Charlie Sheen reveals he is HIV Positive

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iArmaniAdamson

Don't put words on my mouth. I didn't say AIDS CAUSE ANY DISEASE. I think you have a little knowledge about AIDS and you don't know the difference between HIV and AIDS. I said HIV is harmless virus and do not cause any disease, not disease only but also it cannot kill T-cells . AIDS is there and it will be there. But the source is not HIV.

My friend, everyone knows that AIDS means acute immune deficiency in the body, people with AIDS die from flu, cancer, liver failure, ANY DISEASE whatsoever because the body cant defend itself.

But HIV is not the cause of that acute immune deficiency you'r talking.

you have said, a person with good health can live with AIDS for years and years it wont kill him as long as he supplements white blood cells to defend his body.

As I said before it seem you have a little knowledge about HIV/AIDS and the facts about these two antagonist group.
Denialists grasp that AIDS can be solved by nutrition and by people to live healthy lifestyle.

Finally AIDS is there and it'll be but the cause is not the virus.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

1. there is a clear link between HIV and AIDS, because people dont get AIDS randomly and people with HIV have AIDS.


Your big problem is that,you take this issue very lightly and easily.So I advice you to take time reading scientific paper below so as to make you understand that THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN HIV AND AIDS RATHER THAN CORRELATION which was brought about by your fake HIV tests.If you really want to understand why I always fight against this shit,then take your time to read that paper.Then I need you to bring here scientific paper(I mean scientific paper,I think you understand) that describes how/why HIV is the cause of AIDS,mind you,this paper should come from Gallo and Montagnier in order to make sense for they are the ones who claim to discover 'the so called HIV'.

Right, so let me break it down for one and for all.

The human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is a lentivirus (a subgroup of retrovirus) that causes HIV infection and acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS).

that above statement explains a FULL LINK between HIV and AIDS.

in simple terms, a virus, like flu virus, enters the body and a person becomes HIV infected, the virus PRIMARILY attacks "immunity" or "defence" of the body.. WHEN the defence is "down" a person becomes AID syndrome. basically, a "state" in which the body cant defend itself from as small sickness like flu... all soldiers down!

2.. AIDS is a condition than a disease in technical terms....


There you are!You are correct on this point,I have always been educating you fellow MDs about this fact but they never understood me,may be they are more brainwashed than you are,at least you, can understand these basic terms but your fellow MDs herein can't understand even these basics.Now you should take a burden to educate your fellow doctors about this.


Hey!! brothers and sisters in this forum,kwa kiswahili ni kwamba UKIMWI SI UGONJWA,BALI UKIMWI NI HALI,kitu hiki niliwahi kukisisitiza sana huko nyuma,pia daktari wetu hapa amesema kwamba ukimwi ni hali,hivyo tuko pamoja kwenye hili.

nimekuelewa hapo. ni kweli usemavyo.

AIDS is "syndrome" not "disease". we've touched base.

3.a person with good health can live with AIDS for years and years it wont kill him as long as he supplements white blood cells to defend his body THIS IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE DONT GRASP especially those you called "AIDS denialists"


This no 3 is what most MDs do not grasp especially those MDs who are brainwashed by pharmaceutical industry in order that they can be used as ARVs marketing managers.What you always think is to feed people with tons of ARVs from your 'godowns' rather than supplementing people with required nutrition and give them appropriate advice suitable for them according to their lifestyles.You always think of giving the whole burden to 'hypothetical magical HIV' which I bet you personally have never seen it.

yes, i will tell you the BIGGEST and strangest truth, in pharmaceutical industry there is SO MUCH MONEY to be made BY MAKING and KEEPING people sick, thats why many people are taking UNWANTED medicines for so long for no reason.

I normally give people advise first to use their own defences in their body, get your soldiers (white blood cells) in good number, strengthen them, by eating well and exercise, then protect yourself from possible contaminations, you follow that advice you will never need any drugs because your body is FULLY capable to withstand ANY infection.

NB:
I tell you doctor,"Those people whom you see/saw are/were weak in healthy and you diagnosed them HIV+ with your fake tests,they are not weak because of HIV,but they are weak because of something else which is hard for you MDs to grasp/understand(read the paper below).And again those who consume that poison from ARVs they are weak because ARVs CAUSES AIDS BY KILLING CELLS DUE TO ACIDOSIS AND OTHER MEANS(CYTOPENIA).If you argue on this then let's present here our facts for people to decide for themselves who is right between me you.


