USA are not able to overcome S-300 air defense system

[Bukyanagandi]

mimi huo mtanange wa serbia nilikua naucheki live,wakati marekani wamekoleza kuitwanga serbia,mwishoni wanataka kuikamata yote,bana we,wakashitukia vifaru vya mrusi vinaingia serbia bila yao kuwa na tarifa,marekani wakabaki hawajui wafanye nini?,wavitwange vifaru vya mrusi na hivyo kurisk vita na mrusi ama iwe vipi,hatimae mrekani akasitisha vita,nakumbuka ilikua usiku na nilishuhudia live coverage ya CNN ya tukio,kilichoendelea vita vikastop ghafla,mengine sikumbuki kwani imepita miaka mingi

Hata mimi naikumbuka sana, Warusi waliwashtukiza sana NATO - walijua fika kwamba jamaa wamekwisha jitayaliyasha kwa lolote ndio maana Cliton aliogopa. Kumbuka kisa cha Krushchev na Kennedy.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Kujaza server na mapicha ya kuokoteza wikipedia si kutoa facts wewe.

Mkuu Nyani Ngabu jamaa hatoi picha kutoka wikipedia, anatoa kwenye sources nyingi tu hii inaonyesha ana weledi wa mambo mengi kutokana na kuwa na interest na masuala ya Geopolitics na Military Technology ni hilo tu mkuu, cha zaidi he knows wapi pa kutafuta detailed information la somo husika - repeat what counts ni kuwa na interest kwenye masuala hayo basi.

 

[Dotworld]

Bado hujaleta ushahidi unaoonyesha kweli hiyo ndege ilitunguliwa.

Habari za kuitungua zilitoka kwa hao sijui ndo Waserbs.

Ni watu wa kuaminika kweli hao? I don't think so.

Walidai hivyo ili wapate ujiko tu.

Hapana, aisee. Style-wise inakuwa vigumu kumjibu hoja kwa hoja na mstari kwa mstari.

Jana nimejaribu kufanya hivyo na yakatokea madudu tu ambayo wala sikuhangaika kurudia kuyanyoosha.

Hakuna haja ya kuweka bullet points kama atakayenukunuu zitamletea matatizo.

Mtu anaweka mapicha tenA makuuubwa, kwani tuko Instgram hapa?

No need to be superfluous.

Wewe ulitaka habari hizi umuone Clinton akisema kuwa ndege yetu imetunguliwa?! - wewe mara ngapi unasikia wanajibu kuwa ndege ilitunguliwa kwa "Friendly fire"

Yaani wewe unataka waseme kuwa imetunguliwa ndege yenye thamani ya 1 Billion Dollars wakati wenyewe wakati wanaomba hela kwenye bajeti walisema kuwa ndege haiwezi kutunguliwa - alafu wajiuzulu?!

Kama unataka hivyo basi utasubiri mpaka 30 years hapo habari kama hizi zitakapokuwa Declassified!

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[Nyani Ngabu]

Mkuu Nyani Ngabu jamaa hatoi picha kutoka wikipedia, anatoa kwenye sources nyingi tu hii inaonyesha ana weledi wa mambo mengi kutokana na kuwa na interest na masuala ya Geopolitics na Military Technology ni hilo tu mkuu, cha zaidi he knows wapi pa kutafuta detailed information la somo husika - repeat what counts ni kuwa na interest kwenye masuala hayo basi.

Sijali anakoyatoa hayo mapicha. Kwangu ni vurugu tu.

Walau angekuwa hata anaweka viunganishi tu basi, ingetosha.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Hapana, aisee. Style-wise inakuwa vigumu kumjibu hoja kwa hoja na mstari kwa mstari.

Jana nimejaribu kufanya hivyo na yakatokea madudu tu ambayo wala sikuhangaika kurudia kuyanyoosha.

Hakuna haja ya kuweka bullet points kama atakayenukunuu zitamletea matatizo.

Mtu anaweka mapicha tenA makuuubwa, kwani tuko Instgram hapa?

No need to be superfluous.

Mkuu Nyani Ngabu we truncate mapicha na vitu vingine alafu mjibu DotWorld pointwise - mbona ni rahisi kufanya hivyo mkuu, lakini tukumbuke vile vile kwamba picha SPEAKS.... si unajua TENA.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

What's that?

