AU's dilemna and the Libyan crisis

AU's dilemna and the Libyan crisis

Hapo kwenye nyekundu hapo ndipo panawapa Allied Forces ruhusa ya kujipigia mabomu wanavyotaka.
As long as hakuna majeshi ya nchi za kigeni kwenye ardhi ya Libya, hii mission ina baraka zote za UN.

Mkuu.
Soma hii Obama statement .. halafu uone huu unafiki wa US.

"I condemn in the strongest possible terms the bombing in Jerusalem today, as well as the rockets and mortars fired from Gaza in recent days. Together with the American people, I offer my deepest condolences for those injured or killed. There is never any possible justification for terrorism. The United States calls on the groups responsible to end these attacks at once and we underscore that Israel, like all nations, has a right to self-defense. We also express our deepest condolences for the deaths of Palestinian civilians in Gaza yesterday. We stress the importance of calm and urge all parties to do everything in their power to prevent further violence and civilian casualties."
Obama on Israel Bombing | POLITICO 44

na hii ya Clinton.

We stress the importance of calm and we urge all concerned to do everything in their power to prevent further violence and civilian casualties among both Israelis and Palestinians. Violence only erodes hope for a lasting and meaningful peace and the final realization of two states for two peoples.


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How Qaddafi Reshaped Africa
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Whenever most of us think of oil-rich, Arab-speaking countries, our imagination performs a trick with our sense of geography, placing us by default in the Middle East.

Of the three North African countries at the heart of the popular uprisings that have riveted the world over the last several weeks, Libya's Muammar Qaddafi has always done the most to assert his country's African identity, staking its prestige, its riches and his own personal influence above all on its place in the continent.

As a deep-pocketed and sparsely populated state ever in need of labor, it has always made sense for Qaddafi to look south. Libya is far too small and peripheral for it to ever aspire to real influence in the Arab world. By comparison, the almost equally small but far poorer countries of nearby West Africa, wracked as they are with chronic misrule and instability, loom temptingly on the horizon as fruit ripe for picking.

Whatever our loose or flawed sense of geography tells us, things have always been thus. For at least 1,000 years, Morocco's kingdoms have periodically thrust southward, establishing shape-shifting realms from present-day Niger all the way to Senegal.

Qaddafi's big idea was to meld a modern, anti-Western, anti-imperial discourse with an impassioned pan-Africanism, an ideal that still resonates deeply across the continent.

For decades in Africa, Qaddafi has put his money where his mouth was: showering petro-dollars on favored clients, funding liberation groups, nurturing political movements, and even paying civil servants. To make sure that no one missed the message, he has often paid a huge portion of the operating costs of the continental body, the African Union.

The problem with Qaddafi's pan-Africanism, like his rule in general is that it has steadily turned into a vessel for his megalomania.

As a reporter with a career-long association with the African continent, I have been in a rare position to witness this trend beginning with some of Qaddafi's earliest African exploits.

In 1983, I scrambled from Ivory Coast to Chad to witness the breakout of war between French and Libyan forces there. Qaddafi had recently spoken of fully "integrating" his country with its southern neighbor.

I quickly found my way to the eastern front, where I watched the conflict from a desert foxhole with French soldiers as they spotted screaming, low-flying Jaguar fighter bombers pounding Libyan positions nearby. That same year, I traveled to Burkina Faso, where Qaddafi had flown to celebrate the seizure of power by a charismatic young army captain, Thomas Sankara, who he clearly saw as a promising understudy.

They met at a military base near the border with Ghana. From there, Sankara's comrade, Blaise Compaoré had recently rallied paratroopers to free Sankara from detention and install him as president.

When I showed up, Qaddafi, surrounded by his famous all female bodyguard corps, angrily objected to my presence and demanded that Sankara not allow an American to ride with the motorcade for their triumphal, flag-waving trip to the capital, Ouagadougou. Sankara, who already knew me well, insisted on my presence. Four years later, he would be dead, murdered by Compaoré, it is widely believed, with Qaddafi's encouragement.

The Libyan's determination to eliminate his erstwhile protégé had nothing to do with me, of course. Most signs point instead to Sankara's refusal to acquiesce in a much bigger decision: to sponsor an invasion of Liberia by Charles Taylor, a leader who is now before the Hague on war crime charges related to his instigation of what would go on to become one of Africa's most horrific conflicts.

Taylor, a kindred megalomaniac, who was trained and financed by Libya, invaded Liberia in 1989. A few years later, I would cover that war for The New York Times as well, watching the rebel leader ride one of the first mass deployments of child soldiers into power.

Were it not for the British intervention in Sierra Leone's civil war next door, another Libyan project, the Taylor-Qaddafi axis would have taken over that country next, before turning its sights on other wobbling dominos nearby, whether Guinea or Ivory Coast. From Liberia, I went to Zaire to cover the fall of Mobutu Sese Seko at the hands of Laurent Kabila, an obscure revolutionary who had cut his teeth in 1960 liberation movements before seemingly going into hibernation. Although Rwanda was his main patron, it turns out that Qaddafi had invested in Kabila, too.

A map of the places where I watched Qaddafi play similar games would stretch from Seychelles to the Central African Republic to Guinea, far vaster even than the Moroccan domains of old.

Even today, when one looks around the continent at zones of conflict, it's a safe bet that the Libyan leader has a line in, ever willing to take long odds that eventually his strategy of cobbling together a pan-African realm will pan out.

As such dreams crumble along with his power, however, Qaddafi will leave a final destabilizing legacy for the continent. Among the million-plus sub-Saharan migrants living in his country, many have already faced suspicion and brutal reprisals because of Qaddafi's use of black mercenaries as a desperate, final rampart.

