Ni kweli waliouawa Mwanza walitoka Kibiti?

[Mzee Kijana]

Ww unahamu ya kuolewa bila shaka.. Jiangalie

Another instance of your stupidity and idiocy!!! Too childish and shameless!

 

[Walnut Creek]

ok boss then can u prove beyind reasonable doubt that those criminals who where gunned down in mwanza are connected to the extermist terrorists who are causing havoc in kibiti??? do you have enough proof or its just hearsay from so called POLICE INTELIGENCE???

Kama huamini ripoti zao basi nenda na evidence zako Wizara ya Mambo ya Ndani na pia unaweza hata kupitia kwenye media. Mbona wakina Zombe na Bageni waliumbuliwa, cha msingi uwe unasema ukweli.

 

[Nguto]

MUNGU NIPE HEKIMA NIONGEE KIDOGO KUHUSU WAUWAJI WA KIBITI.

Zipo taarifa kwamba kwamba wauwaji wa KIBITI wameuwawa Mwanza baada ya majibizano ya risasi na askari wetu.

Pia ziko taarifa kwamba akipatikana mtu mgeni kwenye eneo fulani kwa maana ya kwamba serikali ya eneo Hilo kutokumtambua basi atauwawa.

Kama taarifa hizi ndivyo zilivyo basi tunazo sababu za kujiuliza maswali mengi.

Kwamba, kama wauwaji wa KIBITI wameuwawa Mwanza kwenye majibizano ya risasi na askari, ni nani alitoa taarifa za uwepo wa watu hao Mwanza wakitokea KIBITI?

Je, aliyetoa taarifa ya watu hao kuwa wametoka KIBITI alizithibitihaje taarifa hizo na yuko wapi mpaka sasa?

Jeshi la Polisi linasema nini juu ya mtoa taarifa huyo ambaye kimsingi atalisaidia sana Jeshi letu la Polisi kufanya upelelezi?

Je, ni sahihi kwamba mtu yeyote mgeni kwenye eneo fulani anatakiwa kuuwawa? Na kama ndivyo mbona serikali yetu imekuwa na uoga wa kiwango hiki kwa wahalifu?

Je, hakuna namna nyingine ya kushughulika na wanaodaiwa kuwa ni wageni kwenye maeneo fulani zaidi ya kuwauwa?

Hii ni Tanzania ile ile tunayoisifia kwamba inaongozwa kwa misingi ya sheria?

KIBITI KIBITI KIBITI
MCHEZO WA SINEMA USIOTABIRIKA.
Haya ni mawazo tu lakini ya mjinga mmoja.

Kibiti imetuletea balaa!!!!!

 

[Ngalikihinja]

Sidhani Kama kuna agizo la kuua mgeni kwenye eneo Fulani huo ni upotoshaji na pili taifa lina intelijensia hivo kuwa trace Hao watu kuwa wametoka kibiti ni kazi ya intelijensia
Na ukiwa mgeni mahali sidhani Kama utapigwa risasi tu hapana utasimamishwa utahojiwa na kuulizwa vitambulisho Ndio utaratibu ila wewe ukisimamishwa ukaanza kukimbia na kurusha risasi lazima utauawa

Kwa hiyo ukikimbia NDO UNAKUWA UNATOKA KIBITI..?? Kwani wa kibiti hawana vitambulisho?

 

[ngola ya kola]

Kama ni kweli wametoka kibiti basis wana mtandao mkubwa sana! Silaha walizo tumia walifikazo vipi Mwanza toka kibiti au huko mwanza kuna hazina yao? Kama jibu no ndio hivi hawatakuwepo na sehemu nyingine

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[Titicomb]

Mkuu hizo taarifa za agizo la wageni wakionekana wauwawe umetoa wapi? Mbona mimi juzi nimepokea mgeni na nimekaa nae sehemu hadi saa 5 usiku kisha nikamwambie atangulie kulala kwangu mimi kaniacha sehemu na hajauwawa licha ya kutembea peke yake ugenini usiku mwingi? Usipotoshe mambo. Waachie wenye kujua/juwa kazi ya upelelezi wawatambue wahalifu.

 

[Ndalama]

kama majambazi waliouawa ni ndugu zako unakaribishwa katika postmortem halafu ukawazike kwa heshima.

Polisi ikishatangaza vita maana yake hakuna majadiliano ni action tu.

Hapa mtaani kwangu kuna wageni kibao sijaona wakiuawa na Polisi.

Wanaouawa ni Majambazi...na waendelee kuawa tu.

