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Well analysed.....mimi nina swali moja tu. hawa wote ambao wanasajiliwa its a constent ya kocha au hawa mababu 'wanamsajilia' Van G? Tusije kuwa kama Chlesea, Abromo ndo anasajili mostly na kocha kazi yake kuwapanga. yaleyale ya simba na yanga......
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The Bilbao-born playmaker is a natural heir to Paul Scholes, blending defensive bite with craft and invention on the ball, and is the perfect midfielder for Louis van Gaal
COMMENT
By Ewan Roberts
Barely a fortnight after Chelsea tried to upstage the World Cup curtain-raiser by announcing the signing of Cesc Fabregas, title rivals Manchester United have now recruited their own talented, big-money, Spanish midfielder. There is far less fanfare accompanying Ander Herrera, though, and many are already wondering why United opted to sign the Athletic Bilbao man ahead of his more experienced counterpart.
The dethroned Premier League champions tried to tempt Fabregas to Old Trafford last summer - still with a title to defend back then - but the Catalan club were unwilling to allow the former Arsenal skipper to leave.
He paid back that show of faith only one player, Angel Di Maria, recorded more assists in Europes top five leagues last term than Fabregas though his more prominent role under beleaguered, and now axed, boss Gerardo Martino began to turn him into something of a pariah for the clubs jarring change in aesthetic and a rare trophyless campaign, since becoming the new regimes most prominent casualty.
Yet, rather than return for a player with a medal-laden career at the peak of his ability, United ignored Fabregas, though available, and spent £28 million on a player who has fewer career goals than his compatriot has managed in a single season and who has yet to make a senior appearance for Spain though that is no great slight given the plethora of talent at Vicente del Bosques fingertips.
There is a sense that United have passed on a leading man and signed the understudy instead, rejecting an established, world-class player in favour of one that exudes promise and potential rather than proven talent.
But, as unquestionably brilliant as Fabregas is, he is not the man United and, more specifically, Louis van Gaal crave. His time as a disciplined, central midfielder is a distant memory, having resided in an advanced role since Arsene Wenger positioned the Masia graduate behind a striker in his last years at Arsenal, where he scored 15 Premier League goals in 2009-10.
Fabregas has remained a much more forward-thinking player ever since, even leading the line as a false No.9 for both club, Barca, and country, and is likely to remain in the hole at Chelsea.
United, though, so well stocked in attacking positions already, hardly need a player of Fabregas ilk. What they require and have done ever since Paul Scholes hung up his boots is a deeper presence; an energetic link between the defence and the forward line, someone who is cultured on the ball and a grafter off it. A player to assist the assister, rather than another cook in already crowded kitchen. That player is Herrera.
The 24-year-old is a swirl of energy, harassing and harrying with an enthusiasm and determination that was cultivated during Marcelo Bielsas stint in charge at San Mames. The intensity, drive and work-rate of the Bilbao team that sent United crashing out of the Europa League two years ago is still embodied in Herrera.
Even after the Argentine coachs departure, his one-time protege retains much the same style, while further nuances have been added to his game under Ernesto Valverde.
Last season, Herrera averaged over twice as many tackles as Fabregas, attempted and completed more dribbles, drew more fouls and chipped in with five goals and as many assists. He is the quintessential all-rounder, a player capable of finally restoring the dynamism United have been starved of for far too long.
It is testament to how dangerous his sniping runs, quick feet and killer balls are that only four players were fouled more often in La Liga last season, and only 15 across Europes top five leagues. He is a player that other teams know they must stop, and by any means necessary.
[h=2]Player Ranking Athletic Club[/h]
[TH="class: position"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: name"]Player[/TH]
[TD="class: position"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name"]
Markel Susaeta[/TD]
[TD="class: pr_gamesplayed"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: top3stat pr_key_passes"]81[/TD]
[TD="class: position"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name"]
Ander[/TD]
[TD="class: pr_gamesplayed"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: top3stat pr_key_passes"]54[/TD]
[TD="class: position"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name"]
Aritz Aduriz[/TD]
[TD="class: pr_gamesplayed"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: top3stat pr_key_passes"]31[/TD]
MIDFIELD MAESTRO | Herrera played the third-most passes and created the second-most chances amongst the entire Athletic Bilbao squad last season
He also fits the mould of midfielder that Van Gaal reveres above all others. The veteran manager singled out Kevin Strootman as one of the Netherlands three most important players in the build-up to the World Cup, though Romas asking price and an ill-timed injury made a reunion at club level virtually impossible.
