Magufuli didn’t ban all forms of politics...

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

To me electoral politics is about positioning your self to get votes-even if you do it now with 2020 in mind. This is the staff that political parties are made of, the strategies employed may differ depending on whether it is the election season or not hence my reference to the mheshimiwa statement. He is already and indirectly canvassing for 2020. So I did not miss the point. You are right the police force should have nothing to do with what you have listed but their behavior tell a different story and they tend to target the opposition giving very flimsy reasons. Political meetings as you have said can take place at different levels and any party that is seriously wanting to win or hold office knows this. Remember CCM leaders used to label other parties as being SEASONAL now that they have upped their game the CCM leader want them to be seasonal. Ask your self how many public meetings have been held by the opposition since October 25, 2015? The actions of the police reflect the words of the president and this is not coincidental. Whenever he takes the podium and talks to the public he in most cases tells us about CCM and the other parties-to me this is party politics. So why should he have the monopoly of telling us what he thinks but not the other politicians.
You know there is a saying "Give a dog a bad name and then hang it"-You label them noise makers and then ban them from politicking.

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First, for the sake of linguistic prudence I retract my phrase "noise-makers" and subsitute "the significant other" for it.

Secondly, I want to call your attention to the chronological taxonomy of politics--first electoral politics, then budget politics, and finally legislative politics. The sequence is important and equally applies to the parliament and the Councils. In this I want you to get my conceptual image of what I call electoral politics.

Thirdly, if you agree, we should now argue the following point: budget politics and legislative politics can safely take place through representative democracy and not direct democracy. In my reasoning, this is where UKAWA messed up. They lacked a key political insight due to some strange reason. Accordingly, it appears to me that the Head of State was right to give them a shock therapy as he did. What do you think?

 

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

Hivi Tanzania kuna uhusiano gani kati ya siasa na njaa?

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A cause and effect relationship. Politicians make policies to help citizens avoid famine in the long run!

 

[Descartes]

Hivi Tanzania kuna uhusiano gani kati ya siasa na njaa?

Zipo sababu nyingi.

Ila moja ya hizo ni: rais peke yake anatengeneza zaidi ya ajira zaidi ya 350 kutokana na uwezo aliopewa wa kuteua na kutengua.

Anzia.maRC-26,maDC-135,maDED-135,maDAS-, wabunge 10 anaowateua,kwa kutaja chache kati ya nyingine nyingi.

Hapo sasa, wanasiasa njaa lazima wafukuzie fursa hizo. Rejea akina Makonda, Polepole,Mwampamba,na wengineo...

 

[Simplicity.]

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A cause and effect relationship. Politicians make policies to help citizens avoid famine in the long run!

1. Who is a policy maker?

2. Who is supposed to make policy?

3. Who makes policy in Tanzania?

4. What is policy?

5. Are you a politician?

 

[Simplicity.]

Zipo sababu nyingi.

Ila moja ya hizo ni: rais peke yake anatengeneza zaidi ya ajira zaidi ya 350 kutokana na uwezo aliopewa wa kuteua na kutengua.

Anzia.maRC-26,maDC-135,maDED-135,maDAS-, wabunge 10 anaowateua,kwa kutaja chache kati ya nyingine nyingi.

Hapo sasa, wanasiasa njaa lazima wafukuzie fursa hizo. Rejea akina Makonda, Polepole,Mwampamba,na wengineo...

Hivi nchi hii ya Tanzania lazima watu waishi kwa kujifanya wanasiasa?

 

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

1. Who is a policy maker? 2. Who is supposed to make policy? 3. Who makes policy in Tanzania? 4. What is policy? 5. Are you a politician?

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All questions have been answered via my original post.

 

[Simplicity.]

Mkuu karibu magambani jumatano ijayo,tuchape kazi.Maana naona baada ya kupokonywa ushindi 2010 na kunyimwa tiketi ya kugombea 2015 na ukaamua kuhamia TLP.Sasa umeamua uje kujiunga na sisi magamba huku inatakiwa ujitoe akili kwelikweli zaidi ya LIZABONI.

