Hapo Mwanzo Palikuwa Na Nini?!...science Vs divinity

[Mama]

Usibishie kitu kwa sababu ya imani.

kama vile unavyoamini nucleic acids ndio mwanzo wa maisha, je wazijua?

 

[Pundit]

Mungu yupo na hana cha kujitetea. Tuamini Mungu na tufanye mambo mema kama alivyotuamrisha Mungu. Namwamini Mungu yupo na sina haja ya kuhoji uwepo wake kwa dalili zote zilizopo duniani kuashiria uwezo wake.

Kam huamini Mungu huwezi ha kuamini sayansi.

Kwa hiyo wewe unamwamini mungu ili ufanye mambo mema? Huwezi kufanya mema bila boost psychology ya mungu?

Sayansi haina kuamini, kwenye sayansi unajua au hujui.Ukileta imani kwenye sayansi utachekesha.

 

[Pundit]

kama vile unavyoamini nucleic acids ndio mwanzo wa maisha, je wazijua?

Nucleic acids si imani, ni vitu vinavyoweza kufanyiwa experiment kwenye maabara, zinajulikana.Hakuna imani, ni knowledge.

Kwa mungu hamna knowledge, ni imani.

 

[Mama]

Kwa hiyo wewe unamwamini mungu ili ufanye mambo mema? Huwezi kufanya mema bila boost psychology ya mungu?

Namwamini Mungu ndio amenileta hapa duniani, ananifanya niwepo na akitaka ataniondoa. Mambo mema ni part and parcel ya kuamini. Ukijiona unafanya mambo mabaya ujue huamini, na kama huamini utatenda baadhi tu ya mambo mema, mema mengine hutayatenda na mwisho ni kupata adhabu kali pale utakapokuatana na Mungu ana kwa ana, akaueleza ukweli na wewe ukamuona na kuamini kuwa hupo, it would be too late for anaything, wala sayansi yako haitakusaidia.

 

[Mama]

Nucleic acids si imani, ni vitu vinavyoweza kufanyiwa experiment kwenye maabara, zinajulikana.Hakuna imani, ni knowledge.

Kwa mungu hamna knowledge, ni imani.

na nucleic acid ni imani tu, kwa vile hizo nazo zina chanzo chake ambacho ni Mungu, Nucleic acids bila kuwepo haziwezi kuwa isolated in the gels.

 

[Pundit]

Namwamini Mungu ndio amenileta hapa duniani, ananifanya niwepo na akitaka ataniondoa. Mambo mema ni part and parcel ya kuamini. Ukijiona unafanya mambo mabaya ujue huamini, na kama huamini utatenda baadhi tu ya mambo mema, mema mengine hutayatenda na mwisho ni kupata adhabu kali pale utakapokuatana na Mungu ana kwa ana, akaueleza ukweli na wewe ukamuona na kuamini kuwa hupo, it would be too late for anaything, wala sayansi yako haitakusaidia.

Na hao mafisadi wanaojaa makanisani kila siku? Kina Mkapa altar boy, wanaamini au hawaamini?

 

[Steve Dii]

Kwa hiyo wewe unamwamini mungu ili ufanye mambo mema? Huwezi kufanya mema bila boost psychology ya mungu?

Sayansi haina kuamini, kwenye sayansi unajua au hujui.Ukileta imani kwenye sayansi utachekesha.

Why then these words "we believe" are ubiquitous in science books/journals?! Please don't tell me you haven't encountered them!

 

[Mama]

Na hao mafisadi wanaojaa makanisani kila siku? Kina Mkapa altar boy, wanaamini au hawaamini?

hao si mafisadi tu ni mafisadi squared kwa vile ni wanafiki.

 

[Pundit]

Kama unaamini mungu wa Judeo-Christian doctrine pia utaamini mungu anajua yote, yaliyopita na yajayo.

Kama unaamini mungu wa Judeo-Christian doctrine utaamini pia kuwa mungu ana perfect knowledge, maana yake anachojua yeye si projection au weather forecast, maana yake akijua kitakuwa kitakuwa.

