JK: Hatutaki Rais mzee 2015

[Ben Saanane]

Unajua maana ya ceteri peribus? unajua maana ya if all other factors remain constant? between me and you who is an intellectual dwarf here? Jenga tabia ya kusoma usikurupuke tu....Unaathiriwa sana na group thinking!
Unajua usiwe unaongea tu, kuna vitu vya kujaribisha na vingine sio. Ngazi ya urais unaichukuliaje wewe? Kwa ulivyosema kuna kazi zingine sawa lakini kwa kazi mbazo ni sensitive sikubaliani na wewe kabisa. Na tukifanya mchezo katika uchaguzi wa rais tutajiingiza kwenye matatizo yasiyo weza kupta jibu.

Acha vitisho bwana,matatizo kama yapi ambayo 40+ years old wanayoweza ku-guarantee kwamba hayawezi kutokea?

 

[Ben Saanane]

Nyerere mkombo toka kwa wakoloni weupe/ Gaddafi mwanamapinduzi tofauti na hawa wa sasa hakuna wakombozi ni waganga njaa tu, itatuchua muda kumpata mkombozi wa nchi wa wakoloni weusi au mwanamapinduzi. Kuwa mwanamapinduzi au mkombozi hakuna age limit.

Kuhusu Katiba hilo ndio jibu. Ila kulingana na wakati ule hiyo ndio katiba walio iona ainafaa hawakukurupuka Kama hao wanao ongea ongea majukwaani.

Kwa hiyo katiba mpya ghafula itatuletea wakombozi? Kwa hiyo hawa wanasiasa waliopo sasa ni waganga njaa tu?unamaanisha hata hawa walioko above 40?na kama katiba mpya haiwezi kutuletea wakombozi ghafla,what is your suggestion?Tuingie msituni ?

 

[mujusi]

Hivi huu ndio utaratibu unavyopaswa kuwa? Je kama rais ajayo atapomaliza muda wake akisema nataka kitoto kidogo ndio kiwe rais au aseme Mzee wa Zaidi ya miaka 70 ndiye awe rais kwa vile vijana hawajakomaa tutasemaje?
Nyerere alisema "lazima tuwe na utaratibu wa kujiamulia mambo ikiwemo na jinsi yakumpata Rais wetu sio mtu kashauriwa na Mke wake basi tanafuata"

 

[Synthesizer]

Huyu JK anatakiwa ashitakiwe kwa kutoa matamko kinyume na Katiba ya nchi aliyoapa kuilinda, inayoweka bayana kwamba mtanzania yeyote mwenye umri zaidi ya miaka 40 ana haki ya kugombea uraisi. Kwanza yeye raisi kijana kuliko wote tuliowahi kuwa nao huko nyuma kafanya lipi la maana kuliko wengine zaidi ya kutuvurugia tu maendeleo ya nchi yetu na kufanya uongozi wa nchi uonekane kama sherehe ya wendawazimu! Anapaswa kufikiri kabla ya kuongea point zisizo na maana.

 

[Matango]

unaweza kuwa mzee wa umri lakini akili na vitendo vyako moto !!!!!!

hatutaki wazee kama kina sitta na mwandosya tunataka vijana kama kina lowassa.

 

[Adaha]

Lengo la rais ni jema sana, read between the lines. Lengo lake kubwa ni kuvunja makundi yanayowania urais sasa kwa sababu kumekuwa na uhasama mkubwa sana hata kufikia kulishana sumu. Makundi haya yote karibu yana umri sawa na Rais au zaidi. Wakijua kwamba chama hakitawateua kugombea basi wataacha uhasama au watapunguza uhasama. Uhasama unaweza kuendelea kama tu kila kundi litatafuta kijana wao wa kumsimamisha kama wanavyofanya kwenye nafasi za ubunge, udiwani, ujumbe wa NEC, Wenyeviti wa CCM Mkoa na wilaya na hata wakuu wa mikoa na wilaya. Hii haitakuwa na madhara sana.

