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'Pastor' took girl, 10, to bed

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by zomba, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. zomba

    zomba JF-Expert Member

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    January 27, 2009

    'Pastor' took girl, 10, to bed

    By Tobi Cohen, THE CANADIAN PRESS

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    MONTREAL - A self-described pastor who hoped his "marriage" to a 10-year-old girl he took to bed would convince a judge to acquit him on a sexual assault charge was sentenced to five years in prison on Monday.

    Daniel Cormier, who was convicted last October following a lengthy trial, has a maximum of 49 months left behind bars because of time already served.

    "I would say that there's no remorse," Crown prosecutor Anne-Andree Charette said outside the courtroom. "He just tried to find justifications."

    The Crown wanted the maximum prison term of 10 years, while a lawyer Cormier hired for sentencing arguments recommended between 30 months and four years behind bars, given Canadian jurisprudence..

    The 57-year-old head of the now defunct Church of Downtown Montreal, who also once ran for mayor, has maintained he is not a pedophile and that he did nothing wrong as the pair were married during a ceremony at his obscure evangelical church in 1999.

    Court heard he was lovestruck for the youngster.

    During the trial, Quebec court Judge Sylvie Durand announced she would not hear testimony supporting his marriage defence.

    The victim, who is now 19, testified she was too young to grasp the idea of marriage. She denied ever entering a union with him, but said she remembered the sexual abuse in vivid detail.

    During the proceedings, court heard that Cormier's church catered to the marginalized. Starting in 1993, he took the girl's mother, a recovering junkie and prostitute, and her two daughters under his wing.

    Relatives described Cormier as a father figure to the girls who were often invited to stay with him or go on vacation with him and other church members.

    It was during such holidays that fellow parishioners became suspicious of Cormier's relationship with the victim.

    He was arrested in 2003 after a social worker notified police but the case progressed slowly through the courts as numerous motions were filed by both the Crown and Cormier, who represented himself at the trial.

    When it came time for the victim to testify, she agreed to do so only via video link from an adjacent room and Cormier was barred from cross-examining her or her mother.

    He declined to submit to the court an approved list of questions and rested his case without calling further witnesses or taking the stand himself.

    At the time of his conviction, two additional charges of sexual touching and invitation to touching were dropped.

    Cormier is currently on trial in another case involving a 16-year-old girl and could face additional jail time if convicted.

    The alleged crimes, which Cormier denies committing, also date back to his time as a pastor.

    Source: CANOE -- CNEWS: - 'Pastor' took girl, 10, to bed



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  2. Yo Yo

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    whats up Dr mtindio
     
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    Hivi kweli kuna raha gani kumfanya mtoto mdogo?

    Yeye hana watoto wake wadogo?
     
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    Have we had enough...!? Let's pray for the victims of these sinners!
     
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    Sahiba JF-Expert Member

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    hawa mapastor wamezidi hawa kwa sababu wanaregezewa makanisa yanawalipia lawsut zao ndio maana hawaachi.
     
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    Abdulhalim JF-Expert Member

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    I agree with you that the 'pastor' with double ' sinned.

    Lakini twende hapa halafu tutoe conclusion, hivi nani ni muovu zaidi ya mwingine ?

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
    Narrated 'Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

    NB: Nine years in lunar calendar (arabic) means something less than 9 years of our Cesar Calendar..


    Conclusion:

    ??????
     
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    Unataka nikujibu nini kuhusu self-made 'pastor'? au mimi ndo nimekuwa msemaji wao..

    LOL..!
     
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    Sahiba JF-Expert Member

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    Mtindiwa ubongo anamtetea pastor kwa nguvu zote haya subiri wanao wakienda kanisani hakikisha unakodi bodyguard wa kwenda nao.
     
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    Asalaaaleh, yaani Mtume Mwamadi alikuwa ndo mkufunzi wa ..... wa wastaadh. KATOTO KA MIAKA SITA KUKASHUGHULIKIA SI KUFURU HIYO. Hata la kwanza hakajaanza.

    Huyu Mtume Bandia wa waislam angekuwa hai leo hii angepewa mvua nyingi sana segerea.
     
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    Abdulhalim JF-Expert Member

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    Nenda kwenye post yangu # 6, utakutana statement hii:

    Is that so difficult for you to understand?
     
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    Abdulhalim JF-Expert Member

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    Yaani usipime muzee..

