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Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread
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Crystal Palace 'ready to sell Wilfried Zaha for just £30m' this summer
Manchester United and Chelsea have been given a boost in their pursuit of Wilfried Zaha this summer with Crystal Palace reportedly willing to accept offers of £30million.
Zaha was the subject of major interest from Arsenal last summer but a move failed to materialise and he proved to be Palace's star man again this season, helping Roy Hodgson's side to top-flight safety.
In an exclusive interview with Sportsmail last year, Zaha made no secret of his desire to quit Selhurst Park but moves to the Emirates and Everton broke down due to Palace's £80m asking price.
But, according to The Sun, the Eagles are prepared to accept they will only be able to get around £30m for Zaha in the current climate.
The 27-year-old still wants to leave Selhurst Park this summer and Palace are believed to be willing to sell so Roy Hodgson can invest in his squad this summer.
Despite the reduced fee, it is claimed there have been no concrete offers for Zaha yet but Chelsea and United are said to be keen.
Zaha earns around £130,000 a week and will turn 28 in November, which is said to be putting potential suitors off paying Palace's previous asking price.
Arsenal were very keen on Zaha last summer but opted to buy Nicolas Pepe from Lille instead.
However, the emergence of Bukayo Saka this season, and the need to strengthen other areas of Mikel Arteta's squad, means they are no longer interested.
Despite only four goals and five assists this season, clubs at home and from across the continent are expected to come back in for Zaha this summer.
Everton, it is understood, retain an interest in the attacker; while Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich are known to be monitoring Zaha's situation.
Manchester United and Chelsea have been given a boost in their pursuit of Wilfried Zaha this summer with Crystal Palace reportedly willing to accept offers of £30million.
Zaha was the subject of major interest from Arsenal last summer but a move failed to materialise and he proved to be Palace's star man again this season, helping Roy Hodgson's side to top-flight safety.
In an exclusive interview with Sportsmail last year, Zaha made no secret of his desire to quit Selhurst Park but moves to the Emirates and Everton broke down due to Palace's £80m asking price.
But, according to The Sun, the Eagles are prepared to accept they will only be able to get around £30m for Zaha in the current climate.
The 27-year-old still wants to leave Selhurst Park this summer and Palace are believed to be willing to sell so Roy Hodgson can invest in his squad this summer.
Despite the reduced fee, it is claimed there have been no concrete offers for Zaha yet but Chelsea and United are said to be keen.
Zaha earns around £130,000 a week and will turn 28 in November, which is said to be putting potential suitors off paying Palace's previous asking price.
Arsenal were very keen on Zaha last summer but opted to buy Nicolas Pepe from Lille instead.
However, the emergence of Bukayo Saka this season, and the need to strengthen other areas of Mikel Arteta's squad, means they are no longer interested.
Despite only four goals and five assists this season, clubs at home and from across the continent are expected to come back in for Zaha this summer.
Everton, it is understood, retain an interest in the attacker; while Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich are known to be monitoring Zaha's situation.
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Where Arsenal stand on Coutinho transfer amid cut-price fee & Mikel Arteta plans
When Philippe Coutinho left Liverpool to join Barcelona in January 2018, it was seen as his next great step.
Instead, his career has gone backwards. Badly.
The Brazilian’s Anfield exit saw him depart before Liverpool conquered Europe and then the Premier League, while he was dumped by Barca after just 18 months, packed off on loan to Bayern Munich.
His bid to revitalise his career in Bavaria didn’t really work out, a fine hat-trick against Wolfsburg apart he struggled to impose himself and ultimately found himself as a bit-part player as Hansi Flick’s men romped to the title.
He remains with Bayern until the end of the Champions League, when they will send him back to Barcelona. He remains however unwanted at Camp Nou, with the Catalans looking to get him off their books once more.
Ideally they would like to recoup a decent portion of their exorbitant £130-million plus outlay; instead they look like having to settle for a loan and paying a portion of his salary once more unless something more creative can be managed.
Coutinho himself wants to return to the Premier League and would ideally like to remain in the Champions League.
However, there simply aren’t the landing spots for him, with none of the top four - Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United nor Chelsea - keen on taking him.
As such, with a Europa League spot booked, that’s where Arsenal come in.
Barcelona’s position
For Barca, Coutinho has been a bust. An ill fit, he was signed to replace Andres Iniesta but was quickly deemed unfit for purpose in central midfield by Ernesto Valverde. Moved onto the left side of the front three, it didn’t work either.
