Lissu awajibu wanaopinga TLS kumshitaki Makonda

[baz kaiza]

Ha ha ha haaaa

Yale yale kama anajiamini angesubiri huko anapotaka kwenda kufungua kesi, hamna kitu kipya hapo zaidi ya kuisoma namba.

Yaani ni kama hatuna Raisi, imefika muda hili jambo litanyoosha hawa viongozi wanaoshika vyeo na kutaka kutanua kwa kula pesa za wananchi ovyo na kuvunja sheria.

Kideo cha jana kasema mwenyewe kuwa awaku hii ni moto moto kwao.

Angelaa kimya tu, kuliko kuandika ambacho hata akijaleta jipya. Hapa aiseeeeeee inasikitisha

Kweli Magufuli ni Kiongozi aliyeletwa na Mungu.

Lori hiloooooo linapita kwa kasi

Hapa kazi tu

Makonda oyeeeee

Umeelewa lakini kilichoandikwa?

 

[chipolopolo 2]

Umeelewa lakini au ndo ushabiki tu

Kingereza kigumu mkuu yaelekea hajaelewa

 

[Waterloo]

- Sasa kama ameshwahukumu anaenda mahakamani kufanya nini? hahahahahhahaha

le Mutuz

Umeelewa alichoandika brother?

 

[Nilufer]

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

I real respected the status of TLS as a legal and allowable autonomy but it is tremendously showing political affiliation soon as tundu lisu came into power as unethical president.
Everything he does is inclined with politics ad of course the illegal and unfair politics sowing the so called zero sum game.

Lisu is loosing his credibility as time goes just because of subdueing to his political party or rather making his mbowe hapy at any cost.

Let's be careful of these rubbish politics orelse we gonna be loughed by by every whomever surrounds this planet

 

[ChiefmTz]

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

Bado anajichanganya na hawezi kukwepa ukweli kuwa anajichanganya.

Hivi itakuwaje endapo TLS ikiprosecute case ambayo mwanachama wake anakuwa Defense Counsel wa kumtetea Makonda kitu ambacho ni likely kutokea?

 

[Waterloo]

If it is going to be proven as learned brother you need to wait till that day of proof to call somebody a Thug.

We can't wait.he was already misused the public office.Thugs

 

[Erythrocyte]

Kafanya nini katika historia ya taifa hili? Mke wa Slaa ni shujaa zaidi ya Tundu lissu, alipigania upinzani wa kweli tena ktk field sio uvunguni ufipa.

Sikujua kama we jamaa ni mweupe kichwani namna hii kushinda hata karatasi ya mgololo !

 

[whizkid]

It appears, logically so, that the PCM/DAB situation needs more urgent legal attention than any other threat to our Republic.

 

[Waterloo]

Bado anajichanganya na hawezi kukwepa ukweli kuwa anajichanganya.

Hivi itakuwaje endapo TLS ikiprosecute case ambayo mwanachama wake anakuwa Defense Counsel wa kumtetea Makonda kitu ambacho ni likely kutokea?

Kumtetea muhalifu ndio kazi ya wakili. Haina tatizo lolote kisheria bashite ana haki kutetewa mahakamani.

 

[alberaps]

The language used here is not of the learned brother. Nobody can be judged as a thug until proven by the Court of Law. TLS you dont have a learned brother as a your president.Shame on you

Nikuulize Ki leiman kabisa. Ni mahakama gani ilimuhukumu Lowasa hadi kila siku mnamuita fisadi. ?

 

[MENGELENI KWETU]

Umeelewa lakini au ndo ushabiki tu

Mkuu kama unakumbuka zile hesabu za set..
Huyu ni SET TUPU.. cocochanel.
Kichwani Empty.

 

[yomboo]

The language used here is not of the learned brother. Nobody can be judged as a thug until proven by the Court of Law. TLS you dont have a learned brother as a your president.Shame on you

The same applies to your good for nothing leaders

As you don't have learned Dr , shame on thee

 

[MENGELENI KWETU]

Tumsamehe tu cocochanel maana inaonekana hajaelewa chochote hata alichoandika hakielewi pia

Msamehe Mkuu
Huyu ni sawa na zile hesabu za Set Mkuu..
Ni SET TUPU.. Kichwani Empty cocochanel

 

[Bila bila]

Ha ha ha haaaa

Yale yale kama anajiamini angesubiri huko anapotaka kwenda kufungua kesi, hamna kitu kipya hapo zaidi ya kuisoma namba.

Yaani ni kama hatuna Raisi, imefika muda hili jambo litanyoosha hawa viongozi wanaoshika vyeo na kutaka kutanua kwa kula pesa za wananchi ovyo na kuvunja sheria.

Kideo cha jana kasema mwenyewe kuwa awaku hii ni moto moto kwao.

Angelaa kimya tu, kuliko kuandika ambacho hata akijaleta jipya. Hapa aiseeeeeee inasikitisha

Kweli Magufuli ni Kiongozi aliyeletwa na Mungu.

Lori hiloooooo linapita kwa kasi

Hapa kazi tu

Makonda oyeeeee

Ulichoandika kimeleta jipya gani?

 

[AKILI TATU]

Lissu Tafsiri Hiyo Barua yako ili watanzania tuielewe

 

[alberaps]

Kama una Ushahidi nenda wewe

 

[ILAN RAMON]

Bashite mpaka akome

 

[nchi ya viwanda]

Jamani HIV huyu lisu anataka kufungwa kwa uongo? Mfano jamaa akasema hana hicho cheti cha Form four na ana cha LA saba? Itakuwa je

 

[Waterloo]

I real respected the status of TLS as a legal and allowable autonomy but it is tremendously showing political affiliation soon as tundu lisu came into power as unethical president.
Everything he does is inclined with politics ad of course the illegal and unfair politics sowing the so called zero sum game.

Lisu is loosing his credibility as time goes just because of subdueing to his political party or rather making his mbowe hapy at any cost.

Let's be careful of these rubbish politics orelse we gonna be loughed by by every whomever surrounds this planet

You'll be logical clearly to your point if at least you understand the roles of TLS. It doesn't make sense by saying politics interferes while the motion is total different from politics. This is legal battle my brother.

 

[alberaps]

Ni Upi msimamo wa TLS kuhusu majaji wa sakata la madawa ya kulevya?

Nenda mahakamani ukashtaki. Ni haki yako kama ilivyo haki ya TLS kwenda kushtaki hili Jambazi