Na huo utalamu wako wa IT inakufaa uutumie kunufaisha chama nasivinginevyo.

Karibu mkuu karibu sana.

Mtaalamu wa IT? Sasa na yeye ni mbabaishaji mpaka Rais asimwone akachukue watu Rwanda?

 

[Simplicity.]

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All questions have been answered via my original post.

Kwa hiyo kwa jibu lako la uhusiano wa njaa na siasa za Tanzania, uelewa wako unakuambia kuwa mwanasiasa ndiyo anayetengeneza sera? Na mwananchi asiye fanya siasa kama zako hana nafasi hiyo?

 

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

Kilichoandikwa kirefu ila kama ni Cut and paste materials....unacho ongelea hakina maana ,mkuu wa mkoa wa Morogoro kasema hata mkutano wa ndan wa watu wa tatu hataki kuisikia

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You haven't known my mind yet. I never condone such a stance. And President Magufuli never gave such a directive. That is exclusively an RC's statement. It has to be analysed within context. It is beyond the powers of any RC to override legally recognized rights --all rights--without any valid justification. That is what I can say for now.

 

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

Kwa hiyo kwa jibu lako la uhusiano wa njaa na siasa za Tanzania, uelewa wako unakuambia kuwa mwanasiasa ndiyo anayetengeneza sera? Na mwananchi asiye fanya siasa kama zako hana nafasi hiyo?

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Educate yourself on the standard law making cycle. We don't have to rehearse it here.

 

[Simplicity.]

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Umepatia, definition hiyo ya "politics" nimeitengeneza kwa kutumia mawazo ya watu watatu:

-David Easton (1965) defines politics as the authoritative allocation of values for a society
- Hannah Arendt in his The Human Condition (1958) states that: “To be political, to be in polis meant that everything was decided through words and persuasion and not through force and violence.”
- Harold Lasswell seapks of pilitivs in terns of “Who Gets What, When and How” through his book “Politics: Who Gets What, When and How? published in 1958

Hebu tuambie unamaanisha nini unposema politics kwa mawazo na uelewa wako kwa muktadha wa maisha yako ya siasa uchwara, achana na ya watu.

 

[Simplicity.]

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Educate yourself on the standard law making cycle. We don't have to rehearse it here.

Stop being fucked up idiot, wewe umesema wanasiasa wanatengeneza sera, nimekuuliza wananchi wa kawaida hawana hiyo nafasi ya kutengeneza sera?

 

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

Stop being fucked up idiot, wewe umesema wanasiasa wanatengeneza sera, nimekuuliza wananchi wa kawaida hawana hiyo nafasi ya kutengeneza sera?

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Acha ku-panic. Unachoulizia nimekiandalia scheme of work, nimekiandalia lesson plan, nimekifundisha darasani. Rejea kitabu "Civic Education Manual for schools and colleges" by TIE. You are wasting my time.

 

[Deus J. Kahangwa]

Hebu tuambie unamaanisha nini unposema politics kwa mawazo na uelewa wako kwa muktadha wa maisha yako ya siasa uchwara, achana na ya watu.

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My thread is a synthesis of my own.
So the definition I gave clearly reflects my mind.

 

[Descartes]

Hivi nchi hii ya Tanzania lazima watu waishi kwa kujifanya wanasiasa?

Kwa sasa ajira inayolipa ni siasa.

Soma kadiri uwezavyo. Halafu hakikisha unajenga urafiki na wanasiasa ili siku wakiwa kwenye vyeo vya kisiasa

wakukumbuke kwenye ufalme wao wa kuteua watendaji pengine u-RC,DC.DED.DAS.Ubunge nk...

 

[Nguruvi3]

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NImefanya uchambuzi wangu kama raia mwenye uhuru wa kupokea, kuchakata, kutunza, na kusambaza mawazo na maoni chini ya ibara ya 18 ya Katiba. Wao siwezi kuwasemea.

Mkuu kwa bandiko hili nimekuwa na uhakika wewe ndiye mwandishi wa Makala hiyo.

