Dr Rioba, uelewa wako una walakini

[Stuxnet]

Mkuu
Jidu La Mabambasi, kwa heshma na taadhima, mtu unapojinasibu humu kuwa ni msomi, mhandisi halafu ukaleta hoja za ukilaza wa chekechea ni kujiabisha tuu, kumbe Jidu ni kilaza hivi!. Kwa kukusaidia tuu, Reli ya Kati sio reli ya kwanza kujengwa Tanzania, reli ya kwanza ni Reli ya Tanga ilianza kujengwa mwaka 1891 kwa feasibility study na Construction of the mwaka 1896 by mwaka 1902 ilifika Korogwe, ikafika Mombo mwaka1904 na kufika Moshi mwaka1912!. Tena tuzizungumzie Zanzibar reli ilijengwa toka mwaka 1880 to 1888!.

Mtu yoyote anayejinasibu kuwa msomi, baada ya kumsikiliza Dr. Rioba kabla ya kuja humu angejiridhisha kwanza apate uhakika ndipo aje humu na sio kukimbilia kumwaga upupu na kujiita msomi kumbe ni msomi kilaza!.

Kwa kukusaidia tuu na hawa vilaza wengine humu wanaokuunga mkono kilaza wewe
1891, the Eisenbahngesellschaft für Deutsch-Ostafrika (English: Railway Company for German East Africa) was established, with the goal of building a railway from Tanga in Tanganyika to the hinterland. For that, and subsequent, main lines in the German colony, the gauge selected was 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in) metre gauge. In addition, light railways were developed for individual Tanganyikan sisal plantations in narrower gauges, usually 600 mm (1 ft 11 5⁄8 in) gauge.

The construction of the Usambara Railway, from Tanga to the hinterland, began in 1893. However, the company building that railway went into bankruptcy after two years. At that stage, only 40 km (25 mi) of track had been completed, as far as Korogwe. The treasury of the colony then took over the project in 1899. Four years later, in 1903, it issued an Order for further construction. Subsequently, there were other attempts to operate the railway on an economically and juristically stable footing.

In 1904, the smaller railways received a boost. Meanwhile, in Germany, the Sigi-Eisenbahngesellschaft (English: Sigi Railway Company) was established, with the objective of constructing one of the narrow gauge railways branching off the Usambara Railway, the Sigi-Bahn,[1] in 750 mm (2 ft 5 1⁄2 in) gauge. The same year, 1904, the Ostafrikanische Eisenbahngesellschaft (English: East African Railway Company) (OAEG) was formed to promote a railway from Dar es Salaam in the direction of Lake Tanganyika, the Zentralbahn (English: Central Line). Kigoma was reached on 2 February 1914, on the eve of World War I.

Dr. Rioba was very right!, kitu kikifanyika miaka 1800, ni 1800s hata kama ni 1899!.
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Hapana, umetumia nguvu nyingi ku-justfy kosa la mate wako. Inafahamika wazi scramble and partition of Africa ilifanyika mwaka 1884 huko Berlin kwenye mkutano maarufu kama Berlin conference. Kuwa hiyo Mjerumani alifika Tanzania baada ya miaka 6 baadaye. Dr Rioba hakuwa makini kuweka range ya 1800s ili kuelezea tukio lililotokea mwishoni mwa karne.

 

[chase amante]

TBC, haina hadhi saivi

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[Jidu La Mabambasi]

Mkuu
Jidu La Mabambasi, kwa heshma na taadhima, mtu unapojinasibu humu kuwa ni msomi, mhandisi halafu ukaleta hoja za ukilaza wa chekechea ni kujiabisha tuu, kumbe Jidu ni kilaza hivi!. Kwa kukusaidia tuu, Reli ya Kati sio reli ya kwanza kujengwa Tanzania, reli ya kwanza ni Reli ya Tanga ilianza kujengwa mwaka 1891 kwa feasibility study na Construction of the mwaka 1896 by mwaka 1902 ilifika Korogwe, ikafika Mombo mwaka1904 na kufika Moshi mwaka1912!. Tena tuzizungumzie Zanzibar reli ilijengwa toka mwaka 1880 to 1888!.

