IMF wathibitisha, Serikali imeishiwa!

We are heading towards dangerous waters... God save us..Take our corrupt politicians to hell before they devour us alive....!
 

Faiza kama kweli serikali ya Rais Kikwete imefanya hivyo vyote why the "overall recurrent spending has outpaced revenue and grant financing, contributing to growing fiscal deficits and a rising public debt stock."? Surely, kama biashara imeongezeka means more tax collection for the government. Kama kilimo kimeongezeka means more exportation of agricultural products na sio ku import vitunguu saumu toka China. Means sukari isingepanda bei kiasi hiki. Kama kazi zimeongezeka means governments is collecting more income tax, etc toka kwa waajiri na wafanya kazi. Means no people complaining about being unemployed.

Overall kama kaongeza ulivyotaja, simply means more income and possibly less expenditure from the government. Less expenditure kwa maana kuwa, kwa mfano, kama barabara safi za lami zipo, tutanunua magari ya kawaida tuu badala ya haya ya bei tunayonunua sasa ili kukabidhian na barabara zetu mbovu. Kama kafanya hivyo vyote why our coffers are empty? Kwa nini tunaendelea kukopa tena kwa matumizi ya kawaida tuu?

Personally, naamini kama Rais Kikwete akijifungia mwenyewe kwenye chumba na kutakafari kwa makini hali ya uchumi wa nchi kwa sasa, he will come to the same conclusion that hali sio nzuri and something has to be done tena kwa haraka sana. The evidence is out there. Tuache ushabiki. And if I were the President na wewe ni chief economic adviser wangu halafu unaniletea list kama hiyo nakufukuza kazi mara moja. Seriously, as my adviser utakuwa hunitakii mema. Kiongozi yoyoye needs to concentrate on what need to be done and how, not what have already been done.
 
Analeta stori za kwenye kampeni na wakati hii ni issue yenye kuhitaji immediate actions.Watu wa Gaddafi walikuwa wakiweka mazuri waliyoyafanya bila kuangalia what was the current need or a real problem.Matokeo yake ni kuwa out of touch na kuondolewa madarakani.
 
Kiongozi yoyoye needs to concentrate on what need to be done and how, not what have already been done.

Ndio maana Mwalimu katika kitabu chake cha Binadamu na maendeleo (ukurasa wa 115) anasema:

"Utakapopiga kura yako tarehe 30 Oktoba hudaiwi kupiga kura ya asante kwa kazi ya siku zilizopita. Unaombwa kupiga kura ya imani kuwa mtu unayemchagua anaweza kuwatumikia katika siku zijazo"
 

Mchambuzi figures zako zina matatizo.

Tanzania GDP in 2010 - $23.06 Billion

Tanzania GDP in 2009 - $21.368 Billion

Tanzania GDP in 2008- $ 20.715 Billion

Hembu angalia vizuri figures zako maana wewe umequote in terms of Trillion dollars naona they are misleading. Vile vile total government debt is quoted in terms of us dollars which is also suspicious. Kwasababu deni la taifa hadi August , 2011 $12.131 Billion (19.47 Trillion Tshs) (i.e. Total debt outstanding). Hembu pitia tena taarifa zako.
 

Mkuu kwanza hii thread yenyewe ilitakiwa iwekwe kwenye jukwaa la uchumi. Tatizo sisi kila kitu ni siasa tuu.
 
Mkuu kwanza hii thread yenyewe ilitakiwa iwekwe kwenye jukwaa la uchumi. Tatizo sisi kila kitu ni siasa tuu.

Hii ishu ni serious,

Hembu angalia Statistics hizi za mwezi August, 2011.

1. Our total debt stock balooned from 15 Trillion Tshs in February to around 19.41 Trillion Tshs.

2. 48.6% of government debts are held by Commercial banks, Central Bank (BOT) holds 26.4%, Pension funds hold 18.3% and the rest of individuals hold 2.2%, insurance 4.5%- Serikali inakopa zaidi kwenye commercial banks na kwa maana hivyo watu binafsi hawana nafasi ya kukopa huko katika commercial banks. Vile vile interest on borrowing ndio maana haishuki kwani mabenki yanajeuri ya kuringa kwasababu hawahitaji kutukopesa sisi watu binafsi.

