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Je, Biblia ya ukweli/Halisi ni ipi?

Gavana said:
NI kweli , kwani hapa Limevundishwa kupita kiasi wala ubani haupo wa kulivundua


The Lost Books of the Bible​

Books Mentioned, But Not Found, In The Bible

There are twenty-two books mentioned in the Bible, but not included. The variation is due to possible double mentions using differing names for the same book.​

Book of the Covenant

Exodus 24:7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
There are those that believe the Book of the Covenant is found in Exodus chapters 20 through 23. There are no authoritative sources for this text.

Book of the Wars of the Lord

Numbers 21:14 Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,
Certain sources believe that this is to be found by drawing text from several Old Testament books. There are no authoritative sources for this text.

Book of Jasher Here We have the entire book on this site Here

Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

The Manner of the Kingdom / Book of Statutes

1 Samuel 10:25 Then Samuel told the people the manner of the kingdom, and wrote it in a book, and laid it up before the Lord. And Samuel sent all the people away, every man to his house.

Book of Samuel the Seer

1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

Nathan the Prophet

1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

2 Chronicles 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Acts of Solomon

1 Kings 11:41 And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon?

Shemaiah the Prophet

2 Chronicles 12:15 Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.

Prophecy of Abijah

2 Chronicles 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Story of Prophet Iddo

2 Chronicles 13:22 And the rest of the acts of Abijah, and his ways, and his sayings, are written in the story of the prophet Iddo.

Visions of Iddo the Seer

2 Chronicles 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Iddo Genealogies

2 Chronicles 12:15 Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.


Book of Jehu

2 Chronicles 20:34 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Jehu the son of Hanani, who is mentioned in the book of the kings of Israel.

Sayings of the Seers Here

2 Chronicles 33:19 His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sin, and his trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among the sayings of the seers.

Book of Enoch Here

Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Book of Gad the Seer

1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

Epistle to Corinth Here

1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

Epistle to the Ephesians (Missing)

Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Epistle from Laodicea to the Colossians (Missing)

Colossians 4:16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

Nazarene Prophecy Source

Matthew 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene

Acts of Uziah

2 Chronicles 26:22 Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, first and last, did Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, write.

The Annals of King David

1 Chronicles 27:24 Joab son of Zeruiah began to count the men but did not finish. Wrath came on Israel on account of this numbering, and the number was not entered in the book of the annals of King David.

Jude, the Missing Epistle

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I ga
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Binadamu huwezi Shindana na Shetani ukamshinda,ila kwa Nguvu za Mungu.Yapasa tuombe Mwenyezi Mungu atufunulie Ukweli katika yale ambayo vitabu vyake vinatofautiana.Uzuri kuna Mengi Vitabu hivo vyote vinakubaliana.
Mfano hata katika Biblia moja yeyote kuna upinzani wa tafsiri,kama swali la wanyama najisi na waliosafi kuliwa.
 
Mwanitu said:
Binadamu huwezi Shindana na Shetani ukamshinda,ila kwa Nguvu za Mungu.Yapasa tuombe Mwenyezi Mungu atufunulie Ukweli katika yale ambayo vitabu vyake vinatofautiana.Uzuri kuna Mengi Vitabu hivo vyote vinakubaliana.
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mgen said:
Usahihi utaupata kwa allah au BBC
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ushabiki umekusukuma hadi Hujui la dhara wala la maskhara
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hivu unatumia kiungo gani kufikiri gavana
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TULIA , hivi biblia aliindika baba yako au babu yako ?? imekuwa ni maliyako ?? mbona hwishi kupapatika tu humu , bila hoja yoyote kuonyesha kuwa ni Sahihi ??
 
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Lengo la kuandika limetimia [emoji117] View attachment 1005965 Hivyo unavyo dai vimepotea ni vya kwako SISI Tumesha NG'AMUA [emoji117] YESU NI MUNGU KAMILI NA MWANADAMU KAMILI [emoji123] [emoji106]

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Here is what the Bible's theologians and historians said about this gospel:


"Many scholars of the past two centuries have denied that John wrote this book, partly because of their belief that the author fabricated many details such as the miracles and the discourses of Jesus. (The Holman Illustrated Study Bible, ISBN: 978-1-58640-275-4, Gospel of John, Page1540)"


"Critical Analysis makes it difficult to accept the idea that the gospel as it now stands was written by one person. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"Within the gospel itself there are also some inconsistencies. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"To solve these problems, scholars have proposed various rearrangements that would produce a smoother order. However, most have come to the conclusion that the inconsistencies were probably produced by subsequent editing in which homogeneous materials were added to a shorter original. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"Other difficulties for any theory of eyewitness authorship of the gospel in its present form are presented by its highly developed theology and by certain elements of its literary style. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"The gospel contains many details about Jesus not found in the synoptic gospels. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"The final editing of the gospel and arrangement in its present form probably dates from between A.D. 90 and 100. Traditionally, Ephesus has been favored as the place of composition, though many support a location in Syria, perhaps the city of Antioch, while some have suggested other places, including Alexandria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


