KCMC na logo ya nyoka!

[magessa78]

Nimekuwa nikijiuliza logo ya hospitali yetu kubwa kabisa ya rufaa hapa Moshi ijulikanayo kama KCMC jinsi inavyoonekana kuwa na picha kubwa ya nyoka akiwa juu ya mlima kilimanjaro akiangalia chini nashindwa kupata majibu?!navyojua nyoka ni ALAMA YA KISHETANI.nabaki najiuliza maswali yafuatayo:
1. ina maana taasisi kubwa kama hizi nazo ni FREEMANSONS?
2.ina maana taasisi kubwa kama hii inaendeshwa na nguvu za shetani?!
3.kama inaendeshwa na nguvu za kishirikina ina maana wote tunaotibiwa
pale tunaziacha nyota zetu,baraka na uhai wetu pale ili kila mara tuwe
tunaugua na kurudi kutibiwa pale mara kwa mara?!
4.ina maana makanisa ni part ya ushirikina kwa kuwa na nembo ya nyoka?!maana KCMC ni ya kanisa!!
5.Kama kweli KCMC ni mshirika wa shetani,tufanyeje jamani!!!tumeshaangamia wangapi!!

Kitu kingine kinachonishtua ni pale unapofika pale KCMC unalazimishwa kusema DINI yako hata kama huna dini au hata kama UMEOKOKA maana yeyote aliyeokoka(wengi wao)hawana dini,but unaposema huna dini inakuwa tabu,ukisema ni mkristu bado hawataki wanataka dini,why dini?!!mimi naumwa nataka matibabu wewe umeng'ang'ana nikutajie dini wapi na wapi jamani..bila kusema dini yako hupati matibabu.

Kingine ni jina la ukoo.nimekwenda pale nikawatajia jina langu DAUDI ISRAEL ELIA .kwa hiyo jina la ukoo ni ELIA.wao wakakataa eti ELIA sio jina la ukoo na halitaonekana kwenye computer,nitafute jina lingine la ukoo niwaambie ili waniandikie nimuone dokta!!nikabaki nimeduwaaaaaa hivi wao ndo wananichagulia jina la ukoo?mimi ndo ninayejua jina la ukoo wangu,then wao wanalazimisha nitafute jina lingine la ukoo..jamani haya yoote ya nini?!nahisi kuna kitu...nachohisi ni UOVU unaokamatiwa na majina ya UKOO kama akina Massawe,Muro,Maro n.k.,maana haingii akilini mtu kulazimishwa kubadili jina la ukoo wako ili eti liweze kukaa kwenye computer!!!am gutted! mnisaidie

 

[Mkatavimeo]

Cheki na biblia kwanza uone maana ya hiyo picha. Muhimbili hospital napo nembo yake ina nyoka (jaribu ku-confirm)

 

[Mlangaja]

Alama ya nyoka ina historia ndefu sana. Kihistoria hasa ilianzia pale Waisraeli walipoasi kule jangwani na Mungu akawaadhibu kwa pigo la kugongwa na nyoka. Musa alipokwenda kumwomba Mungu. Mungu alimwambia Musa atengeneze nyoka wa shaba na kumwinua na kila atakayemwangalia akigongwa na nyoka atapona. Alama ya nyoka katika kipindi hiyo haikuwa na uhusiano na shetani bali Mungu alitaka Waisraeli wamwamini kwamba yeye ndiye mponyaji. Na ni kwa imani tu watu wengeweza kupona. Tunaambiwa kwamba kuna watu walitazama nyoka yule wa shaba baada ya kugongwa na nyoka na kweli walipona, hata hivyo wapo ambao hawakutazama na kwa hakika walikufa. Hii inatufundisha kwamba kupona kwetu ni kwa imani na anayeponya ni Mungu pekee. Ndiyo maana Yohana sura ya 3:14 Yesu anasema, "Na kama vile Musa alivyomwinua yule nyoka jangwani, vivyo hivyo Mwana wa Adamu hana budi kuinuliwa; ili kila mtu aaminiye awe na uzima wa milele katika yeye." Logo hii ilianza kutumika katika mahospitali ya uingereza wakati ule wa tauni. Logo hii iliwapa watu imani kwamba aponyae ni Mungu kama vile alivyofanya kwa Waisraeli kule jangwani. Hivyo ndugu yangu usiwe na wasi wasi, nyoka aliyeko kwenye logo hana uhusiano na mashetani bali ni nembo ya uponyaji kutoka kwa Mungu.