But there is worse still. It is all but certain that there are new Charles Taylors out there, trained and armed by Qaddafi and eager to mount violent bids for power. And with their patron going down in flames, they will be heading home.
How Qaddafi Reshaped Africa - Howard W. French - International - The Atlantic
Questions
1. Mircenaries wa Tanzania wapo na tutatoa hii information kwani kuna habari serikali imechangia kumlinda Gadaffi. Is Kikwete one of Gadaffi mercenaries?
2. Kitu gani kinatushangaza African Union ku-defend Gadaffi?
African Union At a Loss Over Libya - IPS ipsnews.net
What are we expecting from African Leaders? Tuangalie AU panels imejengwa tena na huyo huyo Zuma, S.A. President alimuondoa Thabo Mbeki ili yeye apate kuwa raisi wa S.A.
Thabo Mbeki forced out as rival Jacob Zuma seizes power - Times Online
(list ya AU panels: S.A., Uganda, Mauritania, Mali and Congo). Wote wanaonekana wamepata support kutoka kwa Gadaffi.
3. Lini Africa itakuwa huru wakati viongozi kama Kikwete, Mubage na Museven wataendelea kujipenza na kupachikwa na vyama kama ccm, upm na zanu-pf?
4. Ushahuri ni kwamba hakuna muda zaidi wa ku-support ccm na viongozi wake ni moja ya watu wanachangia kuuliwa kwa Africa na Tanzania. Tunaona ushirikiano wao kila mahali Africa
 
1. Mircenaries wa Tanzania wapo na tutatoa hii information kwani kuna habari serikali imechangia kumlinda Gadaffi. Is Kikwete one of Gadaffi mercenaries?

Ukweli ni kwamba huyu Mmanga fataki ameua Watanzania wengi sana kwenye vita vya Uganda, sababu aliaamua kumsaidia Idi Amin kwenye vita ya Kagera kwa vile tu alikuwa Muislam mwenzake. Lakini hivi leo, angalia Waislam wa Bongo wanavyojikomba kwa Muuaji Gadaffi, na Shehe wao mkuu akiwa kinara wao, sababu kawajengea misikiti.
 
Mkuu.
Wewe unapenda kutupa sugar coated kloroquine and quinine.
Kama West ndio wame-draft hiyo resolution na kujiwekea hicho kipengele cha "all necessary measures" halafu wakaikokoteza Jordan. jordan na Britain ndio wame-introduce hiyo resolution kwenye chamber..huoni ni kiini macho hiki mkuu?

and within hours, wakaanza kudondosha mabomu Libya, measures zipi zingefuata kabla ya kudondosha mabomu? mkuu AU au Arab league wataresolve vipi issue hii wakati unadondosha mabomu kama mvua ya masika?

mzozo wa Libya umechukua siku ngapi kabla ya West na US kuanza uharibifu wao.
Mbona kuna mizozo imeshachukua miaka mingi sasa na bado wanatafuta suluhisho kwa mazungumzo na sio kwa kudondosha mabomu?
Jee UN au west na US walituma ujumbe wowote Libya kwa kufanya diplomasia na serikali ya Gaddaffi kabla ya kudondosha mabomu?

Wito wao wa kwanza ilikuwa Gaddaffi aache uasi na aondoke madarakani. na halafu wamesema ni lazima aondoke tu...halafu mkuu unapopiga majeshi ya serikali lakini unawapa cover waasi wawapige majeshi ya serikali. Hizi ni sheria za wapi?

Kuna member 15 kwenye Security council 5 of them ni permanent na wana veto power. Unataka kusema members wote hawakuisoma na kuijadili iyo draft kabla ya kupiga kura na kupitisha? Seriously kama ndio unafikiria hivyo then hakuna aja tena ya huu mjadala.

Hiyo resolution imepitishwa on the 17th, bombing imeanza usiku wa March 19th. Ijumaa usiku serikali ya Libya ikatangaza kuwa itasitisha mashambulizi dhidi ya rebels walioko Benghazi lakini kumbe ilikuwa ni danganya toto maana usiku huo huo wakaanza kushambulia tena kwa matarajio ya kuwa Benghazi itarudi mikononi mwake kabla UN hawajaanza kuenforce hiyo No-Fly Zone.
Nina uhakika serikali ya Gaddafi ingesitisha mashambuli kwa waasi kama walivyosema tusingekuwa hapa, mbona Saddam aliwekewa no fly zone (kaskazini kwa wakurd) na mambo yalienda vizuri tu kwa sababu aliacha kuwashambulia.

AU na Arab league walikuwa na mwezi mzima wa kuresolve hii isse, hayo maandamano ya Libya yameanza katikati ya February, March 1st Arab League wakaanza kuomba international community iingilie kati kwa kuweka No Fly Zone, kipindi icho US and Co wakawa wemeanza kufreeze mali za Gaddafi na familia yake, Mpaka hapo AU wamekaa kimya kama hakuna kinachoendelea, sababu Gaddafi ni mfadhili wao?

Hujiulizi kwa nini Russia na China hawakuveto? Maana wangesema no resolution isingepitishwa. Mkuu hapa tubishana till kingdom come lakini wewe na mimi tunajua kuwa Gaddafi alikosea sana pale alipotuma jeshi kwenda kuwatanya kwa sira za moto waandamanaji walioanza kukutana pale Green Square siku ya February 17th.
 
Mkuu.
Viongozi wetu wengi wa Afrika ni 10% type.
Pili wengi wanabaki madarakani kwa wizi wa kura.
Tatu, wanapopata hiyo 10% wanaificha katika mabenki ya mataifa ya West na kwa hiyo siri zao zinajuulika vyema na serikali za nchi hizo. Ndio sababu huwa rahisi kurubuniwa.
Nne, Bajeti za nchi nyingi ingawa zina utajiri wa rasilimali za asili lakini zinategemea ufadhili na misaada ya West na US.
Umesahau kuongezea tano kuwa wengi wa hao viongozi wanafadhiliwa na Gaddafi vile vile, kumbuka mabenzi yale ya Ikulu na Wizara ya Mambo ya Nje kutoka kwa Gaddafi? Na misaada mingine ya kijamii na kidini mingi.
 
Rwandan President Paul Kagame has endorsed the ongoing UN-authorised bombing raids on Libya, arguing the situation in the North African country had degenerated “beyond” what the African Union could handle.

In an interview with our reporter in London on Monday, shortly after he delivered a keynote address at The Times CEO Summit Africa, Mr Kagame said Rwanda supports the no-fly zone that the UN Security Council imposed on Libya last week.



Beyond Africa
“Rwanda’s position is Africa Union’s position. Africa Union position was that there was need to understand what was going on in Libya and based on that, then action taken be supported,” he said. “But what was happening on the ground was beyond what was Africa’s position.”


