I seek guidance please: Is Jesus 100% God or 100% Man?

[mulwanaka]

Jina + Roho( akili) + Neno=?
Just a reminder ( Dhambi yyte usameheka isipokuwa kumkufuru Roho mtakatifu)

That remained as ashort tale you cnt prove it biblically or intellectually, its just a dogma which wll never reason it out

 

[mulwanaka]

Wewe hapo una mwili, una nafsi na una roho lakini still wewe ni mtu mmoja, vipi hili unalizungumziaje?

You want to mean that Jesus is just one component of God but not full God......tell us what part is he sprite body or soul?.......God can't be component of any thing if you think in that way you ur false.

 

[plan z]

You want to mean that Jesus is just one component of God but not full God......tell us what part is he sprite body or soul?.......God can't be component of any thing if you think in that way you ur false.

Yesu ni nafsi ya Mungu

 

[mulwanaka]

Yesu ni nafsi ya Mungu

Kwahili mwili ni nani?......hahaha acha utani kwenye imani za watu Mungu sio vipande vipande

 

[plan z]

Kwahili mwili ni nani?......hahaha acha utani kwenye imani za watu Mungu sio vipande vipande

Sasa wewe unachobisha hapo ni nini?
Mungu hana mwili kama wakwetu hapo nimekutolea mfano wako wewe ulivyo na mwili, nafsi na roho. Mungu naye ni mmoja katika nafsi tatu, amefanya hivyo kwa kusudi maalumu, mwisho wa miisho yote atajirudi kuwa mmoja katika nafsi moja, atajirudije? tumwachie yeye. Kwa swali lako ulilouliza kwenye mada, mimi kwa niaba ya wakristo wenzangu majibu yake ni haya.

 

[lloyd996]

That remained as ashort tale you cnt prove it biblically or intellectually, its just a dogma which wll never reason it out

Kumbe husomi bible ndo shida yako mkuu sorry. Hujasoma Ile phase Inayosema kuwa hapo mwanzo palikuwa na neno nae neno alikuwa kwa Mungu. ko ww bible inavosema sisi ni kama Wana wali utahisi tunatukanwa?

 

[kapunika]

Mulwanaka brother, the following are facts.
1. Jesus has never ever been God. Unlike God who has got no beginning, Jesus has one as he was created by God. Yes, he is God's creation.
2. He was 100% man (while on earth) as he ate, drank, got tired and later died just like how men do. (but man, was he powerful! Just you try water walking.) there is alot to learn about Jesus starting with his angelic beginning. Yes, he is an angel.., lets just put aside our "emotions" and humbly reason on facts. Dont hesitate to ask questions, even those hard ones you have been told not to, as long as you aim at not poking fun on God or belittle other people along with their beliefs.

 

[lloyd996]

Mulwanaka brother, the following are facts.
1. Jesus has never ever been God. Unlike God who has got no beginning, Jesus has one as he was created by God. Yes, he is God's creation.
2. He was 100% man (while on earth) as he ate, drank, got tired and later died just like how men do. (but man, was he powerful! Just you try water walking.) there is alot to learn about Jesus starting with his angelic beginning. Yes, he is an angel.., lets just put aside our "emotions" and humbly reason on facts. Dont hesitate to ask questions, even those hard ones you have been told not to, as long as you aim at not poking fun on God or belittle other people along with their beliefs.

Jesus is not an Angel( the lowest level of all heavenly beings after Jesus' resurrection) In fact he is God and he was there since the beginning. Bible says God created everything through his words and who is GOD's words according to bible?

 

[Joseph lebai]

I don't understand, a lot of contradictions, Jesus as God at the same time as human being. That's why I always doubt about Christianity.

 

[Giftedson]

Kama yesu ni Mungu. Kwanini alipokua duniani alikua anamwomba Mungu tena amwepushe na mateso.

 

[mulwanaka]

Jesus is not an Angel( the lowest level of all heavenly beings after Jesus' resurrection) In fact he is God and he was there since the beginning. Bible says God created everything through his words and who is GOD's words according to bible?

If being God is simple Adam would be the first God before Jesus bcz for him he had no Father nor Mother........those who worship Jesus and his mother Mary should think twice.

 

[sinajinasasa]

what do you have you to say on this incidence?

One story about Jesus in the bible that is confusing and incoherent is the story of the fig tree. Matthew 21:18-19 states, "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."

1. Jesus was hungry (God hungry?)

2. He cursed the fig tree because it wasn't bearing fruit.
A).God didn't know the tree didn't have fruit
B). He cursed a perfectly good tree that was only conforming to its nature to bear fruit in the season God designed it to.

3. The Human nature of Jesus overrode his divine nature and cursed the tree.

For me 3 is an incredibly huge problem. His "divine" nature did not stop his human nature from curse.
Nb
Plz avoid your emotions while answering and reasoning this out. plz.

