Government to sue NorConsult

[mwanatanu]

This is what I wrote:



Mchundo came with:




1. Now can you show me where I said Konoike are contractors or consultants? That’s yours to judge, more so a company can remain dormant for years without operations that can be a case for Car Bro and others. I know for sure the representative of H. P. Gauff is still in Tanzania, now somebody is trying his best with his idiotic mentality. (Nadhani?) we don’t dhania here, we right facts as they happen.

2. Now the issue has changed in regard to the consultants who still operate in Tanzania, while somebody anadhania. Well nobody disputes the fact that Norconsult left in a hurry let alone Why JK Government is silent about this issue.

Mchundo and Nyama Hatari know the fact that either they are in Mafisadi’s pay role to silent all those who questions the rotten eggs within the government system and think that by attacking me the matter will rest.

Of course one idiot can support another. And only idiots can't prove anything as they are. They become loafers. Tanzania is bigger than few FISADI’S here and there and people like Mchundo and Hatari. BTW Mchundo can be Hatari for your safety..

Nyani ataendelea kukomwa tu hapa hata mkiwapigia madebe hadi kwenye vilima vya Giladi. We want the government to take stern measures for all those involved in this saga.

Waangesoma Pundit post na hili gazeti niliopata kwa Pundit's post
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1790242.ece

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

Dua!

Naona kuna haja ya kukutolea uvivu. Kwa kuwa umevikwa hiyo title ya Senior Expert Member unaamini unajua kila kitu! Haujui.

Nilisema nadhani kuhusu Cowi Consult na Howard Humphreys kwa sababu sijui kama bado wanaoperate Tanzania. Sina haja ya kujifanya kuwa najua jambo wakati sina uhakika nalo. Carl Bro,H.P. Gauff GmbH ( waliokuwa wanaoperate kama consultants) na Sweco nina UHAKIKA kuwa waliishafunga ofisi zao za consultancy nchini. Kauli yangu kuhusu CarlBro iliungwa mkono na Morani ambaye ni mmoja wa wanachama wanaochangia sana masuala ya uhandisi kwa hiyo naamini anajua anachokisema. Kitu kirahisi kwa mtu mwerevu kama wewe ni kusema kuwa hawa jamaa hawajafunga ofisi maana ofisi ao ziko mtaa fulani na directors ni fulani na fulani. Fool that you are, hicho kinakushinda kwa hiyo unakimbilia matusi.

Mimi sijawahi kupinga kuwa Norconsult imefinga ofisi au kuwa kuna tuhuma za rushwa dhidi ya watendaji wake! In fwakt, nimesema kuhusika kwa NorConsult katika utayarishaji wa EIA ya mradi wa Soda Ash kunanifanya nizid kupoteza imani na mradi wenyewe! Hii siyo seal of approval by any means.

Mimi sikuingia JF kuwa cheerleader wa upande wowote. Siwezi kukimbilia kumhusisha JK katika kila scandal inayotokea Tanzania. Mpaka sasa sijaona kitu chochote cha kumhusisha JK katika hili suala ukiondoe upenzi wake wa timu moja ya mpira aliyokuwa akiongoza Mtendaji mkuu wa hii kampuni. This is hardly a sin maana naamini kisa kuna Yanga wengi tu ambao si wafuasi wake wala chama chake. Wazembe wa kufikiri kama wewe ndiyo wanaokimbilia kumwita anayepingana nao fisadi ili kuficha ignorance yao. Mimi hatari kwa safety, kwa vipi? Kwamba unahisi kuwa na mimi niko kwenye system? Unaogopa nini wakati uko ulaya na umepania kumkoma nyani ghiladi? Ni wapi nimepinga haki yako ya kufanya hivyo? Wewe mtu wa facts, una uhakika gani kuwa JK amekuwa kimya kuhusu hili suala? Kwa vile hajatangazia uma? Unajuaje kuwa ameongea na nchi husika, yaani Norway? Wewe kama uliishawahi kuwa consultant, unaogopa nini kutupa lawama pale panapostahili? Yaani kwa hizo regulatory bodies, TRA n.k. Au unaamini kuwa kwa miaka yote hii JK alikuwa anawaagiza ERB wasiichukulie hatua kampuni hii? Au mwenzetu una ushahidi wa hivyo vi memo!

Don't flatter yourself kuwa nilikuattack. Kwa nini nijisumbue kufanya hivyo wakati your ignorance is obvious to anyone who has been in the engineering industry in Tanzania? Fool! Mwenzako, mimi uniitae idiot Fisadi,nilidhani kuwa Soda Ash ya Lake Natron itakwisha hivi karibuni mpaka hapo nilipofahamishwa kuwa kuna vijito kutoka Oldonyo Lengai ndiyo vinavyoileta hiyo Soda kwenye ziwa hilo kwa hiyo kwa wakati wa uhai wa hiyo volcano Soda Ash itakuwepo kwenye ziwa hilo. Sikujua hili na nimemshukuru aliyenielimisha. Kwangu mimi huu ndiyo uzuri wa Forum kama hii. Kuelimishana na kubadilishana mawazo hata pale mnapotofautiana. Watu kama wewe mnaitia kiwingu kwa kutaka msujudiwe kuwa mnajua kila kitu.

