I seek guidance please: Is Jesus 100% God or 100% Man?

I seek guidance please: Is Jesus 100% God or 100% Man?

olando da costa said:
You are wrong brother, when you read John 1:1 it says " in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
John 1:14 says " the word became flesh and dwelt among us.
So when you say Jesus cant be God you are totally wrong
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Bro am not the one saying its the bible before quoting me new versee refute the one I put first.....or you don't recognise the biblical verses, how can you reconcile this contradiction below:.
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mulwanaka said:
Matthew 1: 21
"She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins".........who's words are those? If Jesus was the real God was he referring to him self?
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wewe unatumia akili zako vizuri sana, Mungu akuongoze zaidi ili uuone na kuujua UKWELI. Usikubali tu kijinga kwa kuambiwa na watu " Jesus is God" halafu unaamini tu. Ukitumia akili tu haiwezekani. Mungu gani anazaliwa? alipokuwa tumboni nani aliendesha dunia? Mungu gani anakula chakula na kwenda chooni? Mungu gani anakamatwa na kusulubiwa na watu aliowaoumba mwenyewe?, ina maana Mungu kazidiwa nguvu na aliowaumba? JESUS IS NEVER GOD, HE IS HUMAN 100%
 
zebri said:
wewe unatumia akili zako vizuri sana, Mungu akuongoze zaidi ili uuone na kuujua UKWELI. Usikubali tu kijinga kwa kuambiwa na watu " Jesus is God" halafu unaamini tu. Ukitumia akili tu haiwezekani. Mungu gani anazaliwa? alipokuwa tumboni nani aliendesha dunia? Mungu gani anakula chakula na kwenda chooni? Mungu gani anakamatwa na kusulubiwa na watu aliowaoumba mwenyewe?, ina maana Mungu kazidiwa nguvu na aliowaumba? JESUS IS NEVER GOD, HE IS HUMAN 100%
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Wewe humjui Yesu. Nikuulize swali unajua Yesu alikuwepo kabla ya kuzaliwa na Maria?
 
mulwanaka said:
what do you have you to say on this incidence?

One story about Jesus in the bible that is confusing and incoherent is the story of the fig tree. Matthew 21:18-19 states, "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."

1. Jesus was hungry (God hungry?)

2. He cursed the fig tree because it wasn't bearing fruit.
A).God didn't know the tree didn't have fruit
B). He cursed a perfectly good tree that was only conforming to its nature to bear fruit in the season God designed it to.

3. The Human nature of Jesus overrode his divine nature and cursed the tree.

For me 3 is an incredibly huge problem. His "divine" nature did not stop his human nature from curse.
Nb
Plz avoid your emotions while answering and reasoning this out. plz.
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He is 100% God who chose to come to us in our likeness(the same flesh as ours) just like he chose to reavel himself in the sight of Moses in form of fire in the bush. Just like he reaveled himself in form of a Dove etc. That was just his purposeful mission aiming at revealing himself evidently before us. And when the mission was over he then turned himself to his original form of existence through his ascension. Now talking about the fig tree,that was a very clear practical lesson to his disciples who were around him by the moment so that they should know that God is mainly and strictly concerned with the fruits of salvation in their personal lives. Not leaves,not branches,not steam,not roots but FRUITS OF SALVATION and that if you say you are in Jesus Christ then you have a task to ensure that you bear fruits of salvation for God's glory,otherwise,you shall be withered just like that fig tree. Being in Christ Jesus is one thing but bearing fruits for him is another different thing. Jesus recognizes and appreciates us by fruits and not by a "christian label"
 
StudentTeacher said:
He is 100% God who chose to come to us in our likeness(the same flesh as ours) just like he chose to reavel himself in the sight of Moses in form of fire in the bush. Just like he reaveled himself in form of a Dove etc. That was just his purposeful mission aiming at revealing himself evidently before us. And when the mission was over he then turned himself to his original form of existence through his ascension. Now talking about the fig tree,that was a very clear practical lesson to his disciples who were around him by the moment so that they should know that God is mainly and strictly concerned with the fruits of salvation in their personal lives. Not leaves,not branches,not steam,not roots but FRUITS OF SALVATION and that if you say you are in Jesus Christ then you have a task to ensure that you bear fruits of salvation for God's glory,otherwise,you shall be withered just like that fig tree. Being in Christ Jesus is one thing but bearing fruits for him is another different thing. Jesus recognizes and appreciates us by fruits and not by a "christian label"
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What ever you wrote is mere rhotorics that you were given to crame by your handlers with no evidance to substantiate them,........if its not parrotwork, ok now bring biblical quotation to support your cramwork.
 
mulwanaka said:
What ever you wrote is mere rhotorics that you were given to crame by your handlers with no evidance to substantiate them,........if its not parrotwork, ok now bring biblical quotation to support your cramwork.
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In case you don't know the fact is,I,personally chose to follow
"a practical Jesus" rather than
"a hearsay Jesus" and that he evidently reveals himself in variety of spheres of my personal lifetime.So about Jesus I talk what I see and not what I hear. If you have some rigidity in trusting his truth then I have no way to help you get out of that track that you willingly chose to abide. Just keep it up!
 