So again, no one knows regarding the "Gospel of John":


  1. Who wrote it.
  2. How many people wrote it.
  3. When it was written.
  4. Where it was written.

Also, when one reads this gospel, he would immediately notice that it was not written by John himself. Christians say that it was John the Apostle writting about John the Baptist. The evidence in the quotes above clearly proves that this is a desperate lie! I submit to you that neither John wrote anything! Let us look at the following verses from the gospel:


"And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? (From the King James Version Bible, John 1:19)"


"John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (From the King James Version Bible, John 1:26)"


"For John was not yet cast into prison. (From the King James Version Bible, John 3:24)"


etc...


Whoever wrote the gospel, was he appointed or inspired by GOD Almighty? If yes, then who is that man? It can't be John for it is quite obvious from the above verses and many more throughout the gospel that John wasn't the original author. One has to be ridiculously biased and blind in faith to deny that.


So now, what about these most popular verses:


"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was was God was with authority (the same Greek word used for satan's rule [2] [3]). (From the King James Version Bible, John 1:1)"


"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (From the King James Version Bible, John 3:16)"


These verses were obviously written by mysterious men and not by any of Jesus' original disciples. Therefore, it is blasphemy to consider such verses as Divine and to try to prove Jesus is the Creator of the Universe through them.

The lie of trinity was born between the years of 150 to 300. It is quite possible and highly probable that some church wrote the so-called "Gospel of John" from excerpts that they found.

Notice that there are 24,000 "letters" or papers found that were not included in today's New Testament, which means that the excerpts that were used for writing the "Gospel of John" and all of the other books and gospels of the NT are highly doubtful and contain no proof what so ever that they were written by any of Jesus' original disciples.

The Gospel of John was written about John but not by the original "Saint John". Big difference and big corruption! You can't consider such rubbish as GOD Almighty's Divine Holy Words.
 
Gavana said:
Here is what the Bible's theologians and historians said about this gospel:


"Many scholars of the past two centuries have denied that John wrote this book, partly because of their belief that the author fabricated many details such as the miracles and the discourses of Jesus. (The Holman Illustrated Study Bible, ISBN: 978-1-58640-275-4, Gospel of John, Page1540)"


"Critical Analysis makes it difficult to accept the idea that the gospel as it now stands was written by one person. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"Within the gospel itself there are also some inconsistencies. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"To solve these problems, scholars have proposed various rearrangements that would produce a smoother order. However, most have come to the conclusion that the inconsistencies were probably produced by subsequent editing in which homogeneous materials were added to a shorter original. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"Other difficulties for any theory of eyewitness authorship of the gospel in its present form are presented by its highly developed theology and by certain elements of its literary style. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"The gospel contains many details about Jesus not found in the synoptic gospels. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


"The final editing of the gospel and arrangement in its present form probably dates from between A.D. 90 and 100. Traditionally, Ephesus has been favored as the place of composition, though many support a location in Syria, perhaps the city of Antioch, while some have suggested other places, including Alexandria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"


So again, no one knows regarding the "Gospel of John":


  1. Who wrote it.
  2. How many people wrote it.
  3. When it was written.
  4. Where it was written.

Also, when one reads this gospel, he would immediately notice that it was not written by John himself. Christians say that it was John the Apostle writting about John the Baptist. The evidence in the quotes above clearly proves that this is a desperate lie! I submit to you that neither John wrote anything! Let us look at the following verses from the gospel:


"And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? (From the King James Version Bible, John 1:19)"


"John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (From the King James Version Bible, John 1:26)"


"For John was not yet cast into prison. (From the King James Version Bible, John 3:24)"


etc...


Whoever wrote the gospel, was he appointed or inspired by GOD Almighty? If yes, then who is that man? It can't be John for it is quite obvious from the above verses and many more throughout the gospel that John wasn't the original author. One has to be ridiculously biased and blind in faith to deny that.


So now, what about these most popular verses:


"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was was God was with authority (the same Greek word used for satan's rule [2] [3]). (From the King James Version Bible, John 1:1)"


"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (From the King James Version Bible, John 3:16)"


These verses were obviously written by mysterious men and not by any of Jesus' original disciples. Therefore, it is blasphemy to consider such verses as Divine and to try to prove Jesus is the Creator of the Universe through them.

The lie of trinity was born between the years of 150 to 300. It is quite possible and highly probable that some church wrote the so-called "Gospel of John" from excerpts that they found.

Notice that there are 24,000 "letters" or papers found that were not included in today's New Testament, which means that the excerpts that were used for writing the "Gospel of John" and all of the other books and gospels of the NT are highly doubtful and contain no proof what so ever that they were written by any of Jesus' original disciples.