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Mkuu Nyani Ngabu we truncate mapicha na vitu vingine alafu mjibu DotWorld pointwise - mbona ni rahisi kufanya hivyo mkuu, lakini tukumbuke vile vile kwamba picha SPEAKS.... si unajua TENA.

Ya nini nifanye hivyo? Kwani yeye hawezi kuwa concise na to the point?

 

[Dotworld]

What's that?

Well, Mkuu hiyo ni Postcard kutoka nchi ya Serbia ambazo huwa wanatuma wakiwa wanaadika kwa watu wa Marekani - wewe hujui?!

Baada ya kuiangusha hiyo ndege ambayo ni Stealth (Invisible) na kuona kuwa Wamarekani wamelalamika sana na kusema kuwa imekuwaje Waserb wameweza kuiangusha ndege yetu ya thamani kubwa na ambayo ni Stealth?!

Ndipo nchi ya Serbia ikaanza kutoa postcards kama hizi (wewe huoni kwenye muhuri hapo ni mji wa sehemu ndege ya F-117 ilipotunguliwa?!)

So it was a Joke directed to US kuwa Sorry hawakujua kuwa ni Invisible! ... meaning kuwa hiyo ndege siyo invisible ndo maana wameweza kuitungua.

Na wakawa wanasema kuwa wameziangusha 3 still more to go! (angalia hii nyingine hapa)!

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[Nyani Ngabu]

Well, Mkuu hiyo ni Postcard kutoka nchi ya Serbia ambazo huwa wanatuma wakiwa wanaadika kwa watu wa Marekani - wewe hujui?!

Baada ya kuiangusha hiyo ndege ambayo ni Stealth (Invisible) na kuona kuwa Wamarekani wamelalamika sana na kusema kuwa imekuwaje Waserb wameweza kuiangusha ndege yetu ya thamani kubwa na ambayo ni Stealth?!

Ndipo nchi ya Serbia ikaanza kutoa postcards kama hizi (wewe huoni kwenye muhuri hapo ni mji wa sehemu ndege ya F-117 ilipotunguliwa?!)

So it was a Joke directed to US kuwa Sorry hawakujua kuwa ni Invisible! ... meaning kuwa hiyo ndege siyo invisible ndo maana wameweza kuitungua.

Na wakawa wanasema kuwa wameziangusha 3 still more to go! (angalia hii nyingine hapa)!

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Pwa! ha! ha! ha! Ahahahaaaaa!
Kweli umekunywa hadi ukalewa kool-aid ya Warusi wewe ahahahahaaaa daaah!
Halafu unajishaua eti una fikra huru. Fikra huru where the sun don't shine.

 

[Elungata]

Sijali anakoyatoa hayo mapicha. Kwangu ni vurugu tu.

Walau angekuwa hata anaweka viunganishi tu basi, ingetosha.

link watu huwa hawaclick,bora aweke wazi kila mtu aone

 

[Dotworld]

Ha aahaaa kuna watu wabishi sijui ulitaka upewe ushahidi gani zaidi ya huu.Kwa hiyo unataka kusema hiyo ndege ilianguka yenyewe siyo.Unasema Waserbs si watu wa kuaminika lakini akisema USA unaamini.Duh ukisikia ugonjwa wa kupenda ndio huu sasa.

Pwa! ha! ha! ha! Ahahahaaaaa!
Kweli umekunywa hadi ukalewa kool-aid ya Warusi wewe ahahahahaaaa daaah!
Halafu unajishaua eti una fikra huru. Fikra huru where the sun don't shine.

Haya huyu hapa Pilot katika VIDEO aliekuwa anaiendesha hiyo ndege ya F-117 iliyotunguliwa huyu hapa na aliemtungua

Nyani Ngabu ... Wewe umeamua kubisha - haya kataa na hii hapa

Na hii utasema kuwa ni "Video-Shopping"!

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BBC World News TV ikiripoti the same thing

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TUJITEGEMEE, kadoda11.FaizaFoxy, idawa

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Haya huyu hapa Pilot katika VIDEO aliekuwa anaiendesha hiyo ndege ya F-117 iliyotunguliwa huyu hapa na aliemtungua

Nyani Ngabu ... Wewe umeamua kubisha - haya kataa na hii hapa

Na hii utasema kuwa ni "Video-Shopping"!

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Video ya propaganda tu hiyo.
Na kwa vile wewe na cheerleaders wako mmenyweshwa na kulewa kool-aid ya Warusi basi mnaamini chochote kile hata kiwe cha kipuuzi namna gani.