Amid financial issues, Barcelona want him gone, but understand that few clubs have the necessary finance to take him, and even fewer the desire.
Quique Setien has previously claimed that he was keen to work with Coutinho, but there really isn’t place for the Brazilian with Lionel Messi, Antoine Griezmann, Ousmane Dembele and a number of others around.
Kia Joorabchian’s comments and role.
“It's no secret he wants to come back to the Premier League,” Coutinho’s agent, Kia Joorabchian said at the end of July.
“It's still very much open. There is a lot of genuine interest.
“He loves playing in the Premier League, he is adored playing in the Premier League and that is one of his priorities.”
The agent has helped Coutinho navigate his career thus far and is a key reason for Arsenal being in the running. He is close to technical director Edu - although, as the club is keen to stress, is not his agent nor advisor - and the Gunners have moved away from a more analytical approach to one more reliant on ‘who you know’.
Arsenal’s spending power and Coutinho’s wages
The Brazilian earns around £9million per year in Catalunya. To take him on loan last season, Bayern paid around £10million in a loan fee and then took his salary on board.
Money is expected to be tight this summer at the Emirates, even allowing for Europa League qualification after the FA Cup triumph.
Given the desire of Mikel Arteta to strengthen elsewhere - notably further back in midfield with Thomas Partey and Dani Ceballos, as well as in defence - and the need to give Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang a new deal, Coutinho isn’t the No.1 target. Especially if it’s going to eat a big chunk out of the budget. If they can move on Mesut Ozil, that will help.
Swap with Matteo Guendouzi?
A deal that has been mooted and could work for all sides.
It would see Matteo Guendouzi, currently an outcast after failing to live up to Arteta’s demands and leaving the Spaniard unhappy with his attitude, head to Spain along with £9million, with Coutinho coming the other way.
It works for Barca, as it gets rid of Coutinho’s salary off their books and gives them a young talent who, even if it doesn’t work out, could be sold on for a fee in excess of £20million.
It works for Coutinho as it gets him his move away, allowing him to put down roots once more and focus on the present, rather than worrying about the future.
And it helps Arsenal move out someone the manager wants rid of, while bringing in an undoubted talent at a pretty cut-price rate.
Why would Mikel Arteta be keen?
You know who created more chances for Arsenal in the Premier League last season than anyone else? Mesut Ozil.
The German didn’t play after the season was paused in March due to coronavirus, but still ended the campaign - having made 23 appearances - as the side’s leading chance creator.
Asked about a lack of creativity in the build-up to the finale vs Watford, Arteta said: "They don’t lie, those stats. When you relate that to Arsenal it’s not good enough.”
If Arsenal are to challenge for the top four next term they simply need to improve in the final third. Aubameyang will take chances, but they need to make more.
How would he fit in?
Arteta initially showed a preference for 4-2-3-1, but has shown his pragmatism by winning the FA Cup playing with a 3-4-3/5-4-1 formation.
Having initially operated with Mesut Ozil as an outright No.10, that is no doubt a role Coutinho would see as ideal.
If not, much depends on Aubameyang's future, with the captain having been huge on the left side of attack since Arteta's arrival.
As Arteta seeks to build around the Gabonese, does he move him into a central position? If so, that frees up a role coming in off the left, where Coutinho often thrived at Liverpool, whether in a 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, or, in what many see as Arteta's long-term plan, a 4-3-3.
However, before then, there is still a long way to go.
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When Philippe Coutinho left Liverpool to join Barcelona in January 2018, it was seen as his next great step.
Instead, his career has gone backwards. Badly.
The Brazilian’s Anfield exit saw him depart before Liverpool conquered Europe and then the Premier League, while he was dumped by Barca after just 18 months, packed off on loan to Bayern Munich.
His bid to revitalise his career in Bavaria didn’t really work out, a fine hat-trick against Wolfsburg apart he struggled to impose himself and ultimately found himself as a bit-part player as Hansi Flick’s men romped to the title.
He remains with Bayern until the end of the Champions League, when they will send him back to Barcelona. He remains however unwanted at Camp Nou, with the Catalans looking to get him off their books once more.
Ideally they would like to recoup a decent portion of their exorbitant £130-million plus outlay; instead they look like having to settle for a loan and paying a portion of his salary once more unless something more creative can be managed.
Coutinho himself wants to return to the Premier League and would ideally like to remain in the Champions League.
