It’s official: America is now No. 2

It’s official: America is now No. 2

First, my concetration from the beginning had been economic development and not economic growth! GDP and economic growth are brother and sister while economic development is brother and sister to per capita GDP and there's no way I can mix GDP and economic growth!

Coming back to about poverty in US, as said earlier, no one who says every one in US is okay... it's me who said the US social welfare is much better as compared to China... and the reference here is between US and China! Having best social programs doesn't mean you'll have all people live above the poverty line especially for a larger country like US. And since we're comparing between US and China, the above data proves poverty in China is much higher as compared to US... am not talking of number of Chinese vs Americans but am talking of percentage Chinese vs Americans. If it's all about percentage, then we ignore China's high big population.

Then put in consideration the Purchasing Power Parity with the HDI and IHDI of these countries, for instance in the UN Human Development Index report of 2013 & 2014 Norway ranks 1st and USA ranks 5th. While China in 2013 report ranks the 67th.
 
Then put in consideration the Purchasing Power Parity with the HDI and IHDI of these countries, for instance in the UN Human Development Index report of 2013 & 2014 Norway ranks 1st and USA ranks 5th. While China in 2013 report ranks the 67th.
[h=1]China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years[/h] [h=2]The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America[/h]
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Christian congregations in particular have skyrocketed since churches began reopening when Chairman Mao's death in 1976 Photo: ALAMY








By Tom Phillips, Liushi, Zhejiang province

2:00PM BST 19 Apr 2014

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It is said to be China's biggest church and on Easter Sunday thousands of worshippers will flock to this Asian mega-temple to pledge their allegiance – not to the Communist Party, but to the Cross.

The 5,000-capacity Liushi church, which boasts more than twice as many seats as Westminster Abbey and a 206ft crucifix that can be seen for miles around, opened last year with one theologian declaring it a "miracle that such a small town was able to build such a grand church".

The £8 million building is also one of the most visible symbols of Communist China's breakneck conversion as it evolves into one of the largest Christian congregations on earth.

"It is a wonderful thing to be a follower of Jesus Christ. It gives us great confidence," beamed Jin Hongxin, a 40-year-old visitor who was admiring the golden cross above Liushi's altar in the lead up to Holy Week.

"If everyone in China believed in Jesus then we would have no more need for police stations. There would be no more bad people and therefore no more crime," she added
 
What significance of any religion in China has to do with the economy? Most Chinese are Atheist, Confucists and Budhists for centruries and decades. USA had been Christian all the way and yet it owes China above USD 16 trillions in government bonds.
 
How do you calculate per capita GDP kama hakuna uhusiano na GDP? Maana paragraph ya kwanza unataka kusema kuwa GDP haina uhusiano na GDP per capita ila ina uhusiano na economic growth...GDP per capita ina uhusiano na economic development...you can't be serious....hayo yote yako linked my dear...what is needed is country policy on redistribution

Wewe main argument yako ambayo umeshindwa au unasita kuiweka wazi ni kuwa "no matter how big the economy of China becomes, it will never be enough due to its population size" kitu ambacho ndio kinatuletea utata na ubishi sababu hakuna logic ...

First, my concetration from the beginning had been economic development and not economic growth! GDP and economic growth are brother and sister while economic development is brother and sister to per capita GDP and there's no way I can mix GDP and economic growth!

Coming back to about poverty in US, as said earlier, no one who says every one in US is okay... it's me who said the US social welfare is much better as compared to China... and the reference here is between US and China! Having best social programs doesn't mean you'll have all people live above the poverty line especially for a larger country like US. And since we're comparing between US and China, the above data proves poverty in China is much higher as compared to US... am not talking of number of Chinese vs Americans but am talking of percentage Chinese vs Americans. If it's all about percentage, then we ignore China's high big population.
 
But again it does not justify to praise USA as having the best Ustawi Jamii while it has an equivalent of the whole Tanzania population living belowpeverty line
 
What significance of any religion in China has to do with the economy? Most Chinese are Atheist, Confucists and Budhists for centruries and decades. USA had been Christian all the way and yet it owes China above USD 16 trillions in government bonds.