Utasemaje kuwa NorConsult left in a hurry? Hawa jamaa wameita Press conference na kueleza umma kuwa wanafunga ofisi yao kutokana na kuhisi kuwa kuna vitendo vya rushwa katika ofisi yao hapa nchini na kuwa wameisha wataarifu vyombo vinavyohusika huko kwao. Hawa bado wapo ila wameanza hatua za kufunga ofisi zao ambazo zitachukua muda hasa kama kuna mikataba ambayo wanahusika. Your ignorance shows again.

Kama kumkoma nyani ghilani au whatever ndiyo huku, basi bila shaka huko aliko JK anapata usingizi mwanana.

For your information, msomi wewe, kuna tofauti kati ya right na write. Na kama unaijua kweli CarlBro mbona unakazania kuiita Car Bro? Fool!

 

[Ogah]

Fundi Mchundo & Dua

.......tunawaheshimuni sana kwa michango yenu hapa JF.......JF is more than these personal vendettas.........think abt it...........na sameheaneni.........na tuendelee kukata ishus......nchi iko njia panda

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

With all due respect, Mkuu Ogah!

Huyu jamaa aliniita idiot nikasema ewala sasa ameona haitoshi ameongezea sifa nyingine ya kuwa mimi inawezekana niko kwenye payroll ya mafisadi na insinuations nyingine kuwa ni mtu hatari! Naamini kuna sehemu nyingine bila shaka anaweza kuwa ana hekima lakini kwenye hili kwangu mimi amejionyesha kuwa he(kama ni he) is just an ignorant fool! Mtu mwenye hekima gani anaweza kumshambulia mtu kwa kukiri kutokuwa na hakika na kutumia neno nadhani? Mimi kukiri kuwa sina uhakika kama Howard Humphreys na CowiConsult wanaoperate bado Tanzania yeye ameona ni weakness? Mimi kukiri kuwa sina uhakika kuwa hizi kampuni ndiyo pekee za kigeni zinazofanya consultancy katika uhandisi nalo limekuwa kosa? Basi, iko kazi.

Sitaki na sihitaji kuwa na vendetta na ignoramuses kama hawa ambao pengine humu ndimo wanapopata nafasi ya kujibalaghua na kujiona nao ni Senior Experts.

NADHANI nimetumia muda wa kutosha kumfahamisha wapi ninakotokea na sina la ziada la kuongezea. Hana kitu cha kuniongezea katika ufundi mchundo wangu. Enough said.

 

[William J. Malecela]

1. Now can you show me where I said Konoike are contractors or consultants? That's yours to judge, more so a company can remain dormant for years without operations that can be a case for Car Bro and others. I know for sure the representative of H. P. Gauff is still in Tanzania, now somebody is trying his best with his idiotic mentality. (Nadhani?) we don't dhania here, we right facts as they happen.

2. Now the issue has changed in regard to the consultants who still operate in Tanzania, while somebody anadhania. Well nobody disputes the fact that Norconsult left in a hurry let alone Why JK Government is silent about this issue.

Mchundo and Nyama Hatari know the fact that either they are in Mafisadi's pay role to silent all those who questions the rotten eggs within the government system and think that by attacking me the matter will rest.

Of course one idiot can support another. And only idiots can't prove anything as they are. They become loafers. Tanzania is bigger than few FISADI'S here and there and people like Mchundo and Hatari. BTW Mchundo can be Hatari for your safety..

Nyani ataendelea kukomwa tu hapa hata mkiwapigia madebe hadi kwenye vilima vya Giladi. We want the government to take stern measures for all those involved in this saga.

Mkuu Ogah,

Heshima mbele mkuu, hiii ndio tunaita kumkoma nyani giladi mpaka vilima vya Golani, sasa wacha wanaume hapa wapambane vita vya ideas, ambavyo ndio hasa the goal ya sisi wote kuwepo hapa, kwa sababu ni only through kumkoma nyani ndio huwa tunapata ukweli ulipo, wewe kuna mahali kule mtu mmoja ameandika uongo you almost beleived him mpaka nilipomkoma nyani ndio akakubali kuwa ni muongo, sasa acha watu wapambanishe ideas hapa sisi sio wajinga maana hapa tunaona nani ana ukweli na nani hana ukweli!

Watu wazima huwa hatupendi kutishiana nyau wakati paka yupo, wewe mwenyewe mara nyingi hapa huwa unamkoma nyani bila kuingiliwa please kaaa pembeni acha tule education hapa, haya wanangu wekeni vitu hapa,

Mkuu Dua siielewi vizuri hii ishu lakini so far I like your stand, kwa sababu huzunguki mbuyu straight to the point!