President Kagame added: “That is how the UN Security Council, including African countries that sit on it, decided.” Ten of the 15 members of the Security Council, including South Africa, voted in favour of the resolution co-sponsored by the UK, France and Qatar while five nations, among them veto-power wielding China and Russia, abstained. The Arab League to which Libya belongs made the first calls for a no-fly zone after it emerged Col. Muammar Gaddafi’s forces were bombing civilians indiscriminately.


Mr Kagame’s views, in relation to a question from this newspaper, even when unrelated, sharply contrasts with that of Ugandan President Museveni, who has chosen to criticise UN and blanket security over Libya.



Mr Museveni, who preferred Africans tackled the Gaddafi situation, was one of four Presidents from the continent, charged by African Union to do fact-finding in Tripoli and explore ways of negotiated end to the unrest.



Col. Gaddafi had reportedly agreed to meet the AU High Level Ad-hoc Committee, which was on Saturday turned away from the Libyan airspace now firmly under control of the international community.



Mr Museveni wrote a missive to media outlets on Sunday, saying military action against Gaddafi’s regime lacked “impeachable logic”, showed the West’s “double standards” and could trigger an arms race.
 
By the time Muammar Gaddaffi came to power in 1969, I was a third year university student at Dar-es-Salaam. We welcomed him because he was in the tradition of Col. Gamal Abdul Nasser of Egypt who had a nationalist and pan-Arabist position.

Soon, however, problems cropped up with Col. Gaddafi as far as Uganda and Black Africa were concerned:


1.Idi Amin came to power with the support of Britain and Israel because they thought he was uneducated enough to be used by them. Amin, however, turned against his sponsors when they refused to sell him guns to fight Tanzania. Unfortunately, Col. Muammar Gaddafi, without getting enough information about Uganda, jumped in to support Idi Amin. This was because Amin was a ‘Moslem’ and Uganda was a ‘Moslem country’ where Moslems were being ‘oppressed’ by Christians. Amin killed a lot of people extra-judicially and Gaddafi was identified with these mistakes. In 1972 and 1979, Gaddafi sent Libyan troops to defend Idi Amin when we attacked him. I remember a Libyan Tupolev 22 bomber trying to bomb us in Mbarara in 1979. The bomb ended up in Nyarubanga because the pilots were scared. They could not come close to bomb properly. We had already shot-down many Amin MIGs using surface-to-air missiles. The Tanzanian brothers and sisters were doing much of this fighting. Many Libyan militias were captured and repatriated to Libya by Tanzania. This was a big mistake by Gaddafi and a direct aggression against the people of Uganda and East Africa.

2.The second big mistake by Gaddafi was his position vis-à-vis the African Union (AU) Continental Government “now”. Since 1999, he has been pushing this position. Black people are always polite. They, normally, do not want to offend other people. This is called: ‘obufura’ in Runyankore, mwolo in Luo – handling, especially strangers, with care and respect. It seems some of the non-African cultures do not have ‘obufura’. You can witness a person talking to a mature person as if he/she is talking to a kindergarten child. “You should do this; you should do that; etc.” We tried to politely point out to Col. Gaddafi that this was difficult in the short and medium term. We should, instead, aim at the Economic Community of Africa and, where possible, also aim at Regional Federations. Col. Gaddafi would not relent. He would not respect the rules of the AU. Something that has been covered by previous meetings would be resurrected by Gaddafi. He would ‘overrule’ a decision taken by all other African Heads of State. Some of us were forced to come out and oppose his wrong position and, working with others, we repeatedly defeated his illogical position.

3.The third mistake has been the tendency by Col. Gaddafi to interfere in the internal affairs of many African countries using the little money Libya has compared to those countries. One blatant example was his involvement with cultural leaders of Black Africa – kings, chiefs, etc. Since the political leaders of Africa had refused to back his project of an African Government, Gaddafi, incredibly, thought that he could by-pass them and work with these kings to implement his wishes. I warned Gaddafi in Addis Ababa that action would be taken against any Ugandan king that involved himself in politics because it was against our Constitution. I moved a motion in Addis Ababa to expunge from the records of the AU all references to kings (cultural leaders) who had made speeches in our forum because they had been invited there illegally by Col. Gaddafi.

4.The fourth big mistake was by most of the Arab leaders, including Gaddafi to some extent. This was in connection with the long suffering people of Southern Sudan. Many of the Arab leaders either supported or ignored the suffering of the Black people in that country. This unfairness always created tension and friction between us and the Arabs, including Gaddafi to some extent. However, I must salute H.E. Gaddafi and H.E. Hosni Mubarak for travelling to Khartoum just before the Referendum in Sudan and advised H.E. Bashir to respect the results of that exercise.

5.Sometimes Gaddafi and other Middle Eastern radicals do not distance themselves sufficiently from terrorism even when they are fighting for a just cause. Terrorism is the use of indiscriminate violence – not distinguishing between military and non-military targets. The Middle Eastern radicals, quite different from the revolutionaries of Black Africa, seem to say that any means is acceptable as long as you are fighting the enemy. That is why they hijack planes, use assassinations, plant bombs in bars, etc. Why bomb bars? People who go to bars are normally merry-makers, not politically minded people. We were together with the Arabs in the anti-colonial struggle. The Black African liberation movements, however, developed differently from the Arab ones. Where we used arms, we fought soldiers or sabotaged infrastructure but never targeted non-combatants. These indiscriminate methods tend to isolate the struggles of the Middle East and the Arab world. It would be good if the radicals in these areas could streamline their work methods in this area of using violence indiscriminately.
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These five points above are some of the negative points in connection to Col. Gaddafi as far as Uganda’s patriots have been concerned over the years. These positions of Col. Gaddafi have been unfortunate and unnecessary.

