Tanzania ready to send Army to Zimbabwe-Kikwete

[Masanja]

Waungwana, mi naomba niunge mkono hii Kauli ya mheshimiwa rais, UNPOPULAR AS IT MAY SEEM, I might disagree with his policies sometimes, but here I have to commend him. why?

1. Millions of Africans have died in conflicts since independence period and the only reason we could advance was non intervention in internal matters. Those who tried hard were rebeled as western proxies and agents. Now we always argue that we should take charge of our own problems, but when and how can Africa do it? Believe it or not, swala la Zimbabwe linatufanya waafrika wote tuonekane mahayawani wa kutupwa! so is Darfur and the rest. The best we can do is to use "COLONIAL CARD" TO ESCAPE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Yes, we might say lets use diplomacy for Zimbawe, but let us all here in this forum, THINK ni diplomacy gani ambayo Mugabe anaweza kuisikiliza au kuikubali? Reasonably what can AU/SADC or UN do? Mugabe ameashaamua kwamba has nothing to lose and all he wants is to remain in power, because the alternative will be worse for him.

JK is a continental Chairman of AU, to me ana mzigo mzito sana na usifikiri kwamba yeye ni mjinga, hiyo kauli ya kuingia Zimbabwe kijeshi (kama kweli aliitoa) it was calculated and thought of. It will be certainly a multilateral project as Africa union.

Colleagues ilipofika Zimbabwe, haisaidiki tena. Hakuna anayependa vita, lakini when need be, its the only language dictators can listen to. And in this I salute JK, maana hii idea ingetolewa na western countries sijui kama hapa JF na majanvi mengine ya kiafrika kama kungetosha..watu tungepiga kelele tuu kwamba ni mbinu ya regime change ya Western countries.

Folks, lazima tufike point tukubali, kama waafrika, we need to be responsible. SOVEREIGNITY GOES WITH RESPONSIBILITY. Huwezi kuua watu, simply because wewe ni raisi! No way! Hatuwezi kuwavumilia watu kama wakina Mugabe simply because ni weusi wenzetu. athari za utawala wa Mugabe ndo matokeo yake kila nchi sasa inazifeel..kama xenophobic huko South....almost nguvu kazi yote ya nchi imekuwa wakimbizi because of one person, na huko wakimbizio walipo ndo matatizo yanazidi... Hivi unafikiri wazimbabwe, watu wa Darfur nk wanajisikiaje..wanaposoma kuhusu AU, UN nk..wakati wanakufa na hawawezi kusaidiwa?

Its time haya mashirika yaside na wananchi na wala si madiktator akina Mugabe.

Kwamba TANZANIA TUNA MAFISADI, EPA, RICHMOND NK, HAITUONDOLEI WAJIBU WA KUCHANGIA JUHUDI ZA KUWAPA NAFASI WAAFRIKA WENZETU NAO WAPIGANE NA EPA NA RICHMOND ZAO (MAANA NA WAO WANA ZA KWAO)..ILA WANAWEZA KUFANYA HIVYO WAKIWA NA AMANI. Jiulize tungekuwa kama Zimbabwe au Darfur..tungeweza kujadili akina EPA NA KAKA ZAKE RICHMOND NA KIWIRA? WE CANT DELEGATE OUR RESPONSIBILITY JUST BY MERE AND ENDLESS EXCUSES ZA UBEPARI.

UN SECURITY COUNCIL HATUTEGEMEI KITU..KUNA CHINA NA RUSSIA..ANOTHER DESPOTS INTERESTED IN AFRICAN RESOURCES AND NOT ITS PEOPLE. SWALA LA ZIMABWE NI LETU WAAFRIKA, TUACHE VISINGIZIO KAMA VYA BRAZA MUSHI..KWAMBA TUMEINGILIWA NA WAZUNGU NOO..

I would propose JK aitishe mkutano wa AU..wa-map njia muafaka. Perhaps waanze na sanctions za silaha na mengine yatafuata as time goes by!

JK, you are the only hope remaining, maana Mbeki has proved hopeless and useless for our continent1 Kifupi jamaa kadissapoint kabisa. Surely Africa tulipofika hatuhitaji kuambiwa madhara ya watu kama akina Mugabe. And I say its totally wrong..kuendeleza hii game ya "colonial card" kukwepa wajibu wetu...

