AU's dilemna and the Libyan crisis

[Einstein]

PRAVDA_ARTICLE

Murderers! War criminals Cameron, Obama and Sarkozy launch terrorist attack
20.03.2011

The ink was still fresh on UN Resolution 1973, and the western (bought) media were already speaking about air strikes and how to help the rebels. Two mistakes here - firstly, that was not the scope of the document and secondly, why are President Obama and Prime Minister Cameron deliberately misquoting the words of Muammar Al-Qathafi?

NATO and terrorism are one and the same thing and the latest sickening display from this military wing of the oil lobby which gravitates around the White House makes it patently obvious that this evil force is endemically hell-bent upon a policy of violence to perpetrate greed. In Libya, NATO has got it monumentally wrong - again.

The ink was still fresh on UN Resolution 1973, and the western (bought) media were already speaking about air strikes and how to help the rebels. Two mistakes here - firstly, that was not the scope of the document and secondly, why are President Obama and Prime Minister Cameron deliberately misquoting the words of Muammar Al-Qathafi?

The Brotherly Leader of the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya had not sworn to show no mercy to the people of Benghazi - he had given the "rebels" (armed groups of thugs) a window in which to lay down their arms and had said hat he would show no mercy to those launching this armed uprising. He was not speaking about massacring civilians in Benghazi - many of his supporters there have already been murdered by the "rebels".

Is it legal or acceptable in France, Britain or the United States of America to take up arms, torch buildings, massacre unarmed civilians (the "rebels" did this in Benghazi) and commit acts of terrorism? No, neither is it in Libya.


The fact that President Obama and Prime Minister Cameron deliberately twisted the words of the Libyan statesman, misquoting him and taking them entirely out of context does nothing to foster the notion that they are either reasonable, or balanced, or competent to perform their roles. What they have done is to join President Sarkozy in committing an act of terrorism against Libya as NATO strikes against Africa and turns its might against the Arab world. The Crusade has begun, Libya is but the first stage.

The adage in Iraq was today a child, tomorrow a terrorist so blast his face off him, blast his limbs off him and destroy his family. That is why cluster bombs were dropped in civilian areas. Then the oil companies moved in. The adage in Libya seems to be protect the Libyan people by allying with Al-Qaeda, instigating revolt in the oil-rich endemically separatist area of Cyrenaica, Benghazi being its capital, installing a Washington-friendly regime...then the oil companies move in.

For the people of Libya, if the Great Plan works, gone will be the free housing, gone will be the excellent and free education system, gone will be the excellent and free healthcare, gone will be the tremendous social benefits distributed among the people. Libya will become the prostitute of the West, its resources raped as people on the fringes of Libyan society are placed in positions of power. Mark my words.

For the war mongerers Cameron, Obama and Sarkozy, a few questions. Did you know that in 1951, Libya was the poorest nation in the world? Did you know that today it has the highest human development indices in Africa? Have any of you three implemented free housing programmes in your countries? No, you have destroyed people's hopes by creating systems whereby people cannot afford to keep their homes.

Have any of you implemented free healthcare schemes? No you have turned healthcare into a business. Do any of you distribute land for free and donate agricultural equipment for free? No, you impose tariffs on imports from poor countries and give subsidies to your own farmers, while pretending to follow the precepts of the WTO.

How do you justify the attacks on civilian targets in last night's raids? These are war crimes. Did you know that three medical facilities were hit? What kind of "dictator" distributes arms to a million citizens? Where is the no-fly zone over Bahrain and Yemen, where unarmed civilians are being slaughtered by your friends?

And now for Mr. Cameron. Have you bothered to explain to your people, as they are faced with your savage, barbaric and inhumane attack on British society by your ludicrous and totally unnecessary public spending cuts, how much it costs to take part in this unfettered act of terrorism? Then I will inform you the cost per aircraft per day is in the region of 200.000 GBP. That is 35.000 to 50.000 GBP per flying hour per aircraft - of your taxpayers' money. How do you justify spending that kind of money bombing hospitals, when you cut the spending for your National Health Service?

So much for your public spending cuts.

Now for the truth: The "rebellion" in Libya is based around Islamic fundamentalists in the historically separatist hotspot of Benghazi. The Libyans call them "the bearded ones". The "rebellion" has been instigated by the West. It failed, and when the military forces of Colonel Al-Qathafi won the initiative, they panicked. They refused the Russian-sponsored resolution of a ceasefire and they tried to push through a Resolution allowing a full-scale military invasion.