I love it! and keep it up!

 

[Masanja]

Lakini Dua is doing the same thing which he is accusing FM of! yeye mbona huo ushahidi hajauweka hapa? Without prejudice kwa yeyote..Dua ameshindwa kuweka ushahidi kuprove point yake! amebaki na conspiracy theories....

Again I think Dua hajamtendea haki muungwana Mchundo..kwani huwezi fikisha ujumbe au kumkoma Nyani bila name calling..jamani..calling somebody Idiot nk nadhani is too low....Dua was just ballistic! na humu hatujuani..so lets conduct a dignified discussion! It is worthy it..than name branding!

Otherwise na tuendelee!

 

[Idimi]

Waangesoma Pundit post na hili gazeti niliopata kwa Pundit's post
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1790242.ece

Corruption investigation for Norconsult
The World Bank is investigating Norwegian consultancy Norconsult on suspicion of corruption in connection with an aid project in Tanzania.
Norconsult chief John Nyheim confirmed that he notified special economic crime division Økokrim about the situation on Tuesday.

According to financial daily Dagens Næringsliv, USD 146,500 (about NOK 900,000) has disappeared from a Tanzanian project account belonging to Norconsult.

Norconsult is taking part in a development project to improved the water supply to 2.5 million inhabitants of Tanzania's financial capital Dar es Salaam, in cooperation with two smaller companies from the Netherlands and Tanzania.

The project is financed by the World Bank. Last September bank representatives appeared at the project office in Dar es Salaam due to suspicions that the money's disappearance was linked to corruption.

The World Bank also sent people to Norconsult's head office in Sandvika outside of Oslo but found nothing. According to Dagens Næringsliv, this was because relevant documents had been shredded.

Norconsult board chairman Per Kristian Jacobsen told DN that certain employees had seen something that is likely corruption, without reporting it via official channels.

Neither Økokrim nor the World Bank would comment on the matter.

Ndugu Mwanatanu, habari hii ilileta msukosuko sana hata nchini Norway kwenyewe, achilia mbali hapa Tanzania ambapo watu wanashikana mashati. Serikali ya Norway inadaia kwamba Norconsult wanaharibu jina la nchi kwa makosa ya rushwa, hivyo wanaharibu hata sifa za kampuni nyingine za Kinorway zilizo nchini, k.v. Norplan AS, NCC, SWECO nk. Makosa ya rushwa nchini Norway hayana simile na hayavumiliki, ndio sababu hata katika taarifa hapo juu Bw nyheim anasema kwamba jamaa walichanachana mafaili baada ya kuona mambo yanaenda kombo.
Yapo yanakuja, tutasikia hukumu tu muda si mrefu!

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

Ifuatayo ni taarifa kuhusu mradi wa City water ambamo kampuni za Biwater plc ya uingereza, inayomilikiwa na Adrian White, HP Gauff Ingenieure GmbH na Superdoll Trailer manufacturing ya Tanzania waliungana kuunda kampuni ya Biwater Gauff(Tanzania) Limited ambayo ilishinda zabuni ya ku'manage' system ya maji ya Dar es Salaam. Waliunda kampuni ya City Water Services kutekeleza zabuni hiyo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/aug/16/imf.internationalaidanddevelopment

Kampuni iliyoingia ubia na Biwater plc ni kampuni mama ya HP Gauff Ingenieure na si branch yao iliyokuwa Tanzania. Uwezekano vile vile upo kuwa wamefungua tena ofisi Tanzania ( mwenye anuani yake atufahamishe). Hii hata hivyo haibadilishi ukweli kuwa hapo awali walifunga ofisi zao. Kufunga ofisi hakuna maana kuwa ndiyo hawatafanya tena biashara nchini humo hali ikiruhusu. Barclays bank waliondoka kitambo na leo wamerudi kwa kishindo. Ndiyo biashara ilivyo.

Carl Bro A/S ilinunuliwa na kampuni ya kidachi iitwayo Grontmij mnamo mwaka 2006. Hakuna kitu kinachowazuia Grontmij kupitia kampuni yake Carl bro kufanya tena biasharaTtanzania kama watataka. Ninavyojua mimi mpaka sasa hawajafanya hivyo. kwa wale ambao wana hakika kuwa wako tanzania basi watupe anuani zao (location na web) ili tukaombe kazi!

Kuna haja ya kuacha grandstanding na kudhani kutumia sauti ya juu ndiyo kushinda mada. Tuwaheshimu wanaoingia na kusoma michango yetu kuwa hata kama pengine hawajasoma kama sisi wana uwezo wa kuhakikisha tunayoyazungumzia.

Nasikitika kuwa kuna watu hawaoni tatizo mimi kuitwa 'idiot' lakini walikuja juu sana nilipotumia neno pumbavu. Au kumuita mtu idiot katika harakati za huko mnakoita kumkoma nyani whatever ni ruksa?