Mtu yoyote anayejinasibu kuwa msomi, baada ya kumsikiliza Dr. Rioba kabla ya kuja humu angejiridhisha kwanza apate uhakika ndipo aje humu na sio kukimbilia kumwaga upupu na kujiita msomi kumbe ni msomi kilaza!.

Kwa kukusaidia tuu na hawa vilaza wengine humu wanaokuunga mkono kilaza wewe
1891, the Eisenbahngesellschaft für Deutsch-Ostafrika (English: Railway Company for German East Africa) was established, with the goal of building a railway from Tanga in Tanganyika to the hinterland. For that, and subsequent, main lines in the German colony, the gauge selected was 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in) metre gauge. In addition, light railways were developed for individual Tanganyikan sisal plantations in narrower gauges, usually 600 mm (1 ft 11 5⁄8 in) gauge.

The construction of the Usambara Railway, from Tanga to the hinterland, began in 1893. However, the company building that railway went into bankruptcy after two years. At that stage, only 40 km (25 mi) of track had been completed, as far as Korogwe. The treasury of the colony then took over the project in 1899. Four years later, in 1903, it issued an Order for further construction. Subsequently, there were other attempts to operate the railway on an economically and juristically stable footing.

In 1904, the smaller railways received a boost. Meanwhile, in Germany, the Sigi-Eisenbahngesellschaft (English: Sigi Railway Company) was established, with the objective of constructing one of the narrow gauge railways branching off the Usambara Railway, the Sigi-Bahn,[1] in 750 mm (2 ft 5 1⁄2 in) gauge. The same year, 1904, the Ostafrikanische Eisenbahngesellschaft (English: East African Railway Company) (OAEG) was formed to promote a railway from Dar es Salaam in the direction of Lake Tanganyika, the Zentralbahn (English: Central Line). Kigoma was reached on 2 February 1914, on the eve of World War I.

Dr. Rioba was very right!, kitu kikifanyika miaka 1800, ni 1800s hata kama ni 1899!.
P

Mkuu imebidi nitoke from my self imposed sabbatical ili ku argue the subject matter niliyo present.
Mimi niko concise , siyo mwanasiasa, simbwabwaji kama ulivyofanya katika toleo lako hili nililoliquote.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL RAILWAY, na jinsi mwenzako, presumably a "learned" Dr of some learning and knowledge, uliyesoma naye, alivyo lipresent, tena kwenye media.

That ulipitia sijui Ilboru au Makerere, nakuhakikishia kuwa kuna akina siye tulipitia better schools!
Hatutambi and our brains are still intact and we can think straight and argue to the point.

Katika kunijibu umezunguka weeee na kuishia subject matter yenyewe ambayo umequote only a parargraph ya kujibu hoja.
Halafu wajiita msomi!!!

We go straight to the point
Central Railway ilianza kujengwa na Wajerumani mwaka 1905 na kuishia Kigoma in 1914.
That is the straight fact of history, and our subject matter!
And your "learned" friend hakuipresent subect kama mtu mwenye some command of knowledge.
That is my argument.

Sasa hizo hadithi za Usambara Railway au Reli ya Tanga , Korogwe au Moshi huko nani kakuuliza!!!
You trying to impress the weak in knowledge, but to the sharp minded man, you are talking irrelevancies.
No body argued about Usambara or Tanga,Korogwe au Moshi.

Sasa kama you can make such a mistake in analytics, man you don't impress!

 

[wazunguwawili]

Naona umekabidhi ushindi kiaina. Huo ndiyo uungwana.

1999 ni miaka ya 90s.
Sioni cha ajabu sana, ila unaweza kuchukua ushindi kama unajali sana.

