USHOGA nchini: Tuangaliane machoni sasa!

USHOGA nchini: Tuangaliane machoni sasa!

Nimesoma waafrika wengi wakiwamo Watanzania kuwa wapo tayari kukataa misaada ya USA&EU wakipita misaada inayokuja na masharti ya kuchimbana nnya najaribu kufikiria ni kweli waafrika wakatae dola kisa kusuguliwa nnya?mi siamini hili maana kama bajet tu ya Taifa inafadhiliwa na hao wafadhili kwa zaid ya 50% leo wajitoe ghafla tu. Afrika itakuwa balaa. Waafrika kama ni ungese tunao toka uhuru kwa kutokuwa na akili ya kutumia rasilimali zetu toka miaka ya 1960 wakat tunapata uhuru haya ya sasa ni matokeo tu. Nawakikishia miaka 5 mingi.
 
Ndjabu Da Dude said:
Wewe mwenyewe ni shoga. Tunakumbuka posting yako miaka ya nyuma jinsi ulivyokuwa ukijisifia kwa kumlawiti muhindi chooni night club. Tokea siku ile I lost all respect for you. No wonder upo so engaged na mambo ya ushoga.
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Weka link mkuu.

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mtimkavu2 What is the essence of marriage?
By your knowledge can you explain to the forum this homosexulity behaviour is done by which other species/animals?

Governments reflect societies which the serve, tell me which religion in Tanzania support homosexulity by majortiy?
Are you an african, tell me which african culture supports homosexuality?

If the answers to these question are against homosexuality, do you think what you wrote is relevant to Tanzanian society? or are you one of those that try to object natural law?
 
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Huyu lazima ni mpinga Kristo maana Biblia imeandika kabisa kuhusu hayo mambo ila yeye anataka watu waendeleze
 
kajima said:
mtimkavu2 What is the essence of marriage?
By your knowledge can you explain to the forum this homosexulity behaviour is done by which other species/animals?

Governments reflect societies which the serve, tell me which religion in Tanzania support homosexulity by majortiy?
Are you an african, tell me which african culture supports homosexuality?

If the answers to these question are against homosexuality, do you think what you wrote is relevant to Tanzanian society? or are you one of those that try to object natural law?
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Where did I state that I support gay Marriage?? And where are you drawing your conclusion that I might be one of those trying to object natural law? What I wrote might not be applicable to Tanzania or African countries but I was trying to shed a light to the fact that all the gay rights movement in America is mainly for people's wallet and has nothing to do with religious beliefs while the gay opposition in Africa is mostly for the religious beliefs which means the two are fighting two different things and it's taken out of context when I read some of the members comments about the gay issue using Obama's support of gay rights. My point is Obama is supporting gay rights for different reasons and that should be taken into account (NOT SURE HOW I CAN EXPLAIN THAT CLEARLY)

Yes Government reflects societies they serve but policing what is happening in people's bedrooms should not be one of them. As far as what is the essence of marriage I think it's different for everyone. I think originally marriage was a pure social event to initiate cohabitation without any legal aspects. Now I don't know the evolution of marriage but our modern marriages have legal aspects to them. People are getting married for Love, happiness and the fulfillment marriage brings but others do it for convenience, security, companionship e.t.c.

I know in America where divorce rates are high people sign a pre-nuptial agreement to protect their assets in case of divorce and to me that's where I see marriage as a business especially those who are married into money to feel secure ( I am going out of a limb here and assume in Tanzania nobody gets married for money). And I have always wondered for those religious people who supposedly get married for their beliefs, faith, love, commitment, and the list can go on why is the legal binding necessary? If your goal is love or religious you can certainly get all of that without having a legal piece of paper.

Bottom line is in America marriage is a legal contract, nothing more to it than that. It is a way for people to save on their taxes, consolidate their assets etc and the gays in America are fighting for the chance to do the same. In Africa marriage (even though they require legal aspects) is not viewed as a legal contract, its mostly religious and I don't think gays in Africa have petitioned to have a right to marriage.

What I support is equal rights for every human being and unfortunately in America for the gays to get equal benefits straight people get it would require them to get married. My question to you is…DOES GAY LIFESTYLE AFFECTS YOUR LIFE?? IF SO HOW?
 
Jk alisema itachukua muda watanzania kuelewa na wataelewa tuu ktk kipindi cha christiane amanpour.....
 
Ifike kipindi dunia iwe huru na haki za binadamu ziheshiniwe!