Na mwisho, siko humu ku'entertain' watu. Kwa hiyo samahani sana kwa wale waliovuta viti kushuhudia michapo. It is not my style, therefore, I am out of here!

Amandla!

 

[Masanja]

Ifuatayo ni taarifa kuhusu mradi wa City water ambamo kampuni za Biwater plc ya uingereza, inayomilikiwa na Adrian White, HP Gauff Ingenieure GmbH na Superdoll Trailer manufacturing ya Tanzania waliungana kuunda kampuni ya Biwater Gauff(Tanzania) Limited ambayo ilishinda zabuni ya ku'manage' system ya maji ya Dar es Salaam. Waliunda kampuni ya City Water Services kutekeleza zabuni hiyo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/aug/16/imf.internationalaidanddevelopment

Kampuni iliyoingia ubia na Biwater plc ni kampuni mama ya HP Gauff Ingenieure na si branch yao iliyokuwa Tanzania. Uwezekano vile vile upo kuwa wamefungua tena ofisi Tanzania ( mwenye anuani yake atufahamishe). Hii hata hivyo haibadilishi ukweli kuwa hapo awali walifunga ofisi zao. Kufunga ofisi hakuna maana kuwa ndiyo hawatafanya tena biashara nchini humo hali ikiruhusu. Barclays bank waliondoka kitambo na leo wamerudi kwa kishindo. Ndiyo biashara ilivyo.

Carl Bro A/S ilinunuliwa na kampuni ya kidachi iitwayo Grontmij mnamo mwaka 2006. Hakuna kitu kinachowazuia Grontmij kupitia kampuni yake Carl bro kufanya tena biasharaTtanzania kama watataka. Ninavyojua mimi mpaka sasa hawajafanya hivyo. kwa wale ambao wana hakika kuwa wako tanzania basi watupe anuani zao (location na web) ili tukaombe kazi!

Kuna haja ya kuacha grandstanding na kudhani kutumia sauti ya juu ndiyo kushinda mada. Tuwaheshimu wanaoingia na kusoma michango yetu kuwa hata kama pengine hawajasoma kama sisi wana uwezo wa kuhakikisha tunayoyazungumzia.

Nasikitika kuwa kuna watu hawaoni tatizo mimi kuitwa 'idiot' lakini walikuja juu sana nilipotumia neno pumbavu. Au kumuita mtu idiot katika harakati za huko mnakoita kumkoma nyani whatever ni ruksa?

Na mwisho, siko humu ku'entertain' watu. Kwa hiyo samahani sana kwa wale waliovuta viti kushuhudia michapo. It is not my style, therefore, I am out of here!

Amandla!

Its a statement and a virtue we should all strive for here in JF. Thanks FM for spoting it! I hope na wengine tutakuunga mkoni. Mi always naamini kama una knowledge na access ya kubonyeza hii Keyboard ya computer, ni kwamba ulifuta ujinga and you are generally a "middle class" au "matawi ya juu" kwa level yetu ya bongo hapa..., sasa we have to reflect our standing and what the public expects from JF!. Kukuta matusi kwenye blog kama ya muungwana Michuzi si ajabu lakini JF? hapa ni jamvi makini bandugu.... hii siyo blogu ya picha ni kisima cha kumkoma NYANI mchana kweupe!


Lets be civil. Again fundi thanks for reminding us our responsibility in discussion!!

 

[The Invincible]

Norconsult has not been smart enough kuwaibia watanzania. That could be their only mistake. Otherwise, how could you explain the theory or claim that out of billions of green buck invested in our poor lands, only 10% remains in these countries? The rest flies back to the country of origin called the West!?

 

[Ogah]

Mkuu Ogah,

Heshima mbele mkuu, hiii ndio tunaita kumkoma nyani giladi mpaka vilima vya Golani, sasa wacha wanaume hapa wapambane vita vya ideas, ambavyo ndio hasa the goal ya sisi wote kuwepo hapa, kwa sababu ni only through kumkoma nyani ndio huwa tunapata ukweli ulipo, wewe kuna mahali kule mtu mmoja ameandika uongo you almost beleived him mpaka nilipomkoma nyani ndio akakubali kuwa ni muongo, sasa acha watu wapambanishe ideas hapa sisi sio wajinga maana hapa tunaona nani ana ukweli na nani hana ukweli!

Watu wazima huwa hatupendi kutishiana nyau wakati paka yupo, wewe mwenyewe mara nyingi hapa huwa unamkoma nyani bila kuingiliwa please kaaa pembeni acha tule education hapa, haya wanangu wekeni vitu hapa,

Mkuu Dua siielewi vizuri hii ishu lakini so far I like your stand, kwa sababu huzunguki mbuyu straight to the point!

I love it! and keep it up!

......something gotta believe in and stand for it.......sina beef na mtu yeyote hapa, mzee mwenzangu Dua tumetoka naye mbali..........yeye ni kichwa hapa JF hilo halina ubishi.......same applies to Fundi.........

