What makes you think "Mr. Braun" needs to be informed about the origin of Obama? The article I posted already states why "Mr. Braun" calls Obama his slave. The reason is Obama is black and "Mr. Braun" does not like him (Obama). What kind of Black or Obama's ancestry is irrelevant to "Mr. Braun".
So you are referring to Manji as a Monkey, fine. But let me ask you a question, if a Monkey (Manji) manages to outsmart, exploit and get rich off your back what does that make or say about you?
Why do I care to dispute something that happened so long ago and has little to no effect on my life today? Perhaps you should be concerned about who is indentured slave today in East Africa. Here is a hint...it ain't the "Wadosi" and it ain't the "Wazungu"
What makes you think "Mr. Braun" needs to be informed about the origin of Obama? The article I posted already states why "Mr. Braun" calls Obama his slave. The reason is Obama is black and "Mr. Braun" does not like him (Obama). What kind of Black or Obama's ancestry is irrelevant to "Mr. Braun".
So you are referring to Manji as a Monkey, fine. But let me ask you a question, if a Monkey (Manji) manages to outsmart, exploit and get rich off your back what does that make or say about you?
I]Why do I care to dispute something that happened so long ago and has little to no effect on my life today[/I]? Perhaps you should be concerned about who is indentured slave today in East Africa. Here is a hint...it ain't the "Wadosi" and it ain't the "Wazungu"
Lets face it Monkey Supporter: the fact of the matter is Obama the Black beat Caucasian Clinton in the actual vote tally to win the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Thats it and thats that. Nobody gives a hoot if fringe clowns like "Mr Braun" call Obama a slave and despise him for simply being Black. Obama won. Clinton lost. Case closed.
Applying more or less the same line of reasoning, I, for one, do not stand the very sight of Wadosi scum and think they all resemble monkeys. But regardless of my subjectively held beliefs and prejudices, this doesn't stop busines savvy suave monkeys like Manji from enriching themselves through illicit wheeling and dealing in my very own country.
Thats beyond the issue. The fact that you've conceded (at least implicitly) that you as a Mdosi most probably are descended from slaves and coolies brought to Africa from India, and African American Obama is not is all that matters here.
Oh really? Then why was the person wearing the T-shirt that says "Obama is my slave" assaulted? See the quote below from the story I posted
When a 25-year-old Manhattan graduate student who was assaulted Tuesday night got dressed that morning, she probably didnt anticipate that her T-shirt would provoke four teens into shoving her, pulling out her earphones and spitting in her face.
Obviously somebody cares (at least four teens). Obviously you care as you wouldn't have replied to my post.
I am not going to address this monkey business any further because it will simply lead to me being banned from the forum. I have made my point so I'll let you have the last laugh on this point.
By any definition of the word slavery or slaves, it could certainly be applied towards Africans during colonialism. In fact during colonialism, Africans had it worse than "Wadosi" when you really look at it. But again being a descendant of a slave is not the reason why "Mr. Braun" called Obama his slave. We have gone through this explanation. I don't care to repeat myself.
Nadhani kuna misunderstanding hapa, maana BIscuit maine alifikiri unatetea hii issue. Lakini labda ungetueleza lengo la kupost this story.
I find it very disgusting and offensive for someone to wear a tshirt like that and it is downright racist.
But again being a descendant of a slave is not the reason why "Mr. Braun" called Obama his slave. We have gone through this explanation. I don't care to repeat myself.
The article I posted already states why "Mr. Braun" calls Obama his slave. The reason is Obama is black and "Mr. Braun" does not like him (Obama). What kind of Black or Obama's ancestry is irrelevant to "Mr. Braun".
I have not excused Biscuit! I have personally been outspoken critic of racism on this forum, the moderators can testify to that! I don't tolerate racism in any form!Come on, don't excuse Biscuit's racist rant towards "Wadosi" as misunderstanding. If I had break out a similar rant towards Africans I would have been banned immediately from the forum no matter the circumstances. As far as the story is concerned I am not endorsing it, I simply posted it because I found it interesting and related to this thread.
Who are you trying to fool now, Monkey Supporter? You just claimed above that "Mr. Braun" did what he did because Obama happens to be Black. This is what you wrote earlier:
Now what exactly made you arrive to that kind of conclusion when in the article we are told that:
I cant stand Obama, Braun says, adding that its not because the Illinois senator is black. Thats the only thing I like about him. He opens the door for other minorities.
Who are you trying to fool now, Monkey Supporter? You just claimed above that "Mr. Braun" did what he did because Obama happens to be Black. This is what you wrote earlier:
Now what exactly made you arrive to that kind of conclusion when in the article we are told that:
I cant stand Obama, Braun says, adding that its not because the Illinois senator is black. Thats the only thing I like about him. He opens the door for other minorities.
So, its clear that you are dead wrong! "Mr. Braun" has nothing against Obama's Blackness and in fact appreciates the visibility that Obama carries it with him.
You are still up to your old ways of twisting and bending the simple truth in order to fit your narrow anti-African agenda, aren't you, Monkey Supporter?
