Unitaliki nimekuwa mkeo? he he he. Kuwa na heshima extremist hutu. Najua porini mnaishi na nyani kwa hiyo hamfundishwi heshima ila kwa Kagame mnatia heshima. Unaleta story za uongo hapa halafu unategemea uchekewe. Nimekuuliza ni lini Twagiramungu alifungwa? Na kwa kosa gani? Jibu tukuone uongo wako hapa.
Finally: BBC speaks the truth
Finally: BBC speaks the truth
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Unitaliki nimekuwa mkeo? he he he. Kuwa na heshima extremist hutu. Najua porini mnaishi na nyani kwa hiyo hamfundishwi heshima ila kwa Kagame mnatia heshima. Unaleta story za uongo hapa halafu unategemea uchekewe. Nimekuuliza ni lini Twagiramungu alifungwa? Na kwa kosa gani? Jibu tukuone uongo wako hapa.
Happy Feet
Hivi wewe ----- bado unanifuata tuu?unajifanya neutral kumbe tofauti yako na jmali ni majina tuu,i feel sorry for commanche maana anajaribu to reason na bogus kama wewe mimi huo muda mchafu sina,Kagame hana muda na ------ kama wewe na wenzako na wala hakosi usingizi,Rwanda is moving ahead for better na wewe endelea na useless stupid political analysis kujaza page za JF.
Hivi wewe ----- bado unanifuata tuu?unajifanya neutral kumbe tofauti yako na jmali ni majina tuu,i feel sorry for commanche maana anajaribu to reason na bogus kama wewe mimi huo muda mchafu sina,Kagame hana muda na ------ kama wewe na wenzako na wala hakosi usingizi,Rwanda is moving ahead for better na wewe endelea na useless stupid political analysis kujaza page za JF.
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In Rwanda there is a lot of tolerance among the populace. Ordinary people just want to be left alone. They just want security, peace, prosperity. They care about education, health care, job opportunities and a better future for their families. And this transcends ethnicities i.e. hutu, tutsi, twa and mixed people. The truth of the matter is only a few detractors want to paint a picture of a people totally subjugated in the hands of a supposed tyrannical leader in Kagame - which in reality is not the case because the man won both elections by over 90% of the total tally. They want us to believe the words of defectors like Kayumba. Where in this World has any sane mind paid attention to exiles? If you are a peace loving Rwandan living in that country you have nothing to fear. Kigali is the only city in sub-Saharan Africa where you find people jogging at 2 a.m without a care. So had it been so reclusive and oppressive, where would people feel the comfort of doing such mundane things like that? FDLR are numbering at less than 4,000 whereas there are over 11 million Rwandese most of whom are hutu. Why aren't hutu in Rwanda supporting FDLR? It is because they don't buy into the hateful policies of that genocidal terrorist organization. Time and again Kagame has offered amnesty to any FDLR including their leaders to renounce their hateful ideology, repent, return home and rejoin society. Many former FDLR have seen the light and have gone back and are now rebuilding Rwanda together. Only a few are left in the forests of the Congo because they have blood on their hands and still wish to topple Kagame. These cannot and will not be tolerated. "
In Rwanda there is a lot of tolerance among the populace. Ordinary people just want to be left alone. They just want security, peace, prosperity. They care about education, health care, job opportunities and a better future for their families. And this transcends ethnicities i.e. hutu, tutsi, twa and mixed people. The truth of the matter is only a few detractors want to paint a picture of a people totally subjugated in the hands of a supposed tyrannical leader in Kagame - which in reality is not the case because the man won both elections by over 90% of the total tally. They want us to believe the words of defectors like Kayumba. Where in this World has any sane mind paid attention to exiles? If you are a peace loving Rwandan living in that country you have nothing to fear. Kigali is the only city in sub-Saharan Africa where you find people jogging at 2 a.m without a care. So had it been so reclusive and oppressive, where would people feel the comfort of doing such mundane things like that? FDLR are numbering at less than 4,000 whereas there are over 11 million Rwandese most of whom are hutu. Why aren't hutu in Rwanda supporting FDLR? It is because they don't buy into the hateful policies of that genocidal terrorist organization. Time and again Kagame has offered amnesty to any FDLR including their leaders to renounce their hateful ideology, repent, return home and rejoin society. Many former FDLR have seen the light and have gone back and are now rebuilding Rwanda together. Only a few are left in the forests of the Congo because they have blood on their hands and still wish to topple Kagame. These cannot and will not be tolerated. "
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Ndivyo ilivyo kote duniani isipokuwa siasa ndio zinaleta mambo ambayo yasiyo ya lazima sasa wewe uoni sababu ya wanao ama wajukuu wako kuwekewea priorities hizo kwanza na insurance ya misingi ya kisiasa yenye demokrasia hata Kagame akiondoka madarakani kwa namna yeyote na raisi ajaye awe mhutu au mtutsi priority za walio wengi zibaki vilevile, kama kupinduana wafanye kama Nigeria tu unamtoa raisi madarakani jeshi lina ku-support the people are unharmed. Au tu kuwe na misingi imara yakupokezana kijiti.
I for once sincerely believed Kagame needed time to rebuild the nation that was logical lakini vilevile in that time Hutu's need to trust him and Rwandan in general should have a consensus on who is there common enemy kama ukiniuliza mimi sio kikundi cha mtu au mtu bali what they represent in relation to democracy and divisive ideologies.
