Manchester United (Red Devils) | Special Thread

Al Watani · Nov 21, 2021

Sarri said:
Upo sahihi mkuu. Japo kuna makosa baadhi hapo ikiwemo Ronaldo kusajiliwa na Mourinho, he didn't, alisajiliwa kipindi cha Pellegrin.

Hata hivyo nimeelewa overall point yako.

Kusema ukweli mimi sio muumini wa haya masuala ya kusema kikosi kikishakua assembled basi kocha yupo guaranteed kufanikiwa nacho.

Naamini kocha naye anatakiwa kuwa na uwezo. Ntakutajia mifano michache.

Rijkaard ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile Guardiola alichukulia treble.

Lampard ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile TT amekuja kuchukulia uefa.

Carlo ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile ambacho Hans Flick amekuja kuchukulia treble pale Bayern.

Turudi kwa Zizzou sasa. Wakati akina Mou wanakomaa na Fabio Coentrao (mfano) kama LB, yeye akaona the right person kuwa left back ni Marcelo (it takes great coaching kujua hilo, just as the way Ole didn't know a lot about his best players)

Midfield ya Kroos, Modric na Casemiro Zidane ndo aliweza ku exploit potential yake. Casemiro alikua nothing before Zidane. Waliotangulia walikua wanakomaa na akina Khedira na Illaramendi kwenye DM, Zidane aka stick na Casemiro. This takes great coaching too.

Yapo mengine sana Zizzou ali develop katika kipindi chake ambayo hatuwezi ya ignore.

Faith ya Zidane kwa vijana ni kubwa nadhani kuliko makocha wengi sana kwa sasa.

Record ya most consecutive wins pale la liga ambayo ilikua inashikiliwa na Enrique kwa 39 games, Zizzou ndo aliivunja. Yeye ana 40 nadhani.

Zizzou amechukua la liga katika second coming yake akiwa na kikosi average compared to Barca na Atletico.

Kwa maoni yangu, Zidane ni underated. Kama tu Pep alivyoondokaga Barca ikasemekana hatafanikiwa ligi ya uingereza etc

Kwanza nitofautiane na wewe kuhusu Rijkard.
Rijkard katika kipindi chake alichukua UCL 2006, akatwaa Laliga na mara mbili na UCL.

Kilichotokea 2007 baada ya kutwaa UCL wachezaji wengi sana muhimu waliondoka Edmilson, Van Bomel, Van Bronqhost, Saviola, Giuly, Belleti na wengine wengi akaingiza wachezaji wapya saba Henry, Eric Abidal, Yaya Toure, na Zambrota na wengineo hivyo alihitaji muda kuweka sawa japokuwa tatizo lilikuja wachezaji hao walihitaji muda mrefu sana kukaa sawa kwenye kikosi ambacho tayari kilikuwa kimeondokewa na wachezaji wengi na wengine kama Henrik Lasson wakiwa wamezeeka.

Kumbuka katika misimu yake mitatu Guardiola pale hakufanya usajili mkubwa zaidi ya kumsajili Ibrahimovic, Gerrad Pique, Javier Mascherano , David villa na Adriano na hawa ilikuwa msimu wa pili wa Guardiola.

Kikosi cha kwanza kilichompa mafanikio Guardiola ni alichokitengeneza Rijkard.

Ni ngumu Mwalimu kutengeneza succession plan nzuri baada ya Squuad kuishiwa makali ndiyo maana unaona Rijkad kaichukua Barcelona 2003 mpaka 2008 hapo kati alichukua UEFA.

Al Watani · Nov 21, 2021

Sarri said:
Upo sahihi mkuu. Japo kuna makosa baadhi hapo ikiwemo Ronaldo kusajiliwa na Mourinho, he didn't, alisajiliwa kipindi cha Pellegrin.

Hata hivyo nimeelewa overall point yako.

Kusema ukweli mimi sio muumini wa haya masuala ya kusema kikosi kikishakua assembled basi kocha yupo guaranteed kufanikiwa nacho.

Naamini kocha naye anatakiwa kuwa na uwezo. Ntakutajia mifano michache.

Rijkaard ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile Guardiola alichukulia treble.