Kama wale (majambazi) wafanya biashara wa ulanga

 

[pilipili kichaa]

Tatizo inayoongea ni Divisheni four ya kumi na nane, watu wana silaha na risasi... wananchi wema wametoa taarifa zikafanyiwa kazi ila kwa kuwa habari hasi ni mlo wako wa lazima kila siku huwezi kuona mema.....when the room is full of light clown like you pull down the curtain.....shameless evilView attachment 538735

Mkuu hatukatai na wala hakuna anaepinga kuuawa kwa majambazi hata kdg. wanachosema watu humu ni ile connection ya kibiti na Mza haijakaa sawa.
Kuja na matokeo ya mtu eti alipata div.4 ni ujinga, umbea na inaonyesha kuwa hukuelimika kabisa! kupata div 1 or 2 sio kwamba wewe ktk kila kitu utakuwa juu. Mfano huenda wewe una div 1 lkn kuleta matokeo ya mtu huku kisa ametoa maoni tofauti na wewe ni kuonyesha hujaelimika hadi leo.

 

[ARIZ]

Yaani unapewa taarifa za mipango badala ya kuwakamata unashusha ambush na kuua wote?

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[Prince_Mashine]

Mkuu hatukatai na wala hakuna anaepinga kuuawa kwa majambazi hata kdg. wanachosema watu humu ni ile connection ya kibiti na Mza haijakaa sawa.
Kuja na matokeo ya mtu eti alipata div.4 ni ujinga, umbea na inaonyesha kuwa hukuelimika kabisa! kupata div 1 or 2 sio kwamba wewe ktk kila kitu utakuwa juu. Mfano huenda wewe una div 1 lkn kuleta matokeo ya mtu huku kisa ametoa maoni tofauti na wewe ni kuonyesha hujaelimika hadi leo.

Wewe pia nina mashaka na akili yako, chapisho lake kwa mtu yeyote mwenye akili lazima atalidharau


"Pia ziko taarifa kwamba akipatikana mtu mgeni kwenye eneo fulani kwa maana ya kwamba serikali ya eneo Hilo kutokumtambua basi atauwawa" this is bullshit, malicious, misinformation and disinformation of highest degree wageni wapo kila sehemu

Kama taarifa hizi ndivyo zilivyo basi tunazo sababu za kujiuliza maswali mengi.

Kwamba, kama wauwaji wa KIBITI wameuwawa Mwanza kwenye majibizano ya risasi na askari, ni nani alitoa taarifa za uwepo wa watu hao Mwanza wakitokea KIBITI? "Kwa hio she wants police to reveal who gave them the information,?this is ridiculous"

Je, aliyetoa taarifa ya watu hao kuwa wametoka KIBITI alizithibitihaje taarifa hizo na yuko wapi mpaka sasa? "real this is ridiculous even FBI are never questioned or obligated to reveal that......... ever heard of witness protection policy?

Jeshi la Polisi linasema nini juu ya mtoa taarifa huyo ambaye kimsingi atalisaidia sana Jeshi letu la Polisi kufanya upelelezi?
"bunch of crap really ulitaka waseme nini?"

Je, ni sahihi kwamba mtu yeyote mgeni kwenye eneo fulani anatakiwa kuuwawa? Na kama ndivyo mbona serikali yetu imekuwa na uoga wa kiwango hiki kwa wahalifu? "rubbish malicious, ill intent, fear monger, wageni wangapi wameuwawa? karibu na kwako wageni wangapi wameuwawa? hapa shida nimegundua si elimu tu bali ni ujinga wa hali ya juu na wewe ukiwemo"

Je, hakuna namna nyingine ya kushughulika na wanaodaiwa kuwa ni wageni kwenye maeneo fulani zaidi ya kuwauwa?
"Wangeshughulikaje na armed bandits waliokutwa na silaha na risasi? Wangekuwa wageni raia wema wangekutwa na silaha au wangetiliwa mashaka na kuripotiwa?"

Hii ni Tanzania ile ile tunayoisifia kwamba inaongozwa kwa misingi ya sheria? "stupid arguments and facts lead to stupid conclusion and questions"

KIBITI KIBITI KIBITI
MCHEZO WA SINEMA USIOTABIRIKA. "So when these bandits kill our fellow countrymen you have the audacity to call this cinema? wtf? when kids have been orphaned by these bandits , bread winners killed, you call this a movie? rightfully I am very correct to despise her and all her faculties, she is indeed a failure to the Nation, a waste, and division four of 18 points is a glimpse of her mighty stupidness"
Na wewe uliyenijibu pia coz mtu akisema ujinga wewe ukaona ni akili basi nawe ni mjinga

 

[The Invincible]

Nikikumbuka issue ya Zombe na wale 'majambazi' wa Ulanga, sina imani sana na maelezo ya Msangi. Uwezekano mkubwa ni kick tu hapo.

