Does everthing happen for specific reason?????

Does everthing happen for specific reason?????

Yes, at least in the sense that belief does not result in knowledge,
Unbelief by itself does not result in knowledge either.
..to the contrary, belief is accepting without questioning or knowing. Not questioning breeds ignorance.
Accepting what without questioning? Belief in God does not stop one from questioning, unless one forces oneself not to. If you believe in God that gave you intelligence, you have no option but to use that intelligence, else you will be portraying God as being fallible for giving you something without a purpose. Hence questioning everything is a condition for being a true believer.
If you are educated and you believe in god, your education is limited at that, you are bound to assign any unknown to "god's mysteries" and sleep on it. This breeds ignorance.
Not at all. If you believe in God and His grand design for an instance, you will want to work hard to prove the existence of that design. It ought to work as an incentive rather than a hindrance, to persevere in seeking knowledge to understand god's ways.
A peer who does not believe in god would not settle for that answer and would look for a better explanation.
No difference between the two. One wants to prove God's existence through science and nature while the other wants to disapprove God's involvement through the same channels. Their work is the same.

I demonstrated that the idea of skepticism is nothing new and strange as some of our fellow Tanzanians would believe. There was a fellow who did not believe that I did not believe in god, simply because he had never heard such a thing in his entire life. Just goes to show some of the fine stock of specimen we are dealing with here.
You were singled out in this thread specifically as one who does not believe in a deity,s o that point did not have any relevancy

The fact that there were societies with progressive ideas and believed in god does not make god real, and does not remove the ignorance imposed on those societies due to the limitation of a godhead ceiling.
As explained above, belief in god does not hinder one from seeking as much knowledge, about anything, as much as one wants. On the contrary, it makes one seek knowledge in every single matter as much as possible to use properly his god given intelligence so as to better understand god's ways

It is still a badge of honor for at least one JF member who has the Nazi Swastika as their avatar, what's your point in echoing me? I was demonstrating that my position is nothing new, what are you demonstrating?
I'm demonstrating that badges of honor don't mean anything much.

Are you upholding your submission to god as a badge of honor? Yes or no?
Why should it be?

An element of being educated is not believing in superstitions. Religion is just a system of superstitions. Educated societies have a low tolerance for believing in superstitions.
Educated societies do not tolerate belief in superstitions but are quick to believe in "causeless spontaneity" rather than kudra, although they are one and the same thing

Believing is accepting something as fact without investigation.
What is being believed as a fact without investigation?
Investigating something means you are not satisfied and do not believe. You cannot have belief and investigation at the same time. If you believe, you do not investigate, if you investigate, you do not believe.
Yyou can investigate to reaffirm your belief
Even Ptolemy and Aristotle had some meaningful contributions to science, but that does not mean they were infallible.
Who said anything about any human being infallible?

He was working in the midst of a knowledge deprived era that was just coming out of the Industrial Revolution, do you really want us to go back to this era?
Your point is…? If you mean to imply that he wouldn't have believed in God if he wasn't in that era, then I don't happen to see the correlation. Enlighten me.
 
I guess this can be explained but it requires a lot of explanation. Should i pick one of the questions or they were ment for Kiranga him self?

Wewe jibu tu. Maswali ya public hayana hati miliki
 
Usipingane na maneno ya Mungu,
"Tazameni ndege, hawapandi wala hawavuni Mungu huwalisha"

Kichaa ana juhudi gani - mbona anapata riziki kama kawaida?

Ni kweli kila tukio linakuja kwa sababu maalum ... ona hii ..

Mshkaji wangu mmoja alikuwa na safari kwenda Geita, alipopeleka gari garage lifanyiwe matengenezo - yalifanyika vizuri lakini walipojaribu kuliwasha liligoma kuwaka likabaki hapo garage na safari ikaahirishwa. Jioni yake aliponiambia - nikamwambia labda safari hiyo haikuwa na baraka za Kimungu, la kushangaza alipoamka asubuhi kwenda kuliwasha liliwaka bila kufanyiwa chochote .....

Taarifa za jana yake ni kwamba njiani magari mengi yalitekwa na majambazi.

Asie fanya kazi na asile,remmember??????????
 
Kama tunafikiria time travel(scientifically) is possible, kwanini kusiwe na uwezekano kuwa humans have the ability to do it in their mind the way that science can not explain yet?

You can't prove a negative, so "kwa nini kusiwe na uwezekano..." is the wrong question.

Kwa nini kuwe na uwezekano huo?

Time travel at our scale of the universe is possible actually in one direction only, forward.

The rest is in science fiction books and theoretical constructs.
 
Kujua upeo wako isije ikawa ni kiranga tu kinakusumbua

This piece of babble is not a complete sentence, it is logically unsound and structurally hanging, it fails to communicate any way you cut it.
 
Well,well,well! I didn't know science gives all answers to troubles of life so readily;

Who said that?
now go a step further and explain to me how i can generate anger scientifically and switch it off at will. Also enlighten me as to how to implement a failed erection and terminate it at my wish scientifically

Do you? The question is irrelevant due to the wrong premise .
 
God is entitled to a little R & R too for all the hard work that he does,:amen:.

Is that why the religious nuts are so zealously policing the world? God is catching a lil snooze every now and then?
 
Is that why the religious nuts are so zealously policing the world? God is catching a lil snooze every now and then?