Jesus never existed...the bible was brought to us by the babylonians (the catholics).
It is understood perfectly by the freemasons..
What is known to be Jesus is Tamuz, and the Father is Nimrod and Semiramis as the mother of Jesus.
You don't have to trust the bible, it is full of masonic symbolism..
You are a sovereign ruler, you don't need to worship any deity

 

[mulwanaka]

Jesus never existed...the bible was brought to us by the babylonians (the catholics).
It is understood perfectly by the freemasons..
What is known to be Jesus is Tamuz, and the Father is Nimrod and Semiramis as the mother of Jesus.
You don't have to trust the bible, it is full of masonic symbolism..
You are a sovereign ruler, you don't need to worship any deity

My brother all those are mere myth, no evidance to backup them

 

[GentleGiant]

Mulwanaka brother, the following are facts.
1. Jesus has never ever been God. Unlike God who has got no beginning, Jesus has one as he was created by God. Yes, he is God's creation.
2. He was 100% man (while on earth) as he ate, drank, got tired and later died just like how men do. (but man, was he powerful! Just you try water walking.) there is alot to learn about Jesus starting with his angelic beginning. Yes, he is an angel.., lets just put aside our "emotions" and humbly reason on facts. Dont hesitate to ask questions, even those hard ones you have been told not to, as long as you aim at not poking fun on God or belittle other people along with their beliefs.

If you have read the Bible you would have came with different conclusion unless you say The Bible is corrupted. Christians came with the conclusion that Jesus is God not by wishing but stated facts all over the Bible.

Jesus was never created by anyone,the Bible states he was there before creation.

Lets just see this word from Jesus himself from John 17:5

"Now, Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world existed."

Here this was Jesus prayer after his work is finished here on Earth.I wont deal with every word i will just deal with the fact he said he had the glory with the The Father before the world existed.Now let us ask ourselves if he was before the world was created who was he then?an angel?because we all know that If he was a man he must have been created after the World was created.
Also we can't speculate he was an Angel because there is more comparison of Jesus to Man more than to angel.Beside there is nothing which says he is an angelic being. Biblically there are so much eveidence showing he is God.So before thinking otherwise ask yourself if you believe in The Bible if not then there is no way to prove it to you because everything we know about him we first read it in his Word.

 

[TUJITEGEMEE]

Is it out of ignorance?

May be, in the ignorance. Kingereza taabu tupu!

 

[GentleGiant]

Kama yesu ni Mungu. Kwanini alipokua duniani alikua anamwomba Mungu tena amwepushe na mateso.

Study this part of scripture then please share with me what you think

5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.6 Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being.When he appeared in human form he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
(Philipians 2 :5 -8)

Jesus never existed...the bible was brought to us by the babylonians (the catholics).
It is understood perfectly by the freemasons..
What is known to be Jesus is Tamuz, and the Father is Nimrod and Semiramis as the mother of Jesus.
You don't have to trust the bible, it is full of masonic symbolism..
You are a sovereign ruler, you don't need to worship any deity

So you say i don't have to trust The Bible but it is okay to Trust what Freemason say..and why exactly?

 

[GentleGiant]

I don't understand, a lot of contradictions, Jesus as God at the same time as human being. That's why I always doubt about Christianity.

Why ? Do you think it is impossible for God to walk among men as a man?

 

[GentleGiant]

That's why many believers can't explain the Trinity bcz its fubrication, .....when Jesus was asked by his follower what's the greatest commandment. ... He repeated the words of Moses in the old testament ---Hear O Isreal, our lord our God is ONE........trinity not only contradicts with the bible and words of Jesus but also contradicts with human common sense how can 1+1+1=1 its a sort of madness.

Wow,if you read the Bible you would understood this.Christians never said that there are three Gods.Even Trinity never said there are three Gods.There is only one God with three Persons. God the Father,God the Son (Jesus) and The Holy Spirit.
Let us look at this scripture during creation

God said, “Let’s make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Genesis 1 :26

When God said LET'S it shows there were more than one Person around who was involved in the creation.In the Bible there are evidences showing that Jesus was there and The Holy Spirit was there during creation.But i will leave this question to you.Who was God talking to or with during creation?

Jesus is God(There are a lot of evidence of that in the Bible)
God the Father -there are a lot of eveidence from the Bible to show that.
God The Holy Spirit a lot of mentions in the Bible check Acts 5:3-4(For beginners but for experts i would have used more advanced scripture references)

 

[lloyd996]

If being God is simple Adam would be the first God before Jesus bcz for him he had no Father nor Mother........those who worship Jesus and his mother Mary should think twice.

Adam dragged us into seen while Jesus dragged out of sin. Know the difference. Well for the case of Marry according to bible he was just the shadow of True Marry who is the church( refer to bible to know what a woman refers).

 

[lloyd996]

Jesus never existed...the bible was brought to us by the babylonians (the catholics).
It is understood perfectly by the freemasons..
What is known to be Jesus is Tamuz, and the Father is Nimrod and Semiramis as the mother of Jesus.
You don't have to trust the bible, it is full of masonic symbolism..
You are a sovereign ruler, you don't need to worship any deity

Why should I not trust the holy book that only teaches good deeds of human. Have you even read it?