 

[Drifter]

Mleta mada weka mada yako vizuri. Usichanganye sana mambo. Ni wazi kuwa polisi hadi sasa hawajashawishi kwamba waliowauwa Mwanza ndio wale wauaji wa Kibiti. Tena wanatumia neno "majambazi" ilhali inajiri kuwa wa kibiti ni magaidi. Yaelekea hawana jeuri ya kudai kuwa wamewaua wauaji wa Kibiti. Watafute sifa ya kuua majambazi tu; nayo si kazi ndogo.

Lakini hoja kuwa wageni "wasiofahamika" wanauawa na polisi haina uthibitisho. Aidha, kwamba waliouawa ni watu wasio na hatia (innocent) kama wale wafanya biashara wa madini Ulanga nayo haina uthibitisho. Tuone kama ndugu zao marehemu watajitokeza kutoa madai kama wale wa Ulanga. Hii haina maana kuwa kuuliwa kwao ni sahihi lakini, hatuwezi kukimbilia kudai kuwa "wageni wasiofahamika" wanauawa. Si ajabu polisi wakawa wanawafahamu au hata "kujuana" vizuri sana na hao marehemu kuwa ni genge la wahalifu/majambazi. wametumia tu habari yao kupunguza moto wa Kibiti.

Kinachotatiza ni jinsi hao watu walivyosakwa na polisi na kisha "kumiminiwa risasi" katika mapambano ya "piga nikupige". Hapo kilichopo ni kauli ya polisi pekee ndiyo iliyopo. Na kwa sifa tata ya jeshi letu la polisi wasishangae kuona watu wakiweka alama ya kuuliza - na hata kuzusha mengi. Wakati mwingine imeshasikika polisi wanahakikisha "majambazi" wote wanauawa ili kuzima ushahidi wowote usiotakiwa katika dili/misheni zinaowahusu baadhi yao.

Kinachoweza kulalamikiwa ni huu mtindo maarufu wa "extrajudicial killing" ambao yaelekea ni polisi pekee ndio wenye kuwa na "ukweli" kwamba hakukuwa na namna nyingine. Na hawatakiwi kutoa ushahidi wowote. Hata jambazi anatakiwa kukamatwa au kudhibitiwa akiwa hai hasa kwa faida ya kupata taarifa za uhakika na kupewa hukumu stahiki mahakamani. Sasa katika "operesheni" za polisi wetu "majambazi" wote wanauawa pamoja na yule waliyemkamata akawaonyeshe "wenzie" na wanaobakia wanakimbia na kupotea kimoja - very suspicious!

 

[Retired]

mbona wale viongozi wanaouawa kibiti hamuwasemei huko UN, AU, na kwa waume zenu EU.

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Matusi nitakutukana maana sioni sababu ya kusema wanaume zenu. nitakutukana nifungiwe.

 

[Retired]

Hao askari polisi na raia wanaouawa huko kibiti mbona wapinzani hamuendi kuwasemea huko UN, Au na Eu? Sahivi majambazi yameuawa mnataka kwenda kulalamika nyinyi chadema mna matatizo,,

Mimi siyo CDM, ni mpenda amani, haki. Huwezi kwenda kijijini ukaua watu eti kwa vile wauaji wametokea humo.

 

[pilipili kichaa]

Wewe pia nina mashaka na akili yako, chapisho lake kwa mtu yeyote mwenye akili lazima atalidharau


"Pia ziko taarifa kwamba akipatikana mtu mgeni kwenye eneo fulani kwa maana ya kwamba serikali ya eneo Hilo kutokumtambua basi atauwawa" this is bullshit, malicious, misinformation and disinformation of highest degree wageni wapo kila sehemu

Kama taarifa hizi ndivyo zilivyo basi tunazo sababu za kujiuliza maswali mengi.

Kwamba, kama wauwaji wa KIBITI wameuwawa Mwanza kwenye majibizano ya risasi na askari, ni nani alitoa taarifa za uwepo wa watu hao Mwanza wakitokea KIBITI? "Kwa hio she wants police to reveal who gave them the information,?this is ridiculous"

Je, aliyetoa taarifa ya watu hao kuwa wametoka KIBITI alizithibitihaje taarifa hizo na yuko wapi mpaka sasa? "real this is ridiculous even FBI are never questioned or obligated to reveal that......... ever heard of witness protection policy?