When that was quashed by Russia, China, India, Brazil and Germany, all they got was a no-fly zone and permission to use military force to protect civilians. But the Libyan authorities are not fighting "civilians". They, like the West, are fighting Islamic terrorists.

And Presidents Obama and Sarkozy and Prime Minister Cameron have the murders of 64 people on their hands. These men are responsible for the indiscriminate use of military resources against civilian targets in Libya, including allegedly three medical facilities, outside the scope of the UN Resolution. Ladies and gentlemen, Cameron, Obama and Sarkozy are responsible for war crimes.

 

[Marytina]

Thanks God for making Sarkozy the France prezdaa,
Sarkozy, Obama and Cameroon are exercising the UN-no fly zone azimio ambalo lilitanguliwa na ombi la Arab league na uhalali wa kisheria.

Tanzania (Kikwete and Membe)nao walitekeleza hilihili (Azimio la AU kwa wakati huo)wakapeleka majeshi Commoro.

Basi tuilaumu Tanzania kwa kutekeleza azimio la ukanda AU kabla hatujalaumu Sarkozy kutekeleza azimio la UN

 

[housta]

nimekuja amini kuwa kuna baadhi ya waafrika wana mambo ya ajabu. nikuulize ni wananchi gani wanauliwa je hao wanauliwa wamafenya kosa gani na je wanadai nini?

long live gaddafi fungulia maghala watu wachukue silaha wapambaje na wavamizi

I don't have anything against Gaddafi but if it is true then he must stop.What pisses me off is this thing called UN.Who gave these countries the mandate to attack Libya?If the idea is to remove Gaddafi,how come people are getting killed by their strikes?!Okay,people here might say those are casualties of war,then how come these Western leaders aren't being charged at the ICC?

I think people of Libya should be left alone to decide whom they want to lead them.Look at Iraq.When Saddam was there Iraq was peaceful and there was no such thing called 'Insurgents' but when the US and her allies attacked Iraq,things changed and now Iraq will never be the same again.Afghanistan is another example.

These people are after their interests and yet kwa ujinga wetu tunadhani tunasaidiwa.Just recall Obama's speech '....America is acting to protect its interests...'.Do we know these interests?Do they want Gaddafi forces to allow the rebels to attack them and not attack back because of the UN resolution?what kind of stupid idea is that?And who gave these countries to choose whom they want to lead us?and how come they waited until all their citizens are out of Libya then they started bombing Gaddafi forces?If it is about fair play,evacuate Libyans as well then do what they are doing.

 

[Najijua]

Nashindwa kuelewa tatizo ni mtu kukaa muda mrefu au tatizo ni kuketa maendeleo kwa taifa lake???????Mbona mzee Gaddafi amefanya makubwa kuliko Tanzania yetu yeneye resources za kutosha kuliko sisi?

Nadhani tuache ushabiki wa magharibi kutaka kuondoa watu wasiokuwa katika ngome yao na kulipiza kisasi kwa vibaraka wao walivyo ondolewa, anachokifanya Gaddafi ni kuwaadhibu wasaliti, tufikirie na kukumbuka Afaghanistani na Iraq walipoingia kwa nguvu mpaka leo hakutawaliki huko, tufikiri mara mbili na kusoma historia kabla ya ku comment
nawasilisha

 

[Quinine]

Sikutegemea kukuta waafrika wanaendelea kushangilia kinachotokea libya sasa hv bali walipswa kusikitika na kuonamisha vichwa chini wakilia, mnampongeza obamana sirkozy shame on you! Hamuoni ni jinsi gani wao kwa mashambulio ya siku moja tu wameua raia 64 na majeruhi zaid 100 sasa anaeua raia ni nani gaddafi au wamarekani? Af unadiriki kusema wazi kuwa raia hawamtaki gaddafi ni asilimia ngapi ya raia wote wasiomtaka gaddafi au ni kikundi cha watu wachache wenye uchu na madaraka wanaosapotiwa na wamagharibi ndo hawamtaki gaddafi, eti wanalinda raia, mbona palestina kila kukicha israeli anawauwa watu haendi huko kwalinda, miaka mingapi leo somalia watu wanakufa mbona haendi huko, mbona kongo watu wanakufa haendi huko, vp kuhusu bahrain ambako serikali inawaua waandamanaji na sio waasi na wala hausikii wakisemwa hata kwa maneno nini kupigwa na majeshi, acheni kuwa na fikra finyu huku mkijisifia kuwa wananchama wa jf kisima cha fikra pevu, MKIENDELEA kuwa na mawazo mgando kama hayo hamna haja hata ya kuwepo humu jf ni bora mkaangalie utaratibu mwingine lakini katika hili la libya western countries wana ajenda ya siri kubwa tu nyuma yao ambayo kwa kifupi ni strategic reason.