Hes the man with balance in midfield, professed Van Gaal. He adapts quickly to what is going on and allows us to play with one defensive midfielder as he can play box-to-box with tremendous legs and lungs.
The same is true of Herrera, who offers tenacity and protection ahead of the back-line, athleticism, aggression and purpose in the midfield, and invention in the final third. He is all things to all occasions.
But, Fabregas, playing in a side whose possession can border on the prosaic at times, would have been an ill fit for what Van Gaal is looking to build he was, after all, part of a Spain side on the receiving end of a 5-1 hammering against the Dutch in Salvador and is not the ground-devouring, hard-running, fast-acting player such a frenetic system cherishes.
Spain exited the World Cup with the second highest average possession (61.4 per cent), still attached to their tiki-taka approach, while Holland rumble on in Brazil despite boasting just a 39.5% share of the ball only Iran have recorded less possession. Van Gaals side have played in flurries, transitioning defence into attack at lightning-fast pace; a vortex of vivacity that suits, and requires, a player of mirrored vigour in Herrera.
Both Spaniards are exceptional but wildly different players, despite their surface similarities, and only one is what Manchester United truly require. Old Trafford has been deprived of a midfield pulse in recent seasons, but now, in Herrera, they finally have a decisive, athletic, creative heartbeat. If the man from Bilbao can hit the ground running, he could be the driving force of Van Gaals new era.
COMMENT
By Ewan Roberts
Barely a fortnight after Chelsea tried to upstage the World Cup curtain-raiser by announcing the signing of Cesc Fabregas, title rivals Manchester United have now recruited their own talented, big-money, Spanish midfielder. There is far less fanfare accompanying Ander Herrera, though, and many are already wondering why United opted to sign the Athletic Bilbao man ahead of his more experienced counterpart.
The dethroned Premier League champions tried to tempt Fabregas to Old Trafford last summer - still with a title to defend back then - but the Catalan club were unwilling to allow the former Arsenal skipper to leave.
He paid back that show of faith only one player, Angel Di Maria, recorded more assists in Europes top five leagues last term than Fabregas though his more prominent role under beleaguered, and now axed, boss Gerardo Martino began to turn him into something of a pariah for the clubs jarring change in aesthetic and a rare trophyless campaign, since becoming the new regimes most prominent casualty.
Yet, rather than return for a player with a medal-laden career at the peak of his ability, United ignored Fabregas, though available, and spent £28 million on a player who has fewer career goals than his compatriot has managed in a single season and who has yet to make a senior appearance for Spain though that is no great slight given the plethora of talent at Vicente del Bosques fingertips.
There is a sense that United have passed on a leading man and signed the understudy instead, rejecting an established, world-class player in favour of one that exudes promise and potential rather than proven talent.
But, as unquestionably brilliant as Fabregas is, he is not the man United and, more specifically, Louis van Gaal crave. His time as a disciplined, central midfielder is a distant memory, having resided in an advanced role since Arsene Wenger positioned the Masia graduate behind a striker in his last years at Arsenal, where he scored 15 Premier League goals in 2009-10.
Fabregas has remained a much more forward-thinking player ever since, even leading the line as a false No.9 for both club, Barca, and country, and is likely to remain in the hole at Chelsea.
United, though, so well stocked in attacking positions already, hardly need a player of Fabregas ilk. What they require and have done ever since Paul Scholes hung up his boots is a deeper presence; an energetic link between the defence and the forward line, someone who is cultured on the ball and a grafter off it. A player to assist the assister, rather than another cook in already crowded kitchen. That player is Herrera.
The 24-year-old is a swirl of energy, harassing and harrying with an enthusiasm and determination that was cultivated during Marcelo Bielsas stint in charge at San Mames. The intensity, drive and work-rate of the Bilbao team that sent United crashing out of the Europa League two years ago is still embodied in Herrera.
Even after the Argentine coachs departure, his one-time protege retains much the same style, while further nuances have been added to his game under Ernesto Valverde.
Last season, Herrera averaged over twice as many tackles as Fabregas, attempted and completed more dribbles, drew more fouls and chipped in with five goals and as many assists. He is the quintessential all-rounder, a player capable of finally restoring the dynamism United have been starved of for far too long.
It is testament to how dangerous his sniping runs, quick feet and killer balls are that only four players were fouled more often in La Liga last season, and only 15 across Europes top five leagues. He is a player that other teams know they must stop, and by any means necessary.