 

[kadoda11]

Pwa! ha! ha! ha! Ahahahaaaaa!
Kweli umekunywa hadi ukalewa kool-aid ya Warusi wewe ahahahahaaaa daaah!
Halafu unajishaua eti una fikra huru. Fikra huru where the sun don't shine.

hiyo sasa ni mipasho ya kina mbuta nanga na mange kimambi.haitakiwi kutolewa na "JF Platinum Member" wa jinsia ya kiume. huko ni kujidhalilisha.baki njia kuu.toa nondo za kumu-outsmart Dotworld .thibitisha "unacho kinena" kwa ushahidi.

 

[Mag3]

Haya huyu hapa Pilot katika VIDEO aliekuwa anaiendesha hiyo ndege ya F-117 iliyotunguliwa huyu hapa na aliemtungua
Na hii utasema kuwa ni "Video-Shopping"!

Ha ha haa, I'm so gullible. I'm so damn gullible. And I am so sick of me being gullible. Dotworld, na hii website umeiona?
LiveLeak.com - Shocking video,,,USA never Landed on the moon
Hapo kuna watu walitengeneza mabilioni, ujanja kupata si kuwahi.

 

[Mag3]

Kwahiyo USA ni watu wa kuaminika?

Bulldog, ngoja nikusaidie kidogo, USA kuna uhuru wa kutoa na kupata habari, hakuna nchi imeweza kuwakusanya watu wenye mawazo extreme kama USA lakini mwisho wa siku utaifa hutawala. Achana na siasa za nyumbani...inapotokea kuwa amejitokeza mtu, kikundi au taifa likahatarisha maisha ya Mmarekani, tofauti zote za ndani hufagiliwa chini ya kapeti.

Kuna Wamarekani wasioamini taarifa zinazotolewa na serikali yao, kuna Wamarekani kazi yao kubwa ni kuponda na kupinga mipango ya serikali yao, kuna Wamarekani wanatetea sana hata wale ambao serikali yao inawaita maadui...Marekani ukae tu ukiisikia, wapo ambao hawasiti hata kutoa siri za mipango ya serikali kwa nchi maadui.

Mfano mdogo tu ni kwamba wapo Wamarekani wanaoita maafa ya September 11, 2001 njama tu zilizopangwa na serikali yao, wapo ambao hawaamini Marekani iliwahi kurusha chombo na kutua mwezini na kwamba ni usanii tu, wapo wasioamini uwepo wa Mungu na hawataki jina la Mungu litajwe popote pale wakidai ni hadithi tu za kupotosha jamii.

Wote hawa wako tayari kutetea misimamo yao kwa kutoa data ambazo watadai zimefanyiwa tafiti za kutosha na ushahidi kibao. Wameandika ripoti za utafiti walizofanya na kuziweka mitandaoni wakidai wanaielimisha dunia kuhusu uovu/ulaghai wa serikali yao na taifa lao kuihadaa dunia na hawafichi majina yao wala makazi yao.

Ni Marekani tu unamkuta mtu moja akiandamana akiituhumu serikali na viongozi wake na hata kuwatukana huku polisi na raia wakipita kila moja akijali mambo yake. Lakini kama kwa kitendo chake hicho itafikia hatua akahatarisha maisha ya mtu au mnyama, hapo ujue sheria itachukua mkondo wake hata kama mnyama mwenyewe ni nyau tu wa mtaani.

Ni hapa ndipo umuhimu wa First Amendment ndani ya katiba ya Marekani unapoonekana...Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Kama Tanzania tungekiri...The Government is inherently more powerful than individuals because of the police power they have. So the freedom to speak out and speak up against any abuses of the powerful is very important. If they were able to silence people their power would become tyrannical and despotic and all other freedoms and liberties people enjoy would be in jeopardy.

Marekani na Russia ni wenda wazimu kujaribu kuwaweka kwenye mizani sawa kwa lolote lile...

 

[Dotworld]

Ha ha haa, I'm so gullible. I'm so damn gullible. And I am so sick of me being gullible. Dotworld, na hii website umeiona?
LiveLeak.com - Shocking video,,,USA never Landed on the moon
Hapo kuna watu walitengeneza mabilioni, ujanja kupata si kuwahi.

Sasa Mkuu Mag3 hayo masuala ya conspiracy theorists juu ya ku-land kwenye moon na hapa yameingiaje?