Nevertheless, Gaddafi has also had many positive points objectively speaking. These positive points have been in favour of Africa, Libya and the Third World. I will deal with them point by point:

1.Col. Gaddafi has been having an independent foreign policy and, of course, also independent internal policies. I am not able to understand the position of Western countries which appear to resent independent-minded leaders and seem to prefer puppets. Puppets are not good for any country. Most of the countries that have transitioned from Third World to First World status since 1945 have had independent-minded leaders: South Korea (Park Chung-hee), Singapore (Lee Kuan Yew), China People’s Republic (Mao Tse Tung, Chou Enlai, Deng Xiaoping, Marshal Yang Shangkun, Li Peng, Jiang Zemin, Hu Jing Tao, etc), Malaysia (Dr. Mahthir Mohamad), Brazil (Lula Da Silva), Iran (the Ayatollahs), etc. Between the First World War and the Second World War, the Soviet Union transitioned into an Industrial country propelled by the dictatorial but independent-minded Joseph Stalin. In Africa we have benefited from a number of independent-minded leaders: Col. Nasser of Egypt, Mwalimu Nyerere of Tanzania, Samora Machel of Mozambique, etc. That is how Southern Africa was liberated. That is how we got rid of Idi Amin. The stopping of genocide in Rwanda and the overthrow of Mobutu, etc., were as a result of efforts of independent-minded African leaders. Muammar Gaddafi, whatever his faults, is a true nationalist. I prefer nationalists to puppets of foreign interests. Where have the puppets caused the transformation of countries? I need some assistance with information on this from those who are familiar with puppetry. Therefore, the independent-minded Gaddafi had some positive contribution to Libya, I believe, as well as Africa and the Third World. I will take one little example. At the time we were fighting the criminal dictatorships here in Uganda, we had a problem arising of a complication caused by our failure to capture enough guns at Kabamba on the 6th of February, 1981. Gaddafi gave us a small consignment of 96 rifles, 100 anti-tank mines, etc., that was very useful. He did not consult Washington or Moscow before he did this. This was good for Libya, for Africa and for the Middle East. We should also remember as part of that independent-mindedness he expelled British and American military bases from Libya, etc.

2.Before Gaddafi came to power in 1969, a barrel of oil was 40 American cents. He launched a campaign to withhold Arab oil unless the West paid more for it. I think the price went up to US$ 20 per barrel. When the Arab-Israel war of 1973 broke out, the barrel of oil went to US$ 40. I am, therefore, surprised to hear that many oil producers in the world, including the Gulf countries, do not appreciate the historical role played by Gaddafi on this issue. The huge wealth many of these oil producers are enjoying was, at least in part, due to Gaddafi’s efforts. The Western countries have continued to develop in spite of paying more for oil. It, therefore, means that the pre-Gaddafi oil situation was characterized by super exploitation in favour of the Western countries.

3.I have never taken time to investigate socio-economic conditions within Libya. When I was last there, I could see good roads even from the air. From the TV pictures, you can even see the rebels zooming up and down in pick-up vehicles on very good roads accompanied by Western journalists. Who built these good roads? Who built the oil refineries in Brega and those other places where the fighting has been taking place recently? Were these facilities built during the time of the king and his American as well as British allies or were they built by Gaddafi? In Tunisia and Egypt, some youths immolated (burnt) themselves because they had failed to get jobs. Are the Libyans without jobs also? If so, why, then, are there hundreds of thousands of foreign workers? Is Libya’s policy of providing so many jobs to Third World workers bad? Are all the children going to school in Libya? Was that the case in the past – before Gaddafi? Is the conflict in Libya economic or purely political? Possibly Libya could have transitioned more if they encouraged the private sector more. However, this is something the Libyans are better placed to judge. As it is, Libya is a middle income country with GDP standing at US$ 89.03 billion. This is about the same as the GDP of South Africa at the time Mandela took over leadership in 1994 and it about 155 times the current size of GDP of Spain.

4.Gaddafi is one of the few secular leaders in the Arab world. He does not believe in Islamic fundamentalism that is why women have been able to go to school, to join the Army, etc. This is a positive point on Gaddafi’s side.
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Coming to the present crisis, therefore, we need to point out some issues:

1.The first issue is to distinguish between demonstrations and insurrections. Peaceful demonstrations should not be fired on with live bullets. Of course, even peaceful demonstrations should coordinate with the Police to ensure that they do not interfere with the rights of other citizens. When rioters are, however, attacking Police stations and Army barracks with the aim of taking power, then, they are no longer demonstrators; they are insurrectionists. They will have to be treated as such. A responsible Government would have to use reasonable force to neutralize them. Of course, the ideal responsible Government should also be an elected one by the people at periodic intervals. If there is a doubt about the legitimacy of a Government and the people decide to launch an insurrection, that should be the decision of the internal forces. It should not be for external forces to arrogate themselves that role, often, they do not have enough knowledge to decide rightly. Excessive external involvement always brings terrible distortions. Why should external forces involve themselves? That is a vote of no confidence in the people themselves. A legitimate internal insurrection, if that is the strategy chosen by the leaders of that effort, can succeed. The Shah of Iran was defeated by an internal insurrection; the Russian Revolution in 1917 was an internal insurrection; the Revolution in Zanzibar in 1964 was an internal insurrection; the changes in Ukraine, Georgia, etc., all were internal insurrections. It should be for the leaders of the Resistance in that country to decide their strategy, not for foreigners to sponsor insurrection groups in sovereign countries. I am totally allergic to foreign, political and military involvement in sovereign countries, especially the African countries. If foreign intervention is good, then, African countries should be the most prosperous countries in the world because we have had the greatest dosages of that: slave trade, colonialism, neo-colonialism, imperialism, etc. All those foreign imposed phenomena have, however, been disastrous. It is only recently that Africa is beginning to come up partly because of rejecting external meddling. External meddling and the acquiescence by Africans into that meddling have been responsible for the stagnation in Africa. The wrong definition of priorities in many of the African countries is, in many cases, imposed by external groups. Failure to prioritize infrastructure, for instance, especially energy, is, in part, due to some of these pressures. Instead, consumption is promoted. I have witnessed this wrong definition of priorities even here in Uganda. External interests linked up, for instance, with internal bogus groups to oppose energy projects for false reasons. How will an economy develop without energy? Quislings and their external backers do not care about all this.

2.If you promote foreign backed insurrections in small countries like Libya, what will you do with the big ones like China which has got a different system from the Western systems? Are you going to impose a no-fly-zone over China in case of some internal insurrections as happened in Tiananmen Square, in Tibet or in Urumqi?

3.The Western countries always use double standards. In Libya, they are very eager to impose a no-fly-zone. In Bahrain and other areas where there are pro-Western regimes, they turn a blind eye to the very same conditions or even worse conditions. We have been appealing to the UN to impose a no-fly-zone over Somalia so as to impede the free movement of terrorists, linked to Al-Qaeda, that killed Americans on September 11th, killed Ugandans last July and have caused so much damage to the Somalis, without success. Why? Are there no human beings in Somalia similar to the ones in Benghazi? Or is it because Somalia does not have oil which is not fully controlled by the western oil companies on account of Gaddafi’s nationalist posture?

