XinKumi
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Atleast alibeba Uefa akacheza final ya uefa miaka miwili mbele,akabeba capital one,akacheza fainal ya FA kiujumla amevaa medali nyingi sana mpaka kustaafu..
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Atleast alibeba Uefa akacheza final ya uefa miaka miwili mbele,akabeba capital one,akacheza fainal ya FA kiujumla amevaa medali nyingi sana mpaka kustaafu..
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Ubumuntu
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Kweli...siwezi....nitamlinganisha na nani huyo mvuta fag!
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Wachana na hawa mashabiki vipepe aka Mburukenge nachikia wanachema watabeba EPL mwaka huu kutoka kwa kuwadi wao mkuu Fungie .... .... ... khe khe khe khe khe khe kheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee kawaletea Mo no cha cha wanagwaya.
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Khe khe khe khe kheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
''Manchester United manager David Moyes sees tenure marked by £220m being wiped off stock market valuation
Manchester United manager David Moyes' failure to chase down Premier League's top four has seen the club's worth tumble by £220m in a month ..... ...... ....... ........ ......''
Get me out of here mourns Mo No .... ....
Khe khe khe khe khe kheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
kny Mentor i n g I d i o t s ..... ...... ......
Medical staff wa Manure wanachema wanachema Judas Iskariot yuko fit kucheza Judas anachema yeye iko gonjwa ... ... .... ... patamu hapo ... .... ... .... ...... crisis ... ..... what crisis ... .... .... .... Watazoea tu khe khe khe khe kheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Goodluck to Mata. He could not stay at Chelsea to fight for his place, probably because he wants to play in the World Cup.
Pia kutokana na William ku-adapt quickly kulimfanya Mata ashuke kwenye picking order.
I don't think he will have a free ride at Old Trafford. He will have to fight for his place just like in other teams.
Hata kama ningekuwa mie, kati ya Hazard, Oscar, William na Mata, I would have have picked the first three.
I hope Mata's fans ambao wengi wao walikuwa Man Utd supporters, including Nzi, have got their man now and will not complain again.
Pia kutokana na William ku-adapt quickly kulimfanya Mata ashuke kwenye picking order.
I don't think he will have a free ride at Old Trafford. He will have to fight for his place just like in other teams.
Hata kama ningekuwa mie, kati ya Hazard, Oscar, William na Mata, I would have have picked the first three.
I hope Mata's fans ambao wengi wao walikuwa Man Utd supporters, including Nzi, have got their man now and will not complain again.
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#JuanUnitedMata kupewa jezi nambari 7? Tusubiri kesho....
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Ed Woodward, you are a genius!!
Perhaps the most intriguing part of the long, complex process that finally led to a helicopter carrying Juan Mata arriving at #ManUnited training ground on Saturday is that a £37.1m deal can be arranged without as much as a telephone call between the clubs. Several months of positioning, mutual suspicion and political bargaining, and everything was done without a single word being exchanged in person.
Chelsea certainly tried. On more than one occasion, a message reached Ed Woodward, United's chief executive, that the relevant people at Stamford Bridge were open to sitting at the other side of the negotiating table. Each time, he politely declined. Everybody in football knows Chelsea want to sign Wayne Rooney and Woodward reasoned that it would be virtually impossible to keep them sweet on Mata while also informing them they could forget about anything happening the other way.
Instead, the background to the Mata deal is a case study about how complicated and sensitive these big-money arrangements can be, and an insight into the high influence of agents in the modern business. Without them, both clubs recognise the chances of the deal going through were nonexistent. Seven different agents approached United since August to say they could make it happen. As it turned out, they used Mata's father, Juan senior, and Colin Pomford, a Madrid-based agent who specialises in Spanish business going back to Steve McManaman's time at Liverpool and, later, the Rafael Benítez era.
What has never come out before is that United first heard Mata was open to leaving Chelsea, and keen on moving to Manchester, late in the August transfer window, after he had picked up strong vibes from José Mourinho that he would be used only sparingly. Woodward never actively followed it up because of the Rooney situation. He did, however, establish that David Moyes liked the player. Their next information after the window closed was that Mata was so unhappy he had been to see the top people at Chelsea, among them Roman Abramovich, and been given a verbal agreement that if he carried on being left out of the team, and maintained his professionalism, he would be allowed to leave in January.