16 trillion?? Sio kweli kabisa,16T is total gross debt na deni kubwa ni domestic and Federal government itself,Chinese wanadai around one trillion na ukiweka in net debt ni under a trillion
 
chige nashukuru kwa michangoo yako mizuri na mimi nakuunga mkono hapo kwenye ustawi wa jamii kati ya mataifa makubwa duniani, ukweli ni kwamba wasiishie kuangala just GDP figures ila waingie zaidi kuangalia how well their citizens are better off. Tukitumia GDP per capita still tutakuwa tunakosea kwasababu distribution of income is never the same across the society. Kwamfano leo hii Bill Gates amekuwa mtanzania inamaanisha GDP per capita ya watanzania ita-shoot sana na ikionesha kuwa Tanzanians are better of than any other african countries. Kumbe sio.

Sasa hivi wataalamu wameamua kutumia HDI (Human Development Index) wakiangalia availability and accessibility of basic social and necessary needs.
 
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chige nashukuru kwa michangoo yako mizuri na mimi nakuunga mkono hapo kwenye ustawi wa jamii kati ya mataifa makubwa duniani, ukweli ni kwamba wasiishie kuangala just GDP figures ila waingie zaidi kuangalia how well their citizens are better off. Tukitumia GDP per capita still tutakuwa tunakosea kwasababu distribution of income is never the same across the society. Kwamfano leo hii Bill Gates amekuwa mtanzania inamaanisha GDP per capita ya watanzania ita-shoot sana na ikionesha kuwa Tanzanians are better of than any other african countries. Kumbe sio.

Sasa hivi wataalamu wameamua kutumia HDI (Human Development Index) wakiangalia availability and accessibility of basic social and necessary needs.

That is what I had been telling my.learned brother Chige, without Human Development Index and Improved Human Development Index the Purchasing Power Parity alone is not enough to say that USA has the best UJ in the World. Norway ranks first (Reference UNDP report of 2014) USA ranks 5th.
Bear in mind that an ordinary US citizen cannot afford best health care because he/she cannot afford Insurance cover which is a must in USA, mind Obama Care. Let me remind of the housing buble and the fore closure where millions of people in USA lost their homea due to defaulting their dues.
Most public institutions like schools and hospital are not good by their own USA standards and requirements.
Please do not compare the PPP/ HDI of USA and that of Bongo. You cannot even compare that of Norway vs USA.
 
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How do you calculate per capita GDP kama hakuna uhusiano na GDP? Maana paragraph ya kwanza unataka kusema kuwa GDP haina uhusiano na GDP per capita ila ina uhusiano na economic growth...GDP per capita ina uhusiano na economic development...you can't be serious....hayo yote yako linked my dear...what is needed is country policy on redistribution


Wewe main argument yako ambayo umeshindwa au unasita kuiweka wazi ni kuwa "no matter how big the economy of China becomes, it will never be enough due to its population size" kitu ambacho ndio kinatuletea utata na ubishi sababu hakuna logic ...
Wapi nimesema hakuna uhusiano kati ya GDP na per capita? unadai paragraph ya kwanza... ipi? hii:
First, my concetration from the beginning had been economic development and not economic growth! GDP and economic growth are brother and sister while economic development is brother and sister to per capita GDP and there's no way I can mix GDP and economic growth!
Yaani kwa uelewa wako hiyo paragraph inamaanisha hakuna uhusiano kati ya GDP na per capita wakati nimesema my interest ni economic development ambayo kupimwa kwake ni zaidi ya kuangalia GDP!!

Pili, cjui ni kwanini unaamua kunilisha maneno na kudai eti nashindwa kusema
no matter how big the economy of China becomes, it will never be enough due to its population size" kitu ambacho ndio kinatuletea utata na ubishi sababu hakuna logic ...
First, yanini unaamua kunilisha maneno ili kutetea hoja yako? Pili, ngoja tuangalie ambacho nimekisema zaidi ya mara moja:
Hoja hapa ni kwamba ingawaje GDP ya China inaelekea kuipiku ya US bado ustawi US ni mkubwa kuliko China and it'll take a time kwa China kuipiku US kwenye suala zima la ustawi wa jamii
Now let me ask you: hivi it'll take time ni sawa na kusema it'll never? Ikiwa naamini it'll never, namuogopa nani hata badala yake nitumie neno it'll take time? Au unataka kusema kwako wewe neno "it'll take time" and "it'll never" ni one and the same?