However, there simply aren’t the landing spots for him, with none of the top four - Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United nor Chelsea - keen on taking him.
As such, with a Europa League spot booked, that’s where Arsenal come in.
Barcelona’s position
For Barca, Coutinho has been a bust. An ill fit, he was signed to replace Andres Iniesta but was quickly deemed unfit for purpose in central midfield by Ernesto Valverde. Moved onto the left side of the front three, it didn’t work either.
Amid financial issues, Barcelona want him gone, but understand that few clubs have the necessary finance to take him, and even fewer the desire.
Quique Setien has previously claimed that he was keen to work with Coutinho, but there really isn’t place for the Brazilian with Lionel Messi, Antoine Griezmann, Ousmane Dembele and a number of others around.
Kia Joorabchian’s comments and role.
“It's no secret he wants to come back to the Premier League,” Coutinho’s agent, Kia Joorabchian said at the end of July.
“It's still very much open. There is a lot of genuine interest.
“He loves playing in the Premier League, he is adored playing in the Premier League and that is one of his priorities.”
The agent has helped Coutinho navigate his career thus far and is a key reason for Arsenal being in the running. He is close to technical director Edu - although, as the club is keen to stress, is not his agent nor advisor - and the Gunners have moved away from a more analytical approach to one more reliant on ‘who you know’.
Arsenal’s spending power and Coutinho’s wages
The Brazilian earns around £9million per year in Catalunya. To take him on loan last season, Bayern paid around £10million in a loan fee and then took his salary on board.
Money is expected to be tight this summer at the Emirates, even allowing for Europa League qualification after the FA Cup triumph.
Given the desire of Mikel Arteta to strengthen elsewhere - notably further back in midfield with Thomas Partey and Dani Ceballos, as well as in defence - and the need to give Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang a new deal, Coutinho isn’t the No.1 target. Especially if it’s going to eat a big chunk out of the budget. If they can move on Mesut Ozil, that will help.
Swap with Matteo Guendouzi?
A deal that has been mooted and could work for all sides.
It would see Matteo Guendouzi, currently an outcast after failing to live up to Arteta’s demands and leaving the Spaniard unhappy with his attitude, head to Spain along with £9million, with Coutinho coming the other way.
It works for Barca, as it gets rid of Coutinho’s salary off their books and gives them a young talent who, even if it doesn’t work out, could be sold on for a fee in excess of £20million.
It works for Coutinho as it gets him his move away, allowing him to put down roots once more and focus on the present, rather than worrying about the future.
And it helps Arsenal move out someone the manager wants rid of, while bringing in an undoubted talent at a pretty cut-price rate.
Why would Mikel Arteta be keen?
You know who created more chances for Arsenal in the Premier League last season than anyone else? Mesut Ozil.
The German didn’t play after the season was paused in March due to coronavirus, but still ended the campaign - having made 23 appearances - as the side’s leading chance creator.
Asked about a lack of creativity in the build-up to the finale vs Watford, Arteta said: "They don’t lie, those stats. When you relate that to Arsenal it’s not good enough.”
If Arsenal are to challenge for the top four next term they simply need to improve in the final third. Aubameyang will take chances, but they need to make more.
How would he fit in?
Arteta initially showed a preference for 4-2-3-1, but has shown his pragmatism by winning the FA Cup playing with a 3-4-3/5-4-1 formation.
Having initially operated with Mesut Ozil as an outright No.10, that is no doubt a role Coutinho would see as ideal.
If not, much depends on Aubameyang's future, with the captain having been huge on the left side of attack since Arteta's arrival.
As Arteta seeks to build around the Gabonese, does he move him into a central position? If so, that frees up a role coming in off the left, where Coutinho often thrived at Liverpool, whether in a 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, or, in what many see as Arteta's long-term plan, a 4-3-3.
However, before then, there is still a long way to go.
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Ndio tunavyoomba sote mkuu
Ayayayaya Dembele finishing hamna kitu hua anaboa mbaya.
Sasa nikipiga 4 3 1 2. 1 anakua Arthur au De Jong. Halafu hii 2 kulia anakua Messi na Kushoto huyo Braithwaite baba huyo mwana kama ni kweli anacheza hivyo basi ni kifaa.