 

[Mabulangati]

Ndugu yangu ni kwambie kuwa alama ya nyoka ni alama ambayo iliwekwa wakati wa Musa alipoambiwa wote watakaoumwa na nyoka wakimtazama watatibika. Hivyo ni ni nembo ya afya hasa inayohusisha madawana inatumika duniani kote siyo KCMC tu.

Naomba nikushauri ndugu nyoka ni mdudu mjanja na pindi anapozeeka hujimugua ngozi na kuendelea kuishi pia ukimtwnga kama usipoponda kichwa chake na kumchoma wanastaili kutumia aina fulani ya majani ambayo humponya, hivyo kwa kipindi kile alichukuliwa kuwa mfano wa shetani ni kama unavyosikia jehanamu ni namna tu ya kuelezea sehemu watakapoenda wadhambi palivyo kwa kuwa maana yake halisi kule Izrael ni tanuru la kuchomea takataka ambapo moto wake hauzimwi.

Swala la freemanson ndugu yangu si jambo la kuongelea tu kwangu mimi wala sina mpango wa kuliwazia ila naamini ni watu wasiyo na dini na wanaamini katika utajiri na hivyo ni chombo kinachotumiwa na mabeberu kulaghai watwana wao. Nakushauri usiliwazie sana amini katika MUNGU wako naye atakupa nuru maishani mwako.

 

[Click_and_go]

....am totally confused!

 

[Mlangaja]

Why confused?

....am totally confused!

 

[kapotolo]

Pole ndugu yangu ulieleta hii post, badala ya kuuliza maana ya hiyo logo, wewe umeeleza shutuma zako kwa hospitali ya KCMC bila hata kuwa na evidence na shutuma zako. Naona ulikuwa unataka kuishutumu KCMC kwa udini lakini hukuwa na cha kuanzia. Logo ya nyoka ipo kwenye nembo ya hospitali au tasisi nyingi zinazodili na afya kama vyuo vya medicine. Sijui kama ulitafiti kabla ya shutuma ulizotoa lakini angalia Muhimbili, Hopitali na chuo vyote vina nyoka katika nembo zao.
Angalia IMTU wao wana nyoka wawili wanatazamana. Kwa hiyo ningekushauri uandike post nyingine uiombe radhi kcmc kwa kuichafua kwamba wapo kwenye kundi la freemasons.

Halafu hii post inaingiaje kwenye jukwaa la Siasa, hii yote inaonyesha jinsi ulivyokurupuka. Samahani kama nimekujibu kwa ukali kidogo lakini shutuma ulizotoa ni nzito sana.



Hizo ni Logo za MUhimbili, IMTU Hospital na Kibosho School of Nursing, zote zina nyoka.

 

[Mwanajamii]

Kwanza umeanza kulalamika na alama ya hospitali na kisha ukaanza hudumu, ni kama hadithi ya kutunga.sasa kipi unalalamikia nembo au huduma?

 

[Ndibalema]

Mh! hii dunia ahii!!
Bata ukimchunguza sana hutomla, cha msingi ukiumwa wewe nenda ukatibiwe tu ukipona umshukuru Mungu wako maisha yanaendelea.

 

[magessa78]

Siwezi kuomba msamaha kapotolo.nimeacha swali mnisaidie kujibu,sio kwamba nimefikia conclusion moja kwa moja,ni maswali niliyokuwa nayo dhidi ya KCMC,but bado siamini sana katika nyoka..,kwa nini taasisi zote za afya ziwe na nembo hiyo?!?!ingawa imeandikwa but sitakubaliana na hilo kwa sasa...bado siamini ktk NYOKA kwa dunia ya leo,kipindi kile YES ilikuwa instructions kwa Musa toka kwa Mungu,je hata hizi membo mlizonazo(Muhimbili,kcmc etc) ni maagizo toka kwa Mungu muwe na nembo za nyoka?!!!we only know in surface leve,but in deep level ni vitu vingine!!