Kwanza, kama unavyolaumu vyombo vya habari kwa 'misinformation', unatenda jambo hilo kwa JF

Kauli ya Rais haikuanza siku moja. Ni mfululizo wa kauli za viongozi wa awamu hii

Waziri Mkuu Majaliwa akiwa jimboni Ruangwa aliwataka Polisi wazuie mikutano kwa 'walioshindwa' ila walioshinda kama yeye wanaweza.

Hapa alilenga 'kiongozi' wa upinzani aliyekuwa anapita kuwashukuru wapi kura wake

Jeshi la Polisi liliuzia mkusanyiko wa mazishi kule Mwanza kwasababu ya Kipindu Pindu.
Ndivyo ilivyotokea kwa Dodoma kwa ugonjwa uisojulikana.

Utakubaliana nami, si kazi ya jeshi la Polisi kufuatilia shughuli za wizara ya afya.

Hakuna agizo la wataalam wa afya, jeshi linachukuaje dhamana isiyo yake?

Rais alisema mikutano hakuna hadi mwaka 2010. Ukimsikiliza sehemu nyingi amesisitiza sana kuhusu jambo hilo na kuliomba jeshi lisaidie(rejea mikutano yake).

Kama wewe una haki ya kutoa maoni, haki hiyo anayo mtu mwingine.

Hakuna sharia za nchi zinazosema shughuli za kisiasa zifanywe wapi na wakati gani.

Katiba imetoa haki na kuhakikisha kila upande unalindwa kwa masilahi ya Taifa

Nawe umepotosha umma uliposhindwa kueleza, jeshi la Polisi lilizuia mikutano ya ndani.

Zitto na CT pale Millenimu hata katika ofisi zao.
Jeshi limezuia hata mahafali tu ambazo ni sawa na mikusanyiko ya harusi.

Kinachosumbua serikali , jeshi na wewe ni ukweli kuwa wakati serikali na jeshi la Polisi wakipiga marufuku mikutano ya kisiasa , walisahau eneo moja, kwamba CCM ni sehemu ya siasa.

CCM wanataka kufanya mkutano wao, mantiki zote za mtu anayetumia akili zake vema zinalazimisha mkutano huo upigwe marufuku kama ile ya wapinzani ya ndani na nje.

Hakuna mahali waziri mkuu au Rais alianisha aina ya mikutano ya ndani au nje.

Hizi ni hoja za kupandikiza za jeshi la Polisi ambalo kila siku limekuja na sababu na kujitia aibu kama ilivyoandikwa na gazeti mwananchi

Kinachofanyika ni kutafuta majibu ya kulazimisha ili kulisafisha jeshi na kutoa nafasi ya kuwakamata watu ilimradi tu wana uwezo huo.

Kinachofanyika ni kutaka kusafisha makosa yaliyofanywa yanayotia aibu, kusema jambo leo na kusema tofauti kesho, ni kushusha heshima sana

Makala yako imelenga spinning, ukificha ikweli uliotangulia na kuchagua kauli za kujengea hoja.

Kitendo cha serikali kupiga marufuku mikutano, kinakiuka katiba. Kubwa Zaidi kinaonyesha yapo mambo serikali inayotaka yasisemwe . Mambo gani hayo?
Kwanini wanaogopa kuzungumza? Kuna nini wasichotaka umma uelewe?

Ninaheshimu sana mawazo yako kama ni huru, kama ni ya kikazi kwakweli jitathmini kama ipo heshima iliyobaki usoni.

 

[Simplicity.]

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My thread is a synthesis of my own.
So the definition I gave clearly reflects my mind.

Ni vizuri kukiri kwamba ulichoandika kinaonyesha jinsi akili yako ilivyo.

 

[mangatara]

Kama kumbukumbu zangu zipo sawa... CHASO Dar es salaam walifanya mahafali na mgeni rasmi alikuwa Mh.Lowasa na Meya wa Dar es salaam.!! sikumbuki kama ule mkutano ulizuiliwa...

mimi naamini kama taratibu zitafuatwa vizuri hii mikutano ya kisiasa inaruhusiwa kufanyika!! ila ninachokiona apa kuna matumizi mabaya ya huu uhuru wa kufanaya mikutano ya siasa na kama hakutakuwa na utaratibu wa kuratibu hii mikutano kuna madhara yanaweza kutokea...

sio kila mda ni kufanya mikutano tu... na kama inatakiwa kufanyika basi ifuate sheria!!

