Waislam 35% ya population ya Tanzania, wakristo 30%, imani za kienyeji 35%; sasa ukiigawa nchi kwa waislam na wakristo wale wengine inakuwaje? Acha uzushi!
Wewe nae kwenye huu ulimwengu wa siku hizi mpaka utafuniwe! Utakuwa ulikuwa mtu wa mkoba aka desa sana chuoni kwako! Jaribu CIA factsheet au Wikipedia Tanzania kabla ya kuja na maswali kama haya ili uwe na mwanga kidogo tu, au njoo na alternative statistics!Mkuu saikosisi heshima mbele.
Naomba kutofautiana na wewe katika hizo statistics zako sijui umepata wapi hizo data maana hata sensa iliyofanyika Tanzania hakuna kipengele cha dini.
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Waislam 35% ya population ya Tanzania, wakristo 30%, imani za kienyeji 35%; sasa ukiigawa nchi kwa waislam na wakristo wale wengine inakuwaje? Acha uzushi!
"Ujue tunaelekea kwenye uchaguzi mkuu hapo mwakani, hivyo wako baadhi ya wanasiasa wanatumia mwanya wa majukwaa ya dini kupeleka ujumbe wao," alisema. [/url]
Mkandara,YNIM,Mtindio-wa-Ubongo,Geeque,chinkala,Max...
..hivi haiwezekani kutunziana heshima walau kidogo?
..nadhani hawa kina Mwaipopo,Msopa, na wenzao, wanachezea dini.
..hawa ni tofauti na Mtikila kwasababu mwenzao at least, at least, ameanzisha chama cha siasa-DP.
..siyo kitu cha ajabu kwa mashekhe, mapadri, na wachungaji kushiriki siasa. naomba niwakumbushe wafuatao: Sheikh Idiris Abdul Wakil, Padri Supa--Mbunge wa Dodoma, Padri Yohana Misigalo--Mbunge Tabora, Sheikh Juma Mikidadi -- Mbunge wa Kilwa.
..the common denominator ni kwamba wote walijiunga na vyama vya siasa.
..wanachojaribu kufanya hawa kina Mwaipopo ni kitu hatari sana ktk mazingira ya dunia ya leo. tuliikwepa vita kati ya ukomunisti vs ubepari, sasa tusije tukajitumbukiza ktk vita ya mahafidhina wa Kikristo vs mahafidhina wa Kiislamu.
..hata kama wana madai ya kisiasa sidhani kama ni busara kuwavumilia ukizangatia kwamba wanataka kuyawasilisha kwa kutumia chombo kilichoanzishwa kwa misingi ya dini.
..kwa kifupi naomba Dini zote mbili zisikubali kuchezewa, na kutumbukizwa ktk malumbano ya kisiasa. kama kuna madai ya Kisiasa basi Mashekhe,Mapadri,Wachungaji, wa-LOBBY kwa waheshimiwa Wabunge.
NB:
..watoa maoni wengi ktk mtandao, ambao wanaonekana kuwa Waislamu, wamekuwa wakiikandia na kuikana Bakwata kwamba haiwakilishi Waislamu.
..labda kuna yeyote anayeweza kutuelekeza chombo chochote kile ambacho kikitoa tamko basi tunapaswa kuwachukulia seriously kwamba wanazungumza kwa niaba ya majority ya Waislamu wa Tanzania.
..je, kuna Sheikh,Imamu,...ambaye akitoa tamko hilo tunaweza kuchukulia kwamba linaungwa mkono na majority ya Waislamu wa Tanzania?
1. It seems to me that CCM is trying to use the same principle: If you mange to divide Tanzanians then you can lord it over them.
2. I am aware that not every one will see the hand of CCM in this matter,
I think they are starting with religious divisions.
3. CUF might also be pursuing this line of action. They have always tried to rely on underground mobilization through the mosques. CUF was born out of UDINI.
4. CCM has tried to stay away from religious and tribal divisions in the past. I suppose that it is a measure of desperation that even they are now turning to UDINI.
- Mkuu haya maneno yako ndio uzushi wenyewe wa kidini na yanashusha heshima yetu hapa JF kwa sababu huwezi kuonyesha ushahidi wake, acheni machochezi ya kidini hapa JF, Mods it is about time mkaifunga hii thread sasa maana this is beyond ustaarabu!
This is a pure nonesense tena ni sad kwamba inaweza kutolewa na a man of your academic status, aibu tupu kwani huwezi toa ushahidi mzito wa hizi empty claims!
Mara nyingine huwekewa dau na waislamu wenzao kisha huangalia lipi ni kubwa na kisha huenda huko.Pia walipata msaada toka DIC (Dar es salaam islamic Club); ambayo hii imetoa mawaziri kadhaa ktk baraza la mawaziri lililopo.