Mkuu FMES, kama ungekuwa umesoma maandishi yao yote wote wawili tokea mwanzo.....you could have seen where i'm coming from.......fact zimewekwa hapa....na kila kitu kiko wazi...........

.....my only few cents.....kwa hawa wakuu wangu wawili Dua na Fundi......it was just an advise......after seeing them going beyond facts!!.......to personal vendettas (which i believe thats not the way kumkoma nyani hapa JF).......if they take it......its ok!!........if they don't....thats ok too.......

......i agree......b'se im only a human....just like anybody.........kama kuna sehemu i almost believed in somebody's uongo.......na wewe ukaja kuweka facts straight.....and i concurred with you.......whats the fuss then?.........sometimes its difficult to remember everything......can you please remind me ni ishu gani ilikuwa?...........si unajua uzee huu tena

 

[Halisi]

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Yanga mlie hela za dezo za kutoka kwa Kifukwe zimeisha!!!!

Kwi kwi kwi kwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!


Connection ya JK na Kifukwe ni Yanga , ina maana sasa JK mchezo huu aliujua pia lakini akaamua kumeza kaa la ama ?

Pole pole, tunakuja mahali patamu sana lakini pagumu pia. Kwa taarifa yenu ni kwamba kuna UTATU MTAKATIFU KATIKA TENDA ZOTE ZA NCHI HII NA MAKAMPUNI YE KIGENI NAYO YANATUMIKA KATIKA NA HAO WENYE UTATU KUFANIKISHA UFISADI MKUBWA ZAIDI KUWAHI KUONEKANA. Kwa hili tunakaribia UKWELI MCHUNGU

 

[Halisi]

Nikodemus Komu anajua

 

[Dua]

Naona kuna haja ya kukutolea uvivu. Kwa kuwa umevikwa hiyo title ya Senior Expert Member unaamini unajua kila kitu! Haujui.

Did I claim I know everything .... No …. Affirmative.

Nilisema nadhani kuhusu Cowi Consult na Howard Humphreys kwa sababu sijui kama bado wanaoperate Tanzania. Sina haja ya kujifanya kuwa najua jambo wakati sina uhakika nalo. Carl Bro,H.P. Gauff GmbH ( waliokuwa wanaoperate kama consultants) na Sweco nina UHAKIKA kuwa waliishafunga ofisi zao za consultancy nchini. Kauli yangu kuhusu CarlBro iliungwa mkono na Morani ambaye ni mmoja wa wanachama wanaochangia sana masuala ya uhandisi kwa hiyo naamini anajua anachokisema. Kitu kirahisi kwa mtu mwerevu kama wewe ni kusema kuwa hawa jamaa hawajafunga ofisi maana ofisi ao ziko mtaa fulani na directors ni fulani na fulani. Fool that you are, hicho kinakushinda kwa hiyo unakimbilia matusi.

Sasa hujui kama hizo kampuni zina-operate. Hebu nionyeshe tusi nililokutukana ….all my writings are here plain and clear, Just don't cry as a victim.

Mimi sijawahi kupinga kuwa Norconsult imefinga ofisi au kuwa kuna tuhuma za rushwa dhidi ya watendaji wake! In fwakt, nimesema kuhusika kwa NorConsult katika utayarishaji wa EIA ya mradi wa Soda Ash kunanifanya nizid kupoteza imani na mradi wenyewe! Hii siyo seal of approval by any means.

Mimi sikuingia JF kuwa cheerleader wa upande wowote. Siwezi kukimbilia kumhusisha JK katika kila scandal inayotokea Tanzania. Mpaka sasa sijaona kitu chochote cha kumhusisha JK katika hili suala ukiondoe upenzi wake wa timu moja ya mpira aliyokuwa akiongoza Mtendaji mkuu wa hii kampuni. This is hardly a sin maana naamini kisa kuna Yanga wengi tu ambao si wafuasi wake wala chama chake. Wazembe wa kufikiri kama wewe ndiyo wanaokimbilia kumwita anayepingana nao fisadi ili kuficha ignorance yao. Mimi hatari kwa safety, kwa vipi? Kwamba unahisi kuwa na mimi niko kwenye system? Unaogopa nini wakati uko ulaya na umepania kumkoma nyani ghiladi? Ni wapi nimepinga haki yako ya kufanya hivyo? Wewe mtu wa facts, una uhakika gani kuwa JK amekuwa kimya kuhusu hili suala? Kwa vile hajatangazia uma? Unajuaje kuwa ameongea na nchi husika, yaani Norway? Wewe kama uliishawahi kuwa consultant, unaogopa nini kutupa lawama pale panapostahili? Yaani kwa hizo regulatory bodies, TRA n.k. Au unaamini kuwa kwa miaka yote hii JK alikuwa anawaagiza ERB wasiichukulie hatua kampuni hii? Au mwenzetu una ushahidi wa hivyo vi memo!