[h=2]Player Ranking Athletic Club[/h]
| GP | Key Passes |
|---|---|
[TH="class: position"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: name"]Player[/TH]
[TD="class: position"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name"]
[TD="class: pr_gamesplayed"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: top3stat pr_key_passes"]81[/TD]
[TD="class: position"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name"]
[TD="class: pr_gamesplayed"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: top3stat pr_key_passes"]54[/TD]
[TD="class: position"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name"]
[TD="class: pr_gamesplayed"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: top3stat pr_key_passes"]31[/TD]
MIDFIELD MAESTRO | Herrera played the third-most passes and created the second-most chances amongst the entire Athletic Bilbao squad last season
He also fits the mould of midfielder that Van Gaal reveres above all others. The veteran manager singled out Kevin Strootman as one of the Netherlands three most important players in the build-up to the World Cup, though Romas asking price and an ill-timed injury made a reunion at club level virtually impossible.
Hes the man with balance in midfield, professed Van Gaal. He adapts quickly to what is going on and allows us to play with one defensive midfielder as he can play box-to-box with tremendous legs and lungs.
The same is true of Herrera, who offers tenacity and protection ahead of the back-line, athleticism, aggression and purpose in the midfield, and invention in the final third. He is all things to all occasions.
But, Fabregas, playing in a side whose possession can border on the prosaic at times, would have been an ill fit for what Van Gaal is looking to build he was, after all, part of a Spain side on the receiving end of a 5-1 hammering against the Dutch in Salvador and is not the ground-devouring, hard-running, fast-acting player such a frenetic system cherishes.
Spain exited the World Cup with the second highest average possession (61.4 per cent), still attached to their tiki-taka approach, while Holland rumble on in Brazil despite boasting just a 39.5% share of the ball only Iran have recorded less possession. Van Gaals side have played in flurries, transitioning defence into attack at lightning-fast pace; a vortex of vivacity that suits, and requires, a player of mirrored vigour in Herrera.
Both Spaniards are exceptional but wildly different players, despite their surface similarities, and only one is what Manchester United truly require. Old Trafford has been deprived of a midfield pulse in recent seasons, but now, in Herrera, they finally have a decisive, athletic, creative heartbeat. If the man from Bilbao can hit the ground running, he could be the driving force of Van Gaals new era.
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The Southampton youngster is set to complete his transfer to the Old Trafford side, just a day after the club sealed the signing of Athletic Bilbao star Ander Herrera
By Paul Clennam
Luke Shaw has passed his medical ahead of completing a 37.5 million [£30m] move to Manchester United.
The Southampton defender arrived at United's Carrington training ground via a backroad around midday local time on Friday, having completed most of his assessments off-site on Thursday evening and Friday morning, to be met by club officials and given a tour of the facilities.
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The left-back has agreed terms on a deal worth 200,000 [£160,000]-a-week that will make him the highest-paid teenager in world football.
Shaw will become the second signing of new manager Louis van Gaal's reign, following the acquisition of Ander Herrera from Athletic Bilbao on Thursday.
United have long been admirers of the England international defender, and have had to fight off interest from both Chelsea and Manchester City to secure his signature.
The club had hoped to complete the transfer before the World Cup but were hindered by Southampton's own persuit of a new manager - a role finally filled by Ronald Koeman earlier this month, following Mauricio Pochettino's departure for Tottenham.
Shaw played for England at the Samba showpiece in the dead rubber against Costa Rica, and is expected to enjoy a more prominent role in the England team in coming years, with veteran Ashley Cole having retired.
In the Premier League, meanwhile, Shaw featured 35 times for an exciting Southampton team in 2013-14, contributing two assists.
By Paul Clennam
Luke Shaw has passed his medical ahead of completing a 37.5 million [£30m] move to Manchester United.
The Southampton defender arrived at United's Carrington training ground via a backroad around midday local time on Friday, having completed most of his assessments off-site on Thursday evening and Friday morning, to be met by club officials and given a tour of the facilities.
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The left-back has agreed terms on a deal worth 200,000 [£160,000]-a-week that will make him the highest-paid teenager in world football.
Shaw will become the second signing of new manager Louis van Gaal's reign, following the acquisition of Ander Herrera from Athletic Bilbao on Thursday.
United have long been admirers of the England international defender, and have had to fight off interest from both Chelsea and Manchester City to secure his signature.