 

[doup]

Jamani hata mimi kutumika kwa nyoka sikufagilii kabisa, hasa kwa zama zetu hizi nyoka ni kiumbe hatari hata simba mwenyewe na ubabe wake akiona nyoka anatoka nduki. nashauri bora taasisi za afya wangeanza kutumia majani ya mimea, test tube, flask n.k. kuliko nyoka.

kwa kifupi nyoka a.k.a mkanda si alama ya tumaini, na wagonjwa huitaji tumaini ili kupona

 

[Mohammed Hamad]

​

Muhimbili logo

The rod of Asclepius (⚕; sometimes also spelled Asklepios or Aesculapius), also known as the asklepian,[1] is an ancient symbol associated with astrology, the Greek god Asclepius, and with medicine and healing. It consists of a serpent entwined around a staff. The name of the symbol derives from its early and widespread association with Asclepius, the son of Apollo, who was a practitioner of medicine in ancient Greek mythology. His attributes, the snake and the staff, sometimes depicted separately in antiquity, are combined in this symbol.[2] Hippocrates himself was a worshipper of Asclepius.[3]

Symbolism

he serpent and the staff appear to have been separate symbols that were combined at some point in the development of the Asclepian cult.[4] The significance of the serpent has been interpreted in many ways; sometimes the shedding of skin and renewal is emphasized as symbolizing rejuvenation,[5] while other assessments center on the serpent as a symbol that unites and expresses the dual nature of the work of the physician, who deals with life and death, sickness and health.[6] The ambiguity of the serpent as a symbol, and the contradictions it is thought to represent, reflect the ambiguity of the use of drugs[7], which can help or harm, as reflected in the meaning of the term pharmakon, which meant "drug", "medicine" and "poison" in ancient Greek;[8] we know that today antidotes and vaccines are often compounded from precisely the thing that caused the poisoning or illness. Products deriving from the bodies of snakes were known to have medicinal properties in ancient times, and in ancient Greece, at least some were aware that snake venom that might be fatal if it entered the bloodstream could often be imbibed. Snake venom appears to have been 'prescribed' in some cases as a form of therapy.[9] The staff has also been variously interpreted. One view is that it, like the serpent, "conveyed notions of resurrection and healing", while another (not necessarily incompatible) is that the staff was a walking stick associated with itinerant physicians.[10] Cornutus, a philosopher probably active in the first century CE, in the Theologiae Graecae Compendium (Ch. 33) offers a view of the significance of both snake and staff:
“ Asclepius derived his name from healing soothingly and from deferring the withering that comes with death. For this reason, therefore, they give him a serpent as an attribute, indicating that those who avail themselves of medical science undergo a process similar to the serpent in that they, as it were, grow young again after illnesses and slough off old age; also because the serpent is a sign of attention, much of which is required in medical treatments. The staff also seems to be a symbol of some similar thing. For by means of this it is set before our minds that unless we are supported by such inventions as these, in so far as falling continually into sickness is concerned, stumbling along we would fall even sooner than necessary. ”

—Asclepius: A Collection and Interpretation of the Testimonies, Baltimore, 1945​

In any case the two symbols certainly merged in antiquity as representations of the snake coiled about the staff are common. It has been claimed that the snake wrapped around the staff was a species of rat snake, Elaphe longissima.[11]
[edit] Biblical

A similar symbol, Nehushtan, is mentioned in the Bible in the Book of Numbers (Numbers 21:6-9).