4.The Western countries are always very prompt in commenting on every problem in the Third World – Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, etc. Yet, some of these very countries were the ones impeding growth in those countries. There was a military coup d'état that slowly became a Revolution in backward Egypt in 1952. The new leader, Nasser, had ambition to cause transformation in Egypt. He wanted to build a dam not only to generate electricity but also to help with the ancient irrigation system of Egypt. He was denied money by the West because they did not believe that Egyptians needed electricity. Nasser decided to raise that money by nationalizing the Suez Canal. He was attacked by Israel, France and Britain. To be fair to the USA, President Eisenhower opposed that aggression that time. Of course, there was also the firm stand of the Soviet Union at that time. How much electricity was this dam supposed to produce? Just 2000 mgws for a country like Egypt!! What moral right, then, do such people have to comment on the affairs of these countries?

5.Another negative point is going to arise out of the by now habit of the Western countries over-using their superiority in technology to impose war on less developed societies without impeachable logic. This will be the igniting of an arms race in the world. The actions of the Western countries in Iraq and now Libya are emphasizing that might is “right.” I am quite sure that many countries that are able will scale up their military research and in a few decades we may have a more armed world. This weapons science is not magic. A small country like Israel is now a super power in terms of military technology. Yet 60 years ago, Israel had to buy second-hand fouga magister planes from France. There are many countries that can become small Israels if this trend of overusing military means by the Western countries continues.
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6.All this notwithstanding, Col. Gaddafi should be ready to sit down with the opposition, through the mediation of the AU, with the opposition cluster of groups which now includes individuals well known to us – Ambassador Abdalla, Dr. Zubeda, etc. I know Gaddafi has his system of elected committees that end up in a National People’s Conference. Actually Gaddafi thinks this is superior to our multi-party systems. Of course, I have never had time to know how truly competitive this system is. Anyway, even if it is competitive, there is now, apparently, a significant number of Libyans that think that there is a problem in Libya in terms of governance. Since there has not been internationally observed elections in Libya, not even by the AU, we cannot know what is correct and what is wrong. Therefore, a dialogue is the correct way forward.

7.The AU mission could not get to Libya because the Western countries started bombing Libya the day before they were supposed to arrive. However, the mission will continue. My opinion is that, in addition, to what the AU mission is doing, it may be important to call an extra-ordinary Summit of the AU in Addis Ababa to discuss this grave situation.

8.Regarding the Libyan opposition, I would feel embarrassed to be backed by Western war planes because quislings of foreign interests have never helped Africa. We have had a copious supply of them in the last 50 years – Mobutu, Houphouet Boigny, Kamuzu Banda, etc. The West made a lot of mistakes in Africa and in the Middle East in the past. Apart from the slave trade and colonialism, they participated in the killing of Lumumba, until recently, the only elected leader of Congo, the killing of Felix Moummie of Cameroon, Bartholomew Boganda of Central African Republic, the support for UNITA in Angola, the support for Idi Amin at the beginning of his regime, the counter-revolution in Iran in 1953, etc. Recently, there has been some improvement in the arrogant attitudes of some of these Western countries. Certainly, with Black Africa and, particularly, Uganda, the relations are good following their fair stand on the Black people of Southern Sudan. With the democratization of South Africa and the freedom of the Black people in Southern Sudan, the difference between the patriots of Uganda and the Western Governments had disappeared. Unfortunately, these rush actions on Libya are beginning to raise new problems. They should be resolved quickly.

Therefore, if the Libyan opposition groups are patriots, they should fight their war by themselves and conduct their affairs by themselves. After all, they easily captured so much equipment from the Libyan Army, why do they need foreign military support? I only had 27 rifles. To be puppets is not good.

9.The African members of the Security Council voted for this Resolution of the Security Council. This was contrary to what the Africa Peace and Security Council had decided in Addis Ababa recently. This is something that only the extra-ordinary summit can resolve.

10.It was good that certain big countries in the Security Council abstained on this Resolution. These were: Russia, China, Brazil, India, etc. This shows that there are balanced forces in the world that will, with more consultations, evolve more correct positions.

11.Being members of the UN, we are bound by the Resolution that was passed, however rush the process. Nevertheless, there is a mechanism for review. The Western countries, which are most active in these rush actions, should look at that route. It may be one way of extricating all of us from possible nasty complications. What if the Libyans loyal to Gaddafi decide to fight on? Using tanks and planes that are easily targeted by Mr. Sarkozy’s planes is not the only way of fighting. Who will be responsible for such a protracted war? It is high time we did more careful thinking.

Yoweri K. Museveni
PRESIDENT
20th March 2011
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japo watachukia lakini Bora Museveni umekuwa muwazi na mkweli kabisa.
 
Romancing the Dictators

For years, a number of black leaders have paid homage to Muammar Qaddafi and other ruthless African heads of state. They should be ashamed.