Amanito;
Kuna mambo naona wengi wanajiingiza ili kujipatia ujiko. Wewe nawe ni mmoja wa hao wanaojitafutia ujiko. Unatoa mfano mmoja tu wa Chaso Darisalama kupata nafasi ya kufanya mahafali yao. Mbona unasahau kuwa Dodoma walinyimwa? Mbona hukumbuki Mbeya?
Najiuliza, Hakuna msemaji wa rais au ni magazeti? Mnamsifu huyu mwandishi kumbe anajitafutia ujiko tu hapa. Yeye tangu lini akawa msemaji wa rais? Kama ni watu ambao hawakumwelewa rais, nadhani ni jeshi letu la Polisi, haswa wale makada nguli wa chama waliopewa ukuu huko. Hawasikii la muidhini wala adhana.
Wao huona kutokuwepo usalama tu kwenye mikutano ya hadhara ya UKAWA & Co. Why this?? Siungi mkono BAVICHA kwenda kuzuia ccm kufanya mkutano wao Dodoma ila nawaambia CCM. hizi double standards mlizowaamuru Polisi, mnawafanya wachukiwe na raia.
Msidhani kuwa upinzani ni ugaidi. Gaidi hana chama. Jambazi hana chama. Hata UKAWA aweza kuliokoa taifa kwa kutoa taarifa mapema. Ila, kwa mtindo huu wa visa na visasi sidhan ka ndo umoja wa kitaifa.
Ningelitamani, rais angelichukua muda wake kwa sababu ya mapenzi yake kwa taifa hili, achukue nafasi nyingine aeleze yeye maana ya maneno yake wala sio waandishi uchwara wenye njaa zao kutueleza. Rais wetu hayupo safarini, avumilie tu, aseme neno moja kuokoa hii sintofahamu.

 

[Olecranon]

Magufuli didn’t ban all forms of politics ​

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On 23 June 2016, President Magufuli of Tanzania discouraged direct political discourses which prevailed during the general elections as political contestants from various political parties were competing for key offices.

In the alternative, he encouraged indirect political discourses through the parliament, district councils and ward development councils, where the elected politicians can compete through formal arguments, both written and oral. He said nothing about direct democracy at the Local Government Authority level. (Check the video: Video)

The next morning, it was too obvious that the most active segment of the civil society--the media-- either misunderstood the logic of the President’s statement or deliberately engaged in self-misdirection for ulterior motives.

For example, Mtanzania daily newspaper reported, “Mafufuli: Hakuna siasa mpaka 2020,” literally meaning, “Magufuli says no politics until 2020.” All other media houses fell into the same unethical trap of public disinformation through the fallacy of equivocation.

In the same spirit of equivocative communication, Zitto Katwe, the ACT-Wazalendo Supreme leader slammed the President for declaring a war on multiparty democracy by allegedly banning all forms of political discourse. Professor Kitila Mkumbo too, through his recent article in Raia Mwema newspaper, has accused the President of virtually banning all forms of political discourse until 2020.

As a result of this widespread misrepresentation of the Presidents statements, the general public has ultimately been made to believe the same—that, the President has banned all forms of political discourse until 2020.

Due to this disinformation through the Tanzania’s media, Chadema’s youth wing (BAVICHA) and CCM’s youth wings (UVCCM) are now in a fierce linguistic war as to whether the forthcoming CCM’s national convention is violative of the president’s directive or not. BAVICHA believes holding the convention will violate the president’s directive, while UVCCM thinks not. I think UVCCM is right and BAVICHA is wrong. Let me explain.

When the president said that “electoral politics are over” he rightly banned direct political discourses at a national level. He did not ban indirect political discourses both at a national and sub-national levels. National conventions and other indoor meetings in accordance with the constitutions of political parties are not direct political discourses. Thus they were not banned by the president.