The Gospel of John was written about John but not by the original "Saint John". Big difference and big corruption! You can't consider such rubbish as GOD Almighty's Divine Holy Words.
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ungekuwa muumini ungeamini Kauli ya allah na kufekelea mbali Sherehe za theologians na historians [emoji4] Kitabu kinabadilisha watu mamilioni na kuwa watu WEMA [emoji106] hadi allah mnyewe amewapa DARJA [emoji117]
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Wakuu niliweka huu uzi kama informative ili kuchochea mjadala wa kufikirishana kuhusu baadhi ya discrepancy kwenye masuala ya imani ila haikuwa nia yangu ugeuzwe kuwa uwanja wa vita za kidini... Sasa ni vzuri mjadala ubaki kwenye original post usiwe diverted kwenye masuala ya kidini mtakua mmeua nia na dhima ya huu uzi.

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Mbona unaweweseka mchana, hapo nimeandika kuhusu uislamu?? au nimenukuu maelezo ya waandishi wa hiyo biblia unayoisoma.?
Jitahidi kuja kwenye mada, hiyo biblia hukuandika wewe wala babu yako wala Askofu wako.
Weka heshima kwa mleta uzi
 
Gavana said:
Mbona unaweweseka mchana, hapo nimeandika kuhusu uislamu?? au nimenukuu maelezo ya waandishi wa hiyo biblia unayoisoma.?
Jitahidi kuja kwenye mada, hiyo biblia hukuandika wewe wala babu yako wala Askofu wako.
Weka heshima kwa mleta uzi
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waandishi kwa akili yako ndio Biblia eeh [emoji47] [emoji15] Hata huoni hishima yangu kwa sasa as if hunijui [emoji4] ingekuwa zama zangu za ujahilia &%$# [emoji38] [emoji38]

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zitto junior said:
Wakuu niliweka huu uzi kama informative ili kuchochea mjadala wa kufikirishana kuhusu baadhi ya discrepancy kwenye masuala ya imani ila haikuwa nia yangu ugeuzwe kuwa uwanja wa vita za kidini... Sasa ni vzuri mjadala ubaki kwenye original post usiwe diverted kwenye masuala ya kidini mtakua mmeua nia na dhima ya huu uzi.

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Gavana said:
PUNGUZA HASIRA ; HAZITOKUSAIDIA KITU KUJUA UKWELI

WEWE HUJAANDIKA BIBLIA WA SI MALI YAKO UNAKATIKA MAINI YA KITU GANI ???

WALIOKULETEA BIBLIA HAYA NI MANENO YAO SIYE GAVANA



THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE STATUS OF THE FOUR GOSPELS


THE GOSPELS OF MATTHEW, LUKE AND MARK.

All the ancient Christian writers and a great number of modern writers are unanimous on the point that the Gospel of Matthew was originally written in Hebrew language and has been completely obscured due to distortions and altercations made by Christians. The present Gospel is merely a Translation and is not supported by any argument of authority. Even the name of its translator is not definitely known. There are only conjectures that possibly this or that person might have translated it. This kind of argument cannot be acceptable to a non-Christian reader. This book cannot be attributed to its authors only on basis of its uncertain calculations.

The Penny Encyclopedia says regarding the Gospel of Matthew:

"This Gospel was written in the Hebrew Language and in the language which was in vogue between Syria and Chaldea in 41 AD. Only the Greek translation is available. At present the Hebrew version is the translation from the Greek Version."

Thomas Ward, a Catholic writer says in his book:

"Jerome explicitly stated in his letter that some ancient scholars were suspicious about last chapter of the Gospel of Mark; and some of them had a doubt about some verses of chapter 23 of the Gospel of Luk; and some other scholars were doubtful about the first two chapters of this Gospel. These two chapters have not been included by Marchionites (It is a sect in Christianity. They do not acknowledge the books of Old Testament as Genuine. They believe in two gods. The creator of Good and the creator of evil. To them, the books of the Old Testament are send by the second God. The chapters in the books of the New Testament which contains references to the Old testament have been removed by them) in their book."

Norton writes in his book printed in 1837 in Boston:

"This Gospel contains a passage running from verse nine to the ennd of the last chapter which callsfor research. It is surprising that Griesbach had not put any sign of doubt about its text, since he has presented numerous arguments to prove that this part was an addition by some latter people."

Later in his book, giving some more arguments he said:

"This proves that the passage in question is doubtful, espacially if we keep in mind the habit of the writers in that they usually prefer to add a text rather than to omit from it."

Griesbach is one of the most reliable scholars of the Protestant faith.
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Sasa unataka kulazimisha majibu.
JIBU langu liko pale pale.
ZIKO SAWA KWA MTIZAMO NA UELEWA WA MTUMIAJI.
 
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