After he is gone, then what?

[JokaKuu]

Yes, we never disintegrated after Mwalimu left but look how things turned out.

And by no means am I saying we can’t survive without Magufuli.

We will.

But, what will that survival be like?

..when Mwalimu left there used to be "foleni" because of scarcity of basic neccesities.

..then, came Mzee Ruksa and all that was gone.

..so, some can argue that it was better that Mwalimu retired from the presidency.

..Ppl can make all sorts of predictions about how our country will be without Magufuli.

 

[Themagufulianz]

Hata yeye ana madhaifu..... Ila ameamua ku change culture..
Na ana team kubwa ya civil servants ikiwamo viongozi wakubwa.
Sasa mnaposema atengeneze system mna maana gani labda?

..waTz wote ni madhaifu including Magufuli?

..au waTz wote ni madhaifu excluding Magufuli?

..sasa Magufuli ana masaada gani ktk jamii ya namna hiyo?
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[JokaKuu]

Mnachokisema kiko very imaginary unless sielewi na niko tayari kueleweshwa....
Watu imara wa
toke wapi wakati tunajijua watz wote madhaifu yetu? Kuna watu ama iundwe timu ya kijeshi kama SWAT?

..mfano mzuri unaweza kuwa ni KAMPUNI.

..Sasa kampuni husika inatakiwa iwe na sheria, taratibu,miiko,na mifumo, kuhakikisha kwamba kazi zinafanyika kwa ufanisi, wakati, na kwa namna ambayo inaleta faida kwa wenye hisa.

..na kwamba hakuna wakati wowote ambapo kazi zinasimama, au ufanisi unapungua, kutokana kutokuwepo kwa mfanyakazi mmoja.

..Kwamba ktk kampuni husika idara mbalimbali zinafanya kazi kwa ushirikiano kwa lengo la kampuni inaimarika siku hadi siku.

..NCHI nayo inatakiwa ifuate kanuni hizo nilizozieleza hapo juu. Kwamba BUNGE, MAHAKAMA, na SEREKALI, vyombo vyote hivyo vinapaswa kutimiza wajibu wake bila kutetereka.

 

[City Of Lies]

President Magufuli.

It’s like he’s the only one who cares.

The only one who’s at least trying to do something about it.

It seems like he is fighting it all by his lonesome.

After he is gone, after he is no longer president, then what?

Will things revert back to how they were before he took the reigns of power?

I don’t have the answers to those questions so I will just have to wait for Father Time to tell me.

But such are the pernicious effects of unchecked venality.

People got so used to cutting corners in just about everything imaginable.

Corruption, grand and petty, became the norm.

Then he came along and tried to upset the apple cart. And to no surprise but to the chagrin of some of us, the pushback he’s getting makes us scratch our heads.

For years many people have been virtue signaling about the pervasiveness of corruption in the country.

Then it’s these same people who are now against the efforts made to combat it.

I don’t get it and maybe I’ll never get it.

I lay blame squarely on CCM for fostering it. They are the ones who created this ogre of corruption and allowed it to grow to uncontrollable levels.

It’s sad to see even what would seemingly be minor projects being micromanaged by the president.

Like, without his direct supervision nothing will ever get done.

Sometimes I wonder if we even know what we really want!

Sad state of affairs.

After he is gone, then what?
Misery.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

The folly of Magufuli is in his lacking a decidedly comprehensive approach towards whatever he is doing or saying.

As a result, he is running things by fits and whims, in an uncoordinated and uninformed way. Almost like a small office manager trying to use the same two bit tactics to run a country and deal with geopolitical espionage.

If one wants to do much, one must prepare very much. Magufuli is piloting a Boeing M737 Max on autopilot and an empty fuel tank. A recipe for disaster.

Apart from the banal not very impressive low hanging fruits of infrastructural improvements here and there, as well as intangibles like discipline (arguably fear based fake discipline) in government. I do not see how a person who insults even his key aides can get much accomplished. He fails at the most basic of leadership tenets.

He is bound to be caricatured by history as someone who did not know how to swim who jumped too quickly in the ocean and refused a line of help.

He is a one man army who clubs even friendly soldiers, setting himself an easy target for the malady of "development fatigue".

He will end up creating fake success stories (I am just watching how ATC unfolds) in order to pat himself in the back.

What's next? Unfortunately he is ruining the chances of real and calculating reformers.People with sense and a fresh taste of the vagaries of Magufulism will reject serious reforms as another exercise in futility.

That is a very gloomy picture that you’ve painted.

It’s like there is no hope.

Is there anyone out there who has genuine integrity that can do the job well and restore the public’s trust in government?

I remember Mkapa was sold as such but look how he turned out to be!

The words ‘Mkapa and integrity’ cancel each other out!!!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

After he is gone, then what?
Misery.

Hahahahaaa.....could be!