It is my hope that, this line of reasoning will most probably stand out clearly if we look at the definition of the word “politics.”

MY DEFINITION OF POLITICS

According to the Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-tung, “Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed.” And according to the Prussian General Karl von Clausewitz, “War is nothing but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means.”

While the relationship between war and politics is often quite close, there is a world of difference between political and violent means to achieve one’s objectives. But recognizing how close these two essential human dynamics are to each other should elevate our appreciation for the importance of a healthy and robust politics in our societies and lives.

For this reason, I will take the word “politics” to refer to any process whereby two or more persons decide, through persuasion and without resorting to physical violence, who gets what value, when, where, how, and why.

In this definition, the keyword "value" means any sought-after value in life. It refers to any object, activity, idea, principle, goal, or other phenomenon upon which large numbers of people place appreciable value, something which is considered by many individuals and groups within the political community to be good, desirable, attractive, useful, rewarding, beneficial, or advantageous.

One set of values may be tangible, or material, in form, that is, in the form of money, property, or other economic goods, services, and conditions. Another set of values may be intangible; that is, the values may be symbolic, ideological, cultural, ethical, moral, or religious in character.

Examples of intangible values in politics include the expressed goals of political activists who assert that they are concerned primarily with "social" or "family" issues, that they seek mainly to promote and defend "social" or "family" values.

The keyword “WHO” refers to the winner-loser-contestant in a political conflict, for example, Magufuli versus Lowasa in an electoral contest, MP’s versus MP’s in a medicare budget fight, two or more aspiring managers in a match of office politics, or a neighborhood civic group versus a real estate developer in a community zoning dispute.

The keyword “WHAT” relates to the stakes in the battle, for example, preservation of an endangered species in an environmental politics fight, creation of a voting district designed to empower a particular group in a redistricting process, or custody of the family dog in the personal politics surrounding a contested divorce.

The keyword “WHEN” suggests that timing often can be a critical element in determining the achievement of a political goal. For example, maneuvering one’s boss for a pay raise will be a lot more difficult after an unfavorable earnings report; promoting passage of a death penalty statute may be substantially more successful after a grisly and callous murder.

The keyword “WHERE” indicates that political possibilities may differ from one terrain to the next. For example, passing gay rights legislation in America will be easier than in conservative Tanzania; locating a halfway house for substance abusers in a highly organized and affluent suburb can be much more difficult than in a poorly organized and disadvantaged neighborhood; paying hospitals for providing the same service will result in different levels of payment for urban teaching versus rural community institutions; getting one’s spouse to spend time with the in-laws may be easier if those relatives live in the same geographic area as opposed to an island in the Caribbean.

The keyword “WHY” synthesizes all of the above to explain why some person, group, or other entity (1) got what they wanted, (2) did not get what they wanted, (3) got what they did not want, or (4) did not get what they did not want.

And the key phrase “THROUGH PERSUASION AND WITHOUT RESORTING TO PHYSICAL VIOLENCE” places politics on a continuum of methods by which rights and resources within a society are distributed.

At one end of the continuum is democratic political action in a civil society; at the other end are violence, dictatorship, and war where normal civic functions have been eliminated or have lost their capacity to work. In other words, political action is the principal alternative to violence in figuring out how to deal with the disparate needs, desires, and values in society.

This concludes the bigger part of my expository analysis of the word “politics.” But it is not all. One helpful way to test the usefulness of a definition is to try it out with familiar categories. Following are some recognizable categories of politics presented here to test the definition of politics as the way people decide who gets what, when, where, how and why, but without resorting to violence.

DEMOCRATIC ELECTORAL POLITICS

Who gets the office—public or private—after being chosen by vote? This could be the Tanzania’s president, MP, councilor, school committee member, ward committee chairman, student council president, labor union secretary treasurer, condominium association president, chair of a local gay rights organization, minister, or thousands and thousands of other positions.