I have not excused Biscuit! I have personally been outspoken critic of racism on this forum, the moderators can testify to that! I don't tolerate racism in any form!
But I was more interested in your opinion because you started this discussion by posting the article and pix. You said you found it 'intersting' not shocking, disgusting, racist, moronic etc. Why did you just find it interesting? What is interesting in an incident of a racist person who gets beaten up for wearing a racist t-shirt?
No, there was no need for me to use those adjectives i.e. shocking, disgusting, racist, moronic, etc. I would have used them if you too would have used those same adjectives on what Biscuit's posted about "Wadosi" but you haven't so far. If you had taken this moral upper-hand then perhaps I might have and your question would have been answered.
Sasa Babu Lieberman naona ni afadhali abaki kumshauri babu McCain alafu watakapomaliza usanii wao waende wakapumzike kama retirees (I am sure hata hiyo senate seat yake haijakaa vizuri)If Barack Obama has a problem among Jewish voters, then Sen. Joseph Lieberman is in monumental trouble.
Among the most high-profile Jews in Congress, Lieberman is viewed far more unfavorably than the presumptive Democratic nominee, according to a new poll. Only 37 percent of Jews view the Connecticut Independent in a favorable light compared to 48 percent who have a negative perception. As for Obama, 60 percent of Jews view him favorably while 34 percent view him unfavorably.
The findings were released as part of a recent survey of American Jews by the new progressive pro-Israel group J Street. They seem to upturn some of this year's conventional political wisdom.
Obama, who is set to travel to Israel this week, is often described in the press as facing significant obstacles to winning Jewish support, in part because of false claims that he is a Muslim. Lieberman, meanwhile, is regularly quoted disparaging Obama's credentials on topics considered dear to the Jewish voter's heart: toughness on Iran and support for the Jewish state. Asked recently whether he should be questioning Obama's commitment to Israel, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee responded, "why wouldn't I do that?"
Biscuit, I think that this can be an interesting discussion, but we should avoid name-calling because it degenerates any intellectual debate into base, ugly shouting matches.
The fear of many whites is that Obama will opne the door for minorities,and there are African Americans who think that Obama presidency will mean more Black power, but I think that Obama is new generation not Anko Jesse (Jackson) generation and he thinks differently. Just see the controversial remarks of Jesse Jackson Sr on Fox news, he thinks that Obama is selling out, but he doesn't understand that for BO it is not about civil rights movement, it is about United America.
I find the t-shirt incident a minor blimp on the radar and there is more to come, but it is good because the more virulent, racist people are, the more support BO gets!
Kuangalizia ni tatizo kubwa la kidunia kwa viongozi wengi.......muuaji Joji kichaka ni namba moja kuna wakti alikuwa anawekewa vispika vidoogo masikioni awe anasaidiwa kujibu maswali ya waandihi....aliweza Mzee kifimbo peke yake.....Sema lingineLeo nimecheka sana. Unajua Obama bila teleprompter au bila prepared notes huwa anachemka sana. Kwenye mkutano wake na waandishi wa habari leo alishikwa na kigugumizi cha ajabu. Huyu jamaa ni fraud tu...hana lolote.
Leo nimecheka sana. Unajua Obama bila teleprompter au bila prepared notes huwa anachemka sana. Kwenye mkutano wake na waandishi wa habari leo alishikwa na kigugumizi cha ajabu. Huyu jamaa ni fraud tu...hana lolote.
During a CBS interview on Tuesday, John McCain made a stone cold error on a subject about which he claims expert knowledge: the "surge" strategy in Iraq. In an interview with anchor Katie Couric, the Arizona Republican said, inaccurately, that the surge strategy was responsible for the much-touted "Anbar Awakening," in which Sunni sheiks turned against Al Qaeda, helping in turn to reduce violence in the country.
From the transcript:
Katie Couric: Senator McCain, Senator Obama says, while the increased number of US troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?
McCain: I don't know how you respond to something that is as-- such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel MacFarland was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that's just a matter of history.
In fact, as Spencer Ackerman and Ilan Goldenberg have reported, the record firmly establishes the opposite: instead of being caused by the surge, the key signs of the Anbar Awakening occurred not only before that strategy was implemented, but before it was ever conceived.
Yet McCain's error was not seen by any CBS Evening News viewers. As MSNBC's Keith Olbermann noted (video below), "CBS curiously, to say the least, left it on the edit room floor. It aired Katie Couric's question, but in response, it aired part of McCain's answer to the other question instead." (Ironically, this edit came on the same day that McCain's campaign released a video mocking the media's "love affair" with Obama.)
The fact remains, however, that the military official cited by McCain, then-Colonel Sean MacFarland, described the Anbar Awakening in September 2006 -- four months before the "surge" was even announced -- noting that tribal leaders were "stepping forward and cooperating with the Iraqi security forces against Al Qaeda." Moreover, a military review written by MacFarland notes that his unit actually left Anbar before most of the surge troops arrived; his success in the region came between June 2006 and February 2007.