Again,this knowledge is not meant for you MDs,it is meant for laymen/ignorant people so that they can save themselves from HIV/AIDS regime VULTURES like you who benefit by earning a lot of dollars everyday by selling ARVs.


FYI,I am very successful as up to now for I have saved many people and many other people in this forum have understood what I really meant.So poor doctor you are too late to change these people for they are already out of your dangerous hands.

i understand the fact that many doctors are evil, i am not going to mask that fact, especially the doctors who run their own pharmacies/medic store. they will keep you sick for ever so they can make money. BUt i am not one of them.

2. HI virus is AS REAL AS flu virus.

you are probably lucky not to have seen an HIV+ person who does not have good diet and suffer from all kind of problems in their body because their body defence is too low to cope.

 

[mzee wa kigonzile]

Deception

Nimekupata kk, HIV ni jina mseto tu.

 

[mzee wa kigonzile]

kahtaan

Exactly

 

[Deception]

Acha kujitoa ufahamu na kupoteza maana. Unajua fika kuwa mtu haambukizwi AIDS Bali anaambukizwa VVU ambao ndio husababisha upungufu wa kinga na magonjwa yake yatokanayo,, a syndrome by the name AIDS.

Watu wenye akili zao wametulia tu, they find no basis ku-argue na wewe coz in the end you bring nothing to the table as far as facts and data are concerned. Umekalia ku refer watu tu,, kwa majina na video links,, lakini facts na data hakuna. Umekalia kusema huyu kasema hivi yule kasema vile,, Lakini huongelei tafiti hata mara moja. Hatuendi hvyo bro, this is science!!

Kuna utofauti mkubwa sana kati ya ujinga na upumbavu. Ujinga hupona, maana ni Hali ya mind kuwa tupu. On the other hand, mpumbavu ni yule ambaye hajui,, na hajui kwamba hajui,, Lakini yeye anaamini kwa dhati kabisa kwamba anajua.

Yaani wewe haya maneno ya kuonesha hutaki tena mjadala na mimi unayasema mara nyingi sana,lakini bado nakuona unaendelea kutuma post humu.

Sasa kati ya mimi na wewe ni nani amejitoa ufahamu?Sitegemei urudi tena humu kutuma post,vinginevyo utaendelea kudhihirishia umma wa humu ndani kwamba wewe ndio umejitoa ufahamu.Hivyo basi,I command you, kaa kimya!!!

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

mzee wa kigonzile

hence i sent an invitation for anyone who think there is no link between HIV and AIDS to meet me so i can demonstrate with open clinical experiment how the two are linked..

its simple procedure, which requires 4 six months terms.
1. i will count your white blood cells
2. i will do a direct clinical injection of HIV+ blood
3. WBC count will be done every months for duration of 2 years and all procedures explained in details

disclaimer: anyone taking part in this clinical trial is at risk to contaminate HI virus and they will do so at their own risk.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

 

[sumaibra]

Deception

Point 7.
Seriously I need an explanation

 

[Nicas Mtei]

Yaani wewe haya maneno ya kuonesha hutaki tena mjadala na mimi unayasema mara nyingi sana,lakini bado nakuona unaendelea kutuma post humu.

Sasa kati ya mimi na wewe ni nani amejitoa ufahamu?Sitegemei urudi tena humu kutuma post,vinginevyo utaendelea kudhihirishia umma wa humu ndani kwamba wewe ndio umejitoa ufahamu.Hivyo basi,I command you, kaa kimya!!!

Nimeku PM info flani. ipitie

 

[Deception]

iArmaniAdamson

1......nimekuelewa hapo. ni kweli usemavyo.

AIDS is "syndrome" not "disease". we've touched base.

Very good,safi sana doctor,this is the meaning of discussion.Nakupongeza kwa kuwa mkweli na muwazi.Hata mimi naona kabisa kwamba hapa tuko pamoja doctor.

2.yes, i will tell you the BIGGEST and strangest truth, in pharmaceutical industry there is SO MUCH MONEY to be made BY MAKING and KEEPING people sick, thats why many people are taking UNWANTED medicines for so long for no reason.