  • By: Jack White | Posted: February 28, 2011 at 12:19 AM
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It's one thing to give a pass to Beyoncé, Usher and Mariah Carey for shaking their booties in exchange for big bucks from the thuggish sons of Libyan dictator Col. Muammar Qaddafi. As my colleague Jenée Desmond-Harris points out on The Root, they aren't foreign policy experts, and some never made it through college. They may not have known any better.
But you can't say that about the so-called black leaders who should have set a better moral example by steering clear of murderous despots like Qaddafi, whose malicious mischief over the years has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Africans. Instead, some of our most prominent figures have cultivated relationships with brutish regimes in Africa, sometimes in the hope of a big payoff.
During the 1970s, for example, Roy Innis, head of the moribund Congress of Racial Equality, actually strove to drum up support for Idi Amin, the butcher of Uganda, who was responsible for at least 300,000 deaths. Innis declared that "Ugandans are happy under General Amin's rule of Africa for black Africans" and honored the tyrant with a lifetime membership in his organization. (Coincidentally, Qaddafi sent thousands of Libyan troops to Uganda in an unsuccessful attempt to defend Amin from an invading Tanzanian army that finally overthrew him.)
Then there was the Rev. Jesse Jackson's 1993 trip to Nigeria, during which he lavished praise on military dictator Gen. Ibrahim Babangida as "one of the great leader-servants of the modern world in our time." This, I once observed in a story for Time magazine, was the same Babangida who had ruthlessly suppressed political opponents, closed down independent newspapers, and allowed his country to become a major transshipment point for heroin and other illegal drugs to which millions of U.S. citizens are addicted. Was it a coincidence that after that effusive outburst, Babingida provided Jackson with a Nigerian Airways jet for a tour of southern Africa and encouraged his cronies to contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to Jackson's causes in the U.S.?
Three years later, then-U.S. Sen. Carol Moseley Braun made her own sentimental visit to Nigeria -- where she declared that strongman Gen. Sani Abacha, a far more vicious autocrat than Babangida, had been misunderstood and unfairly castigated by the press. This was the same Abacha who, among other crimes too numerous to list, orchestrated the execution of playwright and environmental activist Ken Saro-Wiwa on transparently trumped-up charges. Braun at least had the decency to subsequently admit that her visit and remarks had been a mistake and apologized for it.
Not so for Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has never expressed a trace of remorse for his decades-long romance of Qaddafi. The same year that Braun dropped in on Abacha, Farrakhan paid a visit during one stop on a whirlwind tour of tyrants. In addition to Abacha, whom he grandiloquently likened to Moses, Farrakhan praised the government of Sudan -- which was then engaged (with Libyan support) in slaughtering thousands of people in a long-running civil war -- for its "wise Islamic leadership." He then moved on to Iran -- where he promised to help overthrow the "Great Satan," as the U.S. is known locally -- and Iraq, where he voiced support for Saddam Hussein's fight against U.N. economic sanctions
The clearest example was the praise he lavished on Qaddafi on a stop in Tripoli, in exchange for which the Libyan dictator lavished him with a $250,000 human rights award and a promise of a $1 billion gift for his organization. Sadly for Farrakhan, the U.S. government would not allow him to accept either sum.
At the time of Farrakhan's visit, Qaddafi was up to serious bad business in West Africa, where his protégés -- Liberian President Charles Taylor and his ally, Sierra Leonean rebel Foday Sankoh -- had instigated civil wars that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. Both Taylor and Sankoh -- whose trademark tactic was to hack off the hands, arms and feet of his countrymen -- had been trained, equipped and funded at Qaddafi's insurgency camps before being dispatched back to their countries. Qaddafi had blood all over his hands.
Qaddafi's deep involvement in the genocidal conflicts in Liberia and Sierra Leone was no secret at the time of Farrakhan's visit. Since then, the evidence of his culpability has been front-page news as Taylor stands trial for human rights in an international court.
You would think by now, with Qaddafi's savage crew of militiamen and mercenaries mowing down revolutionaries in the streets, that Farrakhan would have second thoughts about his flirtations with a mass murderer -- but so far neither he nor his organization's newspaper, Final Call, has uttered a peep on the issue.
With examples like this, it's no wonder that ignorant entertainers have few qualms about accepting bloodstained dollars in exchange for their services. They're only doing what some of their leaders have done.
Jack White is a frequent contributor to The Root.
 
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Nina uhakika serikali ya Gaddafi ingesitisha mashambuli kwa waasi kama walivyosema tusingekuwa hapa, mbona Saddam aliwekewa no fly zone (kaskazini kwa wakurd) na mambo yalienda vizuri tu kwa sababu aliacha kuwashambulia.

AU na Arab league walikuwa na mwezi mzima wa kuresolve hii isse, hayo maandamano ya Libya yameanza katikati ya February, March 1st Arab League wakaanza kuomba international community iingilie kati kwa kuweka No Fly Zone, kipindi icho US and Co wakawa wemeanza kufreeze mali za Gaddafi na familia yake, Mpaka hapo AU wamekaa kimya kama hakuna kinachoendelea, sababu Gaddafi ni mfadhili wao?

Mkuu.
Mambo yalienda vizuri tu kwa saddam kama yanavyoenda kwa Gaddaffi?
Vile kwa nini walimpiga saddam na kumnyonga au ndio uzuri wenyewe huo, mkuu?

Halafu mkuu, unachanganya hoja hapa. Mimi hoja yangu sio kumtetea Gaddaffi bali ni kupinga unafiki wa US, France na UK katika hii move...kwa sababu ziko nchi au mizozo ya muda mrefu kuliko huu wa Libya lakini hakuna aliyedraft resolution wala kuchukua hatua.

Wewe una-urgue na mimi kama vile mimi ninamtetea Gaddaffi.
Je wewe unakataa kuwa US,France na UK ni wanafiki? Je hawafumbii macho mizozo mengine ambayo watu wengi wasio na hatia wanauawa?
Je zenyewe US, na West hawaui raia wasio na hatia Iraq na Afghanistan?
nani ataziadhibu au kuzipeleka the Hague nchi hizi zinapofanya uvunjaji wa haki za binadamu?

Mkuu. Lini international community imeanza ku-support waasi?
Mkuu, waandamanaji wenye silaha ni waandamanaji au waasi, je kuna serikali yoyote inayocheka na waasi?
 
Umesahau kuongezea tano kuwa wengi wa hao viongozi wanafadhiliwa na Gaddafi vile vile, kumbuka mabenzi yale ya Ikulu na Wizara ya Mambo ya Nje kutoka kwa Gaddafi? Na misaada mingine ya kijamii na kidini mingi.
Mkuu.
Mimi sikusahau kuongezea ya tano.
Ila ni vizuri umejitokeza kuongezea hii ya tano.
nilizungumzia viongozi wengi wa nchi za kiafrika.wewe umejikita na mfano wa Tanzania na huo ujumbe wa mwisho wenyewe watakuwa wamekuelewa.
Kama mkuu hukuwa na nia ya kuamsha malumbano basi mchango wako wala usingekuja kwa style ya kuwa umesahau ya tano..lakini nimekuelewa. kwa kukumbusha tu mimi niliandika hivi ,nisome hapo chini ,sasa ya tano nilisahau wapi? au kivipi?

