US Election Coverage 2008

I've read quite a few stupid comments kuhusu Presidential election, lakini hii article takes the cake:

Here's a crazy idea that's being discussed by the rulers of the Persian Gulf city-state of Dubai: What if they were to invite Barack Obama and John McCain to come to the desert oasis for a presidential debate?

Yes, I know: This is America's presidential campaign, not a traveling roadshow to be shared with foreigners. And if the candidates can't even agree on a schedule of town meetings out in the American heartland, why should they travel to a sheikdom that's 7,000 miles from Washington -- and a short boat ride from Iran?

But the idea of a Dubai debate is appealing, not least because it would link the epochal 2008 campaign with a world that cares passionately about where America is heading. The United States is unpopular abroad these days in part because of a perception that we're arrogant -- that we don't care what the world thinks. An overseas debate would help change that perception.

And there's something compelling about taking the campaign to the region that will present the toughest challenges for the next president. Americans will be voting in November partly on how they think McCain or Obama will deal with the war in Iraq, the confrontation with Iran and the threat of terrorism. Why not debate these life-or-death issues in a place that is, almost literally, in the shadow of the war zone?

The idea for this debate emerged in conversations and e-mails over the past week with officials in Dubai. It appears to have the unofficial blessing of Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid, the emirate's ruler. Dubai's leaders "realize the importance of such an idea and are ready to receive the candidates and organize the event," one senior official told me.

The two campaigns are interested but also wary. "It is an intriguing idea," a top foreign policy adviser in the McCain campaign told me. But he said that given the other side's reluctance to take up McCain's challenge for debates in America, "I doubt the Obama campaign would be interested."

Obama's aides similarly are cautious. They note that the Democratic candidate will be traveling soon to Iraq and Afghanistan and that he'll be doing a lot of thinking about the Middle East. But they worry that a debate overseas might offend some American voters. "While these issues are exactly the sort that ought to be dealt with seriously and comprehensively in the course of this campaign, we think it preferable and most appropriate that they be discussed in front of an American audience," says Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

So the chances that a Dubai debate will actually happen are pretty slim, which is too bad. For it would be a good venue to engage the Middle East. As much as any place in the Arab world, Dubai is a symbol of modernization and change. It's a bit over the top, to be sure, with an artificial ski resort, man-made islands in the shape of a palm tree and rococo hotels with make-believe canals and Arab castles.

What's likable about Dubai is that, as a boomtown, it's a city that's "too busy to hate," as was said a generation ago of Atlanta. I wish that the United Arab Emirates, of which Dubai is a part, would send an ambassador to Israel. But the UAE has been a strong supporter of the peace process and a key Arab ally in fighting terrorism. The 2006 congressional attack on Dubai Ports World, and its bid to manage some American ports, was sheer poppycock.

Elections are always about change and renewal, but that's especially true this year. The success of a charismatic African American named Barack Hussein Obama has inspired young people around the world, just as it has young Americans. John McCain, the torture victim who demands that we stop torture, also wants to make a new start. The message of Campaign 2008 is that America is turning a page.

I hope that McCain and Obama will think seriously about these unofficial feelers from Dubai. The Middle East is a mess, sad to say, and dealing with the problems of that part of the world will be job one for the next president. We Americans like to talk about the miracle of our democracy, but putting that democratic process on the road would make it real for billions of people.

I especially like the idea of Iranians watching on satellite TV as Obama and McCain debate the future a few miles away across the Gulf. Now that would be good political theater.

The writer is co-host of PostGlobal, an online discussion of international issues. His e-mail address is davidignatius@washpost.com.
 
Ok, naona wana JF wenzangu wamebaki kutukanana tu humu ndani. Naomba niwarudishe kwenye mada yetu ya politics:
Babu Makopo kumbe anapenda kamali!! Asubiri November akisha-loose the elections atarudia tabia yake ya kucheza kamali:
 
Hivi huyu mama na madeni yake si alisema ana 18 million voters, kwa nini wasimchangie dola moja moja??????????????? Akawa thru in a minute...............
 
Nyie mnabaoa sasa haya ndio kuhusu Obama hivi hata yeye akiingia humu na kukuta wazee wazima mnatukanana kwenye thread yake atawaonaje?

Kueni
 
Jamani mpeni Nyani Ngabu Pole kwa kufiwa na Baba yake Mkubwa, Jesse Helms🙁!

 
Jamani mpeni Nyani Ngabu Pole kwa kufiwa na Baba yake Mkubwa, Jesse Helms🙁!


Asante Mchungaji....

Makonzevativu tumepoteza mpiganaji hodari wa values zetu. Hata hivyo, hamna neno kwani wakati wa uhai wake, Bwana Helms alijenga jeshi la kutosha ku-derail freight train ya maliberali.....kwa hiyo mapambano ndo bado yameanza.
 
Nyani Ngabu na Nyama Hatari,

Nafikiri inabidi mujionee aibu kwa hatua mliyofikia ya kuitana majina ya Ushoga na hata kutukanana.