 

[jmushi1]

Waungwana, mi naomba niunge mkono hii Kauli ya mheshimiwa rais, UNPOPULAR AS IT MAY SEEM, I might disagree with his policies sometimes, but here I have to commend him. why?

1. Millions of Africans have died in conflicts since independence period and the only reason we could advance was non intervention in internal matters. Those who tried hard were rebeled as western proxies and agents. Now we always argue that we should take charge of our own problems, but when and how can Africa do it? Believe it or not, swala la Zimbabwe linatufanya waafrika wote tuonekane mahayawani wa kutupwa! so is Darfur and the rest. The best we can do is to use "COLONIAL CARD" TO ESCAPE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Yes, we might say lets use diplomacy for Zimbawe, but let us all here in this forum, THINK ni diplomacy gani ambayo Mugabe anaweza kuisikiliza au kuikubali? Reasonably what can AU/SADC or UN do? Mugabe ameashaamua kwamba has nothing to lose and all he wants is to remain in power, because the alternative will be worse for him.

JK is a continental Chairman of AU, to me ana mzigo mzito sana na usifikiri kwamba yeye ni mjinga, hiyo kauli ya kuingia Zimbabwe kijeshi (kama kweli aliitoa) it was calculated and thought of. It will be certainly a multilateral project as Africa union.

Colleagues ilipofika Zimbabwe, haisaidiki tena. Hakuna anayependa vita, lakini when need be, its the only language dictators can listen to. And in this I salute JK, maana hii idea ingetolewa na western countries sijui kama hapa JF na majanvi mengine ya kiafrika kama kungetosha..watu tungepiga kelele tuu kwamba ni mbinu ya regime change ya Western countries.

Folks, lazima tufike point tukubali, kama waafrika, we need to be responsible. SOVEREIGNITY GOES WITH RESPONSIBILITY. Huwezi kuua watu, simply because wewe ni raisi! No way! Hatuwezi kuwavumilia watu kama wakina Mugabe simply because ni weusi wenzetu. athari za utawala wa Mugabe ndo matokeo yake kila nchi sasa inazifeel..kama xenophobic huko South....almost nguvu kazi yote ya nchi imekuwa wakimbizi because of one person, na huko wakimbizio walipo ndo matatizo yanazidi... Hivi unafikiri wazimbabwe, watu wa Darfur nk wanajisikiaje..wanaposoma kuhusu AU, UN nk..wakati wanakufa na hawawezi kusaidiwa?

Its time haya mashirika yaside na wananchi na wala si madiktator akina Mugabe.

Kwamba TANZANIA TUNA MAFISADI, EPA, RICHMOND NK, HAITUONDOLEI WAJIBU WA KUCHANGIA JUHUDI ZA KUWAPA NAFASI WAAFRIKA WENZETU NAO WAPIGANE NA EPA NA RICHMOND ZAO (MAANA NA WAO WANA ZA KWAO)..ILA WANAWEZA KUFANYA HIVYO WAKIWA NA AMANI. Jiulize tungekuwa kama Zimbabwe au Darfur..tungeweza kujadili akina EPA NA KAKA ZAKE RICHMOND NA KIWIRA? WE CANT DELEGATE OUR RESPONSIBILITY JUST BY MERE AND ENDLESS EXCUSES ZA UBEPARI.

UN SECURITY COUNCIL HATUTEGEMEI KITU..KUNA CHINA NA RUSSIA..ANOTHER DESPOTS INTERESTED IN AFRICAN RESOURCES AND NOT ITS PEOPLE. SWALA LA ZIMABWE NI LETU WAAFRIKA, TUACHE VISINGIZIO KAMA VYA BRAZA MUSHI..KWAMBA TUMEINGILIWA NA WAZUNGU NOO..

I would propose JK aitishe mkutano wa AU..wa-map njia muafaka. Perhaps waanze na sanctions za silaha na mengine yatafuata as time goes by!

JK, you are the only hope remaining, maana Mbeki has proved hopeless and useless for our continent1 Kifupi jamaa kadissapoint kabisa. Surely Africa tulipofika hatuhitaji kuambiwa madhara ya watu kama akina Mugabe. And I say its totally wrong..kuendeleza hii game ya "colonial card" kukwepa wajibu wetu...

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The New Scramble for and Pertition Of Africa!
A new "scramble for Africa" is taking place among the world's big powers, who are tapping into the continent for its oil and diamonds.