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[Smiling killer]

Wote hata babu zenu walikuwa hawajazaliwa,mnasoma vitabu vya history kama hadithi,inategemea pengine wewe umesoma kitabu tofauti na alichosoma Dr Rioba,watunzi tofauti,si kwamba elimu yake inamashaka

Watunzi!?kwani historia inatungwa!?

 

[Prof Griff]

Mkuu imebidi nitoke from my self imposed sabbatical ili ku argue the subject matter niliyo present.
Mimi niko concise , siyo mwanasiasa, simbwabwaji kama ulivyofanya katika toleo lako hili nililoliquote.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL RAILWAY, na jinsi mwenzako, presumably a "learned" Dr of some learning and knowledge, uliyesoma naye, alivyo lipresent, tena kwenye media.

That ulipitia sijui Ilboru au Makerere, nakuhakikishia kuwa kuna akina siye tulipitia better schools!
Hatutambi and our brains are still intact and we can think straight and argue to the point.

Katika kunijibu umezunguka weeee na kuishia subject matter yenyewe ambayo umequote only a parargraph ya kujibu hoja.
Halafu wajiita msomi!!!

We go straight to the point
Central Railway ilianza kujengwa na Wajerumani mwaka 1905 na kuishia Kigoma in 1914.
That is the straight fact of history, and our subject matter!
And your "learned" friend hakuipresent subect kama mtu mwenye some command of knowledge.
That is my argument.

Sasa hizo hadithi za Usambara Railway au Reli ya Tanga , Korogwe au Moshi huko nani kakuuliza!!!
You trying to impress the weak in knowledge, but to the sharp minded man, you are talking irrelevancies.
No body argued about Usambara or Tanga,Korogwe au Moshi.

Sasa kama you can make such a mistake in analytics, man you don't impress!

This is akin to a storm in a tea cup. So what if Rioba got his facts wrong this one time? Does that in anyway diminish his overall academic credentials or professional/intellectual reputation? After all, he's human too. You claiming to know that single fact, what have you gained from it?

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

Hapana, umetumia nguvu nyingi ku-justfy kosa la mate wako. Inafahamika wazi scramble and partition of Africa ilifanyika mwaka 1884 huko Berlin kwenye mkutano maarufu kama Berlin conference. Kuwa hiyo Mjerumani alifika Tanzania baada ya miaka 6 baadaye. Dr Rioba hakuwa makini kuweka range ya 1800s ili kuelezea tukio lililotokea mwishoni mwa karne.

Dr. Rioba is right, kitu hata kikifanyika 1899, its 1800s!.
P

 

[Kinyungu]

Wote hata babu zenu walikuwa hawajazaliwa,mnasoma vitabu vya history kama hadithi,inategemea pengine wewe umesoma kitabu tofauti na alichosoma Dr Rioba,watunzi tofauti,si kwamba elimu yake inamashaka

Ukoloni wa mjerumani ulianza 1884. Hiyo 1800 anayoisema Rioba labda kama hiyo reli walijenga babu zake wa Mara wakishirikiana na Sultan wa Zanzibar

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL RAILWAY, na jinsi mwenzako, presumably a "learned" Dr of some learning and knowledge, uliyesoma naye, alivyo lipresent, tena kwenye media.

We go straight to the point
Central Railway ilianza kujengwa na Wajerumani mwaka 1905 na kuishia Kigoma in 1914.
That is the straight fact of history, and our subject matter!
And your "learned" friend hakuipresent subect kama mtu mwenye some command of knowledge.
That is my argument.
Sasa kama you can make such a mistake in analytics, man you don't impress!