Mwambie hata Kikwete na Shimbo wajaribu kutumia fighter jet kuwashambulia raia wa Mwanza aone cha mtema kuni, haiingii akilini kiongozi kutumia mizinga na vifaru midege kuwashambulia wananchi walio na manati tu shame on you Gaddafi and those who support this kind of stupid stuff.

 

[Ntemi Kazwile]

Nashindwa kuelewa tatizo ni mtu kukaa muda mrefu au tatizo ni kuketa maendeleo kwa taifa lake???????Mbona mzee Gaddafi amefanya makubwa kuliko Tanzania yetu yeneye resources za kutosha kuliko sisi?

Nadhani tuache ushabiki wa magharibi kutaka kuondoa watu wasiokuwa katika ngome yao na kulipiza kisasi kwa vibaraka wao walivyo ondolewa, anachokifanya Gaddafi ni kuwaadhibu wasaliti, tufikirie na kukumbuka Afaghanistani na Iraq walipoingia kwa nguvu mpaka leo hakutawaliki huko, tufikiri mara mbili na kusoma historia kabla ya ku comment
nawasilisha

Tatizo wala siyo kuleta maendeleo, wala kukaa muda mrefu madarakani.... Tatizo ni kuwaruhusu watu kuchagua viongozi wanaowataka siyo kwa viongozi kulazimisha kukaa madarakani na kuwarithisha watoto na wajukuu wao uongozi wa nchi zao. Hizi ni nchi zetu sote, hizi ni mbio za kupokezana vijiti, na tushiriki wote kuhakikisha tunapata maisha bora na si kwa wachache wetu kujitwika majukumu ya kuteletea maendeleo na wasitake tuwaulize. Kusema kuwa Gadafi amewaletea maendeleo bila kujua rasilimali alizo nazo ni kutupumbaza, Libya ni nchi tajiri na raia wake wana haki ya kuwa na maisha bora, kama amefanya hivyo huu ulikuwa wajibu wake na asitake tumpongeze kwa kutimiza wajibu wake!

 

[Marytina]

The Anjouan will shortly face a joint Comoros-African Union military assault as about 500 troops from Tanzania are deploying in the Indian Ocean's archipelago to help the government regain control of the rebel island. More troops are expected

Comoros' top military official said last month Tanzania,Sudan and Senegal were expected to provide a total of 750 troops, while Libya has offered logistical support for the operation.

The United States was last week the latest nation to pledge support for military intervention on Comoros. With a population of some 700,000 people, it has witnessed at least a dozen coups or attempts since independence from France in 1975.
Source:African news.com

Kama ufaransa na washirika wanaingilia mambo ya ndani ya libya kama AU wanavyosema hapa Tanzania ilifanya nini?Libya je? NB:sudan+senegal haikupeleka wanajeshi.

Mlaumuni JK kuingilia mambo ya ndani ya nchi zingine (Commoro) kabla hamjamnyooshea kidole Sarkozy

 

[Tata]

Wamezuiwa kwa sababu za kiusalama, ila wao hawataki kusema. Kama wako serious si watumie magari.

Weeeeh hawajipendi?. Yale makombora hayana macho yanaweza kuteketeza magari yao pia.

 

[Kimbunga]

Aaah, Tanzania iliingilia kuzima uasi lakini Sarkozy na mabeberu wenzake wanaingilia kusaidia uasi!! Vitu viwili tofauti kaka. Japokuwa sikuunga mkono Tanzania kuingilia mambo ya ndani ya Comoro lakini kuna utofauti huo ambao inabidi uufahamu. Libya kuna uasi kama wa anjuan kwa hiyo nilitegemea Sarkozy na mibeberu mingine iingilie kuuzima lakini heee, wanataka kumuondoa Gadaffi!!