Tony Blair is pushing hard for African debt relief agreements in the run-up to the G8 summit in Scotland in July. But while sub-Saharan Africa is the object of the west's charitable concern, billions of pounds' worth of natural resources are being removed from it.
A Guardian investigation beginning today reveals that instead of enriching often debt-ridden countries, some big corporations are accused by campaigners of facilitating corruption and provoking instability - so much so that organisations such as Friends of the Earth talk of an "oil curse".
Simon Taylor, director of Global Witness, which has been prominent in urging reform, said: "Western companies and banks have colluded in stripping Africa's resources. We need to track revenues from oil, mining and logging into national budgets to make sure that the money isn't siphoned off by corrupt officials."
Looting of state assets by corrupt leaders should become a crime under international law, he said.
"The G8 should take the lead in this."
The original Scramble for Africa took place in the late 19th century, when Britain, France and Germany competed to carve Africa into colonies.
Today corporations from the US, France, Britain and China are competing to profit from the rulers of often chaotic and corrupt regimes.
Our investigations in three African countries rich in resources - Angola, Equatorial Guinea and Liberia - show how British-based companies have negotiated deals that critics say are against the interests of some of the poorest and most traumatised people on earth.
The Guardian's inquiries focus on a big gas project in Equatorial Guinea; plans to exploit Liberia's diamonds, and western banks' readiness to provide Angola with huge oil-backed loans.
In Equatorial Guinea, BG plc (formerly the British Gas state company) has closed a deal with the regime of President Teodoro Obiang to buy up the country's production of liquefied natural gas for the next 17 years.
Britain's HSBC bank has been accused by a US Senate committee of helping Mr Obiang move cash from the country's oil revenues into financial "black holes" in Luxembourg and Cyprus. The country is threatened with repeated coups by outsiders keen to get their hands on the oil wealth.
In Liberia, which has been beset by civil war, LIB, a private London bank, was behind attempts to monopolise alluvial diamond production and the country's telecommunications. The UN and the World Bank have criticised the schemes as secretive and against the country's interests. LIB has now withdrawn.
And in Angola, the victim of an even more destructive internal war, one of the UK's leading development banks, Standard Chartered, has been accused of damaging the country's economy by providing record multibillion dollar loans which give a stranglehold over future oil production.
A succession of scandals has already revealed how oil wealth was looted in billions from the former Abacha military regime in Nigeria with the assistance of western banks and bribes paid by US oil firms.
In Sudan and Chad, Chinese companies are moving in, backing and arming military rulers and building pipelines.
And in France, the then state oil company Elf has been accused in corruption investigations of having paid kickbacks and encouraged regimes to run up debts as part of a deliberate "African strategy".
Congo-Brazzaville, the fourth-largest sub-Saharan oil producer, was dominated by Elf, and now has the highest per capita debt in the world.
Global Witness says in a 2004 report: "Oil wealth [there] has left a legacy of corruption, poverty and conflict."
The British government is pushing an international plan for disclosure by companies of how much they pay African rulers for their natural resources. The Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative has been praised by anti-corruption bodies.
But campaigners say that on present evidence improvements in western behaviour so far appear slight. And they fear the chances of these issues being raised as priorities at the G8 summit at Gleneagles in July remain bleak as EU countries quibble about levels of aid and the US balks at innovative schemes for debt relief. Gareth Thomas, the international development minister, said Britain hoped to have 20 African countries signed up to the transparency code by the end of the year. "There is big political support for this programme and we will be addressing the issue in the G8 summit communique," he said.

 

[jmushi1]

Makaburu wanawaingiza viongozi wetu kwenye UFISADI HALAFU WANAKUJA KUITUMIA SABABU HIYO HIYO KUWASOKOMEZEA MASLAHI YAO KOONI MWETU!
ZITTO...WE NEED OUR COUTRY BACK!

 

[jmushi1]

Waungwana, mi naomba niunge mkono hii Kauli ya mheshimiwa rais, UNPOPULAR AS IT MAY SEEM, I might disagree with his policies sometimes, but here I have to commend him. why?

