Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread

Richard, Wacha1, Arsene Wenger, Mbu, Belo....

Mchungaji is just visiting...

Yeyote mwenye matokeo ya jana! Arsenal na Man U anijuze. Mimi nilikuwa najua wanacheza leo. Natanguliza shukrani

Kwanza Soma Hii

Not-so-young Gunners are little lost boys in this man's world
It is not 11 men against 11 babies any more. Arsenal are out of their nappies. That much was obvious last night. They are getting closer to the age of maturity, a lot closer, but they still have an embarrassing tendency to cut themselves shaving. And even though they competed well with their hosts, Arsenal will be haunted by the realisation that they could not hurt a Manchester United side that is not what it was. Many had expected Arsene Wenger's team to come to Old Trafford last night and end United's unbeaten record this season in the same way that United finally ended Arsenal's Invincibles 49-match unbeaten run here six years ago. But although this match was fiercely contested, there was not the same intensity about it as some of the classic encounters between these two sides down the years. United are a weaker side without Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez. They are not the team that destroyed Arsenal in the "Men v Babies" Champions League tie the season before last. But, on last night's showing, Arsenal are not quite ready to overtake them yet in the race for Chelsea's title.

Bontower, Belo, Rev Koshoka, Abdulhalim, Eqlypz, Peasant, Rev Masanilo na wote mnaorusha mawe katika nyumba yetu ya vioo nimewasoma :thumb:

...mnh, unajua kwenye haya masuala ya ushabiki wa mpira...kuna muda unaelewa kabisa mashambulizi ya mashabiki toka kambi ya upinzani. Haya maneno yasiyo kichwa wala miguu toka kwa manager wa Arsenal kwa kweli sasa yanapitwa na wakati.
Kuna kipindi inabidi kukubali tunazidiwa mbinu za mchezo, that's all.

Tunaweza kuja na blah blah nyiiingi za kujitetea, but ukweli unabakia tactics za Arsene Wenger 'zipo uchi' kwa top managers wengi wa EPL na UCL. Arsenal. Hata kama tungekuwa na Messi, Drogba au Rooney,...wachezaji tuliokuwa nao, motivations, formation na tactics anazotaka Arsene Wenger team icheze, bado tutasubiri sana kutwaa makombe ya kujivunia.

Arsène Wenger

Manchester United 1-0 Arsenal
Barclays Premier League
Monday, December 13, 2010, 20:00

'It is a big frustration and disappointment'

On whether Arsenal deserved more from the game…

What I feel doesn't matter. We lost the game and I think to be as objective as I can. We were up on the intensity level and we were up on the organisational level. Overall, I think that Manchester United defended very well. The technical quality of the game was average on both sides because the pitch was very poor in my opinion and the game suffered a lot from it.

Manchester United played a very simple game but they were efficient at it because they scored a goal and we didn't create enough chances. You have to give them credit because they defended very well and their defence didn't make any mistakes. Our passing was not quick or sharp enough to get them out of position.

On the state of the Old Trafford pitch…
If I ask you whether you want a good pitch or a bad pitch what do you say? They made technical mistakes as well because of the pitch. It was bouncy and slippery as well.

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...So far Arsenal wana record nzuri viwanja vya ugenini kuliko uwanja wa nyumbani. Mbona AW hatupi sababu za kiwanja cha Emirate kuwa saaafi kama mkeka ndio maana team inashindwa kutandaza soka safi la ushindi?
Anyway, msimamo wa ligi hauongopi!

Barclays Premier League table 2010-2011.


1. Manchester United pts 34 (with a game in hand! duh...)

2. Arsenal pts 32

3. Manchester City pts 32

4. Chelsea pts 32

Mbu said:

...aaarrgghh, lets have a Kit -Kat! naona malumbano yeshageuka mazungumzo baada ya habari.
Tutange mengineyo.

Mmeyaona majungu ya Waingereza wanayompikia Sepp Blatter? dah, kukosa ku host world Cup 2018 imekuwa issue, kila analotamka Blatter imekuwa issue bin issue,....leo wameishikia bango kweli habari hii;

Blatter says no gay sex in Qatar

Posted December 14, 2010 10:23:00



FIFA president Sepp Blatter has raised eyebrows again by joking gay people should simply not have sex during the 2022 World Cup in Qatar to avoid any possible punishment.

...kila baada ya 15mins wanarudia; ...

Blatter Tells Gays: 'No Sex In Qatar 2022'

11:14pm UK, Monday December 13, 2010
Hazel Baker and Richard Williams, Sky News Online
Fifa boss Sepp Blatter has joked that gay people "should refrain from sexual activities" at the 2022 Qatar World Cup.