Hatuzungumzii bado interest rate katika mikopo hii ya serikali.
 

safi sana emt, hii kitu imesimama kichumi haswa, hana chembe za magamba wala magwandwa.thats true fact
 
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Watu wanaongelea facts za uchumi kupanda na kushuka wewe unaleta mipasho ya siasa sijui Kikwete akesema hafi mtu kwa njaa kwani hiyo ndiyo dalili ya uchumi kukua?, kama hujui fani fulani utaonekana wa maana sana ukiwasoma wenzako kuliko kuleta ubishi usiokuwa na maana, halafu si kila thread uchangie au ujifanye unajua.
 

Nimeziangalia tena takwimu zangu toka WorldBank, ile excel spread sheet yao inayoonyesha GDP since uhuru (1961) figures ni hizo hizo mzee na zangu zinaishia 2009 showing the GDP figure $21,368,198,751.0537; upo sahihi kwamba it is in billions of dollars not trillion, nilikosea, lakini hilo bado halibadilishi flow ya presentation yangu, cha kubadilika ni from trillion to billion;

Kuhusu total debt outstanding pia sina taarifa za up-to-date ingawa by all means we are even in a worse situation kwani my data again ya WorldBank inaonyesha mpaka 2009 na hii ilikuwa $7,324,759,000 kwa maana ya kwamba figure yako ya 12 billion means ndio tunazidi kuangamia; asante sana kwa updated data and correction ya billion from trillion; nitakuwa mwangalifu zaidi;
 
Merekani wanakopa itakuwa Tanzania? mnanchekesha!
Mbona Marekani haijaambiwa kuhusu ukameruni..? Kuna tangazo moja anaongea Mpoto.,KOPA KWA SABABU MAALUMU... We unaelewa nini hapo? Kuna wakati Nyerere alisema... RUSHWA YA MAREKANI NA TZ NI TOFAUTI...
 
I am speechless with all the analysis given out here na bado kuna watu wanadiriki kuchanganya this issue with politics!!!!!natamani watu kama nyie wachambuzi wa masuala ya uchumi mngekuwa ndani na mheshimiwa mumshauri ipasavyo lakini badala yake ana vilaza wasiojua lolote zaidi ya kujinufaisha matumbo yao. Sina utaalam wa masuala ya uchumi lakini hata mimi naona tunakoelekea ni kubaya tena sana ila watu hatuoni mpaka sasa.
 
Mchambuzi,

Nilishawahi kuanzisha thread mbili July na moja October kuwaomba wabunge wafikirie vizuri kasi hii ya kukopa lakini wabunge naona fikra ilikuwa katika maposho na mambo mengine but they are sitting at time economic bubble. Wanachokisema IMF wengine sie wapiga kelele tulishakipigia kelele siku nyingi.

https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-la-siasa/146730-deni-la-ugiriki-na-funzo-kwa-tanzania.html

https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-...ia-iwe-na-kikomo-cha-kukopa-debt-ceiling.html

https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-...-na-ndani-na-uwezo-wa-nchi-yetu-kuyalipa.html
 

Ndullu by default is the debt manager of our economy; kwahiyo he should be the first one to call on the government o cut borrowing from BOT as well as diversify the government's commercial borrowing; in doing so, itasaidia monetary policy devised majuzi na Ndullu (increasing bank rate and cash reserve requirements) itekelezeke kama lengo lake ni kupunguza money in circulation in hopes that it will reduce the pressure on prices;
At this stage, the government should resort to the lowest amount of borrowing possible from BOT and look at funds elsewhere (not commercial banks); a reduction in government borrowing from the BOT would also help curb the risk of the budget deficit becoming monetized thus fuel inflation even further; Ndullu has to lower the government's stock of bank borrowing and incentivize the commercial banks to lend more to private institutions, SMEs in particular.
 