Daaah ila hii timu imetutesa sana kwa miaka kama sita hivi. Unai akaja kuharibu zaidi(4-3-3)
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-BELLE -SALIBA -LUIZ -TIERNEY
-CEBALLOS -PARTEY -XHAKA
-WILLIAN -AUBA - COUTINHO
SUB:
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Hivi kikosi kama hiki huyo mpinzani anatokea wapi?!
Yani hapo unaangalia mpira huku pembeni unashushia na kinywaji kabisa!
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Arsenal ace Dani Ceballos' incredible touch map against Chelsea in FA Cup final.
SPANISH midfielder starred against the Blues at Wembley on Saturday as he helped the Gunners beat their London rivals 2-1. The 23-year-old joined the club from Real Madrid last summer on a season-long loan.
Ding .... Dong!
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Arsenal will pay a total fee of £28.8m (including add-ons) for Gabriel Magalhães.
I have spoken with @NicoVdll regarding Gabriel info
I can confirm it came from a close source to Lille
Arsenal have put down the strongest financial offer - after speaking with other reliable journalists here’s how it looks:
Napoli 22m
EFC 25m
MUFC 27m
AFC 32m
We are in pole.
I have spoken with @NicoVdll regarding Gabriel info
I can confirm it came from a close source to Lille
Arsenal have put down the strongest financial offer - after speaking with other reliable journalists here’s how it looks:
Napoli 22m
EFC 25m
MUFC 27m
AFC 32m
We are in pole.
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Wewe umesajili nani?
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Mikel Arteta involves Philippe Coutinho in new Arsenal plan amid transfer chase
Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has big plans this summer transfer window.
According to The Times, the Spaniard has his eyes set on moving his side to a 4-3-3 formation ahead of next season.
But strengthening his midfield options is vital to make that happen - and Philippe Coutinho is amongst those earmarked in a key role in his planned new system.
The Gunners played with three central defenders and two wing-backs in the latter stages of the season, including their FA Cup win over Chelsea.
Granit Xhaka and Dani Ceballos largely formed his first-choice midfield pair but there is no doubt it is an area Arteta is keen to strengthen.
It is claimed he wants Thomas Partey and Coutinho to come into the side, with Partey set to play a box to box role whilst Coutinho adds creativity behind their front-three.
Chelsea star Willian is also on their radar as a free transfer and capable of adding plenty of cover to the wide positions.
Whilst they can land Willian on a free transfer after his Chelsea departure by handing him the three-year deal he wants, finances might be trickier as they chase Partey and Coutinho.
Atletico Madrid are adamant Partey will only be sold if his €50m (£45.5m) release clause is met.
Coutinho, meanwhile, has reportedly been offered to Arsenal for just £9m if Matteo Guendouzi is sent the other way. But plenty of things have to fall into place and Coutinho would still command high wages as Arsenal operate on a tight budget.
Victory at Wembley on Saturday to reach the Europa League has eased their financial situation entering the summer.
But it remains to be seen whether Arteta is able to fund his masterplan and lead Arsenal to glory with a new 4-3-3 system featuring Coutinho next season.
Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has big plans this summer transfer window.
According to The Times, the Spaniard has his eyes set on moving his side to a 4-3-3 formation ahead of next season.
But strengthening his midfield options is vital to make that happen - and Philippe Coutinho is amongst those earmarked in a key role in his planned new system.
The Gunners played with three central defenders and two wing-backs in the latter stages of the season, including their FA Cup win over Chelsea.
Granit Xhaka and Dani Ceballos largely formed his first-choice midfield pair but there is no doubt it is an area Arteta is keen to strengthen.
It is claimed he wants Thomas Partey and Coutinho to come into the side, with Partey set to play a box to box role whilst Coutinho adds creativity behind their front-three.
Chelsea star Willian is also on their radar as a free transfer and capable of adding plenty of cover to the wide positions.
Whilst they can land Willian on a free transfer after his Chelsea departure by handing him the three-year deal he wants, finances might be trickier as they chase Partey and Coutinho.
Atletico Madrid are adamant Partey will only be sold if his €50m (£45.5m) release clause is met.
Coutinho, meanwhile, has reportedly been offered to Arsenal for just £9m if Matteo Guendouzi is sent the other way. But plenty of things have to fall into place and Coutinho would still command high wages as Arsenal operate on a tight budget.
Victory at Wembley on Saturday to reach the Europa League has eased their financial situation entering the summer.
But it remains to be seen whether Arteta is able to fund his masterplan and lead Arsenal to glory with a new 4-3-3 system featuring Coutinho next season.
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