Then the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. And the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD and against you. Pray to the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live." Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit anyone, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.[12]
​

[edit] Medical

A direct representation of ancient traditional treatment of Dracunculus medinensis, the winding worm of death. The worm peeks out of ulcerous blisters to lay eggs, primarily when the wound is placed in water to cool and soothe it. The practitioner would pull the worm out slowly by winding it around a stick.[13]
[edit] Professional usage


The EMS Star of Life features a rod of Asclepius


A number of organizations and services use the rod of Asclepius as their logo, or part of their logo. These include:

• Academy of Medicine of Malaysia
• American Osteopathic Association
• American Medical Association
• American Academy of Family Physicians
• American College of Osteopathic Internists
• American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law
• American Hippocratic Registry
• American Medical Student Association
• American Veterinary Medical Association
• Army Medical Department of the U.S. Army (AMEDD)
• Australian Medical Association
• Australian Veterinary Association
• British Royal Army Medical Corps
• Canadian Association of Physician Assistants
• Canadian Medical Association
• Canadian Forces Medical Service
• International Medical University, Malaysia
• Pakistan Army Medical Corps
• Royal Australian Army Medical Corps
• Malaysian Medical Council
• MedicAlert
• Spanish National Council of Medical Student's Association (CEEM)
• Student Osteopathic Medical Association
• Star of Life, symbol of emergency medical services
• United States Navy Hospital Corps
• United States Air Force Medical Corps
• World Health Organization

[edit] Confusion with the caduceus

Main article: Caduceus as a symbol of medicine

The U.S. Army Medical Corps Branch Plaque. In 1902 the caduceus was added to the uniforms of Army medical officers.


It is relatively common, especially in the United States, to find the caduceus, with its two snakes and wings, used as a symbol of medicine instead of the correct rod of Asclepius, with only a single snake. This usage is erroneous, popularised largely as a result of the adoption of the caduceus as its insignia by the US Army medical corps in 1902 at the insistence of a single officer (though there are conflicting claims as to whether this was Capt. Frederick P. Reynolds or Col. John R. van Hoff).[14][15]
The rod of Asclepius is the dominant symbol for healthcare professionals and associations in the United States. One survey found that 62% of healthcare professionals used the rod of Asclepius, while 76% of commercial healthcare organizations used the caduceus.[16]
The initial errors leading to its adoption and the continuing confusion it generates are well known to medical historians. The long-standing and abundantly attested historical associations of the caduceus with commerce, theft, deception, and death are considered by many to be inappropriate in a symbol used by those engaged in the healing arts.[15] This has occasioned significant criticism of the use of the caduceus in a medical context.
“ As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a hearse than on a physician's car. ”

—Stuart L. Tyson, "The Caduceus", in The Scientific Monthly[17]​

[edit] Standard representation

The rod of Asclepius has a representation on the Miscellaneous Symbols table of the Unicode Standard at U+2695 (&#9877.
[edit] See also