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tafadhali Mods naomba hii post iwekwe kwenye ''strickly'' imejaa facts nyingi za kiuchumi na validy, ni very very potential post to jf members.
 
faiza... All jk used was opp (other peoples pensions) nakuona kama unasifia mme mdogo kwa kununua nyumba kwa pesa za marehemu mme wa kwanza na kushindwa kubalance mahesabu
 

Mkuu that's exactly my point. Kwamba serikali, wewe na mimi tunaenda kuunga foleni NMB kuomba mkopo. Hapo benki itamkopesha nani na kwa riba kiasi gani? Nakubaliana na wewe kabisa, this is a very serious matter. Tukumbuke wakati economic crisis ya Marekani ilipokuwa at a critical stage, President Bush ilibidi akae mezani na presidential candidates (akina Obama) to address the issue. Linapokuja suala kama hili, inabidi kuweka siasa pembeni. Lakini leo uchumi wetu is at a critical stage, tunajaribu ku-cover up halafu tunalist the good things Rais wetu did in the past. Kufanya hivi tutakuwa hatumtendei haki. Na hata uchumi uki-collapse kabisa, he will be blaming us, not us blaming him.

If the government had to balance its books, the pressure to overspend would be greatly reduced, and more minds would be concentrated on thinking about what government was really there to do, and about the nasty business of how to pay for it without passing the bill on to our children. And the rule should be a definite one – say, that the books have to balance at the end of every five-year period, not over some vague cycle or whatever. It may not save the country as it is already broken into pieces, but it would produce much more responsible and honest government.
 

Perhaps,

Kabla hatujamuangalia Ndulu kama mtu muhimu wa kusimamia deni la serikali tujiulize kwanini wanakopa kwa kasi hii katika mabenki ya biashara. Kwakweli kasi hii kama ulivyosema mwanzoni na IMF wamelitamka ni kutokana na matumizi ya serikali kuwa makubwa kuliko mapato ya serikali. Mwaka jana tuliwahi kudai serikali ianze kubana matumizi ili kuweza kumudu hii misukosuko ya kiuchumi.

Austerity measure are essential kupunguza mzigo wa gharama za matumizi ya serikali (government expenditure). Ndulu sipendekezi alifanyie kazi kwani he needs to support our Tanzania economic growth (which is also essential). Ndulu needs to advise the government to start saving money and reduce issuance of government bonds katika masoko ya mitaji. Vile vile encourage benki za biashara zipunguze interest ili ziweze kupunguza interest katika mikopo ya mabenki kwa watu binafsi.

My view ni kwa government kupitia Treasure to start austerity measures to cut government expenditure ili kupunguza kasi ya ukopaji. Tukiweza kupunguza government expenditure katika vitu kama safari za viongozi, allowances, viti maalum, the money we save from such measures will be directed to the development projects. We could also start repaying our domestic debts ili kuongeza amount of money available in the commercial banks ili waweze kukopesha zaidi.

Ndullu mie namshauri apunguze interest rate, reserve ratio ili kuweko na access to credit kusudi wawekezaji wapate kukopa na kuwekeza na kutoa ajira nchini na kuongeza uzalishaji na mapato ya nchi.
 
At the risk of sounding irrelevant naomba nikumbushe kwamba Tanzania iliresist sana adjustment za IMF and until 1996 kama sikosei TZ ilikua inatajwa kama a bad model in terms of 'development' just because ilikataa 'dialogue' (this was the term used when they negociated the conditionality of the so called aid with interest). Baadae sijui ilitokea nini Tanzania ikaanza kujifungua (was it easy money?) and slowlu but surely things went out of control. Ni kweli kuna pesa nyingi zaidi zina circulate ila a lot of money is in the hands of the few...
Now what's next? more debt to fuel more credit consumption? this is the time where we should look back and find out where we went wrong. Kweli the impact of protectionism on overall growth is still to be proven but at least that kept TZ in an upward spiral for decades. In just 15 years the failure of liberalism imesha onekana... institutions and policy makers need to act now!
 
holy crap

umeme, maji? maji yameongezeka wapi?? ziwani au mtoni? umskini umeongezeka
fedha zimeisha ndio maana tuko broke
biashara unayozungumzia ni ipi? ya rostam na afgem au watanzania wa kawaida?,
about roads remember it is cumulative and not otherwise
 
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