Excellent doctor!!I now get you slowly,I tell you for sure,doctors of your type are very very few,I didn't think before that you could know all these facts,keep it up doctor.

3. I normally give people advise first to use their own defences in their body, get your soldiers (white blood cells) in good number, strengthen them, by eating well and exercise, then protect yourself from possible contaminations, you follow that advice you will never need any drugs because your body is FULLY capable to withstand ANY infection.

Oooh doctor!you impress me very much indeed,now you are my friend since I am sure you can't kill any person by giving him/her unwanted drugs(ARVs for this case) if you follow all what you stated above as it is really needed.I think we can now be good friends despite some little differences between me and you about this issue.Because what I really don't allow to happen is to prescribe people with poisonous ARVs while there are very useful and simple/easy ways to solve their problems,good enough,I see you are doing the same thing as I want.Keep it up doctor.

4.i understand the fact that many doctors are evil, i am not going to mask that fact, especially the doctors who run their own pharmacies/medic store. they will keep you sick for ever so they can make money. BUt i am not one of them.

Doctor,I think between me and you,we are done on this issue despite little differences regarding the part of the so called HIV in causing AIDS.This can not make me and you not to be friends since what you do/act on people is what I really appreciate bila kujali kama HIV anasababisha Ukimwi au la.Keep it up.

5.HI virus is AS REAL AS flu virus.

you are probably lucky not to have seen an HIV+ person who does not have good diet and suffer from all kind of problems in their body because their body defence is too low to cope.

As I stated before,that we differ on this issue,but that shouldn't be the barrier.We can't compromise on everything,may be time will adjust these differences.But doctor,don't you see it is hard to know whether the HIV+ person on 5 above suffer from HIV or the lack of good diet?To resolve this,you need to provide the person above with good diet and treat his/her specific problems which make him/her to be weak,then observe.

All in all,I appreciate you very much for being of that type.Of your kind are very few indeed.You remind me of Luc Montagnier(the so called HIV co discover) statement which says:

"Our bodies get rid of HIV within few weeks if you have good immune system,...nutrition,proper antioxidants,hygiene measures and treating infections are very important things,.....you know the problem is that people always think of drugs and vaccines".Mwisho wa kunukuu.

Sasa wewe doctor unapita mulemule kama Montagnier alivyoshauri.Keep it up doctor.Usijali tofauti ndogo zilizopo kati ya mimi na wewe,tofauti hizi zitajiengua taratibu kutokana na muda.

Listen to Montagnier on the link below for only 4 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSSpoFq7uhM

 

[kahtaan]

Yaani wewe haya maneno ya kuonesha hutaki tena mjadala na mimi unayasema mara nyingi sana,lakini bado nakuona unaendelea kutuma post humu.

Sasa kati ya mimi na wewe ni nani amejitoa ufahamu?Sitegemei urudi tena humu kutuma post,vinginevyo utaendelea kudhihirishia umma wa humu ndani kwamba wewe ndio umejitoa ufahamu.Hivyo basi,I command you, kaa kimya!!!

Teh teh teh. Deception i never knew you use to be a Priest.
Since when you start commanding people in this Forum.

 

[kahtaan]

Deception we toa kashfa zako lkn kuna msemo mdogo unasema "dont try to kill a killer.
Ktk experiments history is secondary issue.
All The HIV denials never once provide scientific proof that those Viruses Never exists rather their arguments comes to the characteristics of virus detection.

Ukiwasikiliza hao wote uliwaleta hapa argument yao ina base kwenye kauli ya HIV Founder Dr Gallo who claims that HE PURIFIED THE HI Viruses .And by claiming that HE WAS WRONG and i AGREE WITH THEM ALL but... to prove that Virus do exists You dont have to necessary purify it,
we have something called "nonculture methods-which is common used nowadays. And sometimes Some viruses can be Isolated from cell cultures i.e HI Virus and most laboratories combine various culture and nonculture approaches to optimize viral disease diagnosis and Not PURIFICATION ONLY.!!
Sijui km umenielewa hapa. I hope you do.
Wewe kukataa Kuwa HIV Is Non existence unatakiwa Ulete Solid scientific evidence to support your claims kwa sababu ktk vyote ulivyoleta hapa Hakuna zaidi ya Speculation and assumptions from individuals. although most of the comments made do make sense but can NOT be taken as A SOLID EVIDENCE.