Chelsea would later harden that into a written agreement that included a 45m buyout and possibly still thinking about the Rooney issue one proviso: that the figure could not be activated by United. That could easily have been the end of the deal. Except Mata and his father went back to Stamford Bridge, once it became clear there was interest from Old Trafford, and asked for the condition to be removed. One of the people involved in the negotiations has told this newspaper that Mata and Abramovich are "almost like friends". Mata had kept to his side, bar one fit of pique after being substituted, and Abramovich respected that. Chelsea gave him a verbal promise, but nothing in writing, and then sent a message, via Pomford, that maybe it was time the two clubs met face to face. Woodward said no. He simply did not want to risk changing the temperature by getting involved in any talks about Rooney and, with nothing in writing, he was not willing to take any chances about the price suddenly going up.
A separate message came back to United that Chelsea would welcome an official bid on a specific day. Woodward declined again. Instead, his lawyers faxed through a "transfer agreement" informing Chelsea that United had met the buy-out clause and would pay the money, as stipulated, in three parts. But the game of cat and mouse continued. Chelsea indicated again they wanted to talk and would even let Mata travel to Manchester to take his medical. Except Woodward knew, again, that Rooney would crop up and potentially kibosh the whole deal. "He couldn't risk it," according to one source. So he sat tight, while Mata and the relevant agents went to work behind the scenes. Then Mourinho went public that Mata could leave and that was always going to speed up the process. Finally, the deal was closed on Saturday. For Woodward, it is the biggest coup of his time in charge at Old Trafford.
United have been accused of panic-buying and maybe, in light of the new detail, that is an unfair slant to put on it. The club had, however, advised journalists to "ignore" any speculation about Mata earlier in January, and sources say they still felt as recently as Tuesday that it was far more likely to happen, if at all, in the summer. If Mata still feels like a strange buy, it is largely because Moyes has insisted for several months that all he wants is a central midfielder and a left-back.
Questions about Mata were knocked back on the basis United already had Wayne Rooney and Shinji Kagawa for the No10 position, in line with the club's explanation for not challenging Arsenal for the signature of Mesut Özil. So why Mata and not Özil? Timing, basically. Özil was offered to United in the first week of the summer transfer window, but Moyes had barely seen Kagawa at that point and wanted to learn more about a player about whom Sir Alex Ferguson had left glowing reports. As it has turned out, Kagawa has been disappointing. United, however, would prefer to keep him for now, not least because Mata is ineligible in the Champions League.
Manchester United keep Chelsea at arm's length before Mata transfer | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian
Perhaps the most intriguing part of the long, complex process that finally led to a helicopter carrying Juan Mata arriving at #ManUnited training ground on Saturday is that a £37.1m deal can be arranged without as much as a telephone call between the clubs. Several months of positioning, mutual suspicion and political bargaining, and everything was done without a single word being exchanged in person.
Chelsea certainly tried. On more than one occasion, a message reached Ed Woodward, United's chief executive, that the relevant people at Stamford Bridge were open to sitting at the other side of the negotiating table. Each time, he politely declined. Everybody in football knows Chelsea want to sign Wayne Rooney and Woodward reasoned that it would be virtually impossible to keep them sweet on Mata while also informing them they could forget about anything happening the other way.
Instead, the background to the Mata deal is a case study about how complicated and sensitive these big-money arrangements can be, and an insight into the high influence of agents in the modern business. Without them, both clubs recognise the chances of the deal going through were nonexistent. Seven different agents approached United since August to say they could make it happen. As it turned out, they used Mata's father, Juan senior, and Colin Pomford, a Madrid-based agent who specialises in Spanish business going back to Steve McManaman's time at Liverpool and, later, the Rafael Benítez era.
What has never come out before is that United first heard Mata was open to leaving Chelsea, and keen on moving to Manchester, late in the August transfer window, after he had picked up strong vibes from José Mourinho that he would be used only sparingly. Woodward never actively followed it up because of the Rooney situation. He did, however, establish that David Moyes liked the player. Their next information after the window closed was that Mata was so unhappy he had been to see the top people at Chelsea, among them Roman Abramovich, and been given a verbal agreement that if he carried on being left out of the team, and maintained his professionalism, he would be allowed to leave in January.
Chelsea would later harden that into a written agreement that included a 45m buyout and possibly still thinking about the Rooney issue one proviso: that the figure could not be activated by United. That could easily have been the end of the deal. Except Mata and his father went back to Stamford Bridge, once it became clear there was interest from Old Trafford, and asked for the condition to be removed. One of the people involved in the negotiations has told this newspaper that Mata and Abramovich are "almost like friends". Mata had kept to his side, bar one fit of pique after being substituted, and Abramovich respected that. Chelsea gave him a verbal promise, but nothing in writing, and then sent a message, via Pomford, that maybe it was time the two clubs met face to face. Woodward said no. He simply did not want to risk changing the temperature by getting involved in any talks about Rooney and, with nothing in writing, he was not willing to take any chances about the price suddenly going up.