 

[chizi1]

Lengo la rais ni jema sana, read between the lines. Lengo lake kubwa ni kuvunja makundi yanayowania urais sasa kwa sababu kumekuwa na uhasama mkubwa sana hata kufikia kulishana sumu. Makundi haya yote karibu yana umri sawa na Rais au zaidi. Wakijua kwamba chama hakitawateua kugombea basi wataacha uhasama au watapunguza uhasama. Uhasama unaweza kuendelea kama tu kila kundi litatafuta kijana wao wa kumsimamisha kama wanavyofanya kwenye nafasi za ubunge, udiwani, ujumbe wa NEC, Wenyeviti wa CCM Mkoa na wilaya na hata wakuu wa mikoa na wilaya. Hii haitakuwa na madhara sana.

lakini mi namshangaa mwakyembe. kama kweli amelishwa sumu mbona hasemi wazi na aseme ni wakina nani wamefanya ivyo? mbona story zinapishana.. mi nashindwa kuelewa mwakyembe? sitta? nahodha? naona wanapeleka nchi pabaya, isimwe moja na iwe once and for all. wanasemana utafikiri hawapo serkalini? haiingii kichwani.

habari za rais kwa kweli ndugu zangu nimechoka kumuongelea, hana jipya, ndo alivyo, hana uwezo, ubavu wala nia ya lolote jema. hana siasa wala agenda. sijui hata akilala usiku kama ana plan ya kesho yake. rais hana mipango. iyo ya vijana kesho magazeti yakimshikilia bango, atairuka hiyo kauli atoe visingizio vingine.

im ashamed to have such a president. natamani nihudhurie moja ya kikao chake cha uko nnje nimsikie anaongeaga nini maana hapa vyote anaitikiaga tu.

 

[Ben Saanane]

It doesn't matter who the next president will be but let it be a person who will work for a better Tanzania and deliver full development not just promise. A government that will have a development strategy. A government who executive will seperate politic and governance. A government that will delivery good governace and accountability.

A young & principal president with the energy and time to develop and oversee ideas not someone who career is coming to an end. This will be a dotcom president one who has developed with technology.

We need a young president not pensioners!

Mkasika,
Bravo !
The reason someone cry I have no shoes, I have no bag, I have no school uniform, I have no book is just to belong. No vision, only ultimatum. See, another JK's 5 years will soon be over and we shall all judge in contest of prosperity.

I wonder the reason people don't want to acknowledge that the struggle of next generation will be mammoth face than theirs if they fail to promote good governance in Tanzania vested on capable young generation. May be we don't know that your children and my children are future. By defacing Zitto's and other young politicians achievements with their corky tongue, they give reason to bad ones to be complacent

Since people are passionate about the guy, let it be, to me it seems he's the best performing MP.Haters keep Hating, because that's what you do best.Pamoja na kwamba alisema hayuko kwenye race ya Urais 2015 na atamuunga mkono Mgombea wa chadema.Hata kama angetaka kugombea yeye au mtu mwingine hiyo ni democratic Right,ni constitutional Right !

In a nutshell now,No nation has ever attain greatness with good luck, may be we think Future is a Gift. It is an Achievement if we don't know.

 

[Cynic]

Kikwete kaambiwa na nani kwamba Watanzania hawataki rais "Mzee"?

Au yeye ndiye anataka kuwachagulia Watanzania rais?

Rais haoni kwamba anawagawanya Watanzania katika makundi, vijana na wazee, badala ya kuwaunganisha wote?

Rais haoni kwamba anataka kuwanyima wazee haki yao ya kikatiba ya kugombea uongozi?

Rais haoni kwamba anawavunjia wazee heshima kinyume na mila za kiafrika zinazoheshimu wazee?

Nadhani hii ni muendelezo wa mikakati ya kutimiza malengo yake fulani ambayo bado hayako wazi. Ktk kusafisha njia, alianza kwa kuwang'oa marais wa zamani (ambao walikua vizingiti) kwenye vikao vya chama chake, etc.

 

[Cynic]

Huyu JK anatakiwa ashitakiwe kwa kutoa matamko kinyume na Katiba ya nchi aliyoapa kuilinda, inayoweka bayana kwamba mtanzania yeyote mwenye umri zaidi ya miaka 40 ana haki ya kugombea uraisi. Kwanza yeye raisi kijana kuliko wote tuliowahi kuwa nao huko nyuma kafanya lipi la maana kuliko wengine zaidi ya kutuvurugia tu maendeleo ya nchi yetu na kufanya uongozi wa nchi uonekane kama sherehe ya wendawazimu! Anapaswa kufikiri kabla ya kuongea point zisizo na maana.

Sahihisho dogo: raisi kijana kuliko wote tuliowahi kuwa naye ni Nyerere (at 32 yrs)

 

[Ileje]

Wananchi ndiyo watakao kuwa na kauli ya mwisho kupitia sanduku la kura endapo rais wamtakaye atakuwa mzee au kijana. Uamuzi wao utategemea wakati na aina ya wagombea watakaojitokeza. Ubora wa kiongozi atakayechaguliwa utategemea pia uelewa wa wananchi kuhusu wagombea, malengo na dhamira zao na vyama vyao.

