Dr. Kitila ampa tabu Thabo Mbeki

[Companero]

Examples, please.

You can find lots of them inside this book (including ones on what causes poverty in Africa) : Why Nations Fail by Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson

 

[Kiranga]

Examples, please.

The incidence of lung cancer among long term cigarrette smokers.

I will give him that correlation can be used to show causation, but that does not mean correlation IS causation because you can draw correlation between things that have no causation in their relationship.

 

[Companero]

Which is not to say that correlation equals causation.

In set language, causation is a subset of the larger set of correlation. Cases of causation are correlated to the results, but there are many other cases correlated to yet many other cases with no causation. The chocolate example above isa fine testimony.

One can simplify this by saying say all causations are correlated but not all correlations are causations.

"Binadamu wote ni bipeds, lakini kuna bipeds si binadamu" style.

Mind you saying "poverty causes AIDS" is not one and the same thing as saying "poverty causes HIV"

 

[Ritz]

Gongolamboto, unaleta siasa. Nipo kwenye field hii kwa muda mrefu sasa. Mbeki thesis yake imekuwa kwamba hakuna uhusuano kati ya hiv na aids na kwa hivyo akadai kwamba arvs ni sumu, ndio maana akaweka kizingiti hizi dawa zisiingie nchini mwake. Haya mambo yapo wazi hata kwa google tu. Soma acha uvivu!

Kitila Mkumbo,
Bahati nzuri upo kwenye field hiyo muda mrefu kama unavyotujuza...kwa hiyo marais wawili wa Afrika Kusini Thabo Mbeki na Nelson Mandela watoto wao walikufa kwa ukimwi?

 

[Magwangala]

WOWOWO,
Kwa faida ya JF naomba ututajie jina la mtoto wa Thabo Mbeki aliyekufa kwa HIV.

Acha uvivu,pitia swali kama lilivyoulizwa kwa usahihi na Dr Kitila Mkumbo badala ya kurukia page ya mwisho na kupost utumbo wako huu!

 

[Magwangala]

Kitila Mkumbo,
Bahati nzuri upo kwenye field hiyo muda mrefu kama unavyotujuza...kwa hiyo marais wawili wa Afrika Kusini Thabo Mbeki na Nelson Mandela watoto wao walikufa kwa ukimwi?

Hebu soma swali kama lilivyoulizwa kwa usahihi na Dr Kitila Mkumbo,usiogope,limetafsiriwa kwa kiswahili!

 

[Kiranga]

Mind you saying "poverty causes AIDS" is not one and the same thing as saying "poverty causes HIV"

Correct, but HIV causes AIDS, this is the bone of contention here.

Why couldn't Mbeki respect his audience by gracing them with admitting his former peccadillo?

 

[Companero]

Correct, but HIV causes AIDS, this is the bone of contention here.

Why couldn't Mbeki respect his audience by gracing them with admitting his former peccadillo?

Former?

 

[Albedo]

Hebu soma swali kama lilivyoulizwa kwa usahihi na Dr Kitila Mkumbo,usiogope,limetafsiriwa kwa kiswahili!

Mkuu eti Hilo ni Jembe la CCM Online ha ha ha yeye anauliza swali akirefer Uzushi na wakati Dr. Kitila ameshafanya clarification

 

[Kiranga]

Former?

Former as in that which took place originally in the past, currently he is not exactly peccadillo-ing, rather buttressing the catacombs of his legacy as a hyperbole's poster boy by not redeeming himself.

 

[Companero]

Why couldn't Mbeki respect his audience by gracing them with admitting his former peccadillo?

An academic audience that is supposed to search and read this voluminous and well-researched biography:

Mbeki admits he is still Aids dissident six years on | World news | The Guardian

 

[Companero]

Former as in that which took place originally in the past, currently he is not exactly peccadillo-ing, rather buttressing the catacombs of his legacy as a hyperbole's poster boy by not redeeming himself.

Redemption from what?

 

[Albedo]

Kitila Mkumbo,
Bahati nzuri upo kwenye field hiyo muda mrefu kama unavyotujuza...kwa hiyo marais wawili wa Afrika Kusini Thabo Mbeki na Nelson Mandela watoto wao walikufa kwa ukimwi?