A separate message came back to United that Chelsea would welcome an official bid on a specific day. Woodward declined again. Instead, his lawyers faxed through a "transfer agreement" informing Chelsea that United had met the buy-out clause and would pay the money, as stipulated, in three parts. But the game of cat and mouse continued. Chelsea indicated again they wanted to talk and would even let Mata travel to Manchester to take his medical. Except Woodward knew, again, that Rooney would crop up and potentially kibosh the whole deal. "He couldn't risk it," according to one source. So he sat tight, while Mata and the relevant agents went to work behind the scenes. Then Mourinho went public that Mata could leave and that was always going to speed up the process. Finally, the deal was closed on Saturday. For Woodward, it is the biggest coup of his time in charge at Old Trafford.
United have been accused of panic-buying and maybe, in light of the new detail, that is an unfair slant to put on it. The club had, however, advised journalists to "ignore" any speculation about Mata earlier in January, and sources say they still felt as recently as Tuesday that it was far more likely to happen, if at all, in the summer. If Mata still feels like a strange buy, it is largely because Moyes has insisted for several months that all he wants is a central midfielder and a left-back.
Questions about Mata were knocked back on the basis United already had Wayne Rooney and Shinji Kagawa for the No10 position, in line with the club's explanation for not challenging Arsenal for the signature of Mesut Özil. So why Mata and not Özil? Timing, basically. Özil was offered to United in the first week of the summer transfer window, but Moyes had barely seen Kagawa at that point and wanted to learn more about a player about whom Sir Alex Ferguson had left glowing reports. As it has turned out, Kagawa has been disappointing. United, however, would prefer to keep him for now, not least because Mata is ineligible in the Champions League.
Manchester United keep Chelsea at arm's length before Mata transfer | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian
Belo
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I hope he will get chance at United,
Man United ni mbovu kwenye idara ya kiungo huwezi linganisha na Chelsea (Hazard,Willian,Schurle,Osca,Lamps,Ramirez) na (Giggs,Cleverley,Kagawa,Carick,Felaini)
Nampongeza Jose kwa kufanya one of the best deal sidhani kama Chelsea wamewahi kuuza mchezaji kwa zaidi ya £ 20m
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Personally, I was a bit shocked that Moyes paid that amount money.
It may turn out to be the best or worst buy for Man United.
I want him to play because he is a good player.
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Mata will wear the No. 8 shirt vacated by Anderson, who has joined Fiorentina on loan, and not, as some predicted, Uniteds famous No. 7 shirt -- previously worn by George Best, Bryan Robson, Eric Cantona, David Beckham and Cristiano Ronaldo.Mata said: I think No. 8 is a great number. I like the number. I know No. 7 is iconic but I was speaking with David about it and we decided No. 8 is a good number for me and hopefully it will bring me good luck.Mata declared that joining United is great and said the reception he has been afforded at Old Trafford has been unbelievable.
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Rooney? Chifu, mazungumzo yanaweza kuanza next week...kuna tetesi ya dili la paundi laki 3 kwa wiki....huku akipewa hadi insider information za mipango ya #ManUnited katika kujenga timu ya ushindani, kitu ambacho SAF alimwambia siyo kazi yake, kazi yake ni kucheza uwanjani tu, na siyo kufuatilia mipango ya usajili ya timu....hivyo Rooney atabaki tu OT...
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David Moyes will get it right at Manchester United - Kevin Kilbane Nice piece about the manager. Check it out at BBC Sport - David Moyes will get it right at Manchester United - Kevin Kilbane
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Nimesoma baadhi ya comments kwenye hiyo link, some are interesting.
Like Woordward becoming a "transfer genius" contrary to his performance during the summer.
The truth is that Mata was becoming a surplus at Chelsea.
Ever since Scholes retired, Man Utd has never been the same.
He was probably the most underrated player in the Premiership.
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[h=2]TEAM NEWS[/h]Manchester United manager David Moyes is expected to hand record signing Juan Mata his debut.
Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney trained on Monday and could make their return from injury, but skipper Nemanja Vidic is still suspended.
Cardiff boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is set to restore a host of players to his starting line-up after they began the FA Cup win at Bolton on the bench.
Striker Jo Inge Berget, who has signed from Molde, could be involved.
Victory would make Manchester United the first club to earn 1,000 points at home in the Premier League - they currently stand on 998.
Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney trained on Monday and could make their return from injury, but skipper Nemanja Vidic is still suspended.
Cardiff boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is set to restore a host of players to his starting line-up after they began the FA Cup win at Bolton on the bench.
Striker Jo Inge Berget, who has signed from Molde, could be involved.
Victory would make Manchester United the first club to earn 1,000 points at home in the Premier League - they currently stand on 998.
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