Tusiendelee kupoteza wakati hapa.

Km una ziada weka Tusome, huna please refrain from name calling.
Thank you

 

[kahtaan]

1."

With all do respect i have read your comments here and there is no way on earth you are a Doctor.
I dont want to go deep into this but thats that.
I mean, cant you be honest and plod on with arguments without telling lies!!
Please stop claiming something you dont possess or you will embarrass yourself in a minute.

Thank you.

 

[kahtaan]

iArmaniAdamson

I'll take that challenge.
Where is your clinic located.
No Doctor on planet will offer this kind of stupid challenge.
You just proved to everyone that you are not a good liar.
Aren't you the one who claim to help patients? Now you want to inflict someone with HIV to prove your stupid point.
And you finished your stupid comments by welcome everyone.!!!

You ain't a Doctor nor a nurse.
You sound like a mad devorced Midwife.
Shame on you.

 

[Deception]

... to prove that Virus do exists You dont have to necessary purify it,
we have something called "nonculture methods-which is common used nowadays. And sometimes Some viruses can be Isolated from cell cultures i.e HI Virus and most laboratories combine various culture and nonculture approaches to optimize viral disease diagnosis and Not PURIFICATION ONLY.!!
Sijui km umenielewa hapa. I hope you do.
Wewe kukataa Kuwa HIV Is Non existence unatakiwa Ulete Solid scientific evidence to support your claims kwa sababu ktk vyote ulivyoleta hapa Hakuna zaidi ulation and assumptions from individuals...

1.... to prove that Virus do exists You dont have to necessary purify it,
we have something called "nonculture methods-which is common used nowadays. And sometimes Some viruses can be Isolated from cell cultures i.e HI Virus and most laboratories combine various culture and nonculture approaches to optimize viral disease diagnosis and Not PURIFICATION ONLY.!!

You talk too much!!
Now,tell me which way was used that time during 1980's to know the structure/morphology of that scary virus with a lot of thorns/knobs which is seen in your BIG VOLUME books.Tell me,because I want to compare what you say and what was really thought to happen/be done by the so called HIV discoverers during that time.

2.Wewe kukataa Kuwa HIV Is Non existence unatakiwa Ulete Solid scientific evidence to support your claims kwa sababu ktk vyote ulivyoleta hapa Hakuna zaidi ulation and assumptions from individuals...

Let me come to you in another way;
Logically,if HIV can not cause AIDS then its name is meaningless,so it is very logical right there to say that HIV does not exist.That means,there is no Human Immunodeficiency Virus because no any virus known to exist that can cause suppression of immunity.
Therefore,HIV by virtue of its name,does not exist.If you think I am wrong,then prove me wrong by proving that the so called HIV causes AIDS.

Bring here any scientific paper from Gallo or Montagnier that describes how the so called HIV causes AIDS.Don't talk too much words.When I need paper from Gallo or Montagnier I mean something,so do as I need you to do.

Then on my side,I will also prove to you that AIDS is not caused by the so called HIV,I will show you scientifically and by providing real life experiences to back up that scientific explanation.

Don't talk too much,lets start now.

 

[Haika]

Mnatuchanganya:
Pls clarify to us scientifically, both sides of the arguments
1. Is there a virus which exists? which can be found (isolated) in a human body and can be transmitted to another human? this virus attacks a body given certain body conditions? ( refrain from using of -HIV )
2. if the virus does exist must it work in the same way in all bodies/cells of a humans with the same conditions? ie nutrition and other disease
3. .

Nitaendelea na swali ingine baada ya kufahaishwa hio hapo juu kwanza

 

[kahtaan]

A time waster thats what you are.
And my time is more precious decepter.