DEMOCRATIC BUDGET POLITICS

Who gets what levels of resources from federal, state, county, municipal, or private budgets, for what purposes, and from whom? Governments obtain their revenues from a variety of sources and then pursue a political process to determine how those funds will be allocated. In government, for example, choices are made among uses such as education, municipal aid, prisons, health needs, environmental programs, transportation and public works, tax cuts, public assistance, courts, and much more. Each one of these uses has a host of interest groups, lobbyists, and activists determined to get the largest possible share of the pie.

HEALTH CARE POLITICS

How much money is allocated for health purposes, and how are those funds distributed to, for example, hospitals, physicians, health plans, home health programs, public health initiatives, and community health centers? Within each of these categories, controversies also emerge concerning who gets what: teaching versus community versus rural versus public hospitals; primary-care physicians versus specialists; inpatient versus outpatient services; home and community versus institutional services. Who gets what rights when they belong to a managed-care organization? Who gets the right to have physician-assisted suicide?

REDISTRICTING POLITICS

Who gets what populations and borders when the time comes to redraw political district boundaries? Officeholders will seek to get and hold onto as many like-minded voters as possible and to minimize concentrations of voters who may not be as supportive. A familiar subtheme of this topic in America involves racial and ethnic issues, namely, who gets how many African Americans and/or Hispanics drawn into their districts?

CIVIL RIGHTS POLITICS

Who gets what protections written into law to guard against discriminatory treatment? Who gets special consideration to mitigate the effects of past discrimination? Who, if anyone, gets preferential treatment for jobs and educational admissions? In this political arena, as in many others, we can observe both internal politics—among and within various organizations for dominance and influence—and external politics involving these groups and non–civil rights groups opposed to or supportive of their goals and activities.

EDUCATIONAL POLITICS

Who gets to teach evolution versus creationism? Who gets a new school building in their community, and who pays for it? Who gets tenure, and who does not? Who gets public education resources: the traditional public school system or quasi-public charter schools? Who gets public dollars to promote higher education: the state university system or scholarship programs to help students attend private universities?

OFFICE POLITICS

Who gets the best office, the one with the corner window? Who gets the job title, the promotion, the raise? Who gets the burden of having to sit next to the copier machine? Who gets access to other employees’ E-mail folders?

NEIGHBORHOOD POLITICS

Who gets public permission via zoning approval to build an extension onto his or her house? Whose neighborhood gets the new subsidized housing for mentally ill individuals? How late will the corner tavern be permitted to stay open? Who gets to be (or gets stuck as) the leader of the local block association?

FAMILY POLITICS

Who takes care of the kids on the weekend? Who gets what household chores? Who gets to watch their favorite television program when there’s a conflict in scheduling? Who gets the kids or the house or the car in a marital separation? Who gets to have Thanksgiving dinner at their house?

CONCLUSION

In light of the above analysis, it does not appear to me that President Magufuli banned all political discourses in this nation. I think not. Thus, there is a need for our civil society, and our media houses in particular, to upgrade their "information analysis and evaluation" skills when it comes to reporting political matters.

English is not your language why break it? Ungetumia Kiswahili ingekuwa na impact zaidi. Mimi jibu langu ninalileta Kama swali lililojikita kwenye title yako. Hayo mengine uliyoandika hayaeleweki kwa sababu umebomoa lugha ya watu. Nirudi kwenye swali-je, rais Ana mamlaka ya kikatiba ya kuzuia any form of politics in Tanzania? Kama anayo naomba utuelimishe.

 

[CHUAKACHARA]

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You haven't known my mind yet. I never condone such a stance. And President Magufuli never gave such a directive. That is exclusively an RC's statement. It has to be analysed within context. It is beyond the powers of any RC to override legally recognized rights --all rights--without any valid justification. That is what I can say for now.

You seem to be very argumentative,

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You haven't known my mind yet. I never condone such a stance. And President Magufuli never gave such a directive. That is exclusively an RC's statement. It has to be analysed within context. It is beyond the powers of any RC to override legally recognized rights --all rights--without any valid justification. That is what I can say for now.

Kahangwa you are very argumentative! I advise you to readily concede the obvious instead of putting up uncalled stiff arguments. By that you will be respected by fellow learned brothers in politics.