Eti Na wewe ni Jembe la CCM online. Yaani wewe ni Bonge la Pimbi maana ungesoma Post ya Kitila Mkumbo usingeuliza huu Ushuzi wako

" Ritz ni Jembe la CCM Online " by Mutuz Le Baharia, Big Show 23/11/2012

 

[Mundu]

kitila alipaswa kujua kwamba Mbeki alivyosema ukimwi ni ugonjwa wa maskini alisema kwa muktadha gani.kwa mfano; wakati mtu anakemea uzembe wa madereva, anaweza kusema "ajali barabarani husababihwa na uzembe wa madereva" sasa hapa haina maana kwamba ni kila ajali itakayotokea itakuwa ni usembe wa dereva lakini kulingana na mazingira ya kauli;kauli inakuwa ni sahihi.Sasa mbeki alipo sema vile. alitaka kuonyesha kwamba umaskini una mchango mkubwa katika kuenea kwa ukimwi;kitu ambacho kina ukweli.

Sasa kwanini asingesimamia kauli yake?

 

[Kiranga]

An academic audience that is supposed to search and read this voluminous and well-researched biography:

Mbeki admits he is still Aids dissident six years on | World news | The Guardian

Mbeki shall be asked on this matter to his deathbed if circumstances permit. The stance is that absurd.

 

[Companero]

Mbeki shall be asked on this matter to his deathbed if circumstances permit. The stance is that absurd.

Absurd according to whom - Conventionalist/Anti-Dissidence?

 

[Kiranga]

Redemption from what?

From the peccadillo of course.

 

[Kiranga]

Absurd according to whom - Conventionalist/Anti-Dissidence?

the convergent arrow of science.

 

[Janjaweed]

Hakuna anayekataa kama Ukimwi sio janga hapa tunazungumzia swali alilouliza Dr wenu!

Chama
Gongo la mboto DSM

swali lake ni relevant mno

you just dont know impact ya mbeki kudharau ukimwi kwa nchi kama swaziland, lesotho na botswana

Kitila hit the nail in the head

BTW, Kitila is my secondary school class mate sio Dr. Wangu

he did the right question

myopia yako itakuua

 

[DSM]

kitila alipaswa kujua kwamba Mbeki alivyosema ukimwi ni ugonjwa wa maskini alisema kwa muktadha gani.kwa mfano; wakati mtu anakemea uzembe wa madereva, anaweza kusema "ajali barabarani husababihwa na uzembe wa madereva" sasa hapa haina maana kwamba ni kila ajali itakayotokea itakuwa ni usembe wa dereva lakini kulingana na mazingira ya kauli;kauli inakuwa ni sahihi.Sasa mbeki alipo sema vile. alitaka kuonyesha kwamba umaskini una mchango mkubwa katika kuenea kwa ukimwi;kitu ambacho kina ukweli.

Ninamsoma sana mkumbo na bahati mzuri namuelewaga sana. Kwa kumuuliza swali hilo Mbeki ambalo kusema kweli alistahili kwa mtazamo wake kwamba ugonjwa wa Ukimwi unasababishwa na umaskini. Sasa kitila alitaka kujua kama msimamo wake unaendelea hivyo kufuatia kifo cha mtoto wake,ambaye kwa kulingana hali yake ya kipato huwezi kumuweka sawa na maskini wa kawaida ,manake kwa mtazamo wa mojakwa moja wa mbeki kama ambavyo na mimi nilivyomuelewa ni kwamba ukimwi unasababishwa na umasikini na wala sio virusi vya ukimwi. Sasa imetokeaje mtoto wa mtu ambaye sio masikini(Mbeki) afariki kwa ugonjwa wa kimasikini. Namtakia maisha marefu mzee madiba ambaye alikiri hazarani kwenye msiba wa kijana wake mkubwa kwa kutamka kwamba amefariki kwa ukimwi manake ingekuwa huku kwetu tungeambiwa sijui presha ooh kisukari. Hongera Kitila Mkumbo kwa kummpich mzee mzima huo ndio ugreat thinker wenyewe, wengi tunakufuatilia kaka hongera sana