Let's assume kwamba kiingereza sikijui vizuri na hivyo sifahamu tofauti ya neno "it'll take time.." and "it'll never..!" Kuna hii hapa ambayo nimeandika kwa lugha ya kiswahili... Kiswahili ambacho sikujifunzia shule kama akina Mwigulu
Sina haja ya kujaza mi-post ya nyuma kwenye post hii lakini sikukataa maelezo yako bali nilieleza kinagaubaga ni namna gani China itachelewa kuifikia US na nikaeleza ni namna gani population ya China ilivyo threat kufikia malengo mapana ya kiuchumi... Bandiko langu hapo juu ambalo linakufanya uhitimishe kwamba watu hatuelewi linaonesha ni wewe ndio huelewi coz' data ndo hizo tena kwamba umaskini China bado ni mkubwa huku wenyewe wakisema
Hapa tena tufahamiane... hivi mtu akisema atachelewa kufika maana yake hatafika ever never? Hivi kuna tofauti gani kati ya kuchelewa na it'll take time? Na unataka kusema neno kuchelewa. tafsiri yake ya Kiingereza ni it'll never? Similar argument:
uliyosema yote ni sahihi lakini kitachosababisha China kuchukua muda mrefu kufikia hayo uliyosema ni population. Hadi uchumi wa China uwe reflected to the entire population na kufikia US standard, it'll take time... at least a decade! Pamoja na kwamba middle class inakuwa lakini asilimia kubwa ya Wachina wanaishi maisha ya kawaida sana.
AGAIN... do above sentences reflect what you say about me in any way? Does a sentence, "it'll take time... at least a decade..." is the same as saying "it'll never...?" Do I need to reveal to you that those are three different posts written at different time!! Sasa hata kama ninaamini hivyo unavyolazimisha wewe kwamba ninavyoamini kwamba eti namaanisha "China will never ever reach US standard.." yaani isitokee hata mara moja nikajisahau?

Mwisho unasema kutokana na "argument yangu" ambayo kimsingi sijaisema wala kuimaanisha popote, hatimae unahitimisha
kitu ambacho ndio kinatuletea utata na ubishi sababu hakuna logic...
I hate to say this, but you was supposed to say ndio kitu kinachokuletea na ubishi sababu hakuna logic... na ofcoz, lazima upate utata kwa kuwa unabishania kitu ambacho ama kimeongelewa na mtu mwingine au hakipo kwenye mada hii! Sidhani kama maandishi yangu yana ambiguities zozote hadi atokee mtu wa kuyatafsiri....
 
That is what I had been telling my.learned brother Chige, without Human Development Index and Improved Human Development Index the Purchasing Power Parity alone is not enough to say that USA has the best UJ in the World. Norway ranks first (Reference UNDP report of 2014) USA ranks 5th.
Bear in mind that an ordinary US citizen cannot afford best health care because he/she cannot afford Insurance cover which is a must in USA, mind Obama Care. Let me remind of the housing buble and the fore closure where millions of people in USA lost their homea due to defaulting their dues.
Most public institutions like schools and hospital are not good by their own USA standards and requirements.
Please do not compare the PPP/ HDI of USA and that of Bongo. You cannot even compare that of Norway vs USA.
Come on Brother, first off all umenisingizia... never said any where that US is best of all in the world, especially when my concentration is on ustawi wa jamii. However, I can't hesitate to say the US Economy is the most stable economy than any other economy in the world... Just to recall and keep the records correct, Chige says:
First, my concetration from the beginning had been economic development and not economic growth! GDP and economic growth are brother and sister while economic development is brother and sister to per capita GDP and there's no way I can mix GDP and economic growth!


Coming back to about poverty in US, as said earlier, no one who says every one in US is okay... it's me who said the US social welfare is much better as compared to China... and the reference here is between US and China! Having best social programs doesn't mean you'll have all people live above the poverty line especially for a larger country like US. And since we're comparing between US and China, the above data proves poverty in China is much higher as compared to US... am not talking of number of Chinese vs Americans but am talking of percentage Chinese vs Americans. If it's all about percentage, then we ignore China's high big population.
And you know what, I am afraid may be you missed my point somewhere... am talking of economic development(refer the bold highlighted sentence in dark brown above)... when we talk of ustawi wa jamii we look on economic developement and not per capita! If you go through my posts, I gave examples of Scandinavian countries as best examples! Just to recall and keeps the record corrects, here:
... ndio maana ni nchi za Scandinavia ndizo zinaongoza kwenye ustawi wa jamii coz' population ya zile nchi ni ndogo na sidhani kama kuna any Scandinavian country ambayo population yake ina-exceed 10 million lakini zote si miongoni mwa nchi zenye GDP kubwa duniani!