 

[JokaKuu]

Hata yeye ana madhaifu..... Ila ameamua ku change culture..
Na ana team kubwa ya civil servants ikiwamo viongozi wakubwa.
Sasa mnaposema atengeneze system mna maana gani labda?

..tatizo ni kwamba anaonekana kufanya mambo kwa kukurupuka bila utaratibu au kufuata sheria za nchi.

..pia hakuna positive results na sasa tunaelekea mwaka wa 4 tangu aingie madarakani.

..ni kweli ana timu kubwa ya civil servants lakini haonyeshi kuwapa ushirikiano na kuwa-empower kutekeleza majukumu yao kulingana na taaluma zao, na kwa kuzingatia sheria na taratibu.

 

[City Of Lies]

Hahahahaaa.....could be!

Hoping for the best but expecting the worse.

 

[MTK]

President Magufuli.

It’s like he’s the only one who cares.

The only one who’s at least trying to do something about it.

It seems like he is fighting it all by his lonesome.

After he is gone, after he is no longer president, then what?

Will things revert back to how they were before he took the reigns of power?

I don’t have the answers to those questions so I will just have to wait for Father Time to tell me.

But such are the pernicious effects of unchecked venality.

People got so used to cutting corners in just about everything imaginable.

Corruption, grand and petty, became the norm.

Then he came along and tried to upset the apple cart. And to no surprise but to the chagrin of some of us, the pushback he’s getting makes us scratch our heads.

For years many people have been virtue signaling about the pervasiveness of corruption in the country.

Then it’s these same people who are now against the efforts made to combat it.

I don’t get it and maybe I’ll never get it.

I lay blame squarely on CCM for fostering it. They are the ones who created this ogre of corruption and allowed it to grow to uncontrollable levels.

It’s sad to see even what would seemingly be minor projects being micromanaged by the president.

Like, without his direct supervision nothing will ever get done.

Sometimes I wonder if we even know what we really want!

Sad state of affairs.

Poor you, have you ever heard that 2 wrongs can make 1 right? He needed a blue print b4 embarking on his transformative journey; read my lips; The country needs strong institutions not strong men! diagnosing a problem is one thing BUT making a proper and right prescription to cure the disease is quite another, and that's when patients die!! Now he does not have the institutions in place and he has alienated the people who know the problem inside out!
The days of Robinson Crusoe are long gone! (Hypothetical though); you can be given a place to stand but you can never change the world alone!
Poleni praise team, mnakumbuka shuka asubuhi wakati kumekucha sasa mtabaki kulament aloud!

 

[Erythrocyte]

I have no doubt with his stand against grand corruption, but I think that,the best thing JPM can do it is to ensure there would be strong Institutions which shall act reagardles who is power since it wont be possible to have another Magufuli.Withouth strong governance Institutions,I have no doubt that come 2026 all the gains we have realized in just four years of his presidency would be history .

can you mention here the gains you have realized under Magufuli presidency ?

 

[The Dark Father]

President Magufuli.


The only one who’s at least trying to do something about it.

It seems like he is fighting it all by his lonesome.

Mkuu,

I respect your ability to reason.

He's tryin to do things most of would say, "Da Fuc do I care"

 

[Kiranga]

That is a very gloomy picture that you’ve painted.

It’s like there is no hope.

Is there anyone out there who has genuine integrity that can do the job well and restore public trust in government?

I remember Mkapa was sold as such but look how he turned out to be!

The words Mkapa and integrity cancel each other out!!!

Ours is a systemic problem.

Bashiru was very candid when he said CCM does not have a grooming process for young leaders. What he left out, out of respect for the elders perhaps, is that even the elders are not properly covered.

I think it was Socrates who said that, those who shun politics are condemned to be governed by their inferiors.

In our case, I have some sympathy towards those who shun political office. I will explain as concisely as I can.

1. We have so many good people who have a lot of potential.

2. We also have a lot of megalomaniacs driven by naked ambition.

3. The way our system of ascending to power is, the good guys will either weed themselves out by not venturing into politics at all, or, if they do venture, will fail miserably due to a lack of the requisite ruthlessness, machination, lack of integrity etc required to rise. If bribing is a requirement to become an MP, the good guy who refuses bribing will never be an MP, will never get a junior cabinet position, which will elevate him to a full cabinet position and national visibility.

The party politics in the opposition is not that much different.

4. As a result, you are almost guaranteed to have all presidential candidates as professional megalomaniacs who are very good at convincing people with some boilerplate bs, but deep down they are so cynical they make Kiranga look like an optimist.

So you are stuck with this abracadabra. Especially because we have an imperial presidency which, in practice, can hardly be checked.

Short of a benevolent Bodhisattva descending on us by some unlikely strike of lightning, we have the proverbial forty years to wander in the desert before we reach the promise land.

And even with that scenario, I am not sure how many months will he endure before "development fatigue" starts to kick in.

For our problems are legion and our resources are meagre.