Lampard ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile TT amekuja kuchukulia uefa.

Carlo ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile ambacho Hans Flick amekuja kuchukulia treble pale Bayern.

Turudi kwa Zizzou sasa. Wakati akina Mou wanakomaa na Fabio Coentrao (mfano) kama LB, yeye akaona the right person kuwa left back ni Marcelo (it takes great coaching kujua hilo, just as the way Ole didn't know a lot about his best players)

Midfield ya Kroos, Modric na Casemiro Zidane ndo aliweza ku exploit potential yake. Casemiro alikua nothing before Zidane. Waliotangulia walikua wanakomaa na akina Khedira na Illaramendi kwenye DM, Zidane aka stick na Casemiro. This takes great coaching too.

Yapo mengine sana Zizzou ali develop katika kipindi chake ambayo hatuwezi ya ignore.

Faith ya Zidane kwa vijana ni kubwa nadhani kuliko makocha wengi sana kwa sasa.

Record ya most consecutive wins pale la liga ambayo ilikua inashikiliwa na Enrique kwa 39 games, Zizzou ndo aliivunja. Yeye ana 40 nadhani.

Zizzou amechukua la liga katika second coming yake akiwa na kikosi average compared to Barca na Atletico.

Kwa maoni yangu, Zidane ni underated. Kama tu Pep alivyoondokaga Barca ikasemekana hatafanikiwa ligi ya uingereza etc

Lampard alikuta Chelsea ambayo imetoka kuchukua Epl na Europa League kutoka kwa Conte na Mauricio Sari lakini ilikuwa imezuiwa kufanya usajili.

Msimu wake wa pili alifanya usajili ilihitajika muda kuiassemble squad yake.

Lakini kumbuka Chelsea ni timu yenye football culture tofauti kuliko vilabu vyote EPL ni timu ambayo huwa inaadapt haraka sana mabadiliko ya benchi la ufundi ndiyo karibu kila kocha aliyefundisha Chelsea Post Mourinho alipata mafanikio ukiondoa Scolari, Boas na Lampard tu.

Al Watani · Nov 21, 2021

Sarri said:
Upo sahihi mkuu. Japo kuna makosa baadhi hapo ikiwemo Ronaldo kusajiliwa na Mourinho, he didn't, alisajiliwa kipindi cha Pellegrin.

Hata hivyo nimeelewa overall point yako.

Kusema ukweli mimi sio muumini wa haya masuala ya kusema kikosi kikishakua assembled basi kocha yupo guaranteed kufanikiwa nacho.

Naamini kocha naye anatakiwa kuwa na uwezo. Ntakutajia mifano michache.

Rijkaard ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile Guardiola alichukulia treble.

Lampard ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile TT amekuja kuchukulia uefa.

Carlo ali fail kwa kutumia kikosi kile kile ambacho Hans Flick amekuja kuchukulia treble pale Bayern.

Turudi kwa Zizzou sasa. Wakati akina Mou wanakomaa na Fabio Coentrao (mfano) kama LB, yeye akaona the right person kuwa left back ni Marcelo (it takes great coaching kujua hilo, just as the way Ole didn't know a lot about his best players)

Midfield ya Kroos, Modric na Casemiro Zidane ndo aliweza ku exploit potential yake. Casemiro alikua nothing before Zidane. Waliotangulia walikua wanakomaa na akina Khedira na Illaramendi kwenye DM, Zidane aka stick na Casemiro. This takes great coaching too.

Yapo mengine sana Zizzou ali develop katika kipindi chake ambayo hatuwezi ya ignore.

Faith ya Zidane kwa vijana ni kubwa nadhani kuliko makocha wengi sana kwa sasa.

Record ya most consecutive wins pale la liga ambayo ilikua inashikiliwa na Enrique kwa 39 games, Zizzou ndo aliivunja. Yeye ana 40 nadhani.

Zizzou amechukua la liga katika second coming yake akiwa na kikosi average compared to Barca na Atletico.