The devil stays on the grind round-the-clock. And you know what they say, you snooze, you lose.
 
Unbelief by itself does not result in knowledge either.

That is hardly the assertion. Unbelief is unbounded, belief in god is bounded by the god idea.

Accepting what without questioning?

Anything, as a premise.

Belief in God does not stop one from questioning, unless one forces oneself not to.

Belief does not question. If you start questioning you are deviating from belief, you are starting to investigate.
Belief and questions do not mix. You can't believe and question at the same time.Once you start questioning a degree of belief is corroded, the very idea of questioning is rooted in uncertainty and doubt. Belief is uncertainty or doubt, uncertainty and doubt are not belief.

If you believe in God that gave you intelligence, you have no option but to use that intelligence, else you will be portraying God as being fallible for giving you something without a purpose. Hence questioning everything is a condition for being a true believer.

Questioning is not belief per above.


Not at all. If you believe in God and His grand design for an instance, you will want to work hard to prove the existence of that design.

The very act of trying to prove implies verification, that there is a lack in the belief that needs to be augmented by proof. Otherwise why prove something you already believe?

It ought to work as an incentive rather than a hindrance, to persevere in seeking knowledge to understand god's ways.

If you believe in god, at least the Arahamic godhead, investigating god is a blasphemy and certain questions cannot be asked. If you do not believe in god, you do not have this glass ceiling.

Belief in god breeds ignorance at least in this respect.This is just a small example to demonstrate a bigger issue.That belief in god is limiting and breeds ignorance.

No difference between the two. One wants to prove God's existence through science and nature while the other wants to disapprove God's involvement through the same channels. Their work is the same.

The difference is pointed above.

You were singled out in this thread specifically as one who does not believe in a deity,s o that point did not have any relevancy

That should be the relevancy, not otherwise.

As explained above, belief in god does not hinder one from seeking as much knowledge, about anything, as much as one wants.

To the contrary, we have seen the blasphemy limitation above.

There is a kid who as killed in Syria for saying that he would not give his wares for free even if the Prophet Muhammad himself came to his stall.

He was killed for blaspheming prophet Muhammad. Do you think a society like this will tolerate a deep investigation into the nature and existence of god? One would be killed instantly by martyrs rallying for the cause of god.

How can you rate this attitude with a society that believes in open inquiry?

On the contrary, it makes one seek knowledge in every single matter as much as possible to use properly his god given intelligence so as to better understand god's ways

So why is there blasphemy in religion?

Go and do a social experiment, at a public square in Saudi Arabia, question the existence of god, citing your need to understand him better, and see how long will your neck last.

On second thoughts do not, I do not want your blood on my head. Just look at how the Bangladeshi mobs are killing atheists. How could you say religion encourages inquiry of every kind?

I'm demonstrating that badges of honor don't mean anything much.

Your demonstration demonstrates that demonstrating badges of honor doesn't mean much doesn't mean much.

Why should it be?

The question is not should it be, rather, are you.

Educated societies do not tolerate belief in superstitions but are quick to believe in "causeless spontaneity" rather than kudra, although they are one and the same thing

Educated societies do not tolerate belief period, that is why anything not understood is studied to be understood.

What is being believed as a fact without investigation?

Anything, this is a premise.

Yyou can investigate to reaffirm your belief

If you have to reaffirm, your belief is lacking per above, you have doubt, doubt is not belief.

Who said anything about any human being infallible?

So upholding Newton as some beacon of import to shame nonbelievers was fallaciously touted.

Your point is…? If you mean to imply that he wouldn't have believed in God if he wasn't in that era, then I don't happen to see the correlation. Enlighten me.

A one eyed person can have the best vision in the land of the blind and become king of the blind.

Just because he is king of the blind it does not mean he has 20/20 vision and should be regarded to have the best vision in the land of 20/20 vision.

Newton was also involved in all sorts of crackpot alchemy to create gold and similar laughable quackery characteristic of the denizens of that Malthusian squalor infested and Dickensian delinquency century, do you want us to uphold that too?
 
Ninachokifikiria ni kwamba wanadamu kuna mambo mengi yapo nje ya fahamu zetu,
lets say kama mtu akijua akipanda gari mbele anaenda kupata ajali asingepanda,
au ukila kitu fulani matokeo yake kitaenda kukuumiza hatimaye kukuletea magonjwa usingekula kwahiyo ninachokifikiria mimi ni kuwa Mungu anahusika sana na maisha yetu ikiwa tutamtegemea kwa 100%
Swala la kusema kila jambo linatokea kwa sababu fulani siyo mambo yote ni baadhi tuu ya mambo ndio yana makusudi
 
Well, it damn sure looks like it. Look what's happening all around the globe.

The devil is one up on god.

Now now now now.

Why would I want that kind of god? Especially with all his reputed omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence?
 
You might as well just fend for yourself....

I thought so.

Some, invoking tradition and myths through abbreviated intellects and a thinly disguised cognizant dissonance peppered by a fabulous mob psychology to rival the great Masai-Mara migration would beg to differ.
 
Belief does not question. If you start questioning you are deviating from belief, you are starting to investigate.
Belief and questions do not mix. You can't believe and question at the same time.Once you start questioning a degree of belief is corroded, the very idea of questioning is rooted in uncertainty and doubt. Belief is uncertainty or doubt, uncertainty and doubt are not belief.

Say dogma.

Dare to question lest you be accused of heresy.
 
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