...nadhani 'ajenda' ya English Media ni kuangusha credibility ya Sepp Blatter.

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huku Qatar nako bado miaka 22 walifanya kosa sana kuchagua mapema kihasi hiki.Kuna mambo mengi yatazungumziwa mpaka kufika huko kama ulevi wa pombe kwa mashabiki uvaaji wa nusu uchi na joto lao hilo balaa litakuwepo tu .

Mbu said:

Bontower, Belo, Rev Koshoka, Abdulhalim, Eqlypz, Peasant, Rev Masanilo na wote mnaorusha mawe katika nyumba yetu ya vioo nimewasoma :thumb:

...mnh, unajua kwenye haya masuala ya ushabiki wa mpira...kuna muda unaelewa kabisa mashambulizi ya mashabiki toka kambi ya upinzani. Haya maneno yasiyo kichwa wala miguu toka kwa manager wa Arsenal kwa kweli sasa yanapitwa na wakati.
Kuna kipindi inabidi kukubali tunazidiwa mbinu za mchezo, that's all.

Tunaweza kuja na blah blah nyiiingi za kujitetea, but ukweli unabakia tactics za Arsene Wenger 'zipo uchi' kwa top managers wengi wa EPL na UCL. Arsenal. Hata kama tungekuwa na Messi, Drogba au Rooney,...wachezaji tuliokuwa nao, motivations, formation na tactics anazotaka Arsene Wenger team icheze, bado tutasubiri sana kutwaa makombe ya kujivunia.





...So far Arsenal wana record nzuri viwanja vya ugenini kuliko uwanja wa nyumbani. Mbona AW hatupi sababu za kiwanja cha Emirate kuwa saaafi kama mkeka ndio maana team inashindwa kutandaza soka safi la ushindi?
Anyway, msimamo wa ligi hauongopi!

Barclays Premier League table 2010-2011.


1. Manchester United pts 34 (with a game in hand! duh...)

2. Arsenal pts 32

3. Manchester City pts 32

4. Chelsea pts 32

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Na hii tabia yake ya kutafuta excuses za ajabu ajabu zaidi ya kuwalaumu wachezaji wake au njia yake ndio inatufanya tuwe tunafungwa kwa style hile hile miaka nenda rudi kwa vile hapendi kukosoa makosa ya kiufundi anatafuta vingine.Kama angekuwa anaangalia zaidi makosa ya kiufundi au wachezaji wake angepata plan b ya kutatua matatizo.


kama swala la physical game amekuwa analia miaka nenda rudi badala ya kuwaambia wachezaji wake wakaze buti au atafute wachezaji wenye nguvu ndio kwanza anajaza mayai.

Belo said:

Mr Bean anategemea kuifunga MANU fowadi kampanga Chamack? Itachukua muda sana Arsenal kushinda vikombe kama mtaendelea kuwa na Mr Bean

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mbona alitupa vikombe mwanzo? tatizo ni board imeweka mbele kumalizia deni la uwanja kwanza kwahio wanaangalia kubana matumizi na wamempata kocha mchumi kama Wenger anaendana sana na plans zao.

Board wameridhika na faida kwenye stock zao kwahio hawana pressure ya kombe kama sisi washabiki.

Arsene Wenger analalamikia uwanja as if Man Utd walichezea uwanja tofauti. swali la kizushi hivi uwa mna plan b kwenye tactical point of view? AFC ya jana sio softies tuliowazoea however hawafikii ungangari wa kina viera and co enzi hizo ila madogo jana came out swinging their boots.

Rev. Kishoka said:

Richard, Wacha1, Arsene Wenger, Mbu, Belo....

Mchungaji is just visiting...

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Khe khe vipi unalinganisha msiba wa mwezi mzima na wa siku moja?

Arsene Wenger said:

mbona alitupa vikombe mwanzo? tatizo ni board imeweka mbele kumalizia deni la uwanja kwanza kwahio wanaangalia kubana matumizi na wamempata kocha mchumi kama Wenger anaendana sana na plans zao.

Board wameridhika na faida kwenye stock zao kwahio hawana pressure ya kombe kama sisi washabiki.