Kama bado hujaona effect ya population kwenye economic development basi ningekushauri pitia upya makarabrasha yako ya uchumi!!
However, someone talked of Qatar & the like, again, I insisted to show how much figures (including per capita GDP) doesn't matter as long as we talk of economic development! Here again:
Kwavile nilizungumzia ustawi wa jamii, kwa makusudi sikutaka kuzitaja Qatar, Brunei, UAE kwa sababu moja kubwa ya msingi! Ingawaje wana per capita kubwa sana, na wananchi wake kuwa na ustawi mkubwa wa kiuchumi, lakini kutokana na nature/utamaduni wa hizo nchi am afraid kama wako very much improved in terms of education... improvement inayoendana na utajiri wao! Kwa bahati mbaya, tunapozungumzia ustawi wa jamii, we don't concentrate into monetary income alone (ambayo no problem kwa Qatar, UAE, Brunei nd the like) bali tunaangalia hadi improvement of social services... one of the main being education.
But all in all, I already got the last nail into the coffin since the beginning, I mean before above arguments, here's what I told Nyani Ngabu mwanzoni tu ma hoja yangu
Mkuu Nyani Ngabu, ukisikia ustawi wa jamii ina-include elimu, yaani unazingatia indicators za UNDP na sio hizi za IMF or World bank ambazo wanaangalia figures!
I have no doubt that you know when we talk of IMF & World Bank indicators we simply talk of GDP and per capita GDP!
 
labda tuongee kwa mifano. Gabon, Botswana na equatorial guinea zina ustawi wa jamii mkubwa kuliko Nigeria lakini kisiasa, kiuchumi na kijeshi nani anaushawishi zaidi?. Norway wanaustawi kuliiko US lakini ni nani mwenye ushawishi mkubwa kwenye masuala ya dunia?.
ukiangalia hii trend utaona nchi zenye GDP PPP ndiyo zenye ushawishi mkubwa (nguvu). kwa hiyo kwa China kuipita US GDP PPP tutegemee ushawishi(nguvu) za US kupungua siku si nyingi.
 
ooo yes...na ukizingatia China ni nchi inayoweza fanya maamuzi haraka zaidi kwa kuwa hakuna cha republican wala democrats...ni authoritarian regime kind of...

Mimi nachofuraia ni dunia kupata equalizer...

labda tuongee kwa mifano. Gabon, Botswana na equatorial guinea zina ustawi wa jamii mkubwa kuliko Nigeria lakini kisiasa, kiuchumi na kijeshi nani anaushawishi zaidi?. Norway wanaustawi kuliiko US lakini ni nani mwenye ushawishi mkubwa kwenye masuala ya dunia?.
ukiangalia hii trend utaona nchi zenye GDP PPP ndiyo zenye ushawishi mkubwa (nguvu). kwa hiyo kwa China kuipita US GDP PPP tutegemee ushawishi(nguvu) za US kupungua siku si nyingi.
 
That is what I had been telling my.learned brother Chige, without Human Development Index and Improved Human Development Index the Purchasing Power Parity alone is not enough to say that USA has the best UJ in the World. Norway ranks first (Reference UNDP report of 2014) USA ranks 5th.
Bear in mind that an ordinary US citizen cannot afford best health care because he/she cannot afford Insurance cover which is a must in USA, mind Obama Care. Let me remind of the housing buble and the fore closure where millions of people in USA lost their homea due to defaulting their dues.
Most public institutions like schools and hospital are not good by their own USA standards and requirements.
Please do not compare the PPP/ HDI of USA and that of Bongo. You cannot even compare that of Norway vs USA.

I think this will help the readers:

The HDI was created to emphasize that people and their capabilities should be the ultimate criteria for assessing the development of a country, not economic growth alone. The HDI can also be used to question national policy choices, asking how two countries with the same level of GNI per capita can end up with different human development outcomes. These contrasts can stimulate debate about government policy priorities.