Hivi kwani hakuna tafsiri za qur'an ktk kiswahili au kiinglish? Ninavyojua mimi waislamu wengi wanazo kopi za tafsiri za aya mbalimbali za qur'an...hayo uloyasema umeyatoa wapi? Mpaka hapo umeshakwaza/kashfu watu bila kujijua kwa kuandika vitu usovielewa vizuri! Qur'an kusomwa kama ilivyo kuna sababu zake tena za msingi sana (darasa lingine kwa siku nyingine) na haina maana kwamba usipojua kiaarabu basi kwisha habari yako "uta-cram tu," hayo ni matusi braza!...kama jambo ulijui vyema ni kheri kukaa kimya kuliko kutafuta umaarufu kwenye www.
Kinachojitokeza hapa ni wakristo (si wote) hapa JF kukurupuka na kuanza kukashfu kila aliye muislam ilhali wanajua wazi kuwa Mwaipopo na Msopa si wasemaji wa waislamu wooooooooote wa Tanzania....sasa wewe ulitaka sie tukae kimya na ku-enjoy kashfa za kina Mtindio na genge lake? Nani kwani alieanza kukashfu dini ya mwenzake hapa? Umefanya nini ktk mada ya "ustaadhi aliebaka" ambayo ikageuka na kuwa thread ya kumkashfu mtume wa mungu na dini yake? Umefanya nini ktk thread ya "magaidi watatu wakamatwa AR"? Thread kibao hapa zinatuka dini nyingine, mods wanaangalia wakati wadinidini wanajulikana na kuna jukwaa lao ambalo baadhi yetu hatuna access na hatutaki kuwa nazo...kwanini mada hizi zisiamishiwe huko? Binafsi nilikuwa nimekaa kimya natazama tu nikidhani mods watachukua hatua....lakini ilipofika hapa pa kuchanganya dini na siasa huku waislamu kwa ujumla wao wakiwa labeled ni anti-chadema, nikasema siwezi kuendelea kukaa kimya! Nadhani unaelewa.....
Kuna mada ya "mtazameni mkenya huyu," mwanzilishi Abtitchaz...lau kama hiyo njemba ilobaka mentally handicaped teenager ingekuwa na jina la kiislamu (let say Bakari Hamduni), wallahi ungeona Doedoe, Schimidt, Muse a Muse, Max, Mtindio, Mtarajiwa, Mbarikiwa, Bongolander, Mpita Njia, Njowepo, Yo-yo, Mchukia Fisadi na vikarogosi vingine vikidai kuwa waislamu ndivyo walivyo na hata "mwamedi" alifanya vivyo hivyo!! Wewe Mchundo ungekaa kimyaaaaaaaa una-enjoy kwani rekodi yako ndivyo inavyoonyesha...!! Lakini waislamu hapa JF sijaona hata mmoja akija na hizo tact za jamaa zako. Ukiwa fair (wasiwasi wangu ni kuwa haupo fair) basi utaona kuwa sisi wakina YNIM tunajaribu kugawa dose ileile inayogawiwa na hao wagalatia wanaotukana waislamu bila sababu za msingi!
N.B: Hakuna sauti moja na haita tokea ambayo itakuwa inasemea waislamu wooooooooooooooooooote wa Tanzania. Kama una issue na Mwaipopo, Sheikh Flani, Ustaadhi Yule, Maalim Kisisina, Mufti Shamte, Mullah Nanilii au vyovyote, basi deal na huyo individual au/na genge lake bila kuburuza waislamu wote. Ukiweza kufanya hivyo, basi kila kitu kitakuwa burudani (kwa udinidini mlonao, sidhani kama hilo ni jepesi kwa upande wenu..sadly)! 🙁
Asante na mchana mwema...yay!
Binadamu wote sisi ni wadini! Kila mtu anatetea anachokiamini.
Waislamu ndugu zangu..inabidi wakubali positive criticism.
Mimi naamini and I say it again, waislamu especially Tanzania..inabidi waamke..waweke msisitizo kwenye elimu dunia!....dunia ya leo huwezi kwenda darasani ukaweka mkazo kwenye quran baadala ya Chemistry au Physics.. (By the way I have seen this not only in TANZANIA BUT ALSO IN SOME OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES I HAVE WORKED IN) Nimeona malalamiko mengi sana ya wenzetu wakisema kwamba wanaonewa epecially na wakristo. What I can say: invest in education. kama ni seminary za waislamu support wanafunzi wakate nondo......
Mwisho nasema, dini ni imani ya mtu, huwezi mzuia mtu asifikirie anachotaka kufikiri. Kama nimeamua kuamini kwamba Mkandara au YN or Fundi ni mdini..hata kama ukinishauri vipi..I will always think so! Cha muhimu watu wajipange waweke mikakati ya kujiletea maendeleo.