For the sake of readers here i will provide some Government figures to give you a glimpse of this nasty Virus and its Effects Worldwide.

http://patient.info/doctor/human-immunodeficiency-virus-hiv

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/3106.aspx?CategoryID=118&SubCategoryID=126
Thats a UK GOVERNMENT Website☝

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html

Thats US Government website ☝

https://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia

Thats Australian Gov Web ☝

http://www.avert.org/professionals/hiv-around-world/sub-saharan-africa/tanzania

Thats for sub-harasa HIV statistics ☝

http://www.unaids.org/en/regionscountries/countries/unitedrepublicoftanzania

And that is Tanzania Web.

All above with all the statistics and number of Patients diagnosed with HI Virus in your tiny mind Its all Hoax.

Moreover In 1993, the US-Centers for Disease Control and Prevention-in Atlanta, Georgia,-reviewed 230,179 cases of AIDS-like illness. Only 47 people tested HIV-negative, less than 0.025 per cent.

You think all that above decided to come together and made up a Hipily hopily story to get rich quick!! Are you insane?

People are dying everyday for simple and curable diseases simply because their body contains human immunodeficiency virus in their cells.

Your problem is You don't know that You don't know. Its almost impossible to help someone of your kind.

HIV is Fact young man.

Get a life young man.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

With all do respect i have read your comments here and there is no way on earth you are a Doctor.
I dont want to go deep into this but thats that.
I mean, cant you be honest and plod on with arguments without telling lies!!
Please stop claiming something you dont possess or you will embarrass yourself in a minute.

Thank you.

i think you misunderstood me, from the very beginning i made a very clear emphasis that i "have deep knowledge of body anatomy and medicines" and I can conduct "clinical lab tests" that makes me a lab technician and to some physician and to some even doctor.

even if i call myself a doctor, how can you prove whether i am, or i am not... do you think these posts on here proves or disqualifies anything? have you listened to Mr. Ben Carson lately? stop playing stereotypes

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

I'll take that challenge.
Where is your clinic located.
No Doctor on planet will offer this kind of stupid challenge.
You just proved to everyone that you are not a good liar.
Aren't you the one who claim to help patients? Now you want to inflict someone with HIV to prove your stupid point.
And you finished your stupid comments by welcome everyone.!!!

You ain't a Doctor nor a nurse.
You sound like a mad devorced Midwife.
Shame on you.

no one gives you the right to tell anyone off, this is a public forum. if you believe what i say you can challenge it, but you cant stop anything saying anything.

i am professional and i have put a disclaimer that, a person who is willing to take this clinical test has full responsibility. this is not something new, it can be done anywhere on earth.

doctors main priority is to save lives but not everyone appreciates life and because they have the right, we can offer alternatives. In Switzerland for example, people can volunteer to die early.. its a mad world and we have got to adapt.

 

[kahtaan]

i think you misunderstood me, from the very beginning i made a very clear emphasis that i "have deep knowledge of body anatomy and medicines" and I can conduct "clinical lab tests" that makes me a lab technician and to some physician and to some even doctor.

even if i call myself a doctor, how can you prove whether i am, or i am not... do you think these posts on here proves or disqualifies anything? have you listened to Mr. Ben Carson lately? stop playing stereotypes [/QUOTE]
Hey buddy read your comments above and tell me is that not enough to claim that you deal with patients to the extent that you deceive Deception by ending up calling you a Doc! Is that all coincidence. ?

You asked me how would i know if you are NOT A Doctor. Its very simple.
No Doctor on earth will be happy to infect someone with deadly virus Just to prove their points. Not even a midwives!
You are sick bro.
I'm watching you alright. Dont you worry.

 

[kahtaan]

no one gives you the right to tell anyone off, this is a public forum. if you believe what i say you can challenge it, but you cant stop anything saying anything.

i am professional and i have put a disclaimer that, a person who is willing to take this clinical test has full responsibility. this is not something new, it can be done anywhere on earth.

doctors main priority is to save lives but not everyone appreciates life and because they have the right, we can offer alternatives. In Switzerland for example, people can volunteer to die early.. its a mad world and we have got to adapt.

I ain't told you off buddy, i just told you the truth in your face.
Suicide clinics in Swiz is got nothing to do with inflicting deadly Virus to someone completely healthy.
Not a single Doctor ever done that for the sake of arguments. And if there one mention his/her name here.
...and you are Damn right we are living in a mad planet where some Clown offering to inject someone with HIV.
I ain't buying that pal, and so do all sound minded individuals in here.

Try the comedy club.