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Hivi bodi ndio ilimwambia Wenger amnunue kina Koscielny.Ukweli sikubaliani na wachezaji ambao Wenger anawasajili wengi wanafanana mfano sioni tofauti kati ya Fabregas,Wilshere,Rosisky,Denilson,Arshavin

Mbu said:

Bontower, Belo, Rev Koshoka, Abdulhalim, Eqlypz, Peasant, Rev Masanilo na wote mnaorusha mawe katika nyumba yetu ya vioo nimewasoma :thumb:

...mnh, unajua kwenye haya masuala ya ushabiki wa mpira...kuna muda unaelewa kabisa mashambulizi ya mashabiki toka kambi ya upinzani. Haya maneno yasiyo kichwa wala miguu toka kwa manager wa Arsenal kwa kweli sasa yanapitwa na wakati.
Kuna kipindi inabidi kukubali tunazidiwa mbinu za mchezo, that's all.

Tunaweza kuja na blah blah nyiiingi za kujitetea, but ukweli unabakia tactics za Arsene Wenger 'zipo uchi' kwa top managers wengi wa EPL na UCL. Arsenal. Hata kama tungekuwa na Messi, Drogba au Rooney,...wachezaji tuliokuwa nao, motivations, formation na tactics anazotaka Arsene Wenger team icheze, bado tutasubiri sana kutwaa makombe ya kujivunia.





...So far Arsenal wana record nzuri viwanja vya ugenini kuliko uwanja wa nyumbani. Mbona AW hatupi sababu za kiwanja cha Emirate kuwa saaafi kama mkeka ndio maana team inashindwa kutandaza soka safi la ushindi?
Anyway, msimamo wa ligi hauongopi!

Barclays Premier League table 2010-2011.


1. Manchester United pts 34 (with a game in hand! duh...)

2. Arsenal pts 32

3. Manchester City pts 32

4. Chelsea pts 32

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Arsene Wenger said:

Na hii tabia yake ya kutafuta excuses za ajabu ajabu zaidi ya kuwalaumu wachezaji wake au njia yake ndio inatufanya tuwe tunafungwa kwa style hile hile miaka nenda rudi kwa vile hapendi kukosoa makosa ya kiufundi anatafuta vingine.Kama angekuwa anaangalia zaidi makosa ya kiufundi au wachezaji wake angepata plan b ya kutatua matatizo.


kama swala la physical game amekuwa analia miaka nenda rudi badala ya kuwaambia wachezaji wake wakaze buti au atafute wachezaji wenye nguvu ndio kwanza anajaza mayai.

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Salute.!!

Hahahah wakicheza na Chelsea, Arsene Wanga (wenger) atalalamika sababu ya hii winter! Kwanini FA isitengeneze micro-environment ya kutufavor sisi! Idiot hes a simply a bad looser

Lol! natamani AW na MBU mmfundishe mpira ndugu yetu Wacha1, ajifunze ku analyse mpira bila kuwa biased, ddnt watch the game, so wont drop more commnets abt the game. I do have tht much respect kwa Wenger kocha wenu, ila, am getting pissed of his post match analysis, zaid pale timu yake inapofungwa, completely rubbish and nonsense huwa anaongea mkifungwa, et, pitch!, c'com! mbn EMIRATA kwenye pitch bomba mmechapwa?, na zile mechi mlizokuwa mnatufunga OT pitch ilikuwa ip?.....ndo naanza kuelwa y Mourhno alikuwa anamtusi sna Mr Bean, he is a looser and a voyear.

Manda said:

Lol! natamani AW na MBU mmfundishe mpira ndugu yetu Wacha1, ajifunze ku analyse mpira bila kuwa biased, ddnt watch the game, so wont drop more commnets abt the game. I do have tht much respect kwa Wenger kocha wenu, ila, am getting pissed of his post match analysis, zaid pale timu yake inapofungwa, completely rubbish and nonsense huwa anaongea mkifungwa, et, pitch!, c'com! mbn EMIRATA kwenye pitch bomba mmechapwa?, na zile mechi mlizokuwa mnatufunga OT pitch ilikuwa ip?.....ndo naanza kuelwa y Mourhno alikuwa anamtusi sna Mr Bean, he is a looser and a voyear.

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Sasa kama hukuangalia huo mpira bora unyamaze tu kwa sababu unaongea vitu vya kusimuliwa muulize mchezaji wako Rio Ferdinand. Tupo halftime mkuu na mnafahamu fika kisoka hamna kitu .... ..