Jeshi la Polisi linasema nini juu ya mtoa taarifa huyo ambaye kimsingi atalisaidia sana Jeshi letu la Polisi kufanya upelelezi?
"bunch of crap really ulitaka waseme nini?"

Je, ni sahihi kwamba mtu yeyote mgeni kwenye eneo fulani anatakiwa kuuwawa? Na kama ndivyo mbona serikali yetu imekuwa na uoga wa kiwango hiki kwa wahalifu? "rubbish malicious, ill intent, fear monger, wageni wangapi wameuwawa? karibu na kwako wageni wangapi wameuwawa? hapa shida nimegundua si elimu tu bali ni ujinga wa hali ya juu na wewe ukiwemo"

Je, hakuna namna nyingine ya kushughulika na wanaodaiwa kuwa ni wageni kwenye maeneo fulani zaidi ya kuwauwa?
"Wangeshughulikaje na armed bandits waliokutwa na silaha na risasi? Wangekuwa wageni raia wema wangekutwa na silaha au wangetiliwa mashaka na kuripotiwa?"

Hii ni Tanzania ile ile tunayoisifia kwamba inaongozwa kwa misingi ya sheria? "stupid arguments and facts lead to stupid conclusion and questions"

KIBITI KIBITI KIBITI
MCHEZO WA SINEMA USIOTABIRIKA. "So when these bandits kill our fellow countrymen you have the audacity to call this cinema? wtf? when kids have been orphaned by these bandits , bread winners killed, you call this a movie? rightfully I am very correct to despise her and all her faculties, she is indeed a failure to the Nation, a waste, and division four of 18 points is a glimpse of her mighty stupidness"
Na wewe uliyenijibu pia coz mtu akisema ujinga wewe ukaona ni akili basi nawe ni mjinga

Kweli mie ni 'mjinga' ila naona wewe ni 'mpumbavu'

 

[McNair]

Hii indiscriminate killings inahitaji international attention! Upinzani achana na kusemea ndani, paza sauti UN, AU, EU etc, vinginevyo tunakwisha.

Are you fully informed that these organs have only complimentary jurisdiction to the municipal legal systems?

Do u know the ingredients, both contextual and substantive ones, which constitute international crimes?

And are you fully informed of the crimes under international law which, due to their nature, may attract international intervention?

Are you fully informed, to the best of your knowledge, of when and what is the international legal machinery which, either pro motu(sua moto) or by another person (juristic or natural), can intervene into a municipal situation of a State?

Nimekuuliza haya yote kwa sababu kuna wanasiasa kama wewe huwa, ama kwa kujua au kwa kutojua, wanaongelea suala la Ku - refer maswala yahusuyo kama vile uchaguzi was kisiasa (rigged elections) to the ICC!

Hatari sana kwa watu mbumbumbu kama nyie?

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[Ralph Tyler]

Ee bwana kama una ugomvi na mtu wa hizo pande za polisi huko kaombe poh haraka! Kwani kuna ugumu gani kusema tu hiri rimetoroka Kibiti!

 

[Retired]

Are you fully informed that these organs have only complimentary jurisdiction to the municipal legal systems?

Do u know the ingredients, both contextual and substantive ones, which constitute international crimes?

And are you fully informed of the crimes under international law which, due to their nature, may attract international intervention?

Are you fully informed, to the best of your knowledge, of when and what is the international legal machinery which, either pro motu(sua moto) or by another person (juristic or natural), can intervene into a municipal situation of a State?

Nimekuuliza haya yote kwa sababu kuna wanasiasa kama wewe huwa, ama kwa kujua au kwa kutojua, wanaongelea suala la Ku - refer maswala yahusuyo kama vile uchaguzi was kisiasa (rigged elections) to the ICC!

Hatari sana kwa watu mbumbumbu kama nyie?

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Mbumbumbu ni wewe, nadhani nakuzidi in all aspects of law and the like. I am not a politician, but an academician, a scientist with minimal interest in politics, but I read a lot of political publication and law ( by the way I am a part time scholar of law and therefore conversant with the very basics of law)There is no where I HAVE MENTIONED ICC IN MY POST!

 

[Prince_Mashine]

Kweli mie ni 'mjinga' ila naona wewe ni 'mpumbavu'

you are pathetic fool.....your brain is an average of an amoeba and protozoa