Lissu awajibu wanaopinga TLS kumshitaki Makonda

[manning]

Ha ha ha haaaa

Yale yale kama anajiamini angesubiri huko anapotaka kwenda kufungua kesi, hamna kitu kipya hapo zaidi ya kuisoma namba.

Yaani ni kama hatuna Raisi, imefika muda hili jambo litanyoosha hawa viongozi wanaoshika vyeo na kutaka kutanua kwa kula pesa za wananchi ovyo na kuvunja sheria.

Kideo cha jana kasema mwenyewe kuwa awaku hii ni moto moto kwao.

Angelaa kimya tu, kuliko kuandika ambacho hata akijaleta jipya. Hapa aiseeeeeee inasikitisha

Kweli Magufuli ni Kiongozi aliyeletwa na Mungu.

Lori hiloooooo linapita kwa kasi

Hapa kazi tu

Makonda oyeeeee

Why not wait and see the results madame, you are making alot of noise while the game not yet started.

 

[shujaa mjinga]

Ha ha ha haaaa

Yale yale kama anajiamini angesubiri huko anapotaka kwenda kufungua kesi, hamna kitu kipya hapo zaidi ya kuisoma namba.

Yaani ni kama hatuna Raisi, imefika muda hili jambo litanyoosha hawa viongozi wanaoshika vyeo na kutaka kutanua kwa kula pesa za wananchi ovyo na kuvunja sheria.

Kideo cha jana kasema mwenyewe kuwa awaku hii ni moto moto kwao.

Angelaa kimya tu, kuliko kuandika ambacho hata akijaleta jipya. Hapa aiseeeeeee inasikitisha

Kweli Magufuli ni Kiongozi aliyeletwa na Mungu.

Lori hiloooooo linapita kwa kasi

Hapa kazi tu

Makonda oyeeeee

Umemuelewa lakini umekimbilia kukomenti?

 

[kmbwembwe]

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

Bullshit..instead if you devote this intended energy resource and time to catch more drug dealers you could do the nation a favour. please save us of this nonsense. you only intend to save the interest of drug dealers and the local mafioso.

 

[BAK]

Kamanda Lissu at his best. Where is the Justice Minister when we need him!? MIA!!!!!!

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

 

[funaku]

Ni Upi msimamo wa TLS kuhusu majaji wa sakata la madawa ya kulevya?

 

[wise-comedian]

Mweh!!!

Are you also a 'learned' one?

He/she is definitely a learned one....ni keyboard tu mkuu ndio imekosea!

 

[Ndalama]

The language used here is not of the learned brother. Nobody can be judged as a thug until proven by the Court of Law. TLS you dont have a learned brother as a your president.Shame on you

Shame on you too

Is he learned brother?

 

[Makusudically]

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

Stupid ideas so to speak, Tundu Lisu himself is Criminal, he has bein accused several times and he still attends court every day, so why Makonda Rc of Dsm, and why nit not Mbowe a form six faluire ? How a form six faikure be allowed to lead a biggest political org.? Tundu Lisu is a deases.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

He/she is definitely a learned one....ni keyboard tu mkuu ndio imekosea!

Alrighty then....

 

[dist111]

Meaning he is associating TLS with politics?

That's very low on TL to associate a professional body with politics, its disgracing the TLS and none (even a layman) should support it.

 

[funaku]

Bullshit..instead if you devote this intended energy resource and time to catch more drug dealers you could do the nation a favour

Hata angeanza na issue ya katiba mpya basi ningemuona ana akili!

 

[Ndalama]

Stupid ideas so to speak, Tundu Lisu himself is Criminal, he has bein accused several times and he still attends court every day, so why Makonda Rc of Dsm, and why nit not Mbowe a form six faluire ? How a form six faikure be allowed to lead a biggest political org.? Tundu Lisu is a deases.

Lete cheti

 

[famicho]

Ha ha ha haaaa

Yale yale kama anajiamini angesubiri huko anapotaka kwenda kufungua kesi, hamna kitu kipya hapo zaidi ya kuisoma namba.

Yaani ni kama hatuna Raisi, imefika muda hili jambo litanyoosha hawa viongozi wanaoshika vyeo na kutaka kutanua kwa kula pesa za wananchi ovyo na kuvunja sheria.