English Comment: Manchester United Loss Proves Once Again That Arsenal Fall Short On The Big Occasion

Arsene Wenger's men continue to infuriate in the crunch games



Patrice Evra

Patrice Evra could not help but grin at the final whistle like a gloating child who had just been handed the class prize as he celebrated Manchester United's 1-0 win over Arsenal. The full-back is one of the most outspoken characters in football and managed to rile Arsenal supporters last week by claiming the Gunners are simply a "training centre" and slamming their recent record as "a load of rubbish".
Infuriatingly for Arsenal fans worldwide, Arsene Wenger's side then went out and once again proved him right.
Arsenal are not so much academy as they are kindergarten when it comes to the games that really matter against the big boys.
When it was put to Wenger that perhaps Evra was right, the Arsenal manager brushed off the question by claiming he could only make an "objective judgement" on the game.
If the Frenchman wants to draw verdicts on objective analysis based on evidence then someone better tell him that his side have now lost 10 and drawn one of their last 11 games against Manchester United and Chelsea in all competitions, scoring only five goals in those games. Even the solitary draw was against Sir Alex Ferguson's side when they needed just a point to win the title.
Indeed, their only victory so far this season in a game of note was a 3-0 win at Manchester City in October and that was not a challenging task after Dedryck Boyata was sent off for the hosts just four minutes into the game. Had the Belgian stayed on the pitch, then their record so far this season against their direct competitors would be nigh on embarrassing.
Somehow, Arsenal have managed to hang on in the title race despite failing against their biggest rivals time and again, even including a humiliating 3-2 home defeat by Tottenham after they had taken a two-goal lead.
If Evra does not think the Gunners warrant a second look, it's because he does not see them as challengers to United.
Why should he? Arsenal have not won a single trophy since he arrived in Manchester and have been limited to a role as also-rans behind United and Chelsea. The Londoners may not be in 'crisis' – as Evra provocatively claimed – but they are far too fragile.
In fact, Arsenal have taken just 11 points out of a possible 30 from 10 games against the Premier League's current top 11 and all three of their victories came against 10 men.
The lack of leadership and authority of their side was highlighted by the choice of Tomas Rosicky as captain on Monday night as Cesc Fabregas was not ruled fit enough to start. You can't win the title with kids, and nor can you win it with wimps.
Arsenal players snapped into tackles from the first minute at Old Trafford as if they had a point to prove, and Evra might have reflected that he was more likely to get 'knocked out' by a flying boot than the visitors' attractive football.
But after Park Ji-Sung looped home his clever header it was effectively game over as United slammed the door shut and Arsenal lost their belief save for a brief spell of pressure in the second half.
It was a familiar result for Wenger's side and could have been even worse had Wayne Rooney not blasted his penalty high into the stands. The Arsenal boss seemed to hang his head in resignation towards the end of the game, but no-one realised he was actually blaming the pitch for his side's failure.
The only novelty factor was the presence of Wojciech Szczesny making his Premier League debut in the Arsenal goal. The 20-year-old Pole was solid with his handling but the mere fact that he was thrust into the side on such a big occasion highlights Arsenal's long-held problem between the sticks.
What will hurt Arsenal is that United seem so ready to swat them away, to write them off as nothing more than an irritant that will disappear around the end of March when the heat is cranked up a notch. But you can hardly blame them.
Wenger's team came into the game with best away record in the Premier League but once again failed to beat a big team – a psychological ailment as much as it is a blow.
As usual, they had possession and stroked the ball around in midfield, but they were completely lacking in penetration against a United side that was well organised but below its best.
Evra's only concession to the Gunners had been that they play nice football, but he might even be forced to re-appraise that judgement after such a toothless performance.
It has become too much of a recurring theme to try to excuse Arsenal's regular defeats to United and thrashings at the hands of Chelsea.
Such is the inconsistency of their performances, the Gunners teeter between a potentially excellent side and a collapsing pack of cards from week to week.
It would be no surprise if Arsenal cruise past Stoke on Saturday at the Emirates, but it is equally predictable that they will again surrender against Chelsea on December 27.
Arsenal are so desperate for a trophy that they are even trying in the League Cup this season, a tacit acknowledgement from Wenger that his side need to build some kind of winning mentality. After all, it's already been five years and the club's trophy cabinet has picked up a few layers of dust.
Maybe, one day, Arsenal with have the last laugh.
But for now they are nothing more than an aesthetically pleasing side that don't have the capacity to perform on the big occasion or the mentality to mount a title challenge. Evra was right.

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Wacha1 said:

<b><font size="3"><font color="darkred">Tunawasubiri Emirates tarehe 30 April 2011, hapo ndipo mtakapojua zipi ni mbivu.</font></font></b>

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Apo umenena sawia mkuu wangu Wacha1, ila game la jumatatu kubali tu kuwa mmechemka, tugange yajayo mkubwa.

From Arsenal legend, Ian Wright:

THE truth hurts.

Patrice Evra threw a grenade in the direction of Arsene Wenger ahead of Monday's match by insisting Arsenal do not have the substance to win a major trophy.

As much as it pains me to say, Evra was 100 per cent right. And he was clearly vindicated by both the scoreline and the Gunners' performance at Old Trafford.