 

[Ilitara kimura]

Tutarudi kule tulikotoka ndugu la tumwombe atusaidie kujenga mfumo wa kitaasisi kabla hajaondoka

 

[King Kong III]

Development has no Party.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Ours is a systemic problem.

Bashiru was very candid when he said CCM does not have a grooming process for young leaders. What he left out, out of respect for the elders perhaps, is that even the elders are not properly covered.

I think it was Socrates who said that, those who shun politics are condemned to be governed by their inferiors.

In our case, I have sone sympathy towards those who shun political office. I will explain as concisely as I can.

1. We have so many good people who have a lot of potential.

2. We also have a lot of megalomaniacs driven by naked ambition.

3. The way our system of ascending to power is, the good guys will either weed themselves out by not venturing into politics at all, or, if they do venture, will fail miserably due to a lack of the requisite ruthlessness, machination, lack of integrity etc required to rise. If bribing is a requirement to become an MP, the good guy who refuses bribing will never be an MP, will never get a junior cabinet position, which will elevate him to a full cabinet position and national visibility.

The party politics in the opposition is not that much different.

4. As a result, you are almost guaranteed to have all presidential candidates as professional megalomaniacs who are very good at convincing people with some boilerplate bs, but deep down they are so cynic they make Kiranga look like an optimist.

So you are stuck with this abracadabra. Especially because we have an imperial presidency which, in practice, can hardly be checked.

Short of a benevolent Bodhisattva descending on us by some unlikely strike of lightning, we have the proverbial forty years to wander in the desert before we reach the promise land.

And even with that scenario, I am not sure how many months will he endure before "development fatigue" starts to kick in.

For our problems are legion and our resources are meagre.

Looks like it all boils down to corruption.

Corruption is a cancer in our body politic and CCM is 💯 % responsible for it.

That cancer must be removed.

How? I don’t know. But it must be removed if we are to progress.

 

[Themagufulianz]

..mfano mzuri unaweza kuwa ni KAMPUNI.

..Sasa kampuni husika inatakiwa iwe na sheria, taratibu,miiko,na mifumo, kuhakikisha kwamba kazi zinafanyika kwa ufanisi, wakati, na kwa namna ambayo inaleta faida kwa wenye hisa.

..na kwamba hakuna wakati wowote ambapo kazi zinasimama, au ufanisi unapungua, kutokana kutokuwepo kwa mfanyakazi mmoja.

..Kwamba ktk kampuni husika idara mbalimbali zinafanya kazi kwa ushirikiano kwa lengo la kampuni inaimarika siku hadi siku.

..NCHI nayo inatakiwa ifuate kanuni hizo nilizozieleza hapo juu. Kwamba BUNGE, MAHAKAMA, na SEREKALI, vyombo vyote hivyo vinapaswa kutimiza wajibu wake bila kutetereka.

Hiyo system iko ok.... bunge nk .... Sheria tunazo tena katiba.... Shida ni watu walioko kwenye hivyo vyombo..
Mfano spika akitanguliza njaa akajipendekeza kwa President na kupoteza madaraka yake sio shida ya system...
Ikiwa serikali kila mtu jinga.. ila ikiwa KAMPUNI kuna sense ya woga na ownership

 

[Themagufulianz]

..tatizo ni kwamba anaonekana kufanya mambo kwa kukurupuka bila utaratibu au kufuata sheria za nchi.

..pia hakuna positive results na sasa tunaelekea mwaka wa 4 tangu aingie madarakani.

..ni kweli ana timu kubwa ya civil servants lakini haonyeshi kuwapa ushirikiano na kuwa-empower kutekeleza majukumu yao kulingana na taaluma zao, na kwa kuzingatia sheria na taratibu.

Hakuna positive results.. hata flyover ni negative results?
Judgement yako inatumia political attitude and biasness mkuu..
Tukosoe cha kukosoa na tusifu cha kusifu

 

[Lyamber]

What are those institutions, anyway? What are they made of?

Strong institutions backed up by the constitution, not depending on doing something just to get the president's attention this is the time that most people do something just to he noticed i.e. the praise team leaving out their phone numbers at the bottom of their posts, RC of Tabora, RPC of Dom, are just examples of weak institutions, TTCL's forcing public workers to use TTCL line before further clarifications were made.

 

[Don Clericuzio]

Im not looking for his attention like you are dying for mine.

Go pound sand.

Karibu tena bro.

You were missed big time.

 

[Mfiaukweli]

I have no doubt with his stand against grand corruption, but I think that,the best thing JPM can do it is to ensure there would be strong Institutions which shall act reagardles who is power since it wont be possible to have another Magufuli.Withouth strong governance Institutions,I have no doubt that come 2026 all the gains we have realized in just four years of his presidency would be history .

If Magufuli is the answer to corruption then I don't know the question. The man is as corrupt as corruption itself.