Yaani badala ya kujadili kilichopo kwenye mjadala wewe unaleta masuala ya kwenye moon landing! - unataka ku-divert Issue?

Naona mmeanza kumshambulia mtoa hoja, - pinga hoja kwa hoja ..

Haya Hii hapa ya VIDEO ya BBC

Nyie watu wa ajabu sana

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[Consigliere]

Ha ha haaaa...naanza kuvutiwa na Nyani Ngabu kwa namna alivyo die harder. Kwa kweli mmarekani Nyani Ngabu anaonyesha kwa vitendo jinsi alivy mkatoliki kuliko papa. And franly speaking, bila Nyani Ngabu mjadalla huu ungepooza sana.

 

[Al Watani]

Video ya propaganda tu hiyo.
Na kwa vile wewe na cheerleaders wako mmenyweshwa na kulewa kool-aid ya Warusi basi mnaamini chochote kile hata kiwe cha kipuuzi namna gani.

Nyani Ngabu ingependeza sana kama ungekuwa unavipinga hivi vitu kwa ushahidi, lakini kwa maneno yako haya signature inaaksi mawazo yako unapinga tu bila hata ushahidi.

 

[Consigliere]

Huyu Dotworld huenda anazo hadi picha za tangu Dr. Ulimboka anatekwa na kuteswa kule Mabwepande.

 

[Dotworld]

Bulldog, ngoja nikusaidie kidogo, USA kuna uhuru wa kutoa na kupata habari, hakuna nchi imeweza kuwakusanya watu wenye mawazo extreme kama USA lakini mwisho wa siku utaifa hutawala. Achana na siasa za nyumbani...inapotokea kuwa amejitokeza mtu, kikundi au taifa likahatarisha maisha ya Mmarekani, tofauti zote za ndani hufagiliwa chini ya kapeti.

Wote hawa wako tayari kutetea misimamo yao kwa kutoa data ambazo watadai zimefanyiwa tafiti za kutosha na ushahidi kibao. Wameandika ripoti za utafiti walizofanya na kuziweka mitandaoni wakidai wanaielimisha dunia kuhusu uovu/ulaghai wa serikali yao na taifa lao kuihadaa dunia na hawafichi majina yao wala makazi yao.

Ni Marekani tu unamkuta mtu moja akiandamana akiituhumu serikali na viongozi wake na hata kuwatukana huku polisi na raia wakipita kila moja akijali mambo yake. Lakini kama kwa kitendo chake hicho itafikia hatua akahatarisha maisha ya mtu au mnyama, hapo ujue sheria itachukua mkondo wake hata kama mnyama mwenyewe ni nyau tu wa mtaani.

Marekani na Russia ni wenda wazimu kujaribu kuwaweka kwenye mizani sawa kwa lolote lile...

Mkuu Mag3 unajua hapa hatuongelei juu ya hao Wamarekani ambao ni Conspiracy Theorists! ... hapa tunaongelea juu ya kuangushwa kwa ndege ya Stealth ya US aina ya F-177 ambayo ni familia moja na B-2

Sasa unataka kusema kuwa ripoti ya BBC World Service nayo ni Conspiracy Theorists?! ... kwahiyo na BBC World Service ni maadui wa Marekani wanaeneza uongo?!!

Ripoti yao BBC ya kutunguliwa ndege ni ya Uongo?!

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Link BBC:

Kwenye official website ya BBC na Video

. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20209770

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Mjadala kuhusu kutunguliwa kwa ndege ya F-117 UMEFUNGWA


Nawaacha na Taarifa katika Website ya BBC kuhusu ilo tukio (Mkitaka ubishi tena kabishaneni na BBC kwenye Website yao!


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BBC: Foes now friends: US stealth pilot and the Serb who shot him down

By Guy De Launey
BBC News, Belgrade
6 November 2012


A former US Air Force pilot and the man who shot his stealth plane down during Nato's operation in Serbia have struck a remarkable friendship.

Breaking bread with the enemy is one thing. Making it together is a step that former foes do not usually take.

But in Zoltan Dani's kitchen, that is exactly what is happening. Once the commander of a crack Yugoslav anti-aircraft rocket unit, the former colonel has swapped his camouflage for an apron and now runs a successful bakery.

Even more remarkably, kneading the dough beside him is former United States Air Force pilot, Dale Zelko.