Kama hamkubaliani hoja, jibuni hoja na si kuanza kutupiana matusi na kushushiana heshima. Tumianeni PM, mtukanane mpaka mvimbiwe lakini si kuharibu thread nzima kwa matusi.

Natumaini mtanisikiliza kiungwana na kuhamishia matusi yenu upenuni bila kutushirikisha wengine.

MODS,

Tafadhali ondoeni post zote zenye matusi katika hii thread.
 
Kweli kabisa mchungaji, unakuta tunaacha hata kuchangia katika thread maana imejaa matusi na malumbano.
 
Interesting when staff from current adminsistration jump on Obama bandwagon: is this tip of the iceberg? Maana kama kuna wengine wakiendelea hivi GOP is in trouble
 
Okay, I'm willing to take the fight outside and kick her butt....

Anzisha thread separate ya kujibizana naye alafu wenye hobby watafuatilia.


On another note: Poleni na msiba wa Jesse Helms! First Kristol now Helms, duh! wakati mgumu.
Babu Makopo bado uko naye? MI sijahama kambi niko bado na Obama
 
Anzisha thread separate ya kujibizana naye alafu wenye hobby watafuatilia.


On another note: Poleni na msiba wa Jesse Helms! First Kristol now Helms, duh! wakati mgumu.
Babu Makopo bado uko naye? MI sijahama kambi niko bado na Obama

I'm gonna ride with the Mac till the end....I don't jump ship in the middle of the voyage like some of Mama's supporters did during the primaries (John Lewis)....
 
Ijue timu ya Obama.


Barack Obama akiwa na watu muhimu wanaopika kampeni zake: watu wa Secret Service, staff wengine na bila kusahau BlackBerry yake.
 

..mods,

..i second this. matusi bado yanaendelea.
 
..mods,

..i second this. matusi bado yanaendelea.

Usiwe na wasiwasi....we are taking this out of JF....he is gonna come to Atlanta (sijui kivipi maana hata viza hana na hawezi kupata) and we'll take it from there.....
 
I'm gonna ride with the Mac till the end....I don't jump ship in the middle of the voyage like some of Mama's supporters did during the primaries (John Lewis)....

....uta ride na maloser mpaka kiama!
 
Haya tena Rev mzima anazungumzia kukata "nuts" za Jaluo!!....duuuhh!.....haya ndio matatizo ya WIVU
 
Kulikuwa na mvutano mkubwa sana wakati kampeni ya Obama walipokuwa wakijaribu kuutumia wimbo maarufu wa Stevie Wonder wa Signed,sealed delivered.

Wimbo ambao kimantiki ni sawa na kusema nina UHAKIKA WA KUSHINDA NA NIMESHASHINDA KWANI WANANCHI WANANITAKA NA MIMI NI WAO..Ni wimbo safi sana wenye kijembe cha kiana na chenye maudhi kwa wapinzani wake kwani kinaonyesha confidence ya hali ya juu at the same time kwa kuwachombeza wananchi kwani kwenye wimbo huo kuna sehemu ambayo Stevie wonder ana sema..."Here i am baby...Its signed sealed delivered...I am yours" Heeyy...Steve Wonder ambaye Obama anamfagilia kwasana ana ainisha.

Nitajaribu kuuposti wimbo huo hapa kwani uko you tube.

Hata hivyo maana halisi ya thread hii ni Kufuatilia ziara hii ya Obama iliyopewa jina la Global tour..Kwasasa yuko Afganistan ila kuna breaking news kuwa AL MALIKI WA IRAKI AMEKUBALIANA NA RATIBA YA OBAMA YA KU WITHDRAW. MAJESHI YA MAREKANI ILA AMESEMEMA HAWEZI KUWACHAGULIA WAMAREKANI RAIS WAO.

Hapo ndipo penyewe kabisa na ndugu zangu ripoti hii inasemekana itakuwa confirmed muda si mrefu na kama kweli mambo ndio hayo...Basi Obama akirudi hapa USA Mc Cain atakuwa ameloose kwa kiasi kikubwa provided hakuna gaffee.

Hivyo basi kwa mtizamo wangu..Ziara hii ya Obama ni muhimu sana.

Kwani nimegunduwa kuwa Clinton,Bush na Mc Cain hakuna tofauti yoyote ile na ndio maana licha ya kuwepo na utaratibu wa kubadilishana madaraka kati ya Democtracts na Republicans...Bado sera ziliendelea kuwa zile zile kwani sasa hata walishataka uwe ni kama uongozi wa kifalme kati ya Bushes na clintons.

Na mfano halisi uko kwenye ile thread yangu ya .."THE NEW SCRAMBLE FOR AND PERTITION FOR AFRICA"
 
Badala ya wimbo wa Steve Wounder mshauri atumie ule wa znz modern taarab wa msumari huo .......unawachoma potepote huko ndio kuna kijembe.....
 
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