After he is gone, then what?

[Issuna]

SELFISHNESS selfish attitudes serves the self!! =Corruption: For your information the selfish Magu is the most corrupt leader in Africa! time will tell!!

evidence of what you wrote! do not miss use your fingers & brain!

 

[TumainiEl]

President Magufuli.

It’s like he’s the only one who cares.

The only one who’s at least trying to do something about it.

It seems like he is fighting it all uby his lonesome.

After he is gone, after he is no longer president, then what?

Will things revert back to how they were before he took the reigns of power?

I don’t have the answers to those questions so I will just have to wait for Father Time to tell me.

But such are the pernicious effects of unchecked venality.

People got so used to cutting corners in just about everything imaginable.

Corruption, grand and petty, became the norm.

Then he came along and tried to upset the apple cart. And to no surprise but to the chagrin of some of us, the pushback he’s getting makes us scratch our heads.

For years many people have been virtue signaling about the pervasiveness of corruption in the country.

Then it’s these same people who are now against the efforts made to combat it.

I don’t get it and maybe I’ll never get it.

I lay blame squarely on CCM for fostering it. They are the ones who created this ogre of corruption and allowed it to grow to uncontrollable levels.

It’s sad to see even what would seemingly be minor projects being micromanaged by the president.

Like, without his direct uu nothing will ever get done.

Sometimes I wonder if we even know what we really want!

Sad state of affairs.

Usilolijuwa......kiza

 

[Yamakagashi]

Duh. Umeopoa toto la Kiislamu haswaa yakhee

Toto Mashalaaah Yakhe......jicho hiloo ,kiuno nyiguu ,tako ndembe ndembe Walahi nabata ushungu

Karibu ujipigie Sheikh mara moja moja si unajua kizuri kula na nduguyo

 

[champline]

mmh! Yaaani thread kama hizi, zinanifanya nitamani kwenda kuanza darasa la kwanza, ningesoma kwa bidiii hasa somo la kingereza!!!

Thread Kama hizi zinatuletea kumbukumbu ya enzi za jf mliokuja kupoteza.nyani ngabu ni miongoni mwa wanajf wa enzi zile members wanashindana kwa hoja na sio viroja na chuki binafsi.anachoshangaa ni kilichobadilisha akili za wale aliosimama nao kupinga yanayopingwa Sasa hivi na jpm lakini wenzie wamebadili gia angani wanayapigania.

 

[smarte_r]

President Magufuli.

It’s like he’s the only one who cares.

The only one who’s at least trying to do something about it.

It seems like he is fighting it all by his lonesome.

After he is gone, after he is no longer president, then what?

Will things revert back to how they were before he took the reigns of power?

I don’t have the answers to those questions so I will just have to wait for Father Time to tell me.

But such are the pernicious effects of unchecked venality.

People got so used to cutting corners in just about everything imaginable.

Corruption, grand and petty, became the norm.

Then he came along and tried to upset the apple cart. And to no surprise but to the chagrin of some of us, the pushback he’s getting makes us scratch our heads.

For years many people have been virtue signaling about the pervasiveness of corruption in the country.

Then it’s these same people who are now against the efforts made to combat it.

I don’t get it and maybe I’ll never get it.

I lay blame squarely on CCM for fostering it. They are the ones who created this ogre of corruption and allowed it to grow to uncontrollable levels.

It’s sad to see even what would seemingly be minor projects being micromanaged by the president.

Like, without his direct supervision nothing will ever get done.

Sometimes I wonder if we even know what we really want!

Sad state of affairs.

coming from a stupid old head who went missing for a couple of days on jf.

 

[Issuna]

With strengthening institution he has willingly failed. He's just happy doing it alone; creating problems and then stage-manage problems solving fora.
Does 'Kikokotoo' and the infamous 'coral' show, ring a bell?

At this point you may be thinking that it’s not your job to make this stuff better.You just want people to know this thing is lame...I think there’s some confusion about this,as far u don't put your self on his shoes,always u'll think his shoes can fit you.

 

[The golden]

This country has stupid people like you!!!
Do you discourage existence of democracy?,
Can you show me even a single country that has attained development without democracy?

Do you think dictatorship can help you and your family members ,let me ensure you it doesn't.

May be you are earning something from this regime ,that is why ,mocking democracy .

Ati democratic space, nonsense of the highest order. Democracy ni nadharia za watu individual, you have yours we have ours, you dont want, die and reborn in your favourite democracy au hama nchi, msituchoshe.

 

[The golden]

coming from a stupid old head who went missing for a couple of days on jf.

Sure.

 

[Issuna]

Let them be/see/get/have what they real want.it is already become there mantra,they don't value him/his time anymore..They already forgot he cant last longer..he is in that position just for period of time.

there phrases conveys no positive sentiments and i marks them as jealous and enemies to walk away from them.

Leave them..Lets just Watch it.

 

[Mwanzi1]

You probably believe this nonsense too. Credit his strong man approach to governance for everything but failures. Good luck crossing the road

They're people who have actually missed the bandwagon of change, and they are the one screaming the most. It used to be easy to get away with murder back in the days, not anymore.
I'm not sure how you miss seeing financial sector reforms, Gov current account shifted from commercial banks to BOT, control government bonds, curbing foreign exchange market, chasing the looted Gov assets, etc. But you're more interested fake news. You can't even see the health care reform where medicine reaches a poor man/women in the village, the number of medical students has jumped and construction of health facilities countrywide. What about trade between Tanzania and its neighbours, has it gone up or down and to whose favour. How are our inflation rate numbers and thing interesting there? Has the country suffered from the chronic shortage of anything, food, fuel, clothing, alcohol, water? The boat has sailed and I'll suggest trying to swim harder, or you will drown.

 

[Prof Griff]

Toto Mashalaaah Yakhe......jicho hiloo ,kiuno nyiguu ,tako ndembe ndembe Walahi nabata ushungu

Karibu ujipigie Sheikh mara moja moja si unajua kizuri kula na nduguyo

Mashaalah...ngoja nitafute kwanza vihela vya urojo na kuku wa kupaka si unajua mrembo lazima ale vizuri kwanza paleee kwa Wapemba kabla ya yale masuala

 

[Themagufulianz]

..system haiko OK kwasababu imewekewa "matundu" mengi yanayowezesha watawala kui-abuse.

Ni watu ndio wanaharibu.....
Labda katiba mpya ndio iwe solution....
Ila system kama system ipo..... yenye watu waovu

 

[Yamakagashi]

Mashaalah...ngoja nitafute kwanza vihela vya urojo na kuku wa kupaka si unajua mrembo lazima ale vizuri kwanza paleee kwa Wapemba kabla ya yale masuala

Teh teh halina gharama Sheikh hilo ,Muarabu koko huyo sheikh asije akakupiga kamba sijui ana vinasaba na kina Al Maktoum oh sujui kashalala Burj Al Arab
Mpeleke kwa mnyamani maana Ilala kwa wapemba utakuwa unampa sifa asiyo stahili .

 

[Imeloa]

Ati democratic space, nonsense of the highest order. Democracy ni nadharia za watu individual, you have yours we have ours, you dont want, die and reborn in your favourite democracy au hama nchi, msituchoshe.

....When the reasoning capacity reaches the climax, people tend to think the way you do. Take heart man for you aren't alone.

 

[Themagufulianz]

..kuhamia Dodoma, manunuzi ya ndege, kuvamizi ktk biashara ya korosho, kuvunjia wananchi nyumba zao huku zuio la mahakama likipuuzwa, ni kati ya maamuzi yasiyokuwa na tija kwa nchi.

Kuhamia Dodoma naipa 50/50 ... siielewi sana but najua kuna benefit zake nyingi
Ununuzi wa ndege unajenga utalii na ni business program... I support it
Ununuzi wa korosho ... una malengo mazuri japo kuna failures kwa mwaka wa kwanza ila positive results in the future.. Na tayari viwanda 14 vya kubangua korosho vinafufuliwa (wahindi waliviua makusudi ili ku dominate soko)
Kuvunjia nyumba wananchi ni kosa sana nakuunga mkono kwa hili.

....... Kinachotutofautisha ni political attitude na hivyo tunachagua upande ama kuwa mpingaji tu ama kuwa mshangiliaji tu.
Our normal reasoning zimekufa .... U either hate or like
.... Ningeshauri kuponda baya na ku support zuri kama lipo..

 

[Capital]

Yes, we never disintegrated after Mwalimu left but look how things turned out.

And by no means am I saying we can’t survive without Magufuli.

We will.

But, what will that survival be like?

Better this jiwe guy disappeared pretty fast..
I bet by the time he leaves (regular time).. TZ will be the poorest of all time.. 90% of employable persons will be jobless, tz will be in the dark and highly indebted. Basis for my reasoning include

1. Investments on infrastructure not guided by economic principles.. SGR, STIEGLERS, CHATO INTL AIRPORT, COCOBEACH.. ATCL. Omg!

Ethiopia did try, more or less like what jiwe is doing. Trust me, Ethiopia is the most backward, destitute and dirty country today. Ethopian workers receive peanuts called salaries, youths are desperate to abandon their homeland. No wonder Ethiopians are perishing on East Africa highways and hinterlands, crying to make it to SA.. Ethiopia is in deep shit really, despite the mighty Ethiopian Airlines, and the Renaissance Dam, and the electric train.

Jiwe is commiting serious errors, likely to send us to our knees in not very long while into the future.. He is pursuing a gruesome route, blatantly.. at our cost. Mark my words

2. Business environment and opportunities have been curtailed, banished and destroyed by Jiwe. Each year, his weird and scandalous decisions harm the economy more than imagined. To start with, he killed mbaazi farming, a year later he killed koroshow, now pamba is next..
These used to be the lifeline of farmers and generally the Tz economy. Tz is not manufacturing anything for export. Suffocating agricultural commodity export is as good as comitting suicide.. that is what jiwe is doing, and he knows that.. shameless saboteur..
Locally, hardly any opportunity for regular people to conduct business exists... TRA is being manipulated.. it has turned into a covert weapon to deal with dissidents..

I can surely tell you, Tanzania is slowly becoming another Ethiopia. It will take a decade or more to undo, neutralize or offset damage inflicted on us by jiwe. Who knows, we may even not recover because normally, dictators finally plunge their countries into serious civil conflicts and unrests so they can escape safely..

We know all that.. Zimbabwe, Congo Zaire, Sudan, etc etc

 

[Issuna]

Yes, we never disintegrated after Mwalimu left but look how things turned out.

And by no means am I saying we can’t survive without Magufuli.

We will.

But, what will that survival be like?

Just like Libya...

Before Gadaffi and After Gadaffi...

 

[Capital]

I am logging out of this thread simply because of this post.

I thought since the thread is in English then it would have been so difficult for the small minds to mistreat it. But then I realise, English is just a language and still small minds are in here spitting shits!

Sounds like mr Jiwe himself.. hahaa..

 

[Valentina]

Wasukuma akili zenu hivi zikoje?

Kwamba tubadili katiba yetu ili tu imruhusu mtu mmoja atutawale Hadi afe?


Hivi mnamaanisha kabisaaa kutoka kwenye dhamira zenu au mnakua mnatania tu?


Ana upekee gani huyu?!

Wanatania tu hawa...

 

[Monseur]

Palamagamba Kabudi ndiye ajaye na yupo makini sana