Mkuu.
Viongozi wetu wengi wa Afrika ni 10% type.
Pili wengi wanabaki madarakani kwa wizi wa kura.
Tatu, wanapopata hiyo 10% wanaificha katika mabenki ya mataifa ya West na kwa hiyo siri zao zinajuulika vyema na serikali za nchi hizo. Ndio sababu huwa rahisi kurubuniwa.
Nne, Bajeti za nchi nyingi ingawa zina utajiri wa rasilimali za asili lakini zinategemea ufadhili na misaada ya West na US.
Last but not least, wameingiwa na woga, wasiwasi na kiwewe. Hawajijui wala hawajitambui wanaogopa hii njia mpya ya Maandamano ya kudai haki katika nchi, pia hawajui nani atakuwa target baada ya Gaddaffi.

Nchi za Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Oman, Syria zinashuhudia maandamano na Yemen inaoneka ndio inafuata baada ya Libya. Wanapoangalia manuari za kivita za West na US na ndege za kivita zinavyomwaga mabomu kama mvua za masika basi wakuu wetu wako taabani. Wengine nafikiri wanavaa diapers!!

sisi wengine tunafurahia ,tunacheka kwa kuletewa demokrasi na west na US. Wengine tunaposema hawa West na US hawana kawaida ya kutetea maslahi ya wananchi wa nchi wanazozilenga ni mbinu tu ya kupandikiza "watumishi wao". Ukisema hivi unaambiwa unamsapoti Gaddaffi.

kwa vile wengi wa wanachi tuko usingizini basi kwa nguvu za kijeshi walizonazo hawa waharibifu wa dunia, wanarudi tena kwa aina mpya kujigawia Afrika na mataifa ya dunia ya tatu vile wapendavyo....tukae mkao wa kuliwa.
 
Mkuu.
Mimi sikusahau kuongezea ya tano.
Ila ni vizuri umejitokeza kuongezea hii ya tano.
nilizungumzia viongozi wengi wa nchi za kiafrika.wewe umejikita na mfano wa Tanzania na huo ujumbe wa mwisho wenyewe watakuwa wamekuelewa.
Kama mkuu hukuwa na nia ya kuamsha malumbano basi mchango wako wala usingekuja kwa style ya kuwa umesahau ya tano..lakini nimekuelewa. kwa kukumbusha tu mimi niliandika hivi ,nisome hapo chini ,sasa ya tano nilisahau wapi? au kivipi?
Kama hukusahau basi ulifanya makusudi kuacha kuongezea kuwa Gaddafi anazisaidia nchi nyingi tu za kiafrika, ndio maana na mimi nikakupa na mifano ya baadhi ya misaada ambayo Gaddafi aliipa serikali ya Tanzania.
 
Wakuu.
Wasikilizeni wamarekani wenyewe juu ya serikali yao kwenda kulinda raia wasiuliwe na Gaddaffi.


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Kama hukusahau basi ulifanya makusudi kuacha kuongezea kuwa Gaddafi anazisaidia nchi nyingi tu za kiafrika, ndio maana na mimi nikakupa na mifano ya baadhi ya misaada ambayo Gaddafi aliipa serikali ya Tanzania.

Mkuu Eqlypz
Ona hiki kipande cha mlimbwa1977 halafu wewe jaribu kuchangia, tuone utachangia vipi? mimi nilichangia hapo chini. sasa fanya uungwana kuchangia hapo.Usijaribu kupindisha mambo. kwa sababu mimi sioni uhusiano wa mchango wangu na hiyo "umesahau ya tano"

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Uingereza mbona wanaogozwa na malkia?

Viongozi wa Afrika mbona mpo kimya? Baada ya Libya mnadhani nanyi mtakuwa salama? Inasikitisha sana viongozi wa Afrika kuendekeza kuwa ombaomba tu kwa hao Wamarekani,kufikiri kwenu kumefikia mwisho?

Waungwana nanyi toeni mawazo yenu nini kifanyike ili viongozi wa Afrika wabadilike na kuchukua hatua dhidi ya wakoloni hawa!



Mkuu.
Viongozi wetu wengi wa Afrika ni 10% type.
Pili wengi wanabaki madarakani kwa wizi wa kura.
Tatu, wanapopata hiyo 10% wanaificha katika mabenki ya mataifa ya West na kwa hiyo siri zao zinajuulika vyema na serikali za nchi hizo. Ndio sababu huwa rahisi kurubuniwa.
Nne, Bajeti za nchi nyingi ingawa zina utajiri wa rasilimali za asili lakini zinategemea ufadhili na misaada ya West na US.
Last but not least, wameingiwa na woga, wasiwasi na kiwewe. Hawajijui wala hawajitambui wanaogopa hii njia mpya ya Maandamano ya kudai haki katika nchi, pia hawajui nani atakuwa target baada ya Gaddaffi.

Nchi za Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Oman, Syria zinashuhudia maandamano na Yemen inaoneka ndio inafuata baada ya Libya. Wanapoangalia manuari za kivita za West na US na ndege za kivita zinavyomwaga mabomu kama mvua za masika basi wakuu wetu wako taabani. Wengine nafikiri wanavaa diapers!!

sisi wengine tunafurahia ,tunacheka kwa kuletewa demokrasi na west na US. Wengine tunaposema hawa West na US hawana kawaida ya kutetea maslahi ya wananchi wa nchi wanazozilenga ni mbinu tu ya kupandikiza "watumishi wao". Ukisema hivi unaambiwa unamsapoti Gaddaffi.

kwa vile wengi wa wanachi tuko usingizini basi kwa nguvu za kijeshi walizonazo hawa waharibifu wa dunia, wanarudi tena kwa aina mpya kujigawia Afrika na mataifa ya dunia ya tatu vile wapendavyo....tukae mkao wa kuliwa.
 
Mkuu.
Mambo yalienda vizuri tu kwa saddam kama yanavyoenda kwa Gaddaffi?
Vile kwa nini walimpiga saddam na kumnyonga au ndio uzuri wenyewe huo, mkuu?
mambo yalikuwa shwari kwa sababu serikali ya Saddam iliacha kuwashambulia wakurd baada ya Gulf War 1. Unajua Chemical Ali alipewa ilo jina kwa sababu gani?