 

[Marytina]

Aaah, Tanzania iliingilia kuzima uasi lakini Sarkozy na mabeberu wenzake wanaingilia kusaidia uasi!! Vitu viwili tofauti kaka. Japokuwa sikuunga mkono Tanzania kuingilia mambo ya ndani ya Comoro lkn kuna utofauti huo ambao inabidi uufahamu. Libya kuna uasi kama wa anjuan kwa hiyo nilitegemea Sarkozy na mibeberu mingine iingilie kuuzima lakini heee, wanataka kumuondoa Gadaffi!!

Ishu ni kwamba wote Tanzania na US wameingilia mambo ya watu kwa kutaka kutanua democrasia.
Sisi Tanzania tulikuwa tunaimplement azimio la AU.

Akina sarkozy wameimplement azimio la UN hapo ubaya uko wapi?

Libya naye alitoa logistic support hence aliingilia mambo ya ndani ya nchi ingine.

 

[Tata]

I agree with you on the dubious selection criteria used by the west to dethrone dictators around the globe. But it seems their decisions revolve around availability of oil. I think they ultimately need oil to foot the bills of their expensive military operations. In my opinion all dictators deserve to go regardless of the means.

 

[Chief Isike]

Mahali pengine nimechangia nikauliza maswali kadhaa juu ya hali ya Libya; Labda naweza kupata msaada hapa wakuu...

Naona kuna tofauti 'kubwa' kati ya uprisings za TUNISIA + MISRI na hii ya LIBYA.

Siku chache mara baada tu ya kuibuka kwa uprising huko Libya kwa maandamano kukasikika kuwa kuna kikundi cha waasi...haikuwa hivyo huko Misri na Tunisia. Kule ilikuwa ni watu wamefanya maandamano 'people's power', kuziondoa serikali za kidikteta madarakani.

Sasa maswali yangu kwa nini waasi Libya? Wanafadhiliwa na nani, wameandaliwa lini na nani, nini concerns zao, wanahitaji zitimizwe lini, kwa nini, kwa namna gani...MOST CONTROVERSIAL ONE, KWA NINI WANAONEKANA KUPATA SUPPORT YA MATAIFA MAKUBWA YA NJE?

 

[Marytina]

Mahali pengine nimechangia nikauliza maswali kadhaa juu ya hali ya Libya; Labda naweza kupata msaada hapa wakuu...

Naona kuna tofauti 'kubwa' kati ya uprisings za TUNISIA + MISRI na hii ya LIBYA.

Siku chache mara baada tu ya kuibuka kwa uprising huko Libya kwa maandamano kukasikika kuwa kuna kikundi cha waasi...haikuwa hivyo huko Misri na Tunisia. Kule ilikuwa ni watu wamefanya maandamano 'people's power', kuziondoa serikali za kidikteta madarakani.

Sasa maswali yangu kwa nini waasi Libya? Wanafadhiliwa na nani, wameandaliwa lini na nani, nini concerns zao, wanahitaji zitimizwe lini, kwa nini, kwa namna gani...MOST CONTROVERSIAL ONE, KWA NINI WANAONEKANA KUPATA SUPPORT YA MATAIFA MAKUBWA YA NJE?

hizo ni hila za Gadaff kutafuta kusalia madarakani.
Mubaraka na Ben ALLI wangeweza kuwashambulia kwa jeshi waandamanaji na kuwabatiza waasi.

 

[PRIMA]

baada ya Gaddafi kuondoka madarakani nini kitafuata, tuangalie mfano wa Iraq.......
I was just passing.

 

[Kimbunga]

Jamani Comoro kulikuwa na uasi. Hukubali kuwa Libya pia kuna uasi au?

 

[Jakubumba]

Good move, ukilingansha maisha ya Tanzania na Libya utashangaa kwwa nini wanaandamana huku wana kila kitu. Lakini watanzania tunatanguliza amani kuliko maisha bora. Ipo siku nasi tutasisimuka na kuijenga Tanzania mpya.

 

[Kimbunga]

Mahali pengine nimechangia nikauliza maswali kadhaa juu ya hali ya Libya; Labda naweza kupata msaada hapa wakuu...

Naona kuna tofauti 'kubwa' kati ya uprisings za TUNISIA + MISRI na hii ya LIBYA.