The Manchester United left-back merely said what lots of other people think.

In today's age, current professionals are generally not allowed to have an opinion, so fair play to Evra for his honesty.

He is not afraid to take the consequences of his words and I respect that.

I'm sure some Arsenal fans will continue to give me stick by saying I'm negative, but would they rather I lied, because I can't do that.

Strangers stop me in the street and accuse me of not loving the badge any more. That is not true - I am only being honest.

Arsenal played some decent football in the second half but they never really looked like hurting United despite seeing plenty of the ball.

Everyone remembers the Total Football of the Dutch team in the 1970s but they didn't win anything, either.

Arsenal have managed one draw and 10 defeats in 11 matches against both United and Chelsea. That says it all!

To think Wenger's team finished the 2003-04 season unbeaten but this current one, although extremely talented, are anything but invincible. As Evra says, when you look at the results, it is difficult to really say United and Arsenal are currently big rivals.

If Gooners are happy when Arsene Wenger says he doesn't need to sign any players next month, then so be it.

Manchester United defended exceptionally well. Nemanja Vidic delivered a monster performance, roughed up Marouane Chamakh early on and the Moroccan, apart from one chance, did not threaten much.

It was disappointing to see Samir Nasri start the game wide on the right.

I know he has played well there this season, but I thought he would have been more effective in his favourite central position where he is able to use space to greater effect. Just remember what he did for France against England. Instead, Wenger chose to play Tomas Rosicky in that hole behind Chamakh and he wasn't effective. Arsenal only managed a couple of shots in the game so that says it all.

The visitors had the possession in the second half but were frustrated. I thought Wojciech Szczesny was excellent in goal and I would definitely start him against Stoke on Saturday.

Given the choice, I'd rather have him in goal right now.

I have been critical of the two centre-backs, Laurent Koscielny and Sebastien Squillaci, but in fairness, I thought they both did OK.

On Monday night, I would love to have seen a Vieira, Overmars or Anelka attack United. But offensively, Arsenal were below-par and predictable and were well-marshalled by Alex Ferguson's back line.

I would have loved to have seen Theo Walcott play up front when he was introduced - Rio and Vidic would have been very worried by his pace.

I can understand why Theo is so frustrated at not starting many games - and why he is desperate to play in his favourite position. Because when he does begin a match, he is stuck out wide.

Wenger keeps insisting Theo's best position is up front alongside another striker so I find it very strange why he is not playing him in that spot.

Theo has been at the club a long time now. I think he has earned the right to knock on Wenger's door and ask for a few explanations.

As a former striker, I have absolutely no doubt Theo can be a prolific goalscorer - far more effective than as a right winger. He should be one of the focal points of the team not just a sub.

He was brought on with 13 minutes to go which is not long enough. Fergie, quite clearly, has worked out how to play Arsenal.

When you consider the Gunners arrived top, it would have been nice to have seen a better game.

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There have been some brilliant Premier League clashes this season but, unfortunately, this was not one of the better ones. Now Arsenal must bounce back again from this latest disappointment and they cannot afford any more poor home performances.

Stoke will be tough on Saturday but Arsenal should have enough to win. Then on December 27, they must contend with Chelsea and Didier Drogba, who loves playing against them.

Arsenal HAVE to beat them. Another defeat and you will have to wonder whether they stand a chance of the title.

Chelsea also have a massive match against United on Sunday. On current form, United will edge it, even though they are not playing at their best.

And I am sticking with United as my tip for the title. Once they get themselves into position at the top in the second half of the season, they rarely give it away.

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Mmemsema sana Evra na comment zake lakini mmeona article ya legend wenu Ian Wright au Samir Nasri?

...Frank Rijkaard alijenga msingi imara Barcelona. Team ilikuwa inacheza soka safi sana na Pep Guardiola hajapata shida kuendeleza pale Rijkaard alipoishia. Bado na imani Arsene Wenger anahitaji assistant mwenye mtizamo tofauti na kina Pat Rice na Bora Milutinovic, ...la sivyo ni bora Arsene Wenger apewe Directorate of Football pale ARSENAL.

...Kisha wachezaji hawa hawa waliopo Arsenal sasa, na style hiyo ya uchezaji (holding possession- quick passes- fast flowing football,) team ipewe "kwa mtizamo wangu" natural born 'winner' kama Rijkaard, Guardiola, Joachim "Jogi" Löw, Juergen Klinsmann, au Slaven Bilic. Naamini team itakuwa tishio, na tutatwaa EPL Cup, UCL Cup, na hata Super Cup within a year!