Mimi binafsi siwezi waunga mkono kwa namna yeyote hiki kikundi kwa ustawi wa jamii alikadhalika ningependa kuona Kagame nurtures a more sophisticated democracy while he is still in office. I am also realistic it takes time but that wont happen if he fails to win trust among the closet members of his government. Kama ata wale uliokuwa nao pamoja no longer see eye to eye with his aims. How are you supposed to win the trust of the nation through democratic persuasions?
Hata kwenye hiyo video ya BBC yule dada alii kwa sababu ya watutsi si watu wazuri, wala akatai Hutus awakushiriki kuua kwa sababu yeye mwenyewe alificha watoto wa majirani zake waliouliwa those are the thinking of ordinary Rwandans. Machozi yake ni kwa sababu ya Tutsi militia, na walichofanya. Ndio maana kuna kila sababu ya ku-win over people and assure people those days are done including RPF today is not the same as the one they knew sijui kama unanielewa, more has to be done to remove past understanding and reasoning in order to move forward if not RPF will always be seen as the challenger of FDLR in leadership struggles and not for the right reasons.
Waangalie hao wenzenu hapo kuna kila aina ya kabila na dini. Na asikwambie mtu si kwamba wote wanakubaliana kila kitu lakini purpose of their existence keep them together and differences are overruled by purpose of their existence. Can RPF claim those credentials today? If not, what are the reasons.
Ukweli autaki kupuuzwa Kagame anao uwezo wa kuifanyia Rwanda hivyo hili Wanyarwanda wamuone common enemy ni mtu ambae anataka kuwaletea ethnicity divisions Rwanda should come first over tribe.
Usijali hawa watu wa dini ata kwetu wanaoanza chokochoko watashindwa tu I have huge trust na wanasiasa vijana wanaochipukia si hawa wanaokimbilia makanisani na misikitini kutafuta kura halafu ndio wa kwanza kulalamika udini wakati mmeanzisha wenyewe.
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Usione aibu kusema wewe Mnyarwanda na mtusi ujajifunza tu mbona watanzania awaoni aibu kusema kwao na makabila yao. Mpaka ukifikia level hiyo ndio utaelewa hoja za mtu kama mimi.
Haya swali kwako Kwenyu wapi?
Niwe tutsi,hutu,mbongo, Rwandese or American haikuhusu and why are you in my personal business?
Eric Cartman
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Kusidi next time usichoche watu jukwaa la siasa kwenye siasa ambazo zinaweza kutugawa huku ukijifanya mwenzetu wakati huna nia njema na Tanzania at heart.
Eric Cartman
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It is not me who needs the convincing mate, its the Rwandese in ordinary work of life if FDLR is to become a common national enemy.
Have a good day, Sir.
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Ndg, Jerhy, Asante sana.
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jMali,
Kusidi next time usichoche watu jukwaa la siasa kwenye siasa ambazo zinaweza kutugawa huku ukijifanya mwenzetu wakati huna nia njema na Rwanda at heart.
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Somo la bure
This how you tell the world indirectly my people think other wise of your case against me.
There after unaacha wananchi waamue I admire this president politics on national unity and getting close to the people apparently the whole world have noted too.
What a message for those who wish to drag Kenya into the past.
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Link ya Video YouTube (Rwanda's Untold Story) BBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNF4ISJwJTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNF4ISJwJTw
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jMali anakupa "like" lakini "haoni kundule"
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Eric Cartman
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I have no doubt ni Mtanzania mzalendo kabisa.
murutongore
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The way i have no doubt that the sun rises in the west.
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First you got to change the spin of the earth, some things are caused by effects of the other same way loyalty defines a character.
If only ya'll could pledge ya loyalty to the nation instead of a person, for the long term stability of the nation and fight that common enemy together.
Waandamanaji walibeba mabango ya kulaani matangazo ya BBC
Bunge nchini Rwanda limepiga kura ya kupiga marufuku BBC nchini humo, kufuatia kipindi maalum cha Televisheni kilichoitwa ''Untold story'' kuhusu mauaji ya kimbari ya mwaka 1994 kilichopeperushwa na BBC.
Kipindi hicho kilihoji uhusika wa baadhi ya maafisa wakuu serikalini juu ya yale yaliyotokea wakati wa mauaji ya kimbari.
Bunge hilo linataka hatua kali kuchukuliwa dhidi ya BBC kwa kupeperusha kipindi hicho ambacho wanasema kinahujumu mauaji ya Kimbari na pia kukana mauaji dhidi ya watutsi.
Wabunge wa Rwanda wamekosoa BBC kufuatia kipindi chake kuhusu mauaji ya kimbari ya 1994
Kipindi hicho kiliwahusisha wataalamu wawili wa Marekani waliohoji maelezo kuhusu mauaji ya kimbare mwaka 1994 ambayo umoja wa Mataifa unasema kuwa watu 800,000 wengi wao watutsi na wahutu wenye msimamo wa kadri waliuawa kinyama.
Hapo jana maandamano yalifanyika mjini Kigali dhidi ya BBC kwa mujibu wa mwandishi wa BBC Prudent Nsengiyumva mjini Kigali.
Katika kikao kilichodumu siku nzima, wabunge pamoja na maseneta walijadili kuhusu kipindi hicho,''Rwanda's Untold Story''
Kilipeperushwa tarehe 1 mwezi huu wa Oktoba na moja ya vituo vya BBC. Wabunge hao walitoa wito wa kusitisha matangazo ya BBC nchini Rwanda.
Wanataka serikali imchukulie hatua mtangazaji wa kipindi hicho, na wale wote waliohusika kutengeza kipindi hicho.
CHANZO: BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/swahili/habari/2014/10/141023_bunge_rwanda_kipindi
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