Siku chache mara baada tu ya kuibuka kwa uprising huko Libya kwa maandamano kukasikika kuwa kuna kikundi cha waasi...haikuwa hivyo huko Misri na Tunisia. Kule ilikuwa ni watu wamefanya maandamano 'people's power', kuziondoa serikali za kidikteta madarakani.

Sasa maswali yangu kwa nini waasi Libya? Wanafadhiliwa na nani, wameandaliwa lini na nani, nini concerns zao, wanahitaji zitimizwe lini, kwa nini, kwa namna gani...MOST CONTROVERSIAL ONE, KWA NINI WANAONEKANA KUPATA SUPPORT YA MATAIFA MAKUBWA YA NJE?

Kaka acha hizo ni hila za mabeberu. Waandamanaji waliandamana wakateka mji wa Benghazi na wakawa na silaha wanajitenga, hiyo si sahihi. Gadafi alikuwa napigana na waasi si wandamanaji. Watu hawataki kuelewa hili. Hawataki kuongelea jinsi helkopita za Uingereza zilivyoenda kwa siri huko Benghazi, zilipeleka nini? Hakuna majibu. Miye nawaona marekani na wenzake ni mabeberu tu hawana lolote. Marekani imeua mamilioni Iraq na Afghanistan wanataka kuingia Afrrica pia waue. Sipendi mabeberu

 

[Observer2010]

Aaah, Tanzania iliingilia kuzima uasi lakini Sarkozy na mabeberu wenzake wanaingilia kusaidia uasi!! Vitu viwili tofauti kaka. Japokuwa sikuunga mkono Tanzania kuingilia mambo ya ndani ya Comoro lkn kuna utofauti huo ambao inabidi uufahamu. Libya kuna uasi kama wa anjuan kwa hiyo nilitegemea Sarkozy na mibeberu mingine iingilie kuuzima lakini heee, wanataka kumuondoa Gadaffi!!

Unapozungumza uasi kwa kawaida ni lazima uwe na reference, hapa namaanisha ya kwamba wanaomuunga mkono Ghaddafi wanaona hao wengine ni waasi, the same kwa wasiomuunga mkono Ghaddafi wanaona Ghaddafi ni muasi. So suala la uasi lina reference, hivyo inategemea upo upande gani. All in all miaka 41 madarakani ni more than enough, ni suala la msingi kwa yeye kuruhusu demokrasia ifuate mkondo wake. Kukaa madarakani muda mrefu huwa kunalemaza, angalia tu mfano wa CCM, baada ya kuwa madarakani kwa miaka mingi kinachofuata ni kuwa na mazoea, na ndio maana unasikia kauli za dharau na kejeli toka kwa viongozi, hii ndio inaitwa kulewa madaraka. Watoto wa Ghaddafi walifikia stage ya kuwaita wanamuziki mastar kwenye tafrija zisizo na mantiki kama birthday na kuwalipa mamilioni ya dola while hao wanamuziki wakiperform kwa dakika chache zisizozidi hata saa moja, huku ndio kulewa madaraka. Kama kweli anaipenda Libya na wananchi wake kwanini asitoke madarakani na kuruhusu wengine waongoze ?

 

[Observer2010]

baada ya Gaddafi kuondoka madarakani nini kitafuata, tuangalie mfano wa Iraq.......
I was just passing.

Kwani Egypt na Tunisia nini kimefuata ?

 

[Viper]

The Anjouan will shortly face a joint Comoros-African Union military assault as about 500 troops from Tanzania are deploying in the Indian Ocean's archipelago to help the government regain control of the rebel island. More troops are expected

Comoros' top military official said last month Tanzania,Sudan and Senegal were expected to provide a total of 750 troops, while Libya has offered logistical support for the operation.

The United States was last week the latest nation to pledge support for military intervention on Comoros. With a population of some 700,000 people, it has witnessed at least a dozen coups or attempts since independence from France in 1975.
Source:African news.com

Kama ufaransa na washirika wanaingilia mambo ya ndani ya libya kama AU wanavyosema hapa Tanzania ilifanya nini?Libya je? NB:sudan+senegal haikupeleka wanajeshi.

Mlaumuni JK kuingilia mambo ya ndani ya nchi zingine (Commoro) kabla hamjamnyooshea kidole Sarkozy

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