At least now you come clean to tell us where you belong, do you think to govern a country is like governing your football club? Now show me where I called you Fisadi, you just flip flop your understanding as a kindergarten kid. (Au kwa lugha nyepesi tunaita upimbi).

If you read carefully my article I wrote........the fact that either they are in Mafisadi’s pay role………….again you claim I attacked JK personally yes I might have attacked him personally but not on this thread mark my words ………………….Well nobody disputes the fact that Norconsult left in a hurry let alone Why JK Government is silent about this issue.

Well can you show me where I called you idiot? Or may be we are in a very different level …..

This is what I wrote….Sometimes some other people act as idiots in the sense that There isn't any place whatsoever where I claimed Konoike to be consultants, my words are as stated above.

Let Fundi Mchundo ascertain and prove that H. P. Gauff GmbH, Carl Bro have left Tanzania? Can he precisely tell us when did they pack and go? I never mentioned Sweco did I?
Does that mean you are an Idiot? Unless you want to tell us you are one of them. Then if that is the case its up to you.

BTW this still stands:

4. Je serikali ya JK itachukua hatua gani kwa kampuni hii (Norconsult AS ambayo kutokana na vitendo vyake inakubali kuvunja sheria) na zile ambazo hazikusajiliwa kihalali?


Je, Kampuni zingine kama Konoike, Cowiconsult, H. P. Gauff GmbH, Carbro na nyinginezo hawana matatizo kama yaliyowakumba Norconsult?

Don't flatter yourself kuwa nilikuattack. Kwa nini nijisumbue kufanya hivyo wakati your ignorance is obvious to anyone who has been in the engineering industry in Tanzania? Fool!

At least you know what you wrote above …..

Mimi sijawahi kupinga kuwa Norconsult imefinga ofisi au kuwa kuna tuhuma za rushwa dhidi ya watendaji wake! In fwakt,..

Do you think only those in engineering know better eh! Welcome to the world.

Mwenzako, mimi uniitae idiot Fisadi,nilidhani kuwa Soda Ash ya Lake Natron itakwisha hivi karibuni mpaka hapo nilipofahamishwa kuwa kuna vijito kutoka Oldonyo Lengai ndiyo vinavyoileta hiyo Soda kwenye ziwa hilo kwa hiyo kwa wakati wa uhai wa hiyo volcano Soda Ash itakuwepo kwenye ziwa hilo. Sikujua hili na nimemshukuru aliyenielimisha. Kwangu mimi huu ndiyo uzuri wa Forum kama hii. Kuelimishana na kubadilishana mawazo hata pale mnapotofautiana. Watu kama wewe mnaitia kiwingu kwa kutaka msujudiwe kuwa mnajua kila kitu.

How does this relate to the matter at hand and what I raised? Acha kulialia kama Chenge.

Utasemaje kuwa NorConsult left in a hurry? Hawa jamaa wameita Press conference na kueleza umma kuwa wanafunga ofisi yao kutokana na kuhisi kuwa kuna vitendo vya rushwa katika ofisi yao hapa nchini na kuwa wameisha wataarifu vyombo vinavyohusika huko kwao. Hawa bado wapo ila wameanza hatua za kufunga ofisi zao ambazo zitachukua muda hasa kama kuna mikataba ambayo wanahusika. Your ignorance shows again.

You don’t understand do you? What does hurry mean in the content?

Kama kumkoma nyani ghilani au whatever ndiyo huku, basi bila shaka huko aliko JK anapata usingizi mwanana.

For your information, msomi wewe, kuna tofauti kati ya right na write. Na kama unaijua kweli CarlBro mbona unakazania kuiita Car Bro? Fool!

At least you know what you wrote above …..

Mimi sijawahi kupinga kuwa Norconsult imefinga ofisi au kuwa kuna tuhuma za rushwa dhidi ya watendaji wake! In fwakt,..

BTW what I raised still stands …………Pesa ya walipa kodi inatafunwa halafu tusiulize kulikoni kwa JK na serikai yake? You must be kidding.……………… As a matter of fact so far JF has scored a lot on JK’s Government machinery ……..Chenge, EL, Balali etc. just to mention a few and yet we have other people who think they can continue to fool us and tafuna pesa ya walipa kodi. Let those in JK’s government take stern measures to these grabbers once and for all. Then we can listen to what they say.

 

[Pundit]

Kifukwe achunguzwe kwa Money laundering.

 

[BAK]

Government to sue Norconsult

By Tom Mosoba and Mkinga Mkinga
THE CITIZEN

The Government yesterday said it will sue the Norwegian engineering consulting firm, Norconsult, following its abrupt decision to pull out of Tanzania following corruption allegations.

Tanzania Roads Agency (Tanroads), the Government's arm dealing with infrastructure projects in which Norconsult was involved, revealed that company still had some binding contracts.