Kwa maoni yangu, Zidane ni underated. Kama tu Pep alivyoondokaga Barca ikasemekana hatafanikiwa ligi ya uingereza etc

Kuhusu Zidane hakuna sehemu yoyote niliposema ni mbaya ila nilichosema alikuta Squad iliyokamilika kila idara.

kikiboxer · Nov 21, 2021

fuentte said:
Nature ya kikosi tulichonacho pia inawatisha baadhi ya waalimu kuikubali united katikati ya msimu maana italazimu kuondoa wachezaji wengi wa kikosi cha kwanza kitu ambacho tunaaminishwa kuwa ni world class

Kwamba hatuna wachezaji wazuri?

Baluma · Nov 21, 2021

PTER said:
Mourinho aliwasajili
11. Christiano Ronaldo
12. Karim Benzema

Kumbukumbu zangu ziko tofauti na zako.

Kwamba Mourinho aliwasajili Karim Benzema ba Chrisriano Ronaldo? Hawa si walisajiriwa Madrid mwaka 2009? Mourinho mwaka huo wanasajiriwa si alikuwa Inter Milan na msimu huo wa 2009/2010 ndipo akachukua UCL akiwa na Inter?

Guacamole · Nov 21, 2021

Rutashubanyuma said:
The new kid in town. Luis Enrique will seal the leaking defence immediately

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Al Watani · Nov 21, 2021

Barnabas Mashamba said:
Kumbukumbu zangu ziko tofauti na zako.

Kwamba Mourinho aliwasajili Karim Benzema ba Chrisriano Ronaldo? Hawa si walisajiriwa Madrid mwaka 2009? Mourinho mwaka huo wanasajiriwa si alikuwa Inter Milan na msimu huo wa 2009/2010 ndipo akachukua UCL akiwa na Inter?

Yes nimerekebisha kule juu lakini walisajiliwa na Manuel Pellegrin

Don Vito · Nov 21, 2021

Rutashubanyuma said:
AiseeView attachment 2018903

Mwamba is a real red's fan aisee

Tattoo kabisa kwenye ugimbi

ze-dudu · Nov 21, 2021

Asanteni sana wadau kwa kunikumbuka

Hatimae yametimia ilikua ni miaka miwili ya masimango kejeli kuchekwa na kujikuta nipo peke yangu kwenye hii harakati lakini leo hatimae nimeondoka na kijiji humu😀😀😀😀

simamia unachokiamini maana ipo siku tu kitakuletea mafanikio

BADO HAJAFUKUZWA TU😀😀😀

Pain killer · Nov 21, 2021

ze-dudu said:
Asanteni sana wadau kwa kunikumbuka

Hatimae yametimia ilikua ni miaka miwili ya masimango kejeli kuchekwa na kujikuta nipo peke yangu kwenye hii harakati lakini leo hatimae nimeondoka na kijiji humu

simamia unachokiamini maana ipo siku tu kitakuletea mafanikio

BADO HAJAFUKUZWA TU

Ameshafukuzwa tayari

fuentte · Nov 21, 2021

kikiboxer said:
Kwamba hatuna wachezaji wazuri?

Ndio,wengi hawana hadhi ya kuichezea united chini ya kocha anayetaka makombe

Mangungo II · Nov 21, 2021

PTER said:
Lampard alikuta Chelsea ambayo imetoka kuchukua Epl na Europa League kutoka kwa Conte na Mauricio Sari lakini ilikuwa imezuiwa kufanya usajili.

Msimu wake wa pili alifanya usajili ilihitajika muda kuiassemble squad yake.

Lakini kumbuka Chelsea ni timu yenye football culture tofauti kuliko vilabu vyote EPL ni timu ambayo huwa inaadapt haraka sana mabadiliko ya benchi la ufundi ndiyo karibu kila kocha aliyefundisha Chelsea Post Mourinho alipata mafanikio ukiondoa Scolari, Boas na Lampard tu.

Hio ndio culture yetu sisi na tumefanikiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa

Sasa iga kunya kwa tembo

uchanike msamba

Volatility · Nov 21, 2021

fuentte said:
Ndio,wengi hawana hadhi ya kuichezea united chini ya kocha anayetaka makombe

wachezaji wengi manutd wako vizuri, tatizo hawajapa walimu kuwa drill brain zao. walimu wamekomalia physical fitness tu, mtu kama martial, Rashford, Pogba, sasa na Maguire wana serious mental problems, na hawana mtu wa kuwasidia kuover come challenges zao.