Kideo cha jana kasema mwenyewe kuwa awaku hii ni moto moto kwao.

Angelaa kimya tu, kuliko kuandika ambacho hata akijaleta jipya. Hapa aiseeeeeee inasikitisha

Kweli Magufuli ni Kiongozi aliyeletwa na Mungu.

Lori hiloooooo linapita kwa kasi

Hapa kazi tu

Makonda oyeeeee

Una undugu na mpoto?

 

[barafuyamoto]

Very well understood..

We want to see justice prevailing in all crimes that have been committed openly by Bashite..

The evidence(s) are so vividly..

No one to stop u.. Go Lissu Go..!!

No matter how T. Lissu tries to dillute the situation, it remains a highly politically motivated!
Why is he trying to kill a cockroch with a sledge hammer?

 

[Noah FELIX]

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

I am sceptic if the impetus to sue RC Makonda will bear any result. And I thought that Tundu Lissu has a lot to do than making noises on the issue which has no ultimate benefits to Tanzanians. That said, he should remember to serve his people in his constituency, lest he looses it

 

[robstunner]

Hiii nchi inawasomi bwana tuache icho kingredhaa daaah sema koment zmenisaidia sana ila

Naunga mkonyo hoja [emoji1][emoji1]

 

[Ndalama]

Hata angeanza na issue ya katiba mpya basi ningemuona ana akili!

Anza wewe na katiba mpya

 

[barafuyamoto]

Naona TLS ikitembea Katika ubunifu wa kimamb na gwjm.

Mwisho wa siku tls itakuwa regarded kama tawi la chama!

 

[William J. Malecela]

Tundu Lissu:
Dear all,

I've read the discussion on the decision to go after RC Paul Makonda aka Daudi Bashite, etc. with considerable interest.

The GC decision has sparked a very lively and healthy debate on what TLS should, or should not, do as a professional bar association.

I wish to clarify on a couple of points raised in this healthy debate.

One, will going after Makonda not be misinterpreted as politically motivated attack especially given TLS President's well-known partisanship in politics? ??

My answer is, that's a likelihood but so what??? If we all agree, and I hope we do, that Bashite has committed some very serious crimes as per the law established, then his status as Regional Commissioner, and apparently a President Magufuli favourite, should not be an issue for us.

Neither should my status or political position for that matter.

To hold otherwise is to render useless the notion of equality before the law. It'll be to sanctify the dangerous notion that some people are, because of their personal or economic or political or some other, status are, to borrow George Orwell's phrase, more equal than others.

The central question for us should, therefore, be: are we legally empowered to commence legal action in a situation of widespread impunity by those in power and by law enforcement establishment? ??

Does the law allow private citizens, or statutory bodies such as the TLS, to do what the Governing Council has resolved to do???

If it does then who's better placed to do so than our collective selves, who've a legal mandate to protect rule of law???

In fact, if you ask me, going after Makonda aka Bashite, will send a much more powerful message that no one is above the law than going after small fry.

And, to me, that's especially important in the current climate of a full-blown dictatorship than at any other time in our history.

Two, why Makonda and not a thousand and one others who commit serious crimes daily???

My answer is simple: why not Makonda and his thugs who committed their crimes so brazenly and are being protected by the state so shamelessly???

The evidence against them appears overwhelming. There are eyewitness accounts, an official investigative report commissioned by the minister who's soon sacked and, on top of it all, a CCTV video clip.

If we cannot go after this state-sponsored or state-protected criminal, even with evidence as strong as this appears to be, then all our talk about defending rule of law will be an empty mockery, if not a sacrilegious lie.

Yes, there'll be noise, lots of it, that we're activists or, apparently worse, politicians.

Our refrain to such provocations should be: were the crimes committed or not? ?? If so, is taking legal action, by whoever is entitled to do so, right or wrong???

I once again thank you all for this healthy debate. TL.

- Sasa kama ameshwahukumu anaenda mahakamani kufanya nini? hahahahahhahaha

le Mutuz

 

[JipuKubwa]

The rule of law that's what we want...we have to respect the law of the land regardless our position,status and so forth.We need to start somewhere and move forward...finally we have got someone to start with. ..Bashite.