 

[popiexo]

tatizo ni kuwa kipimo hicho kinachotumiwa sana siku hizi cha "uzee" tukikileta kwake yeye mwenyewe atang'aka. Kama mzee hawezi kuwa rais 2015 kwanini mzee awe rais 2012? Na tatizo la uongozi Tanzania halijawahi kuwa umri!

Kweli kabisa umenena, tatizo sio uzee au ujana issue ni uwezo wa mtu kuongoza nchi. Kama kweli Jk kasema hii? it is another flaccid .

 

[nyabhingi]

is no coincidence!!huku jk anaongea huo utumbo,huko vipenzi vyake,january na zitto wanapiga debe umri wa kugombea urais upunguzwe...yaliyosemwa zitto anajiandaa kugombea urais kwa tiketi ya nccr naanza kuyaona kwa mbaaaali.

 

[nyabhingi]

Mkasika,
Bravo !
The reason someone cry I have no shoes, I have no bag, I have no school uniform, I have no book is just to belong. No vision, only ultimatum. See, another JK's 5 years will soon be over and we shall all judge in contest of prosperity.

I wonder the reason people don't want to acknowledge that the struggle of next generation will be mammoth face than theirs if they fail to promote good governance in Tanzania vested on capable young generation. May be we don't know that your children and my children are future. By defacing Zitto's and other young politicians achievements with their corky tongue, they give reason to bad ones to be complacent

Since people are passionate about the guy, let it be, to me it seems he's the best performing MP.Haters keep Hating, because that's what you do best.Pamoja na kwamba alisema hayuko kwenye race ya Urais 2015 na atamuunga mkono Mgombea wa chadema.Hata kama angetaka kugombea yeye au mtu mwingine hiyo ni democratic Right,ni constitutional Right !

In a nutshell now,No nation has ever attain greatness with good luck, may be we think Future is a Gift. It is an Achievement if we don't know.

ninavyojua mimi zitto ameoa,na inapotokea mwanaume akajigonga kwa mwanamme mwenzake kiasi hiki,ndoa ya huyu mbunge inakuwa mashakani especially mke wake akipita humu jamvini na kusoma mahaba kipofu kama haya...unless wewe ndio zitto mwenyewe na ID nyingine.

 

[nicksemu]

Kwa hiyo katiba mpya ghafula itatuletea wakombozi? Kwa hiyo hawa wanasiasa waliopo sasa ni waganga njaa tu?unamaanisha hata hawa walioko above 40?na kama katiba mpya haiwezi kutuletea wakombozi ghafla,what is your suggestion?Tuingie msituni ?

yes if The constitution will be revolutionary otherwise not and We need a revolutionist, I hope u understand

A revolutionist is one who desires to discard the existing social order and try another. Every man is a revolutionist concerning the thing he understands. We have problem in Tanzania that every man is a politician, in this way it will take us a time to have a real revolutionist.

Wapo wachache sio waganga njaa, lakini they have no say, no power (inferior)

 

[fredmlay]

Kwanini asizungumzie nafsi yake na badala yake kauli inaonyesha ni ya wengi?

 

[CHIEF MP]

Hoja ya rais wa ccm haina busara wala mashiko yoyte!Alkua anajarib kuwa2pia vjembe mastaring wanaoplan urais 2015!Ujinga na upumbav ndio utakaowaua magamba 1 day,they thnk zat evryday z monday y not!Wait

 

[Ben Saanane]

ninavyojua mimi zitto ameoa,na inapotokea mwanaume akajigonga kwa mwanamme mwenzake kiasi hiki,ndoa ya huyu mbunge inakuwa mashakani especially mke wake akipita humu jamvini na kusoma mahaba kipofu kama haya...unless wewe ndio zitto mwenyewe na ID nyingine.

You're quite entertaining . We know the type, defeat them in an argument and they get foul mouthed, begin throwing stones, burning, looting and killing......Au Lugha ndiyo tatizo mkuu! Hadi unajua marital status za watu? Intellectual dwarf!

yes if The constitution will be revolutionary otherwise not and We need a revolutionist, I hope u understand

A revolutionist is one who desires to discard the existing social order and try another. Every man is a revolutionist concerning the thing he understands. We have problem in Tanzania that every man is a politician, in this way it will take us a time to have a real revolutionist.

Wapo wachache sio waganga njaa, lakini they have no say, no power (inferior)

So the issue is no longer about constitution,it's all about revolutionize the whole system right?

 

[Marytina]

sijui anataka riz 1 ndo agombee

ndio maana yake

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Uwezo na siyo rangi, jinsia, kabila, umri, kabila au dini ndiyo kigezo pekee kinachotakiwa. Nipe uwezo na utaniongoza!