    Halafu kuna andiko jengine linasema kuwa Muhammad akidai kuwa relevation zoote za kwenye Koran 'aliteremshiwa' wakati yupo 'shuka' moja na 'Aisha na si wakeze wengine..Halafu si unajua revelation zilikuwa 'zinateremshwa' usiku mnene? Hapa manake ni kuwa verses & surahs zote zimetiwa najisi na pedofilia..


    Kaaazi kwleikweli..
     
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    Abu Bakr: Rasulullah you must be joking. She is hardly six years old. And you are in your fiftees.

    Prophet Muhammad: She is old enough for me.

    Abu Bakr: Didn’t you marry off your own daughters when they were much older.?.

    Prophet Muhammad: That was before aya 65.4 was revealed. Now a muslim can marry even a day old infant girl.

    Hapa tunasoma kuwa baba yake Aisha anasita kumpa mtoto wake Aisha kwa Marehemu Muhammad. Lakini Marehemu anaanzisha mstari wa Koran ambao utamlazimisha Abu Bakr kutoa ka toddler kake kwa Gwiji na Mzee wa Machangu. Marehemu Mtume Muhammad.

    Marehemu Muhammad alikuwa anatamaa sana ya ngono kwa kila Mwanamke apitaye mbele yake. Jamaa alikuwa haachi kitu.

    Soma jibu lake: Prophet: She is old enough for me. How can a hardly six year's old girl be old enough kwa ngono? Huyu Mtume Bandia alikuwa na mawazo gani ndani ya kichwa chake?

    Kama Mama na Baba yake Marehemu Mtume Mwamadi wangekuwa hai, sijui ingekuwaje. Naona Marehemu Mwamadi alikosa malezi bora, kwa kukua bila ya biological parents.

     
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    Akhsante Mkuu kwa ilmu ya deen ya wanyenyekevu.
     
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    Hii ni shuguli pevu, mkono kwa kichwa wapi na wapi jamani? Hao wameleta pastor hawakuleta YESU iweje nyinyi mje na mtume! Mimi ningependa kama ni ligi ingekuwa bomba kama mkitumia jicho kwa jicho a jino kwa jino lakini hii ya mkono kwa kichwa sio.
     
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    Abdulhalim JF-Expert Member

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    The 'mtume' is NOT in the same league as THE ALMIGHTY CHRIST THE MASIH..

    Hapa tunachoongelea ni UVIVU wa kufikiri wa watu fulani, kuondoa INZI kwenye kikombe na kummeza NGAMIA..Kama mtu dhambi anahesabiwa 'pastor' tu lakini 'mtume' anaachwa ujue hapo kuna TATIZO..
     
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    Wakuu Mtindiowaubongo,Maxshimba heshima mbele.
    Sitapenda kupata majibu kutoka kwenu kwenye hili swali langu kwa X-paster si kwasababu hamjui.
    Mkuu X-paster,ni kweli mtume wa mwenyezi mungu Mohamed SWA alioa mtoto wa miaka 9.Kwa kweli nimewahi kusia hizi habari lakini sipendi kuamini mtume Mohamad SWA angeweza kufanya kitu kama hiki labda kuna sababu maana yeye ni mtume pengine kuna sababu maalum.
     
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    The cache is that if we can agree on the logical corrolary that our dearly beloved 'prophet' was nothing but NON-REPENTING SINNER we will be able to solve a bunch of problems related to this 'prophet'..

    Wasaalam.
     
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    Kamuulize mtume mwamadi aliye oa katoto ka miaka sita.
     
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    MaxShimba JF-Expert Member

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    Naona majamaa wamekukimbia na kuikimbia thread yao. Mwamedi alikuwa pedofile. Six years old child? 50+ husband?

    Jamaa kwanza alichukuwa shuga mami Khadija, haijulikani ni nini alikosa kwa khadija kiasi ambacho kilimfanya achukue katoddler ka darasa la chekechea. Huo ni muujiza wa mtume mwamadi.
     
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    More lying approved by GOD Almighty(!?)


    Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
    " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
    "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

    1 Kings 22:21-23

    GOD Almighty gave the spirit the green light to go and cause lying. And yet they tell us: "thou shalt not lie"?

    Aslm'Alykm!
    Alhamdulillah rRabir'haramin...!

    Kwanza kabisa napenda kukufahamishaa kuwa itatosha na kupendeza zaidi ukiniita X-Paster Bila kuongeza neno "mkuu." Wapo wakuu humu JF na mimi si miongoni mwao.

    Tafadhali bofya hapa ili kupata majibu ya swali lako.
    Aisha (ra).

    Shukran.
    Fii'Aman'Allah
     
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