Tanroads executive director Ephraem Mrema told The Citizen that the Government would have no option but to sue Norconsult should it leave before fulfilling all its contracts.

''They have not officially informed us of the decision to close their offices.

We have read about it on their company website and in your newspaper,'' said Mr Mrema.

Norconsult's global president, Mr John Nyheim, announced on Sunday that the company was closing its Dar es Salaam office, accusing its local partner, Norconsult Tanzania Limited, of engaging in corruption.

But nearly a week since Norconsult's announcement that it would wind up its Tanzanian operations, government officials said yesterday that they had not received any communication on the reported pullout by the firm.

However, a top official at the Norwegian embassy in Dar es Salaam confirmed in an email to The Citizen that they had been informed that Norconsult was closing shop.

''Yes, we were notified yesterday (Monday).

It is sad that a relatively large consultancy business with competence has to close after 40 years of operation,'' said Ms Kristin Sverdrup, deputy head of Mission at the Royal Norwegian Embassy.

According to Mr Mrema, Norconsult should have informed Tanroads of their decision to cease operations in Tanzania, as stipulated in their contract.

He said the company was implementing five major infrastructure development projects.

He listed the road projects as Marangu-Rombo Mkuu, Usagara-Geita, Tarakea-Kamwanga and the Unity Bridge on the Tanzania-Mozambique border.

The firm was also doing a feasibility study and design for the Nzega-Tabora road.

On whether the projects would be disrupted, Mr Mrema said Norconsult had its employees on site.

''They will have to tell us who will take over these assignments when they move out,'' he said.

Infrastructural experts argued that should the company abandon the projects, they would be forced to suspend them for a while to call for fresh bids for consultancy services.

Mr Mrema could, however, give no firm confirmation, only reiterating that they were still working with Norconsult.

Ms Sverdrup said the pullout would not adversely affect the Norwegian Government's bilateral relations with Tanzania.

''Norcounsult is a private company.

Their closure will not have any affect on Norwegian bilateral development cooperation with Tanzania.

The Embassy has no direct contractual arrangements with Norconsult,'' she said.

The embassy, she added, had not aware of any corruption allegations against Norconsult until the statement that was released by the mother company in Norway.

The deputy minister for Infrastructural Development, Dr Makongoro Mahanga, also said the law would be left take its own course over the Norconsult contracts.

''I don't want to say anything at the moment as it is too early for concrete action.

If they have decided to close their offices and move out, we will have to look at what their contracts say,'' Dr Mahanga said.

According to the statement that announced the firm's decision to quit Tanzania, audits done over the past one year had revealed embezzlement of up to Sh332 million in irregular payments at Norconsult's offices in Dar es Salaam.

The decision to cancel Norconsult's lucrative contracts in Tanzania, however, was curiously taken after The Citizen exclusively reported two weeks ago how the Norwegian company had operated for a decade without any form of official registration.

Norconsult AS, has since 1998, run business as Norconsult Tanzania Limited, but did not obtain official registration from the Business Registration and Licensing Agency until this year, according to confirmation by the Engineering Registration Board.

That anomaly did not, however, prevent Norconsult from executing huge projects overseen by the Government, the World Bank and the Norwegian Embassy.

It has over the years been one of the major engineering consultancy firms in Tanzania.

Other projects, in which the company has been involved in recent years, include the Sengerema-Busagara road (Sh35.7 billion), Geita-Sengerema road (Sh39.5 billion) and the Unity Bridge is southern Tanzania.

Others are the Rongai-Kamwanga road (Sh14.5 billion), Marangu-Rombo Mkuu road (Sh23.3 billion) as well as the Tarakea-Kamonaga and Mwika-Kilacha roads.

Others include the World Bank-funded Dar es Salaam Water Supply and Sanitation Project, a joint venture with a local company and a Dutch firm that was signed in July 2003.

A Norwegian publication, Development Today, which is working closely with The Citizen on the investigation, says the $6.7 million project might lead to Norconsult's blacklisting by the Work Bank.

Other reports also say that Norconsult was being investigated for alleged tax evasion amounting to Sh2.4 billion.

Norconsult AS's local partner and managing director, Mr Francis Kifukwe, would not comment despite several attempts by The Citizen to seek for his views.

In the statement announcing the company's withdrawal, Mr Nyheim said Norconsult AS was perturbed by its operations in Tanzania, which he said did not measure up to the company's international code of ethics and contracts.

''We do not accept any kind of misconduct or corruption.

As a consequence, we cease our activities in Tanzania,'' said Mr Nyheim.

''Internal and external reviews of the activities of Norconsult's partly-owned subsidiary in Tanzania have revealed activity that is not in accordance with the company's Code of Ethics and contracts.''

He said the misconduct was revealed through Norconsult's own internal review followed by an external review by PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PwC).

Mr Nyheim gave examples through which a total of Sh332 million was believed to have been corruptly obtained from its local operations.