• Aaron's rod
• Bowl of Hygieia
• Nehushtan
• Phurba
• Asklepian Circle

[edit] References

1. ^ Wilcox, Robert A; Whitham, Emma M (15 April 2003). "The symbol of modern medicine: why one snake is more than two". Annals of Internal Medicine. Sign In. Retrieved 2007-06-15.
2. ^ See for example Pausanias, Description of Greece 2.26.1-28.1 (here translated by Jones) 2nd A.D.: "The image of Asklepios is, in size, half as big as Zeus Olympios at Athens, and is made of ivory and gold. An inscription tells us that the artist was Thrasymedes, a Parian, son of Arignotos. The god is sitting on a seat grasping a staff; the other hand he is holding above the head of the serpent."
3. ^ "Caduceus"
4. ^ Stephen Lock, John M. Last, George Dunea, The Oxford Illustrated Companion To Medicine, 2001, p261 "In early statues of Asclepius the rod and serpent were represented separately."
5. ^ "Asklepios' reptile was a healing creature: in ancient mythology the snake, whose skin was shed and rejuvenated, symbolized eternity and restoration of life and health" Albert R. Jonsen, The New Medicine and the Old Ethics, Harvard University Press, 1990, p122; this interpretation was current in Antiquity, as can be seen in an account of Apollodorus: "your marvel at the serpent curling around him and say that it is the symbol of the healing art, because just as the serpent sloughs the skin of old age, so the medical art releases from illness." (in E. Edelstein and L. Edelstein (eds.), Asclepius: A Collection and Interpretation of the Testimonies, Baltimore, 1945, p12)
6. ^ "[...] the ancient conception of the serpent as the embodiment of the mystery of one absolute life of the earth, which entails a continual dying and resurrection [...] the combination of corruption and salvation, of darkness and light, of good and evil in the Asklepian symbol." Jan Schouten, The Rod and Serpent of Asklepios, Symbol of Medicine, 1967, p2
7. ^ Albert R. Jonsen, The New Medicine and the Old Ethics, Harvard University Press, 1990, p122-123
8. ^ Henry E. Sigerist, A History of Medicine, Oxford University Press, 1987, p27-28
9. ^ James A. Kelhoffer, Miracle and Mission, Mohr Siebeck, 2000, p438-439 "[...] it was known, at least by some people in antiquity, that a snake's venom is not harmful if imbibed, but rather only if it enters directly into a person's blood stream. For example, the first-century CE historian Lucan writes that the younger Cato, when leading his troops through Libya during the Roman Civil War, informed his men about this very point [...] 'The poison of snakes is only deadly when mixed with the blood; their venom is in their bite, and they threaten death with their fangs. There is no death in the cup.'" He also mentions an account of Cornelius Celsus (first century CE) "'For a serpent's poison, like certain hunter's poisons..., does no harm when swallowed, but only in a wound'". "Likewise, Galen relates a rather peculiar healing by Asclepius involving viper's venom. The god appeared to a wealthy man in Pergamum and prescribed 'that he should drink every day of the drug produced from the vipers and should anoint the body from the outside.' [...] The elder Philostratus describes a similar practice of 'the wise Asclepiads,' who 'heal the bites of venomous creatures... using the virus itself as a cure of many diseases.'"
10. ^ Andre Menez, The Subtle Beast, Snakes From Myth to Medicine, 2003, p14
11. ^ Gerald David Hart, Martin St. J. Forrest, Asclepius: The God of Medicine, 2000, p42
12. ^ [1].
13. ^ Blayney, Keith (Sept 2002). "The Caduceus vs. the Staff of Asclepius". Alternative Journal of Nursing July 2007, Issue 14, page 4. Sign In.
14. ^ F.H. Garrison, "The Use of the Caduceus in the Insignia of the Army Medical Officer", in Bull. Med. Lib. Assoc. IX (1919-20), 13-16
15. ^ a b Engle, Bernice (Dec 1929). "The Use of Mercury's Caduceus as a Medical Emblem"". The Classical Journal 25 (1): 205.
16. ^ Friedlander, Walter J (1992). The Golden Wand of Medicine: A History of the Caduceus symbol in medicine. Greenwood Press. ISBN 0-313-28023-1.
17. ^ Tyson, Stuart L. "The Caduceus". Scientific Monthly 34 (6): 495.

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[jerry monny]

nenda kwenye pharmacy yoyote ile jaribu kumuuliza pharmacist aliyeko akupe uhusiano wa alama ya nyoka na matumizi yake katika nembo nyingi kwenye mahosipitali na viwanda vya madawa.utapata jibu zuri sana ndugu yangu.usiwe mwepesi kuamini mambo mabaya kwenye kila lililobaya kwako,superstition iz the timids of mind.kuna wanaowinda nyoka kama kitoweo bora kuliko vyote kwa upande wao,vipi hao utawaita wachawi au freemasons?! NO RESEACH NO WRITE TO SPEAK.

 

[boybsema]

ndugu yangu nakushauri yafuatayo kufuatia hii thread uliyopost.
1. Unatakiwa uelewe maana ya freemasons
2. uelewe maana ya nyoka kibiblia
3. uelewe maana ya nyoka kisayansi sana sana field ya medicine
4. ufanye research kwanza kabla ya kutoa matamshi mazito hasa kulaumu taasisi au kundi fulani la watu. "no research, no right to speak"
5. uelewe maana ya ushirikina
6. uelewe maana/sabau ya kuulizwa dini, jina la ukoo unapoenda hospitali yoyote duniani/kwenye hili taifa

Kwa hayo sasa nikupe ninachokifahamu kuhusu yote uliyokuwa unalaumu:
1. Nyoka kwenye nembo za mahospitali au taasisi zinazo husiana na afya:
- Nyoka yule aliyewekwa pale ametokana na ugonjwa unaoitwa Dracunculiasis an infection with Dracunculus medinensis, a nematode worm. huyu mnyoo unasababishwa na kunywa maji yaliyo na vimea vya hawa minyoo. matibabu yake yalikuwa ni kuchukua mti/kijiti na kumzungushia huyu mnyoo aliye mguu hadi anachomoka. ndo maana ukiangalia logo nyingi zina mti aliyezungushiwa huyu nyoka.

picha ya chini ndo ugonjwa wenyewe, na jinsi mnyoo unavyoonekana.