The Human Development Index (HDI) is a summary measure of average achievement in key dimensions of human development: a long and healthy life, being knowledgeable and have a decent standard of living. The HDI is the geometric mean of normalized indices for each of the three dimensions.


The health dimension is assessed by life expectancy at birth component of the HDI is calculated using a minimum value of 20 years and maximum value of 85 years. The education component of the HDI is measured by mean of years of schooling for adults aged 25 years and expected years of schooling for children of school entering age. Mean years of schooling is estimated by UNESCO Institute for Statistics based on educational attainment data from censuses and surveys available in its database. Expected years of schooling estimates are based on enrolment by age at all levels of education. This indicator is produced by UNESCO Institute for Statistics. Expected years of schooling is capped at 18 years. The indicators are normalized using a minimum value of zero and maximum aspirational values of 15 and 18 years respectively. The two indices are combined into an education index using arithmetic mean.


The standard of living dimension is measured by gross national income per capita. The goalpost for minimum income is $100 (PPP) and the maximum is $75,000 (PPP). The minimum value for GNI per capita, set at $100, is justified by the considerable amount of unmeasured subsistence and nonmarket production in economies close to the minimum that is not captured in the official data. The HDI uses the logarithm of income, to reflect the diminishing importance of income with increasing GNI. The scores for the three HDI dimension indices are then aggregated into a composite index using geometric mean. Refer to Technical notes for more details.


The HDI does not reflect on inequalities, poverty, human security, empowerment, etc. The HDRO offers the other composite indices as broader proxy on some of the key issues of human development, inequality, gender disparity and human poverty.


A fuller picture of a country's level of human development requires analysis of other indicators and information presented in the statistical annex of the report.

Human Development Index (HDI) | Human Development Reports
 
labda tuongee kwa mifano. Gabon, Botswana na equatorial guinea zina ustawi wa jamii mkubwa kuliko Nigeria lakini kisiasa, kiuchumi na kijeshi nani anaushawishi zaidi?. Norway wanaustawi kuliiko US lakini ni nani mwenye ushawishi mkubwa kwenye masuala ya dunia?.
ukiangalia hii trend utaona nchi zenye GDP PPP ndiyo zenye ushawishi mkubwa (nguvu). kwa hiyo kwa China kuipita US GDP PPP tutegemee ushawishi(nguvu) za US kupungua siku si nyingi.

Brazil na UK?? Japan na France??

Japan na Brazil zina GDP kubwa kuliko UK na France ila zenye ushawishi ni viceversa
 
Brazil na UK?? Japan na France??

Japan na Brazil zina GDP kubwa kuliko UK na France ila zenye ushawishi ni viceversa

Please note this list
Richest Country in Africa Per Capita-Income

1 Seychelles $25,439.92
2 Equatorial Guinea $19,818.11
3 Gabon $17,053.47
4 Botswana $16,578.59
5 South Africa $11,273.08
6 Libya $10,129.61
7 Tunisia $9,706.59
8 Namibia $7,694.44
9 Algeria $7,541.85
10 Egypt $6,594.00

Seychelles – The Richest Country In Africa
GDP (PPP) Per Capita:-$25,439.92

Officially Republic of Seychelles, based on per capita income, it is the wealthiest nation from Africa. This country is made up of small 115 islands and its population is less than 0.1 million. It is located in the Indian Ocean to the East of Africa. It is not located in mainland Africa, but as per conventions it is counted as an African nation. Its GDP is lesser than many people on the list of Forbes billionaires. -Salmon is one of the highly exported thing from this African nation. With a small population and small GDP, it occupies the first spot in this list.

Now if you compare to the Sychelles country like Algeria and Libya which are rich in Oil and gas resources, one should wonder why Sychelles is the richest. We should go back to do root cause analysis and review the PPP, against HDI of these countries and do the reality check.
 
Waliushikilia wao zaidi ya miaka 100 na upumbavu,kweli kwenye nia kuna njia.
Nalog off
 
Brazil na UK?? Japan na France??

Japan na Brazil zina GDP kubwa kuliko UK na France ila zenye ushawishi ni viceversa
hii ni sababu hizi nchi zilijilimbikizia mamlaka wakati zipo njema. mfano UK na France zina VETO wakati Japan na Brazil hawana. ila hilo nalo litabadilika soon.
 
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