1. Millions of Africans have died in conflicts since independence period and the only reason we could advance was non intervention in internal matters. Those who tried hard were rebeled as western proxies and agents. Now we always argue that we should take charge of our own problems, but when and how can Africa do it? Believe it or not, swala la Zimbabwe linatufanya waafrika wote tuonekane mahayawani wa kutupwa! so is Darfur and the rest. The best we can do is to use "COLONIAL CARD" TO ESCAPE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Yes, we might say lets use diplomacy for Zimbawe, but let us all here in this forum, THINK ni diplomacy gani ambayo Mugabe anaweza kuisikiliza au kuikubali? Reasonably what can AU/SADC or UN do? Mugabe ameashaamua kwamba has nothing to lose and all he wants is to remain in power, because the alternative will be worse for him.

JK is a continental Chairman of AU, to me ana mzigo mzito sana na usifikiri kwamba yeye ni mjinga, hiyo kauli ya kuingia Zimbabwe kijeshi (kama kweli aliitoa) it was calculated and thought of. It will be certainly a multilateral project as Africa union.

Colleagues ilipofika Zimbabwe, haisaidiki tena. Hakuna anayependa vita, lakini when need be, its the only language dictators can listen to. And in this I salute JK, maana hii idea ingetolewa na western countries sijui kama hapa JF na majanvi mengine ya kiafrika kama kungetosha..watu tungepiga kelele tuu kwamba ni mbinu ya regime change ya Western countries.

Folks, lazima tufike point tukubali, kama waafrika, we need to be responsible. SOVEREIGNITY GOES WITH RESPONSIBILITY. Huwezi kuua watu, simply because wewe ni raisi! No way! Hatuwezi kuwavumilia watu kama wakina Mugabe simply because ni weusi wenzetu. athari za utawala wa Mugabe ndo matokeo yake kila nchi sasa inazifeel..kama xenophobic huko South....almost nguvu kazi yote ya nchi imekuwa wakimbizi because of one person, na huko wakimbizio walipo ndo matatizo yanazidi... Hivi unafikiri wazimbabwe, watu wa Darfur nk wanajisikiaje..wanaposoma kuhusu AU, UN nk..wakati wanakufa na hawawezi kusaidiwa?

Its time haya mashirika yaside na wananchi na wala si madiktator akina Mugabe.

Kwamba TANZANIA TUNA MAFISADI, EPA, RICHMOND NK, HAITUONDOLEI WAJIBU WA KUCHANGIA JUHUDI ZA KUWAPA NAFASI WAAFRIKA WENZETU NAO WAPIGANE NA EPA NA RICHMOND ZAO (MAANA NA WAO WANA ZA KWAO)..ILA WANAWEZA KUFANYA HIVYO WAKIWA NA AMANI. Jiulize tungekuwa kama Zimbabwe au Darfur..tungeweza kujadili akina EPA NA KAKA ZAKE RICHMOND NA KIWIRA? WE CANT DELEGATE OUR RESPONSIBILITY JUST BY MERE AND ENDLESS EXCUSES ZA UBEPARI.

UN SECURITY COUNCIL HATUTEGEMEI KITU..KUNA CHINA NA RUSSIA..ANOTHER DESPOTS INTERESTED IN AFRICAN RESOURCES AND NOT ITS PEOPLE. SWALA LA ZIMABWE NI LETU WAAFRIKA, TUACHE VISINGIZIO KAMA VYA BRAZA MUSHI..KWAMBA TUMEINGILIWA NA WAZUNGU NOO..

I would propose JK aitishe mkutano wa AU..wa-map njia muafaka. Perhaps waanze na sanctions za silaha na mengine yatafuata as time goes by!

JK, you are the only hope remaining, maana Mbeki has proved hopeless and useless for our continent1 Kifupi jamaa kadissapoint kabisa. Surely Africa tulipofika hatuhitaji kuambiwa madhara ya watu kama akina Mugabe. And I say its totally wrong..kuendeleza hii game ya "colonial card" kukwepa wajibu wetu...

Makamu wa raisi wa BUSH...DICK CHENNEY ALIKATAA MANDELA ASITOLEWE JELA KWA KUPIGA KURA HUKO KWENYE CONGRESS.
HAWA WATU NDIO MNASEMA WANAWASAIDIA KUMTOA MKOLONI...MKOLONI YUPI HUYO WASIYEMPENDA BUSH NA CHENNEY?
NATAKA JIBU KUWA MKOLONI NI NANI!