Halafu mkuu, unachanganya hoja hapa. Mimi hoja yangu sio kumtetea Gaddaffi bali ni kupinga unafiki wa US, France na UK katika hii move...kwa sababu ziko nchi au mizozo ya muda mrefu kuliko huu wa Libya lakini hakuna aliyedraft resolution wala kuchukua hatua.
Sio kuchanganya hoja, sasa hapa unauliza kwa nini Western Countries haziingili zikiingilia unasema kwa nini zinaingilia mambo ya nchi binafsi chagua moja unataka zifanye nini?
By the way UN ina zaidi ya wanachama 200, inamaana hizo nchi nyingine hazioni kinachoendelea dunia au haziwezi kudraft hizo resolution mpaka US and Co zifanye?


Wewe una-urgue na mimi kama vile mimi ninamtetea Gaddaffi.
Je wewe unakataa kuwa US,France na UK ni wanafiki? Je hawafumbii macho mizozo mengine ambayo watu wengi wasio na hatia wanauawa?
Je zenyewe US, na West hawaui raia wasio na hatia Iraq na Afghanistan?
nani ataziadhibu au kuzipeleka the Hague nchi hizi zinapofanya uvunjaji wa haki za binadamu?
Kila nchi ina unafiki wake, kuanzia hao US mpaka sisi Tanzania.


Mkuu. Lini international community imeanza ku-support waasi?
Mkuu, waandamanaji wenye silaha ni waandamanaji au waasi, je kuna serikali yoyote inayocheka na waasi?
Swali zuri sana, nchi nyingi tu zinasupport waasi ili kulinda maslahi yao. Heck our beloved Tanzania ilikuwa kinara wa ku-support waasi.

Ndio maana ukisoma posts zangu zote nimewaita rebels, hizo silaha wameanza kuzibeba kwa ajili ya kujilinda baada ya wanajeshi na polisi wa serikali kuanza kuwashambulia mercilessly ili wasiandamane. Hivi wale wananchi wa Arusha wangeamua kushika silaha baada ya kushambuliwa na polisi kwa risasi za moto ungewalaumu?
 
mambo yalikuwa shwari kwa sababu serikali ya Saddam iliacha kuwashambulia wakurd baada ya Gulf War 1.

Halafu Saddam alifanya nini mpaka ikaja Gulf War 2 kama mambo yalikuwa shwari?

Sio kuchanganya hoja, sasa hapa unauliza kwa nini Western Countries haziingili zikiingilia unasema kwa nini zinaingilia mambo ya nchi binafsi chagua moja unataka zifanye nini?

Mkuu hapa sio kwamba mimi nichague moja. Hiyo mizozo iliyoanza mwanzo kabla ya huu wa Libya ipo. sasa hoja ni kuwa je kwa nini wamechagua kwenda Libya na kuiacha ile mengine inaendelea?
Swali zuri sana, nchi nyingi tu zinasupport waasi ili kulinda maslahi yao. Heck our beloved Tanzania ilikuwa kinara wa ku-support waasi.
Mkuu.
suali hukulielewa. lilikuwa hivi, Lini international community ika-support waasi katika scale hii tunayoiona Libya.
Wewe umejibu kwa nchi moja moja, hata hizo nchi moja moja huwa wanatoa fedha na vifaa, sio kama hivi nchi babe , zenye nguvu kwa pamoja mbali na kupeleka misaada ya kifedha na silaha lakini pia ndege zao za kivita, manowari zao zinashiriki moja kwa moja kupiga upande mmoja na kuruhusu upande wanaotaka ushinde ufanye unavyotaka.

Vizuri kuwa umekubali kuwa US, France na UK ni wanafiki. ingawaje umependa kunakishi jibu lako kwa kusema pia Tanzania ni nchi nafiki. Hilo mimi pia nalikubali.
kama ninavyokubali mtu akisema rais wa Tanzania anafanya unafiki kwenda Ivory Coast kumtaka Bagbo aachie madaraka. Bagbo yes aondoke lakini Mkuu wetu kwa namna yeye mwenyewe alivyobaki madarakani amepoteza moral authority ya kumtaka Bagbo aondoke. Angetokea rais wa Ghana au Botswana kumwambia Bagbo hivyo ingekuwa sawa.
 
Halafu Saddam alifanya nini mpaka ikaja Gulf War 2 kama mambo yalikuwa shwari?
Ilo jibu analo Bush na serikali yake iliyopita.

Mkuu hapa sio kwamba mimi nichague moja. Hiyo mizozo iliyoanza mwanzo kabla ya huu wa Libya ipo. sasa hoja ni kuwa je kwa nini wamechagua kwenda Libya na kuiacha ile mengine inaendelea?
Na kwenye hiyo mizozo kuna on going attempts za kusuluisha, mfano ni Ivory Coast (kamati ya kina Kikwete), Somalia (kuna majeshi ya AU by the way ilipitishwa na UN Security Council), Congo (Monusco).

Mkuu.
suali hukulielewa. lilikuwa hivi, Lini international community ika-support waasi katika scale hii tunayoiona Libya.
Wewe umejibu kwa nchi moja moja, hata hizo nchi moja moja huwa wanatoa fedha na vifaa, sio kama hivi nchi babe , zenye nguvu kwa pamoja mbali na kupeleka misaada ya kifedha na silaha lakini pia ndege zao za kivita, manowari zao zinashiriki moja kwa moja kupiga upande mmoja na kuruhusu upande wanaotaka ushinde ufanye unavyotaka.
Kukupa exact date siwezi kwa sababu haya mambo tumeyakuta na tutayaacha, lakini nimekupa mfano wa Tanzania ilivyoshirikiana na Angola, Zimbabwe, Uganda na Rwanda kumsaidia Laurent Kabila kumtoa Mobutu madarakani.

Vizuri kuwa umekubali kuwa US, France na UK ni wanafiki. ingawaje umependa kunakishi jibu lako kwa kusema pia Tanzania ni nchi nafiki. Hilo mimi pia nalikubali.
kama ninavyokubali mtu akisema rais wa Tanzania anafanya unafiki kwenda Ivory Coast kumtaka Bagbo aachie madaraka. Bagbo yes aondoke lakini Mkuu wetu kwa namna yeye mwenyewe alivyobaki madarakani amepoteza moral authority ya kumtaka Bagbo aondoke. Angetokea rais wa Ghana au Botswana kumwambia Bagbo hivyo ingekuwa sawa.
Hakuna la nyongeza.
 
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