''It has been established that in the past several irregular cash payments have been made from Norconsult's partly-owned subsidiary in Tanzania, NTZ, totalling NOK (Norwegian Kronor) 650.000 (Sh156 million),'' he said.

Last year, $146 500 (Sh176 million) was paid out in cash from the project office in Dar es Salaam, with only petty cash receipts as documentation.

This case apparently involved Norconsult's participation in the World Bank funded Dar es Salaam Water and Sanitation Project (DAWASA).

What has raised eyebrows is how the company could have taken the public organs for a ride for so long.

The second question is how it was able to undertake public and donor-funded projects worth billions of shillings without paying a penny in taxes since 1991, without being detected.

''These people are said to have a minimum turnover of between $3 million and $4 million annually.

If the allegations against the company are true, then it means that hands may have been greased and taxes amounting to billions of shillings not paid,'' a tax expert told The Citizen.

 

[William J. Malecela]

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......something gotta believe in and stand for it.......sina beef na mtu yeyote hapa, mzee mwenzangu Dua tumetoka naye mbali..........yeye ni kichwa hapa JF hilo halina ubishi.......same applies to Fundi.........Mkuu FMES, kama ungekuwa umesoma maandishi yao yote wote wawili tokea mwanzo.....you could have seen where i'm coming from.......fact zimewekwa hapa....na kila kitu kiko wazi...........

Mkuu baada ya kuisoma hii ishu ndio maana nimeamua kuwa Mkuu Dua, ndiye mwenye ukweli, kama wewe ulivyouona ukweli ukiwa wazi au? And bado ninaaamini kuwa Dua ana ukweli, ndio maana hasa ya kustand for something kwenye any ishu au? Ni kusimama na kusema ukweli jinsi unavyoona kwa sababu kama watu wawili wanarushiana mawe on the ishu, maana yake ni kuwa ukweli na kila kitu hauko wazi kama ulivyosema, ungekuwepo basi kusingekuwa na mawe, au?

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.....my only few cents.....kwa hawa wakuu wangu wawili Dua na Fundi......it was just an advise......after seeing them going beyond facts!!.......to personal vendettas (which i believe thats not the way kumkoma nyani hapa JF).......if they take it......its ok!!........if they don't....thats ok too.......

Ushauri wangu kwako ulikuwa ni waache wapigane mawe ili tupate ukweli wa ishu, maana inaonekana ndio njia pekee hapa JF ya kupata ukweli, ni kumkoma nyani na ninaamini kuwa Dua did exactly that kwa kumpiga mawe nyani bila kumuangalia usoni, binafsi sijaiona personal vendetta, maana muosha ni lazima naye aoshwe, ninaziona hoja toka pande zote mbili lakini msimamo wangu ninasimama na hoja za Mkuu Dua, kuna topic nyingi sana humu watu hupigana mawe sijaona ukishauri anything, mbona hii juu juu vipi? Acha mawe yapigwe tule elimu nzito hapa mkuu is that asking for too much bro? or a fuss?

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......i agree......b'se im only a human....just like anybody.........kama kuna sehemu i almost believed in somebody's uongo.......na wewe ukaja kuweka facts straight.....and i concurred with you.......whats the fuss then?.........sometimes its difficult to remember everything......can you please remind me ni ishu gani ilikuwa?...........si unajua uzee huu tena

Nafikiri ukirudia post yangu hakuna mahali nimesema you concurred with me, hapana nimesema kuwa jamaa alitaka kudanganya nikaweka record straight, ukweli unaujua mkuu muda wa kuzunguka mbuyu sina, maana unajua kuwa nilipoweka record straight hukurudi tena, halafu sidhani kama wewe kutoa ushauri kwa wahusika na mimi kukupa ushauri wewe on the same ishu maana yake ni a fuss! hapana ni ushauri tu kama wewe ulioutoa kwa wahusika sidhani kama ushauri wako ulikuwa ni a fuss! au?

Ninaomba nikukumbushe kuwa kupigana mawe sio personal vendetta, wabunge wa Kenya na South Korea wanapopigana viti bungeni huwa sio kwa sababu ya personal vendetta, hapana ila huwa ni sababu ya uchungu wa taifa lao, sasa na sisi wabongo tufikie mahali tujifunze haya kuwa kwenye kupigania taifa kuna wakati kutakuwa na mawe na kumkoma nyani, it has nothing to do na personal vendetta ila ni uchungu tu na taifa tu!, Kwa hiyo tuwaachie wakuu waendelee kurusha mawe, maana in the process kuna tunajifunza elimu nzito sana, wakuu wekeni vitu hapa tule elimu ya bure!

 

[MwanaHabari]

how can they sue a company for not fulfilling its contracts when the company was operating illegally in the first place..

 

[Ogah]

I'm glad wahusika walinielewa

 

[Chuma]

Hao wachaga/wapare wa TANROADs nao mafisadi tu...nao vilevile wachunguzwe...washakwiba saana!!!