 

[Kevo]

huyu rais anataka tuwe police of africa ama nini?jamani tanzania hamna empeachment?na kwa nini bunge lisikatae yaani South Africa hawaja propose kitu kama hiko huyu kashaanza.
Nimechoka

 

[jmushi1]

WASHINGTON — Nobel Peace Prize winner and international symbol of freedom Nelson Mandela is flagged on U.S. terrorist watch lists and needs special permission to visit the USA. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice calls the situation "embarrassing," and some members of Congress vow to fix it.

The requirement applies to former South African leader Mandela and other members of South Africa's governing African National Congress (ANC), the once-banned anti-Apartheid organization. In the 1970s and '80s, the ANC was officially designated a terrorist group by the country's ruling white minority. Other countries, including the United States, followed suit.

Because of this, Rice told a Senate committee recently, her department has to issue waivers for ANC members to travel to the USA.

"This is a country with which we now have excellent relations, South Africa, but it's frankly a rather embarrassing matter that I still have to waive in my own counterpart, the foreign minister of South Africa, not to mention the great leader Nelson Mandela," Rice said.

Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., chairman of the House International Relations Committee, is pushing a bill that would remove current and former ANC leaders from the watch lists. Supporters hope to get it passed before Mandela's 90th birthday July 18.


"What an indignity," Berman said. "The ANC set an important example: It successfully made the change from armed struggle to peace. We should celebrate the transformation."

In 1990, Mandela was freed after 27 years in prison for crimes committed during the struggle against Apartheid, a repressive regime that subjugated black South Africans. In 1994, he was elected South Africa's first black president.

Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., called ANC members' inclusion on watch lists a "bureaucratic snafu" and pledged to fix the problem.

Members of other groups deemed a terrorist threat, such as Hamas, also are on the watch lists.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff says "common sense" suggests Mandela should be removed. He says the issue "raises a troubling and difficult debate about what groups are considered terrorists and which are not."

When ANC members apply for visas to the USA, they are flagged for questioning and need a waiver to be allowed in the country. In 2002, former ANC chairman Tokyo Sexwale was denied a visa. In 2007, Barbara Masekela, South Africa's ambassador to the United States from 2002 to 2006, was denied a visa to visit her ailing cousin and didn't get a waiver until after the cousin had died, Berman's legislation says. ----USA TODAY
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[jmushi1]

Unaona hayo ZITTO?
MSIMAMO WA MANDELA NA BUSH NI SAWA?
JE UNAMCHAGUA BUSH OVER MANDELA KWA MASLAHI YA NANI?
NA MKOLONI MNAYEMTOA HUKO ZIM NI YUPI HUYO?
MCHINA?
Acheni hayo mambo ndugu zangu!
TURUDISHE NCHI KWA WANANCHI!
MKONO WA SINCLAIR HAUPO KWELI?

 

[jmushi1]

Mimi Niko Hapa Usa Nampinga Kikwete Kwasabau Ya Ufisadi...sasa Ni Kuchongeana?
Na Kama Kikwete Akimuondoa Mugabe Madarakani Kwa Damu Ya Watanzania...then Haki Ya Ufisadi Ni Lini Mtajadili?
Je Bunge Lina Muda Kiasi Gani?
Umeomba muda wa mjadala bungeni Uongezwe Kwasababu Kwa Bahati Mbaya Vita Imetokea Wakati Wa Bunge?

 

[Masanja]

huyu rais anataka tuwe police of africa ama nini?jamani tanzania hamna empeachment?na kwa nini bunge lisikatae yaani South Africa hawaja propose kitu kama hiko huyu kashaanza.
Nimechoka

Excuse me sir! Who is South Africa?

Should our foreign policy be determined by South Africa? Please...we are better than what you think!

 

[Gaijin]

bado kikwete na nyinyi zitto hamjatupa convincing points za kutuambia ni kwanini twende vitani zimbabwe.
au kwa kuwa baba wa taifa alipandisha mwenge wa uhuru kilimanjaro?
hoja zenu hazijitoshelezi.