Sasa kama anajua kitakachokuwa kabla sisi hatujafanya, na kama akishajua kitakuwa sisi hatuwezi kubadilisha.Tukifanya mabaya maana yake ni kuwa yeye alijua tangu mwanzo kwamba tutafanya mabaya, na kwa sababu alijua sisi hatukuwa na njia ya kubadilisha (kubadilisha kutakuwa sawa na kum prove yeye wrong)

Either mungu anajua yote na sisi hatuna uchaguzi.

Au

Sisi tuna uchaguzi, lakini mungu hajui yote.

Which is the case now?

 

[Mama]

Why then these words "we believe" are ubiquitous in science books/journals?! Please don't tell me you haven't encountered them!

Science is the belief also, no scientist who knows the origin of matter in science.

 

[Kuhani]

Why then these words "we believe" are ubiquitous in science books/journals?! Please don't tell me you haven't encountered them!

Karibu sana mtumishi wa Bwana. Mama anajitahidi sana hapa, na hakika Mungu anahitaji utetezi zaidi.

Neno "we believe" linavyotumika katika Sayansi maana yake ni hii: tunacho kijua mpaka sekunde hii ni hiki na kile na hiki. Kesho ukija na ujuzi mwingine uka disprove huu wa leo basi tutatupilia mbali tunacho dhani tunakijua leo.

Hiyo ndio essence ya Sayansi. Hatusemi tuna infinite knowledge au immutable knowlegde isiyo badilika kama imani kwa Mwenyezi Mungu.

 

[Mama]

Kama unaamini mungu wa Judeo-Christian doctrine pia utaamini mungu anajua yote, yaliyopita na yajayo.

Kama unaamini mungu wa Judeo-Christian doctrine utaamini pia kuwa mungu ana perfect knowledge, maana yake anachojua yeye si projection au weather forecast, maana yake akijua kitakuwa kitakuwa.

Sasa kama anajua kitakachokuwa kabla sisi hatujafanya, na kama akishajua kitakuwa sisi hatuwezi kubadilisha.Tukifanya mabaya maana yake ni kuwa yeye alijua tangu mwanzo kwamba tutafanya mabaya, na kwa sababu alijua sisi hatukuwa na njia ya kubadilisha (kubadilisha kutakuwa sawa na kum prove yeye wrong)

Either mungu anajua yote na sisi hatuna uchaguzi.

Au

Sisi tuna uchaguzi, lakini mungu hajui yote.

Which is the case now?

Mungu anajua yote na sisi ametuacha huru kufanya uchaguzi, akipenda anaweza kukuongoza uende kwenye mazuri; hapo ni pale unaposali na kumuomba akusaidie kukuongoza katika kufanya mazuri.

 

[Mama]

Karibu sana mtumishi wa Bwana. Mama anajitahidi sana hapa, na hakika Mungu anahitaji utetezi zaidi.

Neno "we believe" linavyotumika katika Sayansi maana yake ni hii: tunacho kijua mpaka sekunde hii ni hiki na kile na hiki. Kesho ukija na ujuzi mwingine uka disprove huu wa leo basi tutatupilia mbali tunacho dhani tunakijua leo.

Hiyo ndio essence ya Sayansi. Hatusemi tuna infinite knowledge au immutable knowlegde isiyo badilika kama imani kwa Mwenyezi Mungu.

unaweza kujua ya kesho kwa kufanya modelling na kuproject mambo kibao, ingawa si yote. Hapo ndipo unapokuja upungufu wa sayansi.

 

[Pundit]

Why then these words "we believe" are ubiquitous in science books/journals?! Please don't tell me you haven't encountered them!

Mwanasayansi yeyote akikwambia "I believe" maana yake hana uhakika.Sayansi haina majibu ya kila kitu kwa hiyo kwenye mambo mengine ambayo watu wanafanya utafiti watu hawajapata majibu na wanafanya uchunguzi watu wako frank wanasema hiki hakijapitishwa kisayansi lakini I believe itakuwa hivi na hivi (Cheki bet ya Stephens Hawkins na Kip Thorne ya back in the eighties)

Lakini huwezi kumkuta mwanasayansi anakwambia "I believe in the second law of Thermodynamics" au "I believe in The newtonian Laws of Motion"

These are some of the fundamentals of science, scientists do not "believe" in the fundamentals of science, that is the reign of philosophy and divinity.

On the other hand religion does not know its fundamentals, it ask people to take them at face value by "faith"

This is my beef,I want to know for sure.I do not want to believe.Even a scientific speculation such as string theory is not appealing to me because it is not testable and in that aspect more philosophic than scientific.