Rashford na Martial.... ni wachezaji waliokuwa wamebeba matumaini makubwa sana ya mashabiki na management na wanalipwa pesa mingi, sasa wanataka kufunga magoli kwa lazima, then wanasahau kuna wenzao uwanjani n.k this is a serious problem.

same applies to Pogba, yeye as long ana perform National team, anaona tatizo labda ni jezi na tayari anajiona hakubaliki na mashabiki.

Belo · Nov 21, 2021

kikiboxer said:
Kuna point alikuwa anaieleza PTER kwamba Ole kinachomuangusha ni laisserz fair policy yake. Yani hana kitu anachopambania ni ngumu kupata matokeo kwa kuwachekea tu unaowaongoza hata wakiharibu.

Pia uwezo wake kufundisha ni mdogo sana

Tanayzer · Nov 21, 2021

wakuu Ten hag anawasalimia kuna hizo passes. Passes completed kuna attacks na hiyo dangerous attacks ni vitu vya muhimu kwa mpira sahizi.....ndio walicheza na timu ndogo ila nyota njema huonekana asubuhi

Tanayzer · Nov 21, 2021

Jamaa jana baada ya kipigo alionekana anaparty Sheffield

Darmian · Nov 21, 2021

ze-dudu said:
Asanteni sana wadau kwa kunikumbuka

Hatimae yametimia ilikua ni miaka miwili ya masimango kejeli kuchekwa na kujikuta nipo peke yangu kwenye hii harakati lakini leo hatimae nimeondoka na kijiji humu

simamia unachokiamini maana ipo siku tu kitakuletea mafanikio

BADO HAJAFUKUZWA TU

Mzee mzee...sherehe ipo wapi sasa??

Guantanamo Sobibor · Nov 21, 2021

PTER said:
Lampard alikuta Chelsea ambayo imetoka kuchukua Epl na Europa League kutoka kwa Conte na Mauricio Sari lakini ilikuwa imezuiwa kufanya usajili.

Msimu wake wa pili alifanya usajili ilihitajika muda kuiassemble squad yake.

Lakini kumbuka Chelsea ni timu yenye football culture tofauti kuliko vilabu vyote EPL ni timu ambayo huwa inaadapt haraka sana mabadiliko ya benchi la ufundi ndiyo karibu kila kocha aliyefundisha Chelsea Post Mourinho alipata mafanikio ukiondoa Scolari, Boas na Lampard tu.

Nadhani ieleweke kwamba kuna makocha uwezo wao ni wa kawaida yaani anaweza kuitoa timu say level C akaiweka level B na hapo ndiyo mwisho wake hawezi kuipeleka level A hata umpe misimu mingapi na resources za aina gani. Aina ya makocha hao ni kama Lampard na Ole. Sio kwamba walikuwa wanapenda matokeo mabovu lakini uwezo wao wa kufundisha umefika mwisho pale. Watakuwa bora pengine huko mbeleni lakini sio kwa sasa. Chelsea isingemfukuza Lampard ingeendelea kuwa kama ilivyokuwa sababu Lampard mwenyewe aliwahi kusema Chelsea kuchukuwa makombe makubwa au kugombea makombe makubwa ni kuanzia 2023/2024. Leo hii tumeona mabadiliko ambayo Tuchel kayafanya chini ya mwaka toka aipokee timu sahau kuhusu kombe la UCL na Super Cup ila unaiona kabisa hii timu ipo kwenye level inayopaswa kuwepo.

Darmian · Nov 21, 2021

Tanayzer said:
Jamaa jana baada ya kipigo alionekana anaparty SheffieldView attachment 2018970

Kumbe baada ya kula umeme likawahi kuoga ili liende club kula ugimbi..fala kweli hili licaptain letu.

Kocha ajae amvue captaincy..he's horrible.

Tanayzer · Nov 21, 2021

Darmian said:
Kumbe baada ya kula umeme likawahi kuoga ili liende club kula ugimbi..fala kweli hili licaptain letu.

Kocha ajae amvue captaincy..he's horrible.

na anafuraha kamili kabisa hana shida hahahahah imagine angekuwa pogba au martial

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