 

[NaimaOmari]

at the end of the day tunapata nini .... pengine this is a business inatuingizia kipato ??? or we are becoming the UN themselves

 

[Kuhani]

Nkrumah alisema, mkesha wa uhuru wa ghana 6 machi 57, kwamba uhuru wa ghana hauna maana yeyote kama kuna nchi za kiafrika bado zatawaliwa na mkoloni. Mwl. Nyerere naye akapandisha mwenge juu ya mlima kilimanjaro ili umulike, kuleta upendo palipo na chuki, matumaini na heshma. Hiyo ni sera ya mambo ya nje. Hatuwezi kukaa watz na kusema eti tuna matatizo yetu na tuwaache wazim wanauwawa na kugandamizwa na kunyanyaswa na mtu mmoja. Suala la zimbabwe si suala la kikwete au ccm, ni wajibu wetu ktk bara letu. Haiwezekani afrika itafsiriwe kwa zim na mugabe. Ikihitajika, ama kwa kulinda amani au kumtoa dikteta na twende. Hatufuati mafuta zim, hatufuati madini, tunawasaidia wazim kuishi kwa amani. Kama ni chimurenga na iwe. Hatuwezi kufumbia macho yanayoendelea zim eti kuogopa wazungu. Wajibu kwa afrika, ni usalama wa taifa.!

Zitto mbona kaweka tundiko halafu kaingia mitini? Kitaa chake bado cha kijani lakini hajibu hoja, sijui vipi tena.

Zitto, sikia, kabla hujaondoka, naomba nikuulize swali kuhusu hii mada muhimu kwako ya Zimbabwe Mkuu:

Zile habari za kwamba Harare wamemwita Balozi wao nyumbani umezipata wapi?

Kama Zimbabwe haijasema hivyo rasmi, umewezaje kulisoma hilo tukio kama ni diplomatic conflict na kuliambia Bunge na sisi Tanzania turudishe wakwetu nyumbani?

Pole na kazi za Bunge Mheshimiwa. Ahsante.

 

[jmushi1]

Zimbabwe na Zambia...Former South and Northern RHODESIA Zinagombewa na wamarekani na wachina.
Tusijiingize kwenye vita kama hivyo na wakati tuna matatizo ya umasikini uliokithiri!
Hivi hamjui hata vita vya IRAQ WAMAREKANI...At least wananchi wenyewe wanasema havikuwa worthy?

 

[Masanja]

Mimi Niko Hapa Usa Nampinga Kikwete Kwasabau Ya Ufisadi...sasa Ni Kuchongeana?
Na Kama Kikwete Akimuondoa Mugabe Madarakani Kwa Damu Ya Watanzania...then Haki Ya Ufisadi Ni Lini Mtajadili?
Je Bunge Lina Muda Kiasi Gani?
Umeomba muda wa mjadala bungeni Uongezwe Kwasababu Kwa Bahati Mbaya Vita Imetokea Wakati Wa Bunge?

Mushi we might agree that JK is wrong at times in his policies, lakini hiyo haiondoi ukweli kwamba kuna mambo mengine, wengine tunakubaliana nayo. Na hilo mi nadhani ndo uzuri wa demokrasia. Kwamba sipendi JK anavyoshindwa kupambana na ufisadi, haina maana kwamba kila kitu akifanyacho is wrong. Mind you, Iam not a CCM or Chadema or anywhere..IAM INDEPENDENT..SO I look at things objectively. Akikosea nasema, akifanya jambo ninalokubaliana nalo I support him. Kwa hili la Zimbabwe I agree with HIS EXCELLENCY!

Kwamba Dick Cheney alivote Mandela kuwa terrorist..to me sishangai..ilikuwa foreign policy yao. FMES alishasema, kwenye siasa hakuna permanent truth! Leo Hamas ni gaidi..usishangae in twenty years Hamas akawa best ally wa USA na Israel..thats politics....only permanent interests no permanent friends...

 

[jmushi1]

Mushi we might agree that JK is wrong at times in his policies, lakini hiyo haiondoi ukweli kwamba kuna mambo mengine, wengine tunakubaliana nayo. Na hilo mi nadhani ndo uzuri wa demokrasia. Kwamba sipendi JK anavyoshindwa kupambana na ufisadi, haina maana kwamba kila kitu akifanyacho is wrong. Mind you, Iam not a CCM or Chadema or anywhere..IAM INDEPENDENT..SO I look at things objectively. Akikosea nasema, akifanya jambo ninalokubaliana nalo I support him. Kwa hili la Zimbabwe I agree with HIS EXCELLENCY!

Kwamba Dick Cheney alivote Mandela kuwa terrorist..to me sishangai..ilikuwa foreign policy yao. FMES alishasema, kwenye siasa hakuna permanent truth! Leo Hamas ni gaidi..usishangae in twenty years Hamas akawa best ally wa USA na Israel..thats politics....only permanent interests no permanent friends...