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From foes to friends: Dale Zelko and Zoltan Dani say they feel like brothers now

The two men were on opposite sides in 1999, when Nato air strikes rocked Belgrade and other key targets. And they were the protagonists in one of the most remarkable incidents of Operation Allied Force.

Dale Zelko flew the F117 "stealth fighter" - a warplane so advanced that it was all but invisible to enemy radar.

But on the night of 27 March 1999 he was uncomfortable. Weather conditions meant the stealth fighters would not have their usual escort of "Prowler" electronic jamming planes or F16s firing anti-radar missiles.

"I'd never felt so strongly - if there was ever a night, a mission for an F117 to get shot down, it would be this one. I wasn't surprised when it happened," he says.

'Nice shot'

We're saying to people that peace is much better than war. The most important thing is that we communicate and become very good friends

Dale Zelko

Zoltan Dani had problems of his own. He commanded a unit which was low on resources and vulnerable to attack by the F16s. But his men were not short on morale or skill.

Each night he would move his unit from place to place - operating the equipment in 20-second bursts to avoid the attention of anti-radar missiles.

Citing Serbian electronics genius Nikola Tesla as an inspiration, Zoltan had the equipment modified so it would operate beyond the usual wavelengths.

Perhaps it was this which allowed him to detect Dale Zelko's stealth fighter.
"When it hit, it felt very, very good. Like scoring the winning goal in a football match," says Mr Dani.

The US pilot's perspective was naturally a little different. But once he had ejected from his now uncontrollable plane, Mr Zelko had some surprisingly generous thoughts.

"I thought about the Serbian SAM (surface-to-air missile) operator, imagining having a coffee and conversation with this guy, saying to him: 'Really nice shot.' I had this huge respect for him and the Serbian people."

The wreckage of Mr Zelko's plane is now in Belgrade's museum

This, perhaps, helps to explain why Mr Zelko was so receptive when the idea of meeting the man who shot him down was first floated.
'Message of peace'

The initial suggestion came from Mr Dani's son, Atila, who had seen footage of Dale online. It was taken up by Serbian documentary-maker Zeljko Mirkovic, who was then completing a film about the former rocket unit commander called The 21st Second.

He contacted the now-retired pilot via the US Air Force. And for Dale Zelko it could not have been a more welcome communication.

"As soon as I read the idea of meeting the man who shot me down, my immediate reaction was: yes, absolutely - and I became obsessed with the idea. I felt I had to connect deeply and personally with this person and the Serbian people. It became a mission of passion for me."

Several years of correspondence followed. The two former military men say they shared their stories, emotions and ideas as they worked towards a face-to-face encounter.

That finally came last year - with Zeljko Mirkovic's camera also in attendance. His documentary about the relationship between Dale and Zoltan is called The Second Meeting. And he thinks its story is relevant around the world.

"Our three families - Dale's, mine, Zoltan's - shared the same values, about believing in the family, believing in peace. We all believed we had the right to send the message - hope, peace - which could be accepted universally."

But the relationship between the two old adversaries has gone far beyond the boundaries of the film. They have exchanged visits to each other's homes - and their children and wives have also struck up friendships.

Three members of the Zelko family came to Serbia for a week of premieres of The Second Meeting. They stayed at the Dani family home in Kovin, a short distance from Belgrade.

It was striking how comfortable the two families were in each other's company: the older, dark-haired Dani children acting like older siblings to the pre-teen, blonde-haired Zelkos. Meanwhile, the two fathers relaxed with home cooking and coffee.

'Human element'

Still, the friendship has thrown up some intriguing philosophical conundrums. Particularly for Dale Zelko, who first went to Serbia to make war, but returned to make friends.

"I had a question from the audience at the Belgrade premiere: 'After developing a real personal relationship between the families, could you go back in a combat machine against Serbia?' I said absolutely not, that would be impossible. You can no longer remove the human element from it."

The pair hope their story will send a message of tolerance and understanding around the world.

Emerging from another hug with the man who came to bomb his country but whom he now calls brother, Zoltan Dani is happy to be viewed as an example.

"We found a solution to this problem and we're showing other people how to do it. We're saying to people that peace is much better than war. The most important thing is that we communicate and become very good friends - share emotions and feelings."

He smiles, and glances over at the oven.

"And besides apple strudel, we make chocolate cake.

Link BBC:

Kwenye official website ya BBC na Video

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20209770


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