Kama mtu kaamua kufanya mapenzi ya jinsia moja hiyo ni shauri yake,kwani inatudhuru nini?

JK kafanya jambo la maana kuiacha hii ishu,hakutaka kukataa,kukubali wala kuijadili kwasababu ni jambo lipo linafanyika,sema nona ishu kubwa hapa inayoleta mihemko ni ile kuwatungia sheria jambo ninaloona kama sio la maana sana.

Hakuna mtu mwenye mamlaka juu ya maisha ya mtu mwingine tuwaache.....!
 
Jifunzeni historia na mapokeo ya watz. Ushoga sio mgeni kwa baadhi ya sehemu za JMT. Kule pwani wale jamaa zetu ni jadi, kule musoma wanawake wanaoana wenyewe kwa wenyewe toka enzi na enzi, n.k.
 
Cynic said:
Jifunzeni historia na mapokeo ya watz. Ushoga sio mgeni kwa baadhi ya sehemu za JMT. Kule pwani wale jamaa zetu ni jadi, kule musoma wanawake wanaoana wenyewe kwa wenyewe toka enzi na enzi, n.k.
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Il hao ndio wapo mstari we mbele kuwaita wengine mashoga....hii nchi zijui ina watu gani.Huko pwani wanajifanya laani lakini hakuna shehemu inafikia nusu ya tabia za ukanda pwani ya ktk Africa mashariki
 
Mataifa ya magharibi yanaishambulia Uganda kama Mpira wa kona. Missada yote imezuiwa au kipelekwa kwenye NGOs.
 
Mnapoteza mda. Halizuiliki hili. Cha muhimu ni wewe mwenyewe kutafit chanzo na kujitahidi mwanao asiwe shoga. Ila kwa umaskini tulionao waAfrika its just a matter of time litakua official
Nawaona wajinga wanaohusisha hili swala la ushoga na dini moja au ingine. Hao wanaofanya hivi ndani ya dini yeyote kati ya waislam na wakristo ni wana kwenda kinyume na maagizo ya vitabu vyao vya dini na hii ni dhahir kwa mtu yeyote mwenye akili ya kawaida.
Tofauti inakuja kuwa wafuasi wengi wa dini moja wanataka ihalalishwe na nyingine hawawezi halalisha japo kuna wanaoendeleza dhambi hii kama vile walivyo wezi na wauaji ndani ya jamii.
Tatizo linalofanya kupiga vita ushoga kuwa impossible ni kwamba ubaya wa moja kwa moja wa ushoga hauko dhahir!
Kuingiliana kinyume kwa watu wawili kuna athiri vipi mtu wa pembeni au jamii waliokuwemo?
Kwa mfano ni dhahir wizi ni mbaya sababu mtu anachukua kisichochake, kupigana ni vibaya sababu unamuumiza mwenzio, lakini sasa akifliwa mtu au wakilambana nani au nini ni dhahiri kinaumizwa?
Sasa wengi hukimbilia kusema me kaumbwa ili kumwingilia ke kwa ajili ya kuzalisha! Pro gays wanauliza ni kwa asilimia ngapi watu hujamiiana ili wapate watoto na ni kwa asilimia ngapi hufanya mapenzi kwa starehe? Na kama ni kwa starehe zaidi ya kutengeneza watoto basi nao wanamakosa kama tu ya hao mashoga. Pili kuna watoto mamilioni ni orphans (wasio na wazazi) hawa mashoga wanaweza wa adopt hawa watoto na kuishi nao kama familia zingine.
Nimejaribu tu kuchanganua mambo kidogo japo nafaham wenye akili ndogo watakuja na matusi hapa kabla ya kuelewa vizuri nilichoandika hapo juu.

Mimi kinacho nishangaza na ambacho sijapatia jibu zuri hadi sasa ni kwanini haya mataifa ya magharibi yanatushambulia sana kuhusu hili swala? Si ni wao wametuletea dini tukakubali, dini hio inakataa. Wao ndio wametuletea demokrasia (wengi wape) tukakubali, tukipiga kura nchini kwetu hili swala halikubaliki!
Sasa kwanini hili swala kwao ni EXEPTION to their rules!!?
 
ningekuwa mwanaume ningepeleka posa kwa mamake Obama!
ya kumposa Barack!
jibu ambao ningepata ndo ningejua how serious he is with this issue!
 
mtimkavu2 said:
Where did I state that I support gay Marriage?? And where are you drawing your conclusion that I might be one of those trying to object natural law? What I wrote might not be applicable to Tanzania or African countries but I was trying to shed a light to the fact that all the gay rights movement in America is mainly for people's wallet and has nothing to do with religious beliefs while the gay opposition in Africa is mostly for the religious beliefs which means the two are fighting two different things and it's taken out of context when I read some of the members comments about the gay issue using Obama's support of gay rights. My point is Obama is supporting gay rights for different reasons and that should be taken into account (NOT SURE HOW I CAN EXPLAIN THAT CLEARLY)

Yes Government reflects societies they serve but policing what is happening in people's bedrooms should not be one of them. As far as what is the essence of marriage I think it's different for everyone. I think originally marriage was a pure social event to initiate cohabitation without any legal aspects. Now I don't know the evolution of marriage but our modern marriages have legal aspects to them. People are getting married for Love, happiness and the fulfillment marriage brings but others do it for convenience, security, companionship e.t.c.

I know in America where divorce rates are high people sign a pre-nuptial agreement to protect their assets in case of divorce and to me that's where I see marriage as a business especially those who are married into money to feel secure ( I am going out of a limb here and assume in Tanzania nobody gets married for money). And I have always wondered for those religious people who supposedly get married for their beliefs, faith, love, commitment, and the list can go on why is the legal binding necessary? If your goal is love or religious you can certainly get all of that without having a legal piece of paper.

Bottom line is in America marriage is a legal contract, nothing more to it than that. It is a way for people to save on their taxes, consolidate their assets etc and the gays in America are fighting for the chance to do the same. In Africa marriage (even though they require legal aspects) is not viewed as a legal contract, its mostly religious and I don't think gays in Africa have petitioned to have a right to marriage.

What I support is equal rights for every human being and unfortunately in America for the gays to get equal benefits straight people get it would require them to get married. My question to you is…DOES GAY LIFESTYLE AFFECTS YOUR LIFE?? IF SO HOW?
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HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN EVIL JUST LIKE ANY OTHER EVIL DEED (By religion, african culture, norms, natural law), so yes this stupidity which you are trying to defend without admitting YOU SUPPORT,is an unacceptable IN AFRICA, AND TANZANIA.

What is with you? Tanzanians do not like this practise and by majority, You speak too much about US, now go and convince these guys in US to bannish this one Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill - CNN.com

FOR STUPID WORLD BANK MOVE ON UGANDA I THINK ALL AFRICAN COUNTRIES NEED TO STOP DEALING WITH THE WEST FROM TODAY, UNTIL THEY LET US CHOOSE OUR OWN WAYS OF LIVING. GAYS AND LESBIANS SHOULD BE GIVEN ASSLYUM IN EUROPE AND US. EVEN IN YOUR HOUSE.
 
Ushoga ni mwiko katika nchi za Afrika , hakuna Rais katika bara la Afrika anaweza kuhalalisha 'haki za mashoga' na kubaki madarakani, ushoga bado ni mwiko kwetu.

Wakazi wengi wa bara la Afrika huishi kwa kufuata imani na tamaduni zao, mafundisho ya imani za Koran na Biblia. Sheria ya nchi za Afrika hufuata maadili na tamaduni hizi.

Nchi za Magharibi lazima ziheshimu damaduni, imani na maadaili ya wafrika, maadili ya kwetu waafrika ni safi na rahisi. Kulazimisha waafrika kutetea haki za mashoga ni kuingilia uhuru na haki za waafrika, ni ubeberu wa Magharibi kujaribu kwa nguvu kuvunja maadili ya kiafrika ili watutawalale kirahisi viongozi kaeni macho huu ni ukoloni mamboleo.

Je ni wapi tunaweza kuwaeleza wazungu watuelewe? je viongozi wa bara la afrika wanapaswa kuwa pamoja. Je si bora kulala njaa kuliko kupewa kwa masharti ya Ushoga?
 
huu ni upuuzi na kukubali kupelekwa kama man'gombe. nimependa msimamo na nukuu ya Robert Mugabe
 
MSHINO said:
Wakazi wengi wa bara la Afrika huishi kwa kufuata imani na tamaduni zao, mafundisho ya imani za Koran na Biblia. Sheria ya nchi za Afrika hufuata maadili na tamaduni hizi.
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Sasa kubatizwa na kubadilishana majina kunakujaje hapa, fafanua tafadhali!
Kubalini tu kuwa Africa tumeshapoteza vitu vingi na vingine vya thamani zaidi hata ya huo ushoga.
 
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