to be in support of. What's more, its great to observe that you do not dispute the fact that by virtue of historical circumstances, most if not all Wadosi in Tanzania (indeed in the whole of East and southern Africa including neighboring Indian Ocean island states) happen to be descendants of Indian slaves, coolies and other low-lives imported through coercion by imperial British colonial government.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

My Gaydar (patent pending..) is ringing uncontrollably.....

 

[The Truth]

Thats what Obama would call "intellectual laziness". But at any rate you were at least smart enough to figure out that whatever it is that "a lot of people" might have against Obama, its all to be found inside the head of one bigoted "Mister Braun" (and his equally narrow minded ilk). Having said that, why don't you do Obama a favour and inform "Mister Braun" that Obama is not your average American Black descended from slaves but rather a son of a pure-blood (i.e., genetically 100%) African father and a pure-blood Caucasian mother?

What makes you think "Mr. Braun" needs to be informed about the origin of Obama? The article I posted already states why "Mr. Braun" calls Obama his slave. The reason is Obama is black and "Mr. Braun" does not like him (Obama). What kind of Black or Obama's ancestry is irrelevant to "Mr. Braun".

On the other hand, I wouldn't care less if you happened to be a monkey or the Monkey you now admit to be in support of.

So you are referring to Manji as a Monkey, fine. But let me ask you a question, if a Monkey (Manji) manages to outsmart, exploit and get rich off your back what does that make or say about you?

What's more, its great to observe that you do not dispute the fact that by virtue of historical circumstances, most if not all Wadosi in Tanzania (indeed in the whole of East and southern Africa including neighboring Indian Ocean island states) happen to be descendants of Indian slaves, coolies and other low-lives imported through coercion by imperial British colonial government.

Why do I care to dispute something that happened so long ago and has little to no effect on my life today? Perhaps you should be concerned about who is indentured slave today in East Africa. Here is a hint...it ain't the "Wadosi" and it ain't the "Wazungu"