Kama BUSH na CHENNEY ni makaburu...Then wanawasaidia kumuondoa Kaburu yupi tena huko ZIMBABWE?
Na hiyo foreign policy ya kuliacha jina la MANDELA WALIYEMFUNGA KWA MIAKA 27 JELA NA BADO KUTOKUONA UMUHIMU WA KUONDOA JINA LAKE KUTOKA KWENYE LISTI YA UGAIDI YA WAMAREKANI....Hiyo ndiyo policy ya mwafrika?

 

[Masanja]

Kama BUSH na CHENNEY ni makaburu...Then wanawasaidia kumuondoa Kaburu yupi tena huko ZIMBABWE?

Mkoloni wa AFRIKA ni MWAFRIKA. na Kwa Zimbabwe Mkoloni ni Mugabe! so is TANZANIA Mkoloni wetu ni JAKAYA! Period. The biggest enemy of Africa are Africans. Tusitafute mchawi kwingine, mchawi tuko naye..hizo old politics za akina Cheney et al..zimeshapitwa na wakati.. Each country has its own scar/black spot in its history....tuhangaike na tunayoweza kuyatatua kwa manufaa ya wananchi wetu. I dont agree with this "colonial and western card mentality" we tend to advance whenever we are faced with some hard truth!

Hivi mwananchi wa Kentucky au Palo Alto..is he really concerned with what Bush or Cheney is saying about Zimbabwe? hapa mimi naongelea namna ya kumsaidia mwananchi wa Marondera au Kisapu anayeteseka na huu utawala dhalimu wa Mugabe...hizi discussion nyingine za Bush, Brown..are fit for academic conferences...

 

[jmushi1]

A Guardian investigation beginning today reveals that instead of enriching often debt-ridden countries, some big corporations are accused by campaigners of facilitating corruption and provoking instability - so much so that organisations such as Friends of the Earth talk of an "oil curse".

Hizo ni interests za corporates!
Si za AFRIKA!
MNAONA SASA?
ZITTO NENDA KAMLETE KIKWETE HAPA!

 

[Gaijin]

masanja unataka sasa mkoloni wetu akamuondoe mkoloni wa zimbabwe au?

 

[Bongolander]

Ni unabii umetimia!?
Sikusema?
Ama nifufue thread tena?
Kikwete amewekwa pale makusudi kutuvuruga waafrika tusipiganie uhuru wetu!
BLAIR-BUSH-SINCLAIR-KIKWETE NI CONNECTION INAYOTAKA KUILIPUA AFRIKA NA MAYBE DUNIA!
Na sisi majeshi atatuletea nani kama hawataki kukamata watuhumiwa kama wananchi wanavyotaka?
Je ni wapi tuendako?

Kwahili siwezi kukubaliana na wewe Bob is a bad person. Bob is shame for Africa, Blackmen, and civilized world. JK alitakiwa kuja na statement kama hii toka zamani. Lakini siwezi kuunga mkono TZ kupeleka jeshi nje ya nchi. Siungi mkono TZ kutuma jeshi liberia kama ilivyofanya, au huko Shelisheli etc etc hakuna busara yoyote zaidi ya kutafuta sifa kwa gharama ya pesa na maisha ya wadogo wetu.
Lazima tuige mfano wa Ufaransa, UN, US na nchi nyingine. They were not stupid when they pulled their troops before people in Rwanda started killing each other. I am not sure whether they were right or wrong. UN should do this not TZ.
Na ukumbuke kuwa JK hatukuwekewa tulimweka sisi wenyewe kwa kumchagua kwa akili zetu na ujinga wetu. so tujilaumu wenyewe tuliomuweka.

 

[Masanja]

at the end of the day tunapata nini .... pengine this is a business inatuingizia kipato ??? or we are becoming the UN themselves

Which UN? may be I am missing something?

If its the UN I know..with that huge building in NEW YORK..ITS MAIN FUNCTION IS TO DISTRIBUTE FOOD IN REFUGEE CAMPS, giving biscuits for flood victims in Burma, withdrawing its peacekeepers to pave way for people to be killed properly as in Rwanda.....etc..... It normally intervenes after the killings...The UN I know has never stopped any war or any conflict...unless you tell me the UN you are talking about here is different from the UN we know. Which in essence cant help us in this issue in Zimbabwe...

Masanja,