StudentTeacher said:
In case you don't know the fact is,I,personally chose to follow
"a practical Jesus" rather than
"a hearsay Jesus" and that he evidently reveals himself in variety of spheres of my personal lifetime.So about Jesus I talk what I see and not what I hear. If you have some rigidity in trusting his truth then I have no way to help you get out of that track that you willingly chose to abide. Just keep it up!
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Religious fanatism and dogmatism has no place in the modern world, so my brother you learn to produce evudance in whatso ever you believe, to avoid be called religious mad man.
 
StudentTeacher said:
In case you don't know the fact is,I,personally chose to follow
"a practical Jesus" rather than
"a hearsay Jesus" and that he evidently reveals himself in variety of spheres of my personal lifetime.So about Jesus I talk what I see and not what I hear. If you have some rigidity in trusting his truth then I have no way to help you get out of that track that you willingly chose to abide. Just keep it up!
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SIMPLE REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD. AND CANT BE GOD

1- God Doesn’t Change His Nature (Malachi 3:6)

2- GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus. (John 14:28 )

3- No one is "Good" including Jesus. Only GOD is" Good" (Luke 18:19)

4- Jesus said he doesn't know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Knows. (Mark 13:32)

5- Jesus said that" OUR God is One GOD " (Mark 12:29 )

6- Jesus also said "My GOD and your GOD" (John 20:17)

7- Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty. (Matthew 26:39)

8- Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days(Mat1:4), while GOD Almighty can not be tempted (Jacob 1:13)

9- Jesus said he is a man (John 8:40)

10- God is neither a man nor a son of a man (Numbers 23:19)

11- No one can see God (1 John 4:20) but people saw Jesus

12- God is the living and everlasting (Habakkuk 1:12)

13- Jesus always confessed he is just a prophet sent by God (Matthew 21:10-11)

14- God Declare Himself to be God, Jesus didn't (Ezekiel 20:20)

15- Jesus told his real mission was to preach not sacrifice (Mark 1:38)

16- Jesus desired Mercy not Sacrifice (Matthew 9:13)

[emoji117] Jesus refered himself as

17. servant Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16

18- Jesus a Prophet:
Matthew 8:20 13:16,21:11, Mark 6:15, 6;4, 9;37, Luke 7:16, 9:8, 9:19, John 13:17, 7:16, 6:14, 7:40

19- Son of Man:
Matthew 5:9, 17:22, 8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke 9:22, John 5:27

20- Slave:
John 13:16, Matthew 10:24

21- Student:
Matthew 10:24
22- Father is Greater than Jesus (John 14:28) How can someone can be greater than God?

23- Jesus was taught by the Father (John 8:28)

24- Jesus can do nothing by himself (John 5:19, John 5:30)

25- Jesus does not even has his own doctrine (John 7:16)

26- Jesus ascend to his God (John 20:17)
27- According to Christian Jesus died as recorded in Matthew 27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Pslam 102:27-27

28- Jesus needed to Pray, Eat, Drink and Was Helped by Woman, as stated in Luke 8:1-3 but God in Bible is self-sufficient Psalm 50:12

29- The God remain the same in nature (Hebrews 1:12)

30- Jesus is the same human today, yesterday and forver (Hebrew 13:8)

31- Jesus could not save anyone as he was even not able to save himself (Hebrews 5:1-8)

32- Jesus said he was send to lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24)

33- God can not be born and perhaps form his own creation

34- Jesus never said people to worship me

35- Jesus did not thaught Trinity

36- God is the essence of the worship. He is the object of worship. Had Jesus been God, he would have told people to worship him. Truly, he did the exact opposite as in Matthew 15:9

37- Jesus never called his followers Christians, Paul did
38- Jesus as a servant ofGod (Matthew 12:18)
 
mulwanaka said:
SIMPLE REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD. AND CANT BE GOD

1- God Doesn’t Change His Nature (Malachi 3:6)

2- GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus. (John 14:28 )

3- No one is "Good" including Jesus. Only GOD is" Good" (Luke 18:19)

4- Jesus said he doesn't know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Knows. (Mark 13:32)

5- Jesus said that" OUR God is One GOD " (Mark 12:29 )

6- Jesus also said "My GOD and your GOD" (John 20:17)

7- Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty. (Matthew 26:39)

8- Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days(Mat1:4), while GOD Almighty can not be tempted (Jacob 1:13)

9- Jesus said he is a man (John 8:40)

10- God is neither a man nor a son of a man (Numbers 23:19)

11- No one can see God (1 John 4:20) but people saw Jesus

12- God is the living and everlasting (Habakkuk 1:12)

13- Jesus always confessed he is just a prophet sent by God (Matthew 21:10-11)

14- God Declare Himself to be God, Jesus didn't (Ezekiel 20:20)

15- Jesus told his real mission was to preach not sacrifice (Mark 1:38)

16- Jesus desired Mercy not Sacrifice (Matthew 9:13)

[emoji117] Jesus refered himself as

17. servant Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16

18- Jesus a Prophet:
Matthew 8:20 13:16,21:11, Mark 6:15, 6;4, 9;37, Luke 7:16, 9:8, 9:19, John 13:17, 7:16, 6:14, 7:40

19- Son of Man:
Matthew 5:9, 17:22, 8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke 9:22, John 5:27

20- Slave:
John 13:16, Matthew 10:24

21- Student:
Matthew 10:24
22- Father is Greater than Jesus (John 14:28) How can someone can be greater than God?

23- Jesus was taught by the Father (John 8:28)

24- Jesus can do nothing by himself (John 5:19, John 5:30)

25- Jesus does not even has his own doctrine (John 7:16)

26- Jesus ascend to his God (John 20:17)
27- According to Christian Jesus died as recorded in Matthew 27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Pslam 102:27-27

28- Jesus needed to Pray, Eat, Drink and Was Helped by Woman, as stated in Luke 8:1-3 but God in Bible is self-sufficient Psalm 50:12

29- The God remain the same in nature (Hebrews 1:12)

30- Jesus is the same human today, yesterday and forver (Hebrew 13:8)

31- Jesus could not save anyone as he was even not able to save himself (Hebrews 5:1-8)

32- Jesus said he was send to lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24)

33- God can not be born and perhaps form his own creation

34- Jesus never said people to worship me

35- Jesus did not thaught Trinity

36- God is the essence of the worship. He is the object of worship. Had Jesus been God, he would have told people to worship him. Truly, he did the exact opposite as in Matthew 15:9

37- Jesus never called his followers Christians, Paul did
38- Jesus as a servant ofGod (Matthew 12:18)
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You can't change that. It is so. To believe or not to believe is all about your choice.
 
mulwanaka said:
This is acontradiction but you are not interested to correct it, let me summerize my submission with this quotation that shows Jesus can't be God or any partner to God.View attachment 2007715
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you're Contradicting Yourself as the bible says God is not the author of contradictions/confusion 1 Corinthians 14:33 now to contradict you effectively I will be putting also the verses you quote above with another verse
1. Numbers 23:19
“God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent.
Has He said, and will He not do?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?"
-I agree with you God can not be born, he can not be man or son of Man God is a spirit,But what do you think stephen was calling to when he was about to die??? here
1. Acts 7:59
And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” why Stephen call God Lord Jesus?? was he referring to the man Jesus son of merry or was referring TO THE GOD ALMIGHTY??? did the bible lie here???

2. Malach 3:6
"For I am the Lord, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob"
-It's True God doesn't change but in the book of Numbers 14, Exodus 32:14, Amos 7:3, Amos 7:6, it appears that God changed his mind how can you explain this??

3. Timothy 6:16/John 1:18/John 5:37
God is Immortal no man has seen or can see GOD!

-If that is the case here are some people who actually saw GOD face to face!
1. JACOB
Genesis 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
2.ISAIAH
Isaiah 6:1 " In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple."

What do you say about those people in the bible who claimed to see God??

4.1kings 8:27/Mathew 23:9
-to help you out you didn't understand the language of the Bible in this verse 1Kings 8:27 read it here below as the verse is asking question and at the last gave us the answer “But will God indeed dwells on the earth? Behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain You"
Heaven-singular means one, and the Heaven -also singular two, OF HEAVENS-it is plural so it can be 3,4,5,6,............to infinity and it says no matter how many heavens are they can not contain God! if God is in Heaven where was He standing while creating the heaven and all universe?? because the bible says he created those things now from where?? don't narrow God to his creation

GOD IS EVERYWHERE He was in John the Baptist, the same time he was in Jesus, the same time he was in human Kind, the same time he was on his THRONE
Jeremiah 23:24, Proverbs 15:3,
 
May be the history of Jesus was created by the intelligent people, funny enough the world accepted the story. How possible for the Almighty God to hung his beloved one on the cross?? Some people have learnt that if you hung your first born on the cross (superstitious) you will achieve your goal in life. I mean "msukule"
 
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