Now sasa ndio nimeelewa kumbe tunazungumza vitu viwili tofauti, Dr. Ayub yuko very right kwenye general picture ya reli nchini Tanzania ilianza kujengwa lini, its on 1800s, wewe uko very specific kwa Reli ya Kati only, kitu ambacho usichojua na naomba nichukue fursa hii kukujulisha wewe na wengine wasiojua ambao walidhani wanajua, reli inayoitwa Reli ya Kati, ni jina tuu, reli ya Tanzania ilianza kujengwa 1800s, na ilianzia Tanga, reli ya kati, ilipounganishwa, jina la reli likabaki kuitwa reli ya kati as just a name, lakini ukisema reli ya Tanzania, unamaanisha ni reli ya kati.
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[Kinyungu]

Dr. Rioba is right, kitu hata kikifanyika 1899, its 1800s!.
P

Pascal mbona mnapenda kutetea ujinga? Reli ya kati imeanza kujengwa 1905 na siyo 1800's.

 

[Mmawia]

Ma PhD holder wa lumumba wanatia kichefu chefu

Wote hata babu zenu walikuwa hawajazaliwa,mnasoma vitabu vya history kama hadithi,inategemea pengine wewe umesoma kitabu tofauti na alichosoma Dr Rioba,watunzi tofauti,si kwamba elimu yake inamashaka

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[myoyambendi]

Mkuu mtu akiwa msomi, kiwango cha Phd, na ni mwanahabari mbobezi, tena kiongozi wa chombo muhimu kama TBC, we demand nothing short of the best in academic knowledge and hence output and public performance.

 

[lwidia2k]

History ina challenge kubwa ya periodization, waandishi mda mwingine wanatofautiana kufahamu mwaka halisi wa tukio, hivyo hupelekea kupishana, mda mwingine waandishi huamua tu ku generalize miaka ya matukio, ndio unakuta miaka kama vile, 1800, first quarter, 19century, n.k

hahaa inaonekana ni mdau wa history ndio maana alitaka kutetea kwa nguvu zote, japo bado naona wanavyopishana pishana wenyewe kwa wenyewe.
Mimi nimewaachia mambo ya history sio mdau nitaishia ku-google tu.

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[Artifact Collector]

Wewe ndiyo mgumu kuelewa, ukiambiwa miaka ya 1800 waliyosoma history hupenda kuandika 1800's. Hii humaanisha kitu kinachosemwa hapo kimetokea kati ya mwaka 1800 hadi 1899.

Waliyosoma kombi zenye kuchukua somo la History kama vile HKL, HGL na nyinginezo. Hutumia 1800's kutaja mwaka kama sehemu hana uhakika ni mwaka gani hasa ingawa ilitokea kati ya 1800 na 1899. Hata muwekaji alama humpa pasipo kumkata maksi, maana yupo sahihi.

Hivyo alosema miaka ya 1800 yupo sahihi, huyo mtoa mada aliyesoma uhandisi hawezi kuelewa hilo, aulize kwanza kabla ya kukosoa.
Kama DR alimaanisha hivyo yupo sahihi, mtoa mada kakosea

Na wewe pia umekose miaka 1885 ni 1880's na 1800' ni kuanzia 1800 mpaka 1809

 

[Artifact Collector]

Kimaana ya miaka hiyo yupo sahihiView attachment 920664

Exactly

 

[Kitwa-Mulomoni]

" HEARSAY"

Heresay = ni kwa mainjinia
Hearsay = ni kwa ambao wana degree za mashaka mashaka. Hasa PhD!

 

[Hassan Mambosasa]

Na wewe pia umekose miaka 1885 ni 1880's na 1800' ni kuanzia 1800 mpaka 1809

Hebu angalia ulichokikosoa halafu unakuja kukikubali hapo chini

 

[Artifact Collector]

Hebu angalia ulichokikosoa halafu unakuja kukikubali hapo chini

Na wewe soma vizuri utaelewa nilichoandika

 

[MABAKULI]

Hao fisiemu PhD zao ukitaka zifanye kazi muulize chato ilizaliwa lini ? Yanatamani hata askofu pendo aseme ameona kwenye biblia jina la wilaya ya chato ! Au aseme chato ilikuwa karibu ya Jerusalem ikahamishiwa Tanzania

 

[Mnondwe]

Siyo walewale wa muingano wa Zimbabwe na Pemba?