The club had hoped to complete the transfer before the World Cup but were hindered by Southampton's own persuit of a new manager - a role finally filled by Ronald Koeman earlier this month, following Mauricio Pochettino's departure for Tottenham.
Shaw played for England at the Samba showpiece in the dead rubber against Costa Rica, and is expected to enjoy a more prominent role in the England team in coming years, with veteran Ashley Cole having retired.
In the Premier League, meanwhile, Shaw featured 35 times for an exciting Southampton team in 2013-14, contributing two assists.
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mwingine atua OLD TRAFFORD sijui nani next??
[h=1]Premier League: Manchester United buy Luke Shaw from Southampton for £30m[/h]
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Luke Shaw: Southampton left-back has been bought by Manchester United
Manchester United have signed Southampton left-back Luke Shaw for a fee in excess of £30million.
The 18-year-old has signed a five-year contract at Old Trafford having secured the move after returning from World Cup duty with England on Wednesday.
United had an initial bid of £27m for Shaw turned down at the end of last season but have now sealed the deal.
The teenager, who made a single appearance in the World Cup, joins Ander Herrera in moving to Manchester; the midfielder is moving on a four-year contract from Athletic Bilbao and for a fee of £28m.
Luke Shaw: Got limited game time at the World Cup
Veteran Patrice Evra signed a one-year contract extension in May but United had been keen to secure a long-term replacement for the Frenchman, especially after Alex Buttner agreed to join Dinamo Moscow earlier this week.
Shaw, who becomes the world's most expensive teenager as a result of the transfer, made his Southampton debut as a 16-year-old in January 2012.
He has played 60 Premier League games for Saints and earned his first England call-up for the friendly against Denmark in March.
Roy Hodgson selected Shaw ahead of Ashley Cole for England's World Cup squad, but he only made one appearance - in the final game against Costa Rica.
[h=1]Premier League: Manchester United buy Luke Shaw from Southampton for £30m[/h]
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Luke Shaw: Southampton left-back has been bought by Manchester United
Manchester United have signed Southampton left-back Luke Shaw for a fee in excess of £30million.
The 18-year-old has signed a five-year contract at Old Trafford having secured the move after returning from World Cup duty with England on Wednesday.
United had an initial bid of £27m for Shaw turned down at the end of last season but have now sealed the deal.
The teenager, who made a single appearance in the World Cup, joins Ander Herrera in moving to Manchester; the midfielder is moving on a four-year contract from Athletic Bilbao and for a fee of £28m.
Luke Shaw: Got limited game time at the World Cup
Veteran Patrice Evra signed a one-year contract extension in May but United had been keen to secure a long-term replacement for the Frenchman, especially after Alex Buttner agreed to join Dinamo Moscow earlier this week.
Shaw, who becomes the world's most expensive teenager as a result of the transfer, made his Southampton debut as a 16-year-old in January 2012.
He has played 60 Premier League games for Saints and earned his first England call-up for the friendly against Denmark in March.
Roy Hodgson selected Shaw ahead of Ashley Cole for England's World Cup squad, but he only made one appearance - in the final game against Costa Rica.
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Hii ni conset ya kocha 100% nina uhakika huo, hawa jamaa wanaangalia professionalism sana, ili ukiboronga huna wa kumkimbilia.
Abrahmovich hana tofauti ya simba na yanga, wote sawa tu
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Naona shughuli imeanza nafasi ya kwanza ni yetu timu nyingine zigombee nafasi ya pili,tatu na nne mtakoma mwaka huu.
Ngongo we have alot to share mkuu
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teh teh teh halafu kuna 'wataala wa soka wa jf' wanasema dogo ni wa kiwango cha chini......!
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Halafu kuna wachawi wanasema Shaw ni avarege player ha aha ha watajibeba mwaka huu.
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Umeadimika sana Manda usije kupotea kama Icadon
Van Gaal ni kocha ni kocha mkali sana waliofanya nae kazi wanalijua hilo sidhani kama anaweza kukubali kununuliwa wachezaji asiowataka.Moyes alishindwa kuhandle wachezaji wakubwa wengi walicheza chini ya kiwango,Van Gaal alishakutana na Giggs na Woodward nafikiri alishapendekeza wachezaji anaowataka.Cha msingi ni wachezaji chipukizi
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Kila mtu kocha siku hizi, sisi tunaangalia team player sio individual talents
hao man city wenye individual talents wanakaa wakija kwenye team player kama kina soton
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