2. Dini yako:
- kuna baadhi ya magonjwa/matatizo ya kiafya yanahusiana na dini
3. Ukoo wako:
- wanatengeneza database kwenye hospital medical records, sasa ukiulizwa majina yako matatu muhimu sana ndg yako...ulipoulizwa ELIA ndo jina la ukoo akabisha ni kweli.
kwenye hospital cards: SURNAME.......(JINA LA UKOO/FAMILIA), FIRST NAME.........(JINA LA MWANZO), OTHER NAMES...........(MAJINA MENGINE)
Ukoo unasaidia kuweka records zako ndg

Nawakilisha...

 

[Mwanajamii]

Unalalamika ubaguzi uliotendewa na KCMC lakini na wewe unachambua nembo ya KCMC katika mantiki ambayo ni ya kibaguzi!!!!!!!!!! Upo kama una kaudini ndani ya moyo wako lakini unakaficha na kukapaka mafuta kwa mgongo wa chupa.

 

[Mwanajamii]

Usifikiri ni wewe tu umekwenda kutibiwa KCMC mbona tupo wengi lakini hatujakutana na masaibu kama yako!!!!!!!!!!!!! kimsingi unataka kutuambia kuwa KCMC wanatibu wagonjwa mpaka kwanza waulize dini ya mtu jambo ambalo ni kinyume ya sheria za nchi. Kama ungepeleka malalamiko haya kwenye vyombo husika ikiwemo Polisi wangeweza kuwachukulia hatua hata kama wasingewachukulia hatua bado ungekuwa na RB ya polisi inayoonyesha ulipeleka malalamiko. Hapa Jf ni jukwaa la maoni tu na kujenga hoja zenye mantiki.

 

[Darwin]

Kuna threads na maswali mengine yakitolewa hapa JF ukiyaona umeshamjua muanzishaji kiwango chake cha elimu.

 

[Maishamapya]

Siwezi kuomba msamaha kapotolo.nimeacha swali mnisaidie kujibu,sio kwamba nimefikia conclusion moja kwa moja,ni maswali niliyokuwa nayo dhidi ya KCMC,but bado siamini sana katika nyoka..,kwa nini taasisi zote za afya ziwe na nembo hiyo?!?!ingawa imeandikwa but sitakubaliana na hilo kwa sasa...bado siamini ktk NYOKA kwa dunia ya leo,kipindi kile YES ilikuwa instructions kwa Musa toka kwa Mungu,je hata hizi membo mlizonazo(Muhimbili,kcmc etc) ni maagizo toka kwa Mungu muwe na nembo za nyoka?!!!we only know in surface leve,but in deep level ni vitu vingine!!

You asked for explanation and the people in JF have been very kind. They have provided the BEST explanation so far. Ila kama mtazamo wako ni huo kwenye red ... it sounds very superstitious. Kwa kifupi, ukiwa na mtazamo huo, utamwona shetani kwenye kila kitu na kila kiumbe: iwe panya, mende, sisimizi, nk. Actually, nimeshakutana na watu wa namna hiyo wengi. Nataka kuamini wewe si mmoja wao.

 

[PakaJimmy]

Huyu hakwenda kutibiwa, alikuwa na lake jambo, kitaalamu watu wa aina hii tunawaita 'ghost-clients', na ni mrongo sana huyu.
Nimepeleka wagonjwa wengi sn pale kcmc sijakutana na complications za dini!
Hasidi hana sababu.

 

[araway]

nimesha wahi kujiuliza kuhusiana na hii habari ya nyoka na msalaba kwenye mahospitali yetu sikupata jibu, naona ni wengi inawachanganya, hii ni alama mojawapo nilipata marangu hospitali.