 

[Kuhani]

kama vile unavyoamini nucleic acids ndio mwanzo wa maisha, je wazijua?

Nazijua. Nimewahi kuziona kwenye test tube chini ya darubini.

 

[Mama]

Nazijua. Nimewahi kuziona kwenye test tube chini ya darubini.

nini hizi, nucleic acids? unaziona kwenye darubini gani, epifluorescence au? mimi huwa nazidetect to na ninachoona ni dalili kuwa nucleic acids zipo, lakini sio kuziona live. Mwenzangu wewe una bahati.

 

[Pundit]

unaweza kujua ya kesho kwa kufanya modelling na kuproject mambo kibao, ingawa si yote. Hapo ndipo unapokuja upungufu wa sayansi.

Upungufu gani?

Knowledge ya mungu inatakiwa kuwa perfect, si projection wala forescasting.Kama leo ninaua mtu basi mungu alishajua kuwa nitaua tangu sijazaliwa.

Sasa kama alijua, na kama alichokijua yeye hakiepukiki (kwa sababu anachojua ni perfect na kukiepuka ni kama vile kum prove wrong kwamba alijua hivi na wewe ukafanya vingine) je mimi nina makosa?

Je binadamu ana uchaguzi?

Binadamu akiwa na uchaguzi wa mema na mabaya maanayake mungu hajui nini tutafanya, mungu akijua nini tutafanya binadamu hana uchaguzi.

Which is the case?

 

[Mama]

Mwanasayansi yeyote akikwambia "I believe" maana yake hana uhakika.Sayansi haina majibu ya kila kitu kwa hiyo kwenye mambo mengine ambayo watu wanafanya utafiti watu hawajapata majibu na wanafanya uchunguzi watu wako frank wanasema hiki hakijapitishwa kisayansi lakini I believe itakuwa hivi na hivi (Cheki bet ya Stephens Hawkins na Kip Thorne ya back in the eighties)

Lakini huwezi kumkuta mwanasayansi anakwambia "I believe in the second law of Thermodynamics" au "I believe in The newtonian Laws of Motion"

These are some of the fundamentals of science, scientists do not "believe" in the fundamentals of science, that is the reign of philosophy and divinity.

On the other hand religion does not know its fundamentals, it ask people to take them at face value by "faith"

This is my beef,I want to know for sure.I do not want to believe.Even a scientific speculation such as string theory is not appealing to me because it is not testable and in that aspect more philosophic than scientific.

kama hana uhakika inamaanisha hajui, na anaamini kitu asicho kijua. Hivyo kama umeweza kuwa na kaimani kidogo kwa sayansi ambayo nayo haina uhakika ndani yake, Muamini Mungu.

 

[Kuhani]

Pundit naona tuna tundika back to back ngoma zinafanana almost neno kwa neno mtu wangu. At least Wanasayansi tuna sauti moja.

Kwenye imani kuna wa Shia, Katoliki, Suni, Assemblies of God, Baniani, Anglican, Mujaheeden, Lutheran, Buddha, Confusionism, Mormons, Hindu.....................

 

[Mama]

Upungufu gani?

Knowledge ya mungu inatakiwa kuwa perfect, si projection wala forescasting.Kama leo ninaua mtu basi mungu alishajua kuwa nitaua tangu sijazaliwa.

Sasa kama alijua, na kama alichokijua yeye hakiepukiki (kwa sababu anachojua ni perfect na kukiepuka ni kama vile kum prove wrong kwamba alijua hivi na wewe ukafanya vingine) je mimi nina makosa?

Je binadamu ana uchaguzi?

Binadamu akiwa na uchaguzi wa mema na mabaya maanayake mungu hajui nini tutafanya, mungu akijua nini tutafanya binadamu hana uchaguzi.

Which is the case?

Mungu hajakupangia uue, na amekuambia usiue, na ukia umekiuka mafundisho ya Mungu. Amekupa utashi wa kutambua zuri na baya, kwa nini huisumbui akili yako katika kuchagua kufanya zuri na baya kuyaacha? vitu vingine tunafanya na kumsingizia Mungu kuwa ni mapenzi na mipango yake ili kufulfill weakness zetu. All in all Mungu yupo.