Why I am Not A Christian - Bertrand Russell

Why I am Not A Christian - Bertrand Russell

Lole Gwakisa said:
Bluray , my brother, sijanywa maji tu maji ya bendera ya Kanisa la Kristo, but I am also striving to live it, however difficult.
I am trying , like every christian is.
The destruction on yerselsf I am talking of is that of your soul my dear!If you dont believe in the Lord then that might be a much more difficult field to cross.
The body?
Be assured that we are of the same boat. But it also embodies what you are trying to deny, your soul has a spirit within you, for good or for bad.
I am amazed by your courage to dismiss God, and in public.
What I can assured you , God remembers and will stand to all challenges , and answer them Himself.
But behold ny brother, repent before it is too late.
I am not saying that I am holier tha thou, not all.
But I look up to the Redeemer that for all that we do not know , all that we sin , that He may forgive us.
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Soul? What is a soul? Where is it? How much does it weigh? Does it have charge? Length? How can you prove to me that the soul exist?
 
Kuna zama watu walipinga existence ya soul,malaika even God kwa kwa sababu walikuwa wana evidence ya existence of only 3D figures.Ikagunduliwa 2D figures kama vile kivuli n.k,ikaja kugunduliwa 1D figures,kama vile gamma,X-rays which can't be seen by naked eyes and can penetrate many matters without/with little resistance.What if there's "0 D" figures,any device to detect it?Kwa hiyo failure yako ya kuto detect haimaanishi kwamba hicho kitu hakipo...just a limited knowledge,na hakuna siku tutakuja kuwa na full understanding ya vile tunavyopenda ili ku prove God's existence.Hata hizi scientific facts tunazo jifariji kuwa tunazijua kuna discrepancies kibao eg uncertainty theory of quantum physics ina prove hadi leo no one knows the exactly momentum/velocity ya electron but still scientists wanatumia quantum physics katika mambo mengi
 
Qadhi said:
Kuna zama watu walipinga existence ya soul,malaika even God kwa kwa sababu walikuwa wana evidence ya existence of only 3D figures.Ikagunduliwa 2D figures kama vile kivuli n.k,ikaja kugunduliwa 1D figures,kama vile gamma,X-rays which can't be seen by naked eyes and can penetrate many matters without/with little resistance.What if there's "0 D" figures,any device to detect it?Kwa hiyo failure yako ya kuto detect haimaanishi kwamba hicho kitu hakipo...just a limited knowledge,na hakuna siku tutakuja kuwa na full understanding ya vile tunavyopenda ili ku prove God's existence.Hata hizi scientific facts tunazo jifariji kuwa tunazijua kuna discrepancies kibao eg uncertainty theory of quantum physics ina prove hadi leo no one knows the exactly momentum/velocity ya electron but still scientists wanatumia quantum physics katika mambo mengi
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Get your basic geometry right.Huwezi kujua 3D usijue 2D and 1D.Ni sawa sawa na kusema mtu anajua hesabu za vipeo kabla ya kujua hesabu za kuzidisha na kujumlisha.Hilarious. You got it backwards son, maybe you need to pick up "Flatland" and appreciate the science of dimensions further.

Nini 1,2,3D, watu tumeona 11 spatial dimensions za String Theory na M Theory.Na dimensions zinavyozidi ndivyo unavyozidi kuona hakuna mungu.Don't get me started on that tip cause I will overdo it, or as Tha Dude say, overkill it.

Let Bluray watch some bluray for a min, hamna nyimbo mpya hapa, mnarudia chorus ile ile tired.

Where Mushi @? Where Vera @?
 
Bluray said:
Get your basic geometry right.Huwezi kujua 3D usijue 2D and 1D.Ni sawa sawa na kusema mtu anajua hesabu za vipeo kabla ya kujua hesabu za kuzidisha na kujumlisha.Hilarious. You got it backwards son, maybe you need to pick up "Flatland" and appreciate the science of dimensions further.

Nini 1,2,3D, watu tumeona 11 spatial dimensions za String Theory na M Theory.Na dimensions zinavyozidi ndivyo unavyozidi kuona hakuna mungu.Don't get me started on that tip cause I will overdo it, or as Tha Dude say, overkill it.

Let Bluray watch some bluray for a min, hamna nyimbo mpya hapa, mnarudia chorus ile ile tired.

Where Mushi @? Where Vera @?
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Vera signed off long time ago....
 
VeraCity said:
Vera signed off long time ago....
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But I just had to bring her back.

Unaona skimpy sciences hizi za copy paste up in here?

Kids talking about gamma rays and dimensions and they don't even know what a photon is, don't know nothing about the wave particle quantum duality nature of electromagnetic radiation, don't even know the sheer absurdity of the dimensionality of photons and similarly everchanging energy fields. I mean where does one begin?

I can't even begin to get through to them with their copy paste posts.

I tell them go google something and print it out, spend a weekend or two then come back, otherwise the whole enterprise is a hocus pocus, a hodgepodge of mismatched mishmash.
 
Bluray said:
But I just had to bring her back.

Unaona skimpy sciences hizi za copy paste up in here?

Kids talking about gamma rays and dimensions and they don't even know what a photon is, don't know nothing about the wave particle quantum duality nature of electromagnetic radiation, don't even know the sheer absurdity of the dimensionality of photons and similarly everchanging energy fields. I mean where does one begin?

I can't even begin to get through to them with their copy paste posts.

I tell them go google something and print it out, spend a weekend or two then come back, otherwise the whole enterprise is a hocus pocus, a hodgepodge of mismatched mishmash.
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Wachangiaji tuko na miizamo tofauti, uelewa tofauti, wavelengths tofauti.... inafikia mahali mtu inabidi kujiondosha.
Bluray we endelea na akina Max....
Mimi nimeshanawa mikono.
 
VeraCity said:
Wachangiaji tuko na miizamo tofauti, uelewa tofauti, wavelengths tofauti.... inafikia mahali mtu inabidi kujiondosha.
Bluray we endelea na akina Max....
Mimi nimeshanawa mikono.
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You are just proving Socrates right.
 
Bluray said:
Get your basic geometry right.Huwezi kujua 3D usijue 2D and 1D.Ni sawa sawa na kusema mtu anajua hesabu za vipeo kabla ya kujua hesabu za kuzidisha na kujumlisha.Hilarious. You got it backwards son, maybe you need to pick up "Flatland" and appreciate the science of dimensions further.

Nini 1,2,3D, watu tumeona 11 spatial dimensions za String Theory na M Theory.Na dimensions zinavyozidi ndivyo unavyozidi kuona hakuna mungu.Don't get me started on that tip cause I will overdo it, or as Tha Dude say, overkill it.

Let Bluray watch some bluray for a min, hamna nyimbo mpya hapa, mnarudia chorus ile ile tired.

Where Mushi @? Where Vera @?
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Bluray, as it seems you have an overflow of excess material that is not neccessarily relevant to your well being.
Like I said before, be patient, and God will definately reveal Himself before you.
 
Lole Gwakisa said:
Bluray, as it seems you have an overflow of excess material that is not neccessarily relevant to your well being.
Like I said before, be patient, and God will definately reveal Himself before you.
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Bluray

Your provocative religious discourse is getting hot..I cant stand the heat.
Wenye dini zenu shauri yenu......
 
When I became convinced that the universe is natural-that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell, the dungeon was flooded with light, and all the bolts, and bars, and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf, or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world-not even in infinite space.

I was free-free to think, to express my thoughts-free to live to my own ideal-free to use all my faculties, all my senses-free to spread imagination's wings-free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope-free to judge and determine for myself-free to reject all ignorant and cruel creeds, all the "inspired" books that savages have produced, and all the barbarous legends of the past-free from popes and priests-free from all the "called" and "set apart"-free from sanctified mistakes and holy lies-free from the fear of eternal pain-free from the winged monsters of the night-free from devils, ghosts, and gods.

For the first time I was free. There were no prohibited places in all the realms of thought-no air, no space, where fancy could not spread her painted wings-no chains for my limbs-no lashes for my back-no fires for my flesh-no master's frown or threat-no following another's steps-no need to bow, or cringe, or crawl, or utter lying words. I was free. I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously, faced all worlds.

And then my heart was filled with gratitude, with thankfulness, and went out in love to all the heroes, the thinkers who gave their lives for the liberty of hand and brain-for the freedom of labor and thought-to those who proudly mounted scaffold's stairs-to those whose flesh was scarred and torn-to those by fire consumed-to all the wise, the good, the brave of every land, whose thoughts and deeds have given freedom to the sons of men. And then I vowed to grasp the torch that they had held, and hold it high, that light might conquer darkness still.

- Robert G. Ingersoll ( 1833 - 1899)
 
Bluray said:
Get your basic geometry right.Huwezi kujua 3D usijue 2D and 1D.Ni sawa sawa na kusema mtu anajua hesabu za vipeo kabla ya kujua hesabu za kuzidisha na kujumlisha.Hilarious. You got it backwards son, maybe you need to pick up "Flatland" and appreciate the science of dimensions further.

Nini 1,2,3D, watu tumeona 11 spatial dimensions za String Theory na M Theory.Na dimensions zinavyozidi ndivyo unavyozidi kuona hakuna mungu.Don't get me started on that tip cause I will overdo it, or as Tha Dude say, overkill it.

Let Bluray watch some bluray for a min, hamna nyimbo mpya hapa, mnarudia chorus ile ile tired.
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Sawa mkuu,mimi hapo nimezungumzia decrease in dimensions in relation to invisibility,na siyo kuongezeka kama ulivyojibu na kujaribu kutoa huo mfano wa 11D.Na hii sija google.
To me,hizi theories na logic are but just language manouvering,ni ngumu kufikia actual consesus.Utakuta katika mistari yao haiko straight forward na ndio maana hadi leo darwinism,marxism etc haieleweki vema,inajikanyaga yenyewe.
Mara ielezee vitu positively mara negatively,wanaomini hiyo mistari ,kwa bahati mbaya,wanahisi hawezi ku comprehend the substance isipokuwa genius which is a bogus idea kwa sababu lengo la elimu ni ku simplify life ndio maana professor anatikiwa a digest complex idea into simple ones ili ilete manufaa katika jamii otherwise it's useless.
Peace mkuu,katika field ya kucheza na lugha kuhalalisha unconceivable ideas siko fit hata kidogo,in that sense huwa nakaa benchi.Otherwise kama uko serious na arguments zako naomba take time kufikiria upya na Almighty God akupe muongozo sahihi.
Kwa heri....
Qadhi
 
Qadhi said:
Sawa mkuu,mimi hapo nimezungumzia decrease in dimensions in relation to invisibility,na siyo kuongezeka kama ulivyojibu na kujaribu kutoa huo mfano wa 11D.Na hii sija google.
To me,hizi theories na logic are but just language manouvering,ni ngumu kufikia actual consesus.Utakuta katika mistari yao haiko straight forward na ndio maana hadi leo darwinism,marxism etc haieleweki vema,inajikanyaga yenyewe.
Mara ielezee vitu positively mara negatively,wanaomini hiyo mistari ,kwa bahati mbaya,wanahisi hawezi ku comprehend the substance isipokuwa genius which is a bogus idea kwa sababu lengo la elimu ni ku simplify life ndio maana professor anatikiwa a digest complex idea into simple ones ili ilete manufaa katika jamii otherwise it's useless.
Peace mkuu,katika field ya kucheza na lugha kuhalalisha unconceivable ideas siko fit hata kidogo,in that sense huwa nakaa benchi.Otherwise kama uko serious na arguments zako naomba take time kufikiria upya na Almighty God akupe muongozo sahihi.
Kwa heri....
Qadhi
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Language is inherently inadequate at describing phenomena, hili linajulikana.Na sayansi haija claim kuwa perfect, huo ndio uzuri wa sayansi, inakubali kwamba ina makosa na inajisahihisha, hata wewe unakaribishwa kuonyesha makosa.

Kwa upande wa dini, ambayo ina makosa na inconsistencies nyingi zaidi na kubwa zaidi kuliko sayansi, ubaya wake ni kwamba inajidai ni neno la mungu lisilo na kosa, wakati watu tunaona wazi makosa kibao katika hivi vitabu vinavyosemwa kuwa vya mungu.

Ndiyo maana mimi siwezi kukubali kwenda kikondookondoo tu kukubali dini.Kwanza asilimia 90% ya watu wako katika dini zao kwa sababu tu walizaliwa katika dini hizo.

Halafu pia, usiwe mwepesi kulaumu Darwinism na Marxism, ingawa vyote hivi vina makosa (hakuna kisicho makosa ulimwenguni) kuna uwezekano mkubwa pia kwamba uelewa wako una makosa pia yaliyokufanya using'amue haya mambo.
 
Imenichukua masaa mawili na nusu kusoma thread yote hii... Mbaya zaidi sijaelewa chochote!
 
Kibunango said:
Imenichukua masaa mawili na nusu kusoma thread yote hii... Mbaya zaidi sijaelewa chochote!
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Hahahaha,

Kibs, mi nilifikiri Nyani Ngabu huwa anatania tu.Sasa unam-validate kwa post hii.
 
Ahahahahahaaa...kwani lini uliwahi